Lambie set for Bok start
5 Nov 2012
RYAN VREDE, writing from Dublin, says Pat Lambie ran at flyhalf for the bulk of Monday’s training session in a strong indicator that he will play ahead of Morne Steyn at the Aviva Stadium on Saturday.
Lambie impressed throughout the Super Rugby campaign in the position and was exceptional in Currie Cup semi-final at Kings Park, where his tactical game management and goal-kicking lead the Sharks to the final.
It had been a straight choice between Lambie and Steyn for head coach Heyneke Meyer, who remained hopeful that Steyn would regain his confidence after dropping him for the home leg of the Rugby Championship. He believes Steyn’s tactical kicking game is the best of his available flyhalves, but has acknowledged Lambie’s growth in this facet of play, most recently at Monday’s press conference which preceded training.
‘You can’t compare the Currie Cup and Tests but he showed great tactical awareness in winning the Currie Cup with the Sharks in 2010 as 19 or 20 year old. Suddenly I’ve seen some of that in him again and he is really improving and knocking on the door hard at the moment.’
Steyn is now unlikely to feature in the match 22 as Meyer doesn’t see him as an impact player, with Elton Jantjies expected to provide cover on the wood.
Lambie has an opportunity to stake a serious claim for the shirt and will be acutely aware of the importance of a strong performance at the weekend. Johan Goosen remains Meyer’s preferred pivot of those at his disposal, but with Meyer set to commit to a deputy for Goosen for the 2013 season and onwards towards the World Cup, Lambie has an inside lane.
‘I know Morne will get back to his best soon,’ Meyer said. ‘Dan Carter said to me a couple of years ago that he went through a difficult time and went to France and came back a better player, which gives me confidence about Morne [Meyer was intimating that a break will have done Steyn good]. But you also want to see who is the next guy after Goosen.’
Meyer lamented that nearly a year into his reign he was still deciding between flyhalves.
‘Because the three are young [Goosen, Lambie and Jantjies] the only way you’ll see whether they have it or not is by playing them. The difficulty is that if your flyhalf isn’t on song then you lose because he runs the whole game plan. I would have loved to have the opportunity earlier in my tenure to look at the 10s. But I didn’t have that luxury. We’re probably the only elite nation without an established 10,’ he said.
He did, however, express delight at the new-found depth in a position that has historically been troublesome.
‘I’m happy at what we have at present and then future looks good with Handre Pollard and others coming through,’ he said. ‘If you look at the last 10 years this is probably the best group of flyhalves we’ve had available. But how they respond in these conditions is key. They’re all good at running and distributing the ball, but with the World Cup being in England you’ll need guys who are tactically astute. They all have to work on that aspect of their games.’
Meanwhile, JP Pietersen is set to be reinstated on the wing after missing the Rugby Championship through injury. Francois Hougaard is likely to retain his place on the opposite flank.
Jean de Villiers and Francois Louw didn’t participate in the contact session but the former ran freely and is expected to overcome a hamstring strain to start. Louw has a neck injury that is being monitored. If he fails to respond to treatment he will be replaced at openside flank by Marcell Coetzee, with Arno Botha coming onto the bench.
Adriaan Strauss will keep his place at hooker ahead of Schalk Brits, who will be used as an impact player. Elsewhere in the front row, Gurthro Steenkamp was a notable absentee at training, the prop picking up an injury in Toulouse’s match this weekend. In the event of Steenkamp’s injury precluding him from joining the squad, Leinster’s Heinke van der Merwe will be called up.
Probable Springbok XV to face Ireland – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaco Taute, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermuelen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
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5 Nov 2012, 23:50 pm
@victoriabok-99:
Couldnt have said it better myself.
5 Nov 2012, 23:51 pm
@poltergeist-96: why don’t you get fck’d as well while you arsecreep up your supremacists gat .. supremacists gotta learn the lesson.. and if that what it takes I’m all for it every goddamn time.
5 Nov 2012, 23:53 pm
@Heavens Game-93:
If youre only as good as your last game, why dont we drop everyone who has a bad game?
Sorry mate, I dont agree with slogans and punchlines… Jordaan is a very good prospect. No one can have a perfect game every time. Everyone has a bad day at the office once in a while.
5 Nov 2012, 23:53 pm
@skopdiekan-98: De Jongh and Mapoe wouldnt be bad… But I am not too enamoured with Mapoe to be frank…
My excitement combo I mentioned already – 12 JdJ 13 JPP
These tow get picked by some miraculous reason, I wouldnt even watch the other 13 in Green and Gold….
5 Nov 2012, 23:54 pm
@skopdiekan-102:
Skop, do you realise that you are officially the biggest joke on this website?
5 Nov 2012, 23:55 pm
@Heavens Game-100: you want me to find it for you.. it was not you who called him the modern day Mannetjies Roux first up.. that coined term came from me right the way back when.. that how befuddled your self styled memory lapse is when you trying to put feathers in your own cap.. I called Juan De Jongh the modern day Mannetjies Roux before you did.. and that is absolute fact..
5 Nov 2012, 23:56 pm
@Kaizan-78: it means he is stupid. he probably wouldn’t play paul jordaan, james o’connor to as he would see them as “small”
5 Nov 2012, 23:57 pm
@the authority-105: why don’t you laugh out loud you stupid imbecilic punk
have you noticed this website was dying a miserable death till I resurrected myself and spurted a little bit of life back into its dead beat veins.. or you still reckon you the dumbfck ‘authority’ around here?.. dumbfck dunce deluxe.
5 Nov 2012, 23:59 pm
@the authority-103: True in some way, but like you not agreeing with “slogans and punchlines” I dont agree with so called supporters seeming to get these multiple onsets of alzheimers… And forgetting the achievements and ability of players like JdJ and Pat Lambie…
JdJ was part of probably the most successful center partnership in SUper Rugby in 2010… He scored on debut against Wales (if I remember correctly) and held his own against Roberts who at the time was considered to be the best 12 in World Rugby… When given the chance proper to play his game and prove himself as in the CC – he duly did, against an up and coming star in Jordaan to boot…
6 Nov 2012, 00:00 am
De Jongh good points:
- fast
- has a good side step
- has BMT
De Jongh bad points:
- doesnt pass enough
- lacks a kicking game
- a bit on the small side
I am The Authority.
6 Nov 2012, 00:01 am
@skopdiekan-106: Go find it… It better be before the first time I uttered the famous words… If you dont then you can come back and say – “HG I bow to your kennerdom…”
6 Nov 2012, 00:03 am
@victoriabok-79:
Say you were a callgirl that preferred to have abdominal tensing, teeth grinding, intestinal searching *** with your clients.
Now wouldn’t that by virtue of your innate preference mean you have an untoward bias for one race over another??
6 Nov 2012, 00:03 am
@victoriabok-99: wtf is wrong with you.. since when am I an Irish supporter.. are you gone completely fck’d up in your brain…
your coach needs a f’ng smack to his ego riddled prejudices and if that what it takes then that is as good a lesson as he deserves.. same as White lost every time he played Ireland by thinking he was the f’ng bees knees when he wasn’t..
My first and foremost allegiance is to what is right.. next up comes some watered down halfwit fckup kind of blinded loyalty to an outright bloody racist supremacist moron.. you stupid dunce….. shows you still don’t know what is right from wrong you stupid schmuck.
6 Nov 2012, 00:06 am
@the authority-110: you not an authorities arsehole you stupid prat.. you an idiot that thinks it knows what is what… you got erroneous ego oozing from out your gwat.. and its showing schmuckaluck.
@Heavens Game-111: I try find it but its there.. that I know for a fact.
6 Nov 2012, 00:07 am
Decent shake up at the kings
Authority, you cant dismiss people this is a public site not your facebook page
6 Nov 2012, 00:07 am
@the authority-110: You can go shove that authority right up your dutpipe… Henceforth spewing authoritative bullshitt forever and a day…
6 Nov 2012, 00:08 am
@skopdiekan-108:
> have you noticed this website was dying a miserable death till I resurrected myself and spurted a little bit of life back into its dead beat veins
Bliksem Skop, didn’t know your that important
Oh Lord it’s hard to be humble
when you’re perfect in every way.
I can’t wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
6 Nov 2012, 00:10 am
@victoriabok-117: its true go check this little dead beat thread before it came alive.. now what you reckon that might have been that kicked this dead horse into life.. you got any idea perhaps.. even a little inkling?
6 Nov 2012, 00:11 am
@skopdiekan-114: The only fact about Mannetjies and Dejong you may have got right is the Mannetjies like boot straight up your rear you would truly deserve for trying to misappropriate MY original description… Like that Pom supporter who got one proper by the original Mannetjies on tour…
Now show the evidence or consider yourself done in and case closed…
6 Nov 2012, 00:15 am
@skopdiekan-113:
> and spurted a little bit of life
Never use that phrase on Keo, you’ll never hear the end of it
6 Nov 2012, 00:16 am
@skopdiekan-118: Ahem… Before your ego runs rampant in a fantasy never ending story….The spark to this little bit of Keo light in the dark was Box Office HG of course…
Came in… shot off a few canonical posts… withdrew…
20 mins and 100 posts later… Thread’s on fire…
6 Nov 2012, 00:17 am
@Heavens Game-119: well google game up with the poster Mettie calling him the modern day Mannetjies Roux .. but I called him that before you did and you jumped on my description and usurped it as your own..
It was Eoyt 2010 or perhaps even before that I called him that.. the same year you were convinced PdV would lose to Wales and Ireland when Mannetjies De Jongh and PdV proved you wrong.. on both counts.
6 Nov 2012, 00:18 am
@skopdiekan-113:
> wtf is wrong with you.. since when am I an Irish supporter
You said and I quote “and I’m shouting for Ireland to teach him the lesson”
Shouting for a team means supporting it
6 Nov 2012, 00:19 am
Far as i’m concerned racist or ..not, meyer is a toss, its been a painful experience having him as coach. Nothing wud make me happier than for his employers to realise the same, and have him thrown out on his blessed assurance, so that we can just be on with it
6 Nov 2012, 00:22 am
@poltergeist-97:
‘Twat’? What is that?
I don’t speak a$$crack?
6 Nov 2012, 00:24 am
@skopdiekan-122: Mannetjies De Jong made his debut against Wales midyear if I remember correctly, not EOYT, you senile old goat… The EOYT that year Dippy and Tricky got fcked up proper sans JdJ…
I was talking about De Jong long before that…
Now you show me the proof or shove it…
6 Nov 2012, 00:24 am
@Heavens Game-121: it was f’ng dead as a door nail before I rocked up.. you wouldn’t have sparked it alone.. how come it was so dead before I pitched..? your couple sharkshit brethren trying to keep the pillars of that other lonesome backwater website aloft because their little sharkshit noses got put out of joint when the lady of the house called them what they were.. so the place was looking like a fallout shelter down doomsday street .. now they got a problem because they going to have to step down off their high and haughty horse if they ever summon the courage to come slink in here again… and recently I notice this place been rather vrek to say the least… till this schmuck stuck his nose in here again.
6 Nov 2012, 00:27 am
Beware
Dead Thread Ahead
HG about to go to bed…
Cheers VicBok… KicktheBucket… Knobbersall
6 Nov 2012, 00:28 am
@victoriabok-123: its a double edge sword.. a little difficult to negotiate.. there are players in this team that don’t deserve to lose and always put their country pride ahead of their own and play their guts out for the cause.. but this moegoe coach of yours deserves to get smacked silly because he is just too thick to realize his stupidity any other way.. so in this respect it becomes a difficult scenario for supporters like me who gotta put their patriotism in their back pocket and shout for righteousness to rule in spite of the patriotic nature of the beast that is riding on the outcome.
6 Nov 2012, 00:29 am
@skopdiekan-127:
> and recently I notice this place been rather vrek to say the least
Maybe because there are no rugby being played?
Reading the WP fans wanking each other for page after page gets old rather quick
6 Nov 2012, 00:29 am
@Heavens Game-128: yeah it time up.. I’m heading out ook.
I find that thread another time.
6 Nov 2012, 00:30 am
@skopdiekan-129:
Do you have down syndrome?
6 Nov 2012, 00:32 am
@poltergeist-132:
Haha
6 Nov 2012, 00:34 am
@skopdiekan-118:
You really are the dumbest little twit on here arent you?
6 Nov 2012, 00:37 am
@the authority-134: He is indeed. Thats Skop. He’s the village idiot around here.
6 Nov 2012, 00:38 am
@poltergeist-132: @the authority-133: @the authority-134:
check these two fuckwits… the two of them going like bats out of hell at the kiwi’s not too long ago.. stooping to the lowest common denominator of credibility they could summon through their fuckwit idiotic brains… couple of self styled arsecreeps who got sh’t for goddamn brains which come oozing like brown stains out their holy frilly white pantaloons.. stupid moron idiots the pair of them.
6 Nov 2012, 00:40 am
@McAwesome-135: and so say all of us.. another fuckwit that thinks its so mckfckng awesome.. pathetic f’ng ponces up their own magnanimous arseholes in tandem.
6 Nov 2012, 00:42 am
night night.. keep the midnight firelight burning puny punks.
6 Nov 2012, 00:44 am
@skopdiekan-138:
Good night idiot. The village is safe once again.
6 Nov 2012, 00:45 am
@McAwesome-139: haha, nice touch
6 Nov 2012, 00:45 am
Gdam terrible side – fkg **** selections – I’ve given up with these Boks – to he’ll with this ****.
As for tge state if tge site – it’s been effectively killed by tge proclaimed life forces -was actually far more lively way back when – but some ppl don’t like vulgarians – that’s just the way it is – straight-talking truth , what u got left are a handful that kinda like skop skiet and donner – I fear the last great trek of the sharks support could be one trek too many – first the bulls contingent waaid and now it’s the sharks.
6 Nov 2012, 00:46 am
@skopdiekan-138:
> punky punks…
Oooooh good one!
6 Nov 2012, 00:59 am
@poltergeist-132:
You should be thankful for finally coming across others that help make you aware of yourself. Endowing yourself in complete obscurity doesn’t hide what you in fact are. But I’m here to change that you see…
Cos you’re the type to disembowel and then not check that you wiped clean. The consequence of which means walking obliviously with the stench of ether in your aura, but foolishly assuming its the person next to you or equating it to the rotten displacement you have of others.
Down syndrome is a condition not be made light of. Nor should racism in any form be ignored. So you.., saboteur of yourself and all that is pleasant, exonerate yourself from being the scourge of a society and live blissfully in the knowledge of what you are and how you can change that.
6 Nov 2012, 01:01 am
@victoriabok-130:
Victor,
Not sure if you got my reply to a question you aked me on another thread:
“Hey man, sorry I missed this question. No I never saw “Heel against the Head”. I did see “Saturday Night at the Palace” with Paul Slab. Bill Flynn and John Kani. It was amazing.
I am glad to hear you like theatre. My only claim to fame in Joburg is playing a role in PD Uys’ Just Like Home at the Market Theatre. Most of my work was in Cape Town as an actor, before the third Rundu call up, and I just went to study in Dublin to recover from PTSD after that.”
Here’s to Skop en Donder
6 Nov 2012, 01:06 am
The non-selection of de Jong is a complete insult and that’s putting in v nicely, it looks like pure unadulterated racism and even our foreign contingent can see it. This is completely bullshit, it’s not even about transformation of chhosing a guy of the same caliber – de jong is far ahead of any of his contemporirs and cannot even get a look in with frans steyn injured and jacque fourie in japan – it’s complete bullshit
- how the fk does the best centre in south africa get bypassed by a 21 year-old fullback?
Actually it’s all that’s **** about sa rugby – get someone else in.
I hope Ireland win on Saturday.
6 Nov 2012, 01:08 am
@cab-141:
> but some ppl don’t like vulgarians – that’s just the way it is –
That’s still acceptable but the Stormers and WP fans’ group masturbation sessions combined with their quota agenda and racism obsession chase the rugby fans away
6 Nov 2012, 01:13 am
@Jinx2-144:
I saw a lot of stuff at the State Theatre, mostly operas, my great love.
A lot of the smaller plays as well like “Defending the Caveman”
Rundu eh?
My dad went every year, he was PF
Never went to Namibia, would have preferred it to the townships though
6 Nov 2012, 01:16 am
@cab-145: anyone who supports the opposing team to prove a point is an embarrassment.
6 Nov 2012, 01:16 am
@cab-145:
> how the fk does the best centre in south africa get bypassed by a 21 year-old fullback?
He should have eaten his ProNutro when he was growing up
6 Nov 2012, 01:18 am
@fishdish-143: yawn
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