Lambie set for Bok start
5 Nov 2012
RYAN VREDE, writing from Dublin, says Pat Lambie ran at flyhalf for the bulk of Monday’s training session in a strong indicator that he will play ahead of Morne Steyn at the Aviva Stadium on Saturday.
Lambie impressed throughout the Super Rugby campaign in the position and was exceptional in Currie Cup semi-final at Kings Park, where his tactical game management and goal-kicking lead the Sharks to the final.
It had been a straight choice between Lambie and Steyn for head coach Heyneke Meyer, who remained hopeful that Steyn would regain his confidence after dropping him for the home leg of the Rugby Championship. He believes Steyn’s tactical kicking game is the best of his available flyhalves, but has acknowledged Lambie’s growth in this facet of play, most recently at Monday’s press conference which preceded training.
‘You can’t compare the Currie Cup and Tests but he showed great tactical awareness in winning the Currie Cup with the Sharks in 2010 as 19 or 20 year old. Suddenly I’ve seen some of that in him again and he is really improving and knocking on the door hard at the moment.’
Steyn is now unlikely to feature in the match 22 as Meyer doesn’t see him as an impact player, with Elton Jantjies expected to provide cover on the wood.
Lambie has an opportunity to stake a serious claim for the shirt and will be acutely aware of the importance of a strong performance at the weekend. Johan Goosen remains Meyer’s preferred pivot of those at his disposal, but with Meyer set to commit to a deputy for Goosen for the 2013 season and onwards towards the World Cup, Lambie has an inside lane.
‘I know Morne will get back to his best soon,’ Meyer said. ‘Dan Carter said to me a couple of years ago that he went through a difficult time and went to France and came back a better player, which gives me confidence about Morne [Meyer was intimating that a break will have done Steyn good]. But you also want to see who is the next guy after Goosen.’
Meyer lamented that nearly a year into his reign he was still deciding between flyhalves.
‘Because the three are young [Goosen, Lambie and Jantjies] the only way you’ll see whether they have it or not is by playing them. The difficulty is that if your flyhalf isn’t on song then you lose because he runs the whole game plan. I would have loved to have the opportunity earlier in my tenure to look at the 10s. But I didn’t have that luxury. We’re probably the only elite nation without an established 10,’ he said.
He did, however, express delight at the new-found depth in a position that has historically been troublesome.
‘I’m happy at what we have at present and then future looks good with Handre Pollard and others coming through,’ he said. ‘If you look at the last 10 years this is probably the best group of flyhalves we’ve had available. But how they respond in these conditions is key. They’re all good at running and distributing the ball, but with the World Cup being in England you’ll need guys who are tactically astute. They all have to work on that aspect of their games.’
Meanwhile, JP Pietersen is set to be reinstated on the wing after missing the Rugby Championship through injury. Francois Hougaard is likely to retain his place on the opposite flank.
Jean de Villiers and Francois Louw didn’t participate in the contact session but the former ran freely and is expected to overcome a hamstring strain to start. Louw has a neck injury that is being monitored. If he fails to respond to treatment he will be replaced at openside flank by Marcell Coetzee, with Arno Botha coming onto the bench.
Adriaan Strauss will keep his place at hooker ahead of Schalk Brits, who will be used as an impact player. Elsewhere in the front row, Gurthro Steenkamp was a notable absentee at training, the prop picking up an injury in Toulouse’s match this weekend. In the event of Steenkamp’s injury precluding him from joining the squad, Leinster’s Heinke van der Merwe will be called up.
Probable Springbok XV to face Ireland – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaco Taute, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermuelen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
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6 Nov 2012, 21:08 pm
@ET.-488:
188.ET. said:
31 Oct 2012, 16:11 pm
@wnbb-182:
You, and your duplicitous games and tantrums, have not ever fooled me creepy-crawly.
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Is this the post you were referring to, ET?
Just asking?
6 Nov 2012, 21:08 pm
@skopdiekan-498: Perhaps, but I’d still like you to break that Powerbalad Duet of his down for me. Who was the lady? Jennifer Warnes?
Where the eagles cry… on a mountain high…
That bit always chokes me up.
6 Nov 2012, 21:09 pm
@stormersboy-500: Indeed. Along with the Nevill brother with the moerse Moley Mole.
6 Nov 2012, 21:11 pm
@katman-499: You are very funny.Sedriously funny
6 Nov 2012, 21:11 pm
@katman-496: you really do think you are the epitome of sanity and moral enlightenment don’t you you pisswilly little fakefuck prick.. where on Gods little earth did you ever get all that fakefuck fuckup aggrandized opinion of yourself you miserable little frivolous nonentity non evolved worm…?
Fckfaces like you need to get fck’d up for your own good.. you the kind of self aggrandized little snake eyed kn’t that thinks way too much of your fakefuck intelligence.. and its fakefuck little pseudo intelligent punks like you who in fact are the most pitiful little runts in creation, who actually think you so goddamn smart when the truth of the reality is you are absolutely goddamn emaciated dumb..
You stupid little imbecilic ignorant know nothing skunk.
6 Nov 2012, 21:12 pm
An uneccesaty D in there.
6 Nov 2012, 21:14 pm
rather joe cocker voice then bob dylan, chris rea sounds a bit like joe cocker actually. elvis had a great voice but its so dreurig one dimensional. bob dylan just stream of consciousness pretentious horsemanure, of his beatnik generation, the yanks all love that ****, nothing special imo, but i guess he spoke to the navels of a generation, the equilaent of gallagher bros. bob marley pretty cool.
hendrix, page, jonny lee hooker, clapton, twonsend, bb king – the great guitarists but you got to be guitarist to really appreciate it.
far more moving music imo.
6 Nov 2012, 21:16 pm
@katman-503: I remember the video. jeez that mole was a serious one. Couldn’t see anything else.
6 Nov 2012, 21:16 pm
@ryecatcher-506:
Sometimes it is better not to correct your mistakes. Just leave them. For posterity.
Otherwise TheTackler wouldn’t have anything to do.
6 Nov 2012, 21:17 pm
@skopdiekan-505: Okay, so we won’t talk about the powerbalad then. That’s cool. I can dig that.
But do me a favour then and enlighten me about any of Mr Cocker’s other hits. But there’s a catch: it can’t be a Beatles cover.
I’ll give you a few minutes.
6 Nov 2012, 21:18 pm
This may take a while
6 Nov 2012, 21:18 pm
@cab-507: Agreed on the guitarists, too many to mention, Guilmore, Brian May, Mark Knoffler, all favorites of mine, great storytellers too.
6 Nov 2012, 21:20 pm
Just heard Chris Rea and Diana Ross will be concerting in South Africa next year.
It’s going to billed the ‘DiaRea’ concert.
6 Nov 2012, 21:20 pm
@stormersboy-508: The first few times I saw that vid, I thought the mole sang the high bits. And I could never understand why an unsightly mole would ask Aaron Neville to “look at these eyes”. That was beyond surreal.
Then one day I saw the white chick poking around on the vid and it all made sense.
6 Nov 2012, 21:21 pm
0000000@cab-507: Hey come on.
Thats talking about my genestion
6 Nov 2012, 21:22 pm
Generation
6 Nov 2012, 21:22 pm
@ryecatcher-515: You mean your g-g-g-generation?
6 Nov 2012, 21:23 pm
Speaking of concerts, I will be at the Linkin Park concert tomorrow.
Looking forward to it,
For a half decent Joe Cocker song, check out “Edge of a Dream”. A power ballad written by Brian Adams and his erstwhile writing partner Jim Valance.
6 Nov 2012, 21:23 pm
@I am a stormer-509: <LOL
6 Nov 2012, 21:24 pm
@ET.-471:
It was an honest question, based on the Japanese culture. What my money, which is minimal, has to do with it only you can answer. I’m not even prepared to discuss the Norwich midfield with a supporter of a team languishing in a lower division for the last few years.
6 Nov 2012, 21:24 pm
Up where we belong puts anything that other fake ‘Boss’ man ever put on vinyl in the shade…it may be a little schmaltzy and soapy but its way better musically arranged and orchestrated and got more song quality than Mr. America ever got round to preening his armpits about with.
Joe Cocker put Mc Cartney Lennons Little Help from my friends through the roof..
if anyone can watch the Woodstock clip of Cocker doing that number and tell me he wasn’t moved to the core of his soul with it.. then he ain’t no music connoisseur.. not even half a whisker of a true music connoisseur can he ever claim to be.
6 Nov 2012, 21:25 pm
@stormersboy-512: Is Mazrk Knoffler
not Skop???
6 Nov 2012, 21:25 pm
@stormersboy-512:
think poedfa freddie was the charisma showman behind queen, never liked dire straits, gotta be the worst british band/music of all-time, i just never seen anything so bland uninspiring, but apparently he was a v good guitarist. beatles was basically john lennon, paul mccartney poefda of bland variety.
6 Nov 2012, 21:26 pm
@David-520: Hey, have a go at him for the money comment. But don’t you also become a sports division snob now. There’s enough gloating at the Lions’ expense already without you adding your voice.
6 Nov 2012, 21:27 pm
@stormersboy-518:
yeah i like joe cocker and about three chris rea songs josephine, steel river, all great tracks.
6 Nov 2012, 21:27 pm
F… Another mist=take====Crucify me Tackler.l
6 Nov 2012, 21:28 pm
@skopdiekan-521: Spare us the trip down memory lane, old pal. The bergie in the Strand Street concourse is also “moved to the core of his soul” when he obliterates No Woman No Cry.
Besides, nostalgia ain’t what it used to be.
6 Nov 2012, 21:31 pm
@cab-525: Steel River is a great song, check out “Nothing to Fear”.
Content is heavy, but the song grabs you and doesn’t let you go, not for a long time after you have heard it.
Knofler is a master storyteller and a unique guitarist which in a world of copycats is a rare thing.
6 Nov 2012, 21:32 pm
there are / were 4 cornerstones of the modern music revolution.
Elvis.. Bob Dylan.. Jimi Hendrix.. and Bob Marley.. they carried the entire couple generations of music evolution on their shoulders..
many others embellished and filled in and filled out the frilly bits.. but those 4 carried the show.. they were the guts and the soul of it and the front runner pioneers .. the rest followed including all the Brits.. Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Cream, Who, Tull, Purple, Floyd and the rest
6 Nov 2012, 21:33 pm
@skopdiekan-529: Do you even know of one band that existed after 1978?
6 Nov 2012, 21:34 pm
cocker, rea, springsteen, CCR, seger – all v similar sound
CCR the best.
6 Nov 2012, 21:34 pm
@skopdiekan-529: I really enjoyed
“Old blue eyes” Frank Sinatra
6 Nov 2012, 21:36 pm
@katman-527: you see that why you so fckng YOUNG you pisswilly little doos.. you don’t listen to music.. you intellectualize and analyse and use your puny little fakefuck brain to try and compartmentalize it into your pathetic little pseudo intellectual compartments of non evolved knowledge..
you don’t listen to music you stroke your fakefuck ego with some pseudo intelligent idiocy that pretends to think it knows what its listening to.. when you haven’t even begun to open your fakefuck little ears up to any of it yet… stupid little cleverdick moron.
6 Nov 2012, 21:38 pm
No musical discussion is complete without the mention of Hank Williams.
6 Nov 2012, 21:39 pm
crud, got all the blues which were there predecessors, before that – far more variety, british got stuck into punk and heavy metal and new wave and ska and on and on – basically influenced all alternative / indie stuff.
punk a whole seperate genre in its own right, influuenced by any of your 4 pillars to the extent that were influenced by classical musical from western europe.
6 Nov 2012, 21:40 pm
@gunther-534: That is why I like you.
Good night all
6 Nov 2012, 21:40 pm
@skopdiekan-533: I’d take all those adjectives over “just another sentimental flea market hobo”. Which is the medical term for people like you.
6 Nov 2012, 21:41 pm
I said to Hank Williams, ‘How lonely does it get?’ Hank Williams hasn’t answered me yet.
6 Nov 2012, 21:42 pm
@gunther-534: I take it as read that you
were referirng to HW senior.
6 Nov 2012, 21:43 pm
Now you’re just ramblin man.
6 Nov 2012, 21:43 pm
@stormersboy-528:
will have a listen to “nothing to fear”
i dont like dire straights tho, just dull, same as bob dylan mostly, but some of dylan’s stuff is ok
6 Nov 2012, 21:43 pm
@katman-524:
I’m sorry. I’m sure the Lions will regain their former glory, like Leeds United are doing.
6 Nov 2012, 21:44 pm
@katman-538:
That’s kak funny.
6 Nov 2012, 21:44 pm
Indeed there is only one Hank.
Hank the tank.
6 Nov 2012, 21:45 pm
@katman-538: He be daid.
6 Nov 2012, 21:47 pm
Why are people talking about the Lions when we could talk about the late great
Hank?
6 Nov 2012, 21:47 pm
@cab-541: It’s a personal thing, each to their own. I enjoy Dire Straights from a guitar composition point of view, Dylan is OK, but not all his stuff.
I listen to everything, from Metallica to Mozart.
Except for Jazz. Can’t get into it, no matter how hard I try.
6 Nov 2012, 21:49 pm
@ryecatcher-532:
Greatest live performance captured on camera was Sinatra singing “My Way” at Madison Square Gardens.
Also Joe Cocker at Woodstock singing “With a little help from my friends” and last but definitely not least Michael Jackson at the 25th anniversay of Motown sing “Billie Jean”
6 Nov 2012, 21:52 pm
So by the time we wake up tomorrow the most powerful nation in the world would have chosen their new leader.
You get the democracy you deserve I guess. What’s it going to be??
6 Nov 2012, 21:52 pm
@stormersboy-547:
fair enough – yeah the frencies loved their jazz.
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