Saru hopes for new dawn
1 Nov 2012
The South African Rugby Union says it has committed to a transformation plan that will for once properly measure its success and failure on this issue.
The governing body held a two-day transformation indaba in Johannesburg, which concluded with Saru president Oregan Hoskins and representatives of each of the 14 member unions signing a declaration.
‘We have had visions and charters in the past, with good intentions, and progress has been made,’ Hoskins said. ‘But what distinguishes this one is the commitment to properly measure ourselves on our progress.’
The key performance areas will be access, skill and capability development, demographics, performance, and alignment to national policy and governance.
No details of the plan have been released yet (they will first discuss an implementation plan), but Hoskins explained that they would strive to go beyond previously unsuccessful attempts at transformation.
‘As the sports minister [Fikile Mbalula] said, transformation is not about the “vulgar” simplification of numbers in the Springbok team,’ Hoskins said. ‘It is about a whole range of opportunities being created in a number of different areas to continue to transform rugby at all levels and in all corners of our activity.’
Saru chief executive Jurie Roux said the indaba and declaration were part of an extensive strategy to finalise the transformation implementation plan. He also said it confirmed that Saru would adopt deliberate transformation initiatives in order to ensure equal opportunities existed for all South Africans.
‘We have had a group working on this process for several months,’ Roux said. ‘In April we presented the outline to the Parliamentary Portfolio Committee on Sport and since then we have workshopped the draft plan with provinces on an individual basis.
‘This indaba is the culmination of that process and from this we will finalise the implementation plan.’
Saru hopes the strategic transformation plan will increase the number of blacks involved at all levels of the game and ensure rugby was accessible to all who wished to participate. There will also be a focus on improving skills and performance in identified coaches, referees, administrators and players. It stressed that in accordance with transformation plan, Saru members would focus on quality and merit to deliver world-class performances on the field of play.
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1 Nov 2012, 16:07 pm
@Finfan-200:
Boy did you guys get a hiding on Saturday?
What happened? Are you ok?
1 Nov 2012, 16:08 pm
Khumbaya…….
What do you GET when you cross a Saffa hating ex-pat/academic freedom fighter/revolutionary agent of change and full time narcissist, with a twat like HG?
Answer: Seriouslyfucking ILL.
1 Nov 2012, 16:09 pm
To wet the appetite:Apartheid grand corruption -However, it is worth noting that this was not always the case. For more than 300 years, all South Africans were under the yoke of colonial and apartheid rule, a system that benefited the few at the expense of the many. It was a system that ensured that white settlers—and later, white South Africans—were at the helm of a racial oligarchy that was built on the subjugation of black South Africans. It was a corrupt system of governance. A near monopoly on money, power and influence were in the hands of a minority and they used this to either violently suppress the majority or, at best, transfer resources in order to stave off the inevitable revolution.
Racist nationalism is as vulnerable to corruption as most systems of authoritarian rule. In closed societies, which are highly militarised under dictatorial rule, the truth is hidden from public view by design. Access to power (and a monopoly over it) provides the elite in the public and private sectors with a unique opportunity to line their pockets. In so doing, the defenders of an illegitimate and corrupt system start to defy their own rules and laws that criminalise such behaviour. In terms of common law crime they are simply crooks dressed in the guise of patriots representing the interests of their volk, their race or their narrow class. They have effectively corrupted themselves.
Such a system can also only survive for as long as a monopoly over power is maintained. Its survival is therefore tenuous—common knowledge to all functionaries of the system, who are the first to ensure that they are taken care of should there be a break with the past. This leads to a reliance on ‘insurance’, usually in the form of cash or other easily moveable assets that can be moved abroad in the event of regime change. It is in the period before regime change that the elite, in particular, are likely to accumulate as many resources as possible for fear that they may soon be out of a job or, at worst, have to flee the country.
This is illustrated in the history of many countries. In Peru, President Alberto Fujimori was alleged to have embezzled $600 million (over R7 billion) from the Peruvian people before he fled to Japan, where he resisted requests for his extradition to Peru.3 It was also only after fascism in Germany was smashed in the mid-1940s that tales emerged of generals who had stolen gold and fantastic treasures from the victims of the European genocide. All the Nazi gold did not end up at the bottom of an illusive lake in the Alps, as was often theorised—some of it was located soon after the war but much of the money remained locked up in Swiss bank accounts for decades or financed homes in South
1 Nov 2012, 16:10 pm
@Heavens Game-194:
Do YOU have a definition for transformation?
1 Nov 2012, 16:10 pm
@ET.-196: Since everyone, especially here on Keo, seem to love using these words profusely like “game plan” or “transformation” when relating to the Boks or Sport or South Africa in general… I just happened to think that maybe someone knew what they were actually farken talking about….
Maybe thats the problem with lilly liberalverbal diarrhea… it just spews out indiscriminately with no rhyme or reason…
1 Nov 2012, 16:11 pm
@Finfan-178:
ok but then who did shoot the deputy?
1 Nov 2012, 16:14 pm
@Sheriff-126: Care to enlighten us as to where you sit on this scale? How many times greater than the average black income is yours? The notion that coloureds are somehow exempt from this conversation is nonsense. If your income and lifestyle put you on the “us” side of us & them, then you need to ask yourself the same tricky questions.
1 Nov 2012, 16:14 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-202: Hey here comes Keo’s very own self proclaimed lillyliberal “Doc”… Care to venture a definition for “transformation”?
Sure you can find a definition in that DSV – IV, V or VI, wherever the fark its at now, of yours…
You know, that little tome all med/psych/OTs students have to beg, borrow or buy in 1st year…
Come on “Doc”… Enlighten us
1 Nov 2012, 16:15 pm
@wnbb-203: ABSA Bank stashed a lot of that cash……(or rather the old ‘banks’ from way back who are now part of the Amalgamated banks of SA)
1 Nov 2012, 16:16 pm
@Sheriff-201: Thanks, I am starting to get over it, but is very, very hard. The therapy is also helping, but expensive.
(I won’t call it a “hiding” though. If the Sharks scored in the final minute of the game it would’ve been a draw.)
1 Nov 2012, 16:16 pm
‘No resources’ to probe apartheid plunder
July 3 2011 at 01:23pm
By DIANNE HAWKER
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The Public Protector does not have the resources to investigate claims that billions of rands were looted from state coffers under the apartheid regime and that the government did nothing to retrieve the funds once it knew the extent of the plundering.
Thuli Madonsela acknowledged though that the matter “is important” and falls within her ambit, after being presented with a report detailing the work of a covert UK-based asset recovery agency that was allegedly contracted by the South African government in 1997 to investigate apartheid corruption.
The agency, Ciex, is headed by former British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) agent Michael Oatley, who led secret talks with the Irish Republican Army (IRA) to bring about peace in Northern Ireland.
In the report Oatley details allegations of how more than R26.1 billion was siphoned from public funds through illegal transactions.
While one such payment was investigated in the late 1990s – a R3.2 million payment to Bankorp, later one of the banks to form Amalgamated Banks of South Africa (Absa) – similar payments were not.
A commission of inquiry led by Judge Willem Heath found the payment to be irregular, but did not demand the bank or its investors repay the funds.
Ciex said the South African government could retrieve:
- R3.2bn from Absa
- R3bn to R6bn from Sanlam and Rembrandt, major investors in Bankorp.
Ciex said “up to R5.5bn” could be recovered from French aerospace manufacturer Aero-spatiale/Daimler-Chrysler.
The company says that in 1999 it was tasked by “the president” to investigate irregular payments by Armscor and it discovered that the state arms company siphoned R14,4bn through “Luxemborg accounts, managed through the Paris Embassy”.
Oatley and his team uncovered several other schemes including one in which US suppliers collaborated with government officials between 1987 and 1993 to defraud the government “by ordering large items of expensive equipment which were paid for but not delivered”.
1 Nov 2012, 16:17 pm
@Heavens Game-208: No time to play. Just wanted to p # ss you off. I have a function to attend a little later.
Hit and run visit.
Toodles.
1 Nov 2012, 16:17 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-209: Ha ha ha… Did you also get that from your DSV biblical book of all out “medical” wisdom….
Dumbfuck
1 Nov 2012, 16:18 pm
@katman-207: Exactly.I pose the same
question to Blacks & Indians
1 Nov 2012, 16:21 pm
@nama1-211: Hi Nama.The amounts
you mention almost seem like petty cash when compared to what is happening nowadays.Lets start with the Arms Deal.
1 Nov 2012, 16:22 pm
Oatley and his team uncovered several other schemes including one in which US suppliers collaborated with government officials between 1987 and 1993 to defraud the government “by ordering large items of expensive equipment which were paid for but not delivered”.
Nothing has changed.
Vokkit. I thought we were going to transform this country for the better.
The masters tought their students well and then were kicked to the curb.
1 Nov 2012, 16:25 pm
@ryecatcher-215:
We are not really going to compare who are the most corrupt, are we Rye?
1 Nov 2012, 16:25 pm
I hear a lot of “who are you”‘s around here
Sounds like six episodes of fecking CSI
1 Nov 2012, 16:26 pm
@Heavens Game-208:
Chill man
Get a dictionary
1 Nov 2012, 16:27 pm
@ryecatcher-215:
oh no you didn’t!
1 Nov 2012, 16:27 pm
@Finfan-210:
Dont tell Sheriff ANYTHING
1 Nov 2012, 16:28 pm
@nama1-217:
Who’s going to be named the winner here: The group who looted the most money or those who looted less?
1 Nov 2012, 16:28 pm
@nama1-217: Sorry.Thieves are thieves.
1 Nov 2012, 16:29 pm
@Dawn-218:
1 Nov 2012, 16:29 pm
@nama1-211: that is nothing compared to what’s in the Apartheid grand corruption document.All that stuff is dealt with and much much more.
1 Nov 2012, 16:30 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-220: Hello Bakkies.LOL
1 Nov 2012, 16:32 pm
@Dawn-219: Hey… Wench. Care to have a go at defining “Transformation”?
I see Nama has sh.at himself and copped out…
Maybe you too…
1 Nov 2012, 16:33 pm
@wnbb-203:
White South Africans are so evil aren’t they?
Change the record son… Humanity as a whole has a history of violence and the struggle for power. Every continent has had it’s wars. Some continents developed faster than others and conquered other continents. Europe conquered Africa because they developed faster technologically. Had Africa been at the helm of technological development, they would conquered Europe and/ or other continents. Same goes for South America, Australia and New Zealand.
Violence and the struggle for power is a HUMAN trait. Not a white trait.
1 Nov 2012, 16:34 pm
@nama1-222: They are all corrupt,but the reason,especially the Grand Corruption report,is to dispel the notition that the apartheid government was not corrupt.
1 Nov 2012, 16:35 pm
@wnbb-229: notion
1 Nov 2012, 16:35 pm
@Heavens Game-205:
But you have always got that right. They are as superficial and empty and flaky and airy -flary like the consumed wine in their wine bottles.
They are so deceitful they will “TRANSFORM” a much devalued ‘Kerrie Beker’ into a World Cup Trophy as they have attempted since late Sat.
Enjoy ribbing the empty-headed morons as I have to be off. Miami Vice calls and it is a mere 65 miles south.
The problems are Black
The problems are White
The problems are not Dynamite.
1 Nov 2012, 16:35 pm
@Heavens Game-227:
I have disadvantaged eddycation
I know not of definitions of transformations
1 Nov 2012, 16:36 pm
@nama1-222: Maybe the more “transformed” group…
1 Nov 2012, 16:37 pm
@Dawn-232: So how the h.ell are you ever going to “Transform your mind” doodums?
1 Nov 2012, 16:38 pm
@wnbb-225:
I am trying to access it as we speak. Ran into some problems earlier with Adobe.
Strange how people now feel that the corruption back then was somehow not so bad because of the scale of corruption today.
The mind boggles.
1 Nov 2012, 16:39 pm
@ET.-231: Hehe… Cheers… Enjoy. Say huzzit to Horatio Kane if you see him…
1 Nov 2012, 16:39 pm
@the authority-228: I am not against any people,bud.I only deal in facts.I have given Sheriff references to documents and reports only.I had no involvement in any of those reports,so maybe you should direct your anger somewhere else.
1 Nov 2012, 16:40 pm
@wnbb-229: No one ever said the apartheid goverment was not corrupt. The existing government just took all possible learnings from them and then made a highly significant step-change improvement. One of their few achievements and they can’t even brag about it openly. Quite sad actually.
1 Nov 2012, 16:40 pm
@ET.-231:
You two kissed and made up again?
Sweet man!
1 Nov 2012, 16:42 pm
@Heavens Game-233: I have a short attention span.The strains of” duelling banjo” grow louder in my head.Good
night
1 Nov 2012, 16:44 pm
@nama1-222:
hehehe
you joke but i think its a sad irony that the new lot frame the old lot as being the absolute worst because, even though they stole far less, they were thieves AND racists to boot, whereas the new lot, even though they are stealing far more, are (in ET’s words) paragons of’ NON-RACIALISM’… and that is all they need to know…
thats just one of the comic absurdities of todays world hey, truth stranger than fiction and all that…
@ryecatcher-223:
to quote Kwagga,
his b.ullshit to logic ratio is astonishing
@ryecatcher-226:
comic relief… loving it…
1 Nov 2012, 16:44 pm
@nama1-235: @the authority-228: To calm you down,maybe I should mention that the apartheid document touches on post-apartheid corruption as well.The point is bud,that we the ordinary citizens always get screwed by these people and the elite of society.Read that document and you’ll see my point.
1 Nov 2012, 16:45 pm
@wnbb-242: not for you Nama.my bad.
1 Nov 2012, 16:45 pm
@Heavens Game-234:
No-one can transform my mind, babes
Many have tried, many have failed
1 Nov 2012, 16:45 pm
“The problems are Black
The problems are White
The problems are not Dynamite.”
My, my ET is actually a moderate pacifist.
1 Nov 2012, 16:45 pm
@Heavens Game-227:
I’ve asked you about three times now to tell us what YOU understand under transformation but you are deflecting of course. Nothing new there.
@the authority-228:
Nobody is saying that.
Get that chip off your shoulder.
@Heavens Game-233:
You mean the “transformed group” are the best at something at last?
GO transformation.
1 Nov 2012, 16:46 pm
@katman-207:
With pleasure. We seem to be having Internet connection problems here, so bear with me.
How are you? Have you recovered from that devastating defeat? Are you going to throw your weight behind the Kings?
Mate, this is not about you and me as individuals. The statistic refers to the national reality.
Whites had political and economic power but only economic power now. So I guess the reporter – think eNCA wanted to highlight that aspect. As a proud white male are you doing your part to retain economic power?
Are you trying to suggest that kullid people shared in Apartheid spoils?
1 Nov 2012, 16:46 pm
@wnbb-242:
Are you another one of those preaching from a million miles away?
1 Nov 2012, 16:47 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-241: Bakkies.You old cynic.Good night
1 Nov 2012, 16:47 pm
@nama1-211:
Nice one; will look into this a bit more…
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