Saru hopes for new dawn
1 Nov 2012
The South African Rugby Union says it has committed to a transformation plan that will for once properly measure its success and failure on this issue.
The governing body held a two-day transformation indaba in Johannesburg, which concluded with Saru president Oregan Hoskins and representatives of each of the 14 member unions signing a declaration.
‘We have had visions and charters in the past, with good intentions, and progress has been made,’ Hoskins said. ‘But what distinguishes this one is the commitment to properly measure ourselves on our progress.’
The key performance areas will be access, skill and capability development, demographics, performance, and alignment to national policy and governance.
No details of the plan have been released yet (they will first discuss an implementation plan), but Hoskins explained that they would strive to go beyond previously unsuccessful attempts at transformation.
‘As the sports minister [Fikile Mbalula] said, transformation is not about the “vulgar” simplification of numbers in the Springbok team,’ Hoskins said. ‘It is about a whole range of opportunities being created in a number of different areas to continue to transform rugby at all levels and in all corners of our activity.’
Saru chief executive Jurie Roux said the indaba and declaration were part of an extensive strategy to finalise the transformation implementation plan. He also said it confirmed that Saru would adopt deliberate transformation initiatives in order to ensure equal opportunities existed for all South Africans.
‘We have had a group working on this process for several months,’ Roux said. ‘In April we presented the outline to the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee on Sport and since then we have workshopped the draft plan with provinces on an individual basis.
‘This indaba is the culmination of that process and from this we will finalise the implementation plan.’
Saru hopes the strategic transformation plan will increase the number of blacks involved at all levels of the game and ensure rugby was accessible to all who wished to participate. There will also be a focus on improving skills and performance in identified coaches, referees, administrators and players. It stressed that in accordance with transformation plan, Saru members would focus on quality and merit to deliver world-class performances on the field of play.
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1 Nov 2012, 13:06 pm
@Jeraldjay-90:
I understand the vicious circle, however, mine i to say to always strive to do the right thing. It will always be better than doing nothing.
I am like Malema, a Trnasfomation Freedom Fighter! lol.
And before I am lambasted, that is a joke.
1 Nov 2012, 13:07 pm
@cane-96: Good man… No need to wink though because I bet that your try is probably the closest you will get to a definition… ever… without some useful idiot getting tongue tied and twisted in PC bullshitt…
Another good one is try ask what a definition of a “Game Plan” is…
Nevertheless it seems “transformation” is the holy grail (or holy cow even) of definitions…
It is talked about profusely… (Especially by Trades Union types, or whitey liberal NIMBY types trying to polish struggle credentials) But has never been found.
1 Nov 2012, 13:12 pm
@Stawm-100:
ok, an instance in which ‘less is more’ won out in battle then..?..
go figure.
just to be clear is the answer: yes they are bigger than ndebeles?
1 Nov 2012, 13:16 pm
My biggest argument is the “why transform when their has never been a sporting culture in specific community” and the follow up “maybe they have played sport for hundreds of years but were they any good”
1 Nov 2012, 13:16 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-99: Beast, Mujati and Chavanga are Shonas to my knowledge. Ndebeles are also have strong genes the yare mostly based on the southern part of Zim, but they are oppressed by the ruling ZANU PF (majority Shona) so they don’t have the proper schooling.
1 Nov 2012, 13:17 pm
Ask a Saffa to explain exactly what “Transformation” is and it seems he will pretend you didn’t ask…
or you might get a retort like “Your mind is not transformed yet”… or some such…
1 Nov 2012, 13:21 pm
@Heavens Game-106: “Your mind is not transformed yet” – in other words – “We are trying to ‘conscientise’ (read ‘brainwash’) you”.
1 Nov 2012, 13:23 pm
Transformation is what happens to the electricity from the wall to my scalectrix set.
1 Nov 2012, 13:23 pm
@Heavens Game-106: I believe “transformation” is a process coined by the ruling ANC goverment of South Africa as the process of “writing the wrongs of the past”.
Wrongs of the past:
Blacks excluded from any and every higher level of:
- Education
- Sport
- Employment
- Access to “public areas:
- Nationa representation at international sports events
- Right to dignity etc.
That is my interpretation, the goverment see it as:
A free ticket for all my family and friends, amandla!!!
1 Nov 2012, 13:27 pm
@goodstuff-109: and when they stop writing about it they might even think of doing something constructive when righting the wrongs of the past
1 Nov 2012, 13:28 pm
If anything solidifies my declaration, of years standing, that true NON-RACIALISM has not ever existed since 1652 already, then this new ANC / Govt. effort does so by a factor X 1000000.
Who had the foresight to coin that wonderful term NEO-RACISM.
Who has written this statement below, countless times? :
Where I lead YOU will still follow.
1 Nov 2012, 13:30 pm
@Heavens Game-106: “Transformation” is a planned process of change for the better or improvement. Whether this definition in a SA context is understood or applied as such is debateable of course.
1 Nov 2012, 13:33 pm
@ET.-111: OK, bye and close the door behind you, domd00s.
1 Nov 2012, 13:41 pm
Proteas test cricket has a decent representation for the upcoming Australian series
JP, Alviro, Vernon, Hashim, Tahir and Kleinveldt.
All there on merit. Should be a yardstick for all codes to follow.
1 Nov 2012, 13:41 pm
@goodstuff-105:
yes.
amazing the cycle of life and how the wheel turns full circle on all people.
go back in history and the ndebeles were the dominant people there who had conqured and subjugated/assimilated the shonas and other tribes into their own culture and now, since mugabe and co’s rise to power from the 80′s onwards its the ndebeles on the receiving end of shona domination.
1 Nov 2012, 13:48 pm
@Heavens Game-106:
I remember YOU talking about the need for rugby to transform or government to get involve after our 1/4 final exit in the RWC last year.
Why don’t you tell us what you think transformation is and where you think government should get involved?
1 Nov 2012, 13:48 pm
‘Controlling’ groups of dumb Blacks simply out for pots of gold are the easiest sub-group of humans to fool.
Fake pieces of papers that are called “charters” or “treaties” are nothing more than glorified pinkpiggieporkies signed by pinkpiggies who ‘stole’ president status at their franchises. All you have to do is look at their surnames:
Verster, De Klerk, Van Zyl, Van Graan, Bosman,Tightarse; and those are just from the top lot.
Now what do you fools expect this “signed declaration” to be if not airy, flary , pie-in-sky lies, in short FRAUD of just another colour.
All you dummies need to do is think back to the denial of De Jong and Aplon over the last two years even in ‘liberal’ Cape Town to smell the rotten coorpe of deceit.
But that is what you will not do. What you will do instead is give effort after effort of side-tracking like harmless references like ” SARU and plan” cannot be in the same phrase.
Deal with the issues on the ground. The people of greater Bellville (the majority group) have angrily spoken for years already and they are not alone in their anger over a fraud they know is NEO-RACISM.
1 Nov 2012, 13:49 pm
@ET.-111:
So you are saying that prior to 1652, there was no racism?
Really?
All the tribes lived together in harmony?
Xhosas’ didnt go on rampages slaughtering thousands before them.
The Zulus neither?
The smaller tribes were always welcomed everywhere?
The Koi San chose to drive themselves south.
And then the evil European came to the continent, bringing nothing of value with him? No medical advances? Nothing of value?
Phew
1 Nov 2012, 13:53 pm
@Stawm-118:
that’s right.
blame Gunther van Riebeek.
1 Nov 2012, 13:58 pm
what is a Aplon?
1 Nov 2012, 13:58 pm
@Jeraldjay-114:
When they started playing for the Proteas, were they seen as being there on merit or did they have to convince a certain section through their performances that they were there on merit?
Remember what people’s reaction was when Philander was selected last year? It was only after his great performances that people came out and acknowledged that they “have egg on my face.”
Alviro still has to constantly prove himself as being there on merit.
JP is in direct competition with Rudolph for the one batting spot if they decide to play Tsolekile as wicket keeper. I can guarantee you that some will see it as a quota selection if he gets the nod ahead of Rudolph.
Kleinveld people don’t know much about because they don’t follow domestic cricket. I bet you many see him as a quota selection and will do so until he proves himself at international level.
1 Nov 2012, 14:02 pm
how many runs did Alviro score in the T20 Championship? Was it even 35? … reminds me of Andrew Hudson …. just when everyone is gatvol and he is on the brink of being dropped, he goes and scores a century!
1 Nov 2012, 14:03 pm
@Stawm-118:
Yes, there was no racism, because the only people who were in South Africa at that time were the San and the Khoikhoi…
1 Nov 2012, 14:03 pm
@Heavens Game-106:
Even if you honestly gave Fikile all the intellectual aids to help him define transformation he will not be able to do so for it will remove his pie-in-the-sky term of “Transformation” that is an invisible wall to fraudulently hide behind.
He has never advanced the principle of non-racialism, he does not ever embody nor understands what it is. All he sees are opportunities to fatten a wallet and worse.
More Xoliles in a team answers his needs and equates to his desires of “Transfornication” for that is what Transformation has become(I even wrote it yesterday for your buddy).
What do simple words like fairness and opportunities for ALL at ALL levels of S.A society(not only rugby ,not only sport) mean when all it does is remove his invisible cover-wall?
1 Nov 2012, 14:04 pm
@nama1-121:
Cricket is an individual sport within a team environment.
So its easy to determine how good a players is by compiling stats.
Rugby is different because a players performance/ability is rated by popualar opinion.
1 Nov 2012, 14:08 pm
I see the average white family in SA now earns 6x more than the average black family.
Why am I not surprised?
Every time the topic of transformation/ econ empowerment comes up we make great strides in theory only to move several steps backwards in reality.
They are channeling resources now more aggressively to themselves than before 1994. Next time they check the scoreboard it will be 8x or 10x and they will simply shrug the shoulders…
1 Nov 2012, 14:08 pm
@nama1-121:
Unfortunately you are 100% correct. People do question the merit of non whites selections in sports teams.
I believe this is because it is politically forced to have x number of non white players, so there is suspicion etc.
It is hugely unfair to the players.
1 Nov 2012, 14:09 pm
@Sheriff-126:
Who are “they”?
1 Nov 2012, 14:11 pm
Politics …booooring.
Outta here.
1 Nov 2012, 14:11 pm
The nature of the beast is that human conflicts will exist wherever men and women are to be found (power struggle for the individuals). But where can there be racism when no foreign invaders from distant continents are to be found.
At that time all who roamed the coastline where all from one tribe so even tribalism cannot be referred to.
Try your pinkiepiggyporkies(pie-in-the-sky) elsewhere as the indigenous people are flexing their muscles. More labour troubles lurk in ever increasing numbers in a matter of months.
1 Nov 2012, 14:12 pm
@Sheriff-126:
Proof?
1 Nov 2012, 14:15 pm
@Stawm-127: Well said.
1 Nov 2012, 14:15 pm
@Sheriff-126:
What is to be expected when the economy is owned by stranger looking foreign invaders(of 100s of years) who struggle to deal with the uv rays of the sun as they do not have the needed genes for more melanin to protect them(who has the highest rates of skin cancers)?
1 Nov 2012, 14:16 pm
@WP-Forever-128:
I am referring to those who occupy 80-90% of the senior management (EXCO and boards) positions of the typical South African company.
These are the same people who held or managed most of the resources prior to 1994.
What surprises me of this group is that they have had a bit of money in the family for more than a century and still not used to it.
I can understand that a guy will hardly have furniture in his house but his fancy black Range Rover is there. This is new money symptoms; it is to compensate for the internal deficit. The bad news is that it is unlikely that this group will get used to in the next 80 years based on the sample referred to above.
1 Nov 2012, 14:18 pm
@Stawm-131:
Census 2011
1 Nov 2012, 14:19 pm
@gunther-119: ag fark off man,or be a good boy and shut the fark up.Nobody,except your boyfriend Katman and a few others,is interested in your attempt at comedy.
1 Nov 2012, 14:20 pm
@ET.-133:
Does anyone take you seriously?
(except for yourself)
1 Nov 2012, 14:23 pm
@Sheriff-135:
That is in direct contrast to other statistics saying how much the black middle class is expanding on a year to year basis.
Are you saying the executive boards of major companies are still too white, or still the same as the previous 15 years?
Is this what you are focusing on?
1 Nov 2012, 14:26 pm
@Sheriff-135:
Actually can you provide a link to that?
1 Nov 2012, 14:27 pm
@Stawm-137:
A FOOL like you clearly does. Have you noticed?
How much more then are you to address your posts to me?
Luckily for dummies like you ,Miami will save you today.
1 Nov 2012, 14:28 pm
@Sheriff-126: Well that’s no surprise.According to British auditors they discovered that the apartheid government and its followers,just before the fall of apartheid,robbed the state coffers to the tune of billions of rands.These monies were successfully channelled into legal enterprises which they still have the benifit off up to today.The basically operated like the mafia of the day,who,decided to stop their illegal ways and started legal business.
1 Nov 2012, 14:28 pm
@Stawm-138:
Mate, let’s start at the beginning: are you white?
1 Nov 2012, 14:29 pm
@ET.-140:
You are right. I am a fool to respond to your drivel. No more.
You clearly cannot respond with any valid answers to my questions.
1 Nov 2012, 14:30 pm
@Stawm-139:
Do you mean an internet link?
I am waiting for the stats to be made available online and will see what trends one can detect.
1 Nov 2012, 14:31 pm
@Sheriff-142:
Irrelevant question.
1 Nov 2012, 14:31 pm
@Sheriff-144:
So you are quoting info on a public forum that no-one else here can access?
1 Nov 2012, 14:33 pm
@wnbb-141:
Perhaps you can give me a bit more information on that; I’d like to pursue that a bit further.
I don’t mean here on the blog but in my own time…
1 Nov 2012, 14:34 pm
@wnbb-141:
Why was this never dealt with, since the evidence is there?
Deal with it and move on?
I certainly see no benefit from it. I say it should be dealt with.
1 Nov 2012, 14:37 pm
@Stawm-145:
No it’s relevant.
Unfortunately in South Africa race is a key determining factor because of our past.This means that you will probably take a certain line of argument because of your skin colour – that’s sad I know but that’s SA for you.
Btw – don’t think for one moment I want your resources; matter of fact I will give you more if necessary. Material wealth is something the pagans/heathens have always craved, but it’s not I’m after.
1 Nov 2012, 14:38 pm
@Heavens Game-106: @ET.-124:
Why don’t you guys give us YOUR definition of transformation? You know that you are going to shoot down any definition that somebody else put up here.
Come on, be bold. Tell us what you think transformation means.
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