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		<title>By: out wide</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2267014</link>
		<dc:creator>out wide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Surely HM talking about enticing old boys Matfield and du Preez back into the Bok fold would have helped chase some of these young guns overseas?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely HM talking about enticing old boys Matfield and du Preez back into the Bok fold would have helped chase some of these young guns overseas?</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266841</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2266327&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blik-46&lt;/a&gt;: 
hehe
It would make our job and  Ozzies job alot easier.
How would SA get any better playing against scotland and Italy all year?
To be the best you need to play the best...not 4th-10th ranked teams.
NZ and Ozzie are not the problem. The lack of wins is the problem and the reasons why a lot want to leave, Cant beat em....leave em.
I am sure thats not the saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2266327" rel="nofollow">blik-46</a>:<br />
hehe<br />
It would make our job and  Ozzies job alot easier.<br />
How would SA get any better playing against scotland and Italy all year?<br />
To be the best you need to play the best&#8230;not 4th-10th ranked teams.<br />
NZ and Ozzie are not the problem. The lack of wins is the problem and the reasons why a lot want to leave, Cant beat em&#8230;.leave em.<br />
I am sure thats not the saying.</p>
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		<title>By: mshiniwami</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266331</link>
		<dc:creator>mshiniwami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CJ Stander wasnt going to be a Derrick Kuun...A promising flank of future international quality turned into a retread hooker and then career done before turning 28

Meyer&#039;s man management is up to sh*t]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ Stander wasnt going to be a Derrick Kuun&#8230;A promising flank of future international quality turned into a retread hooker and then career done before turning 28</p>
<p>Meyer&#8217;s man management is up to sh*t</p>
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		<title>By: blik</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266327</link>
		<dc:creator>blik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2265935&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;husky-18&lt;/a&gt;: Let&#039;s hope SA do move to Europe instead of playing with the biased kissing cousisns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2265935" rel="nofollow">husky-18</a>: Let&#8217;s hope SA do move to Europe instead of playing with the biased kissing cousisns.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockspider</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266232</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockspider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 06:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How come nobody was worried in 2007 with all the guys playing overseas.  With only 6 Currie Cup sides and not 12 ,players don’t get much chance of exposure in South Africa. South Africa just doesn’t have sufficient top level teams playing at the top to keep the guys in the country. We have the smallest first division or premier division of all top test playing nations.  excluding Australia.  The dominance of the traditional top 6 Powerhouses of Rugby and the exclusion of the rest has caused the guys to play overseas.  29 June 2007 

FRANCE 

Stade Français
Pieter de Villiers (French international), Boela du Plooy, Brian Liebenberg (French international), Frans Viljoen 

Toulouse
Daan Human, Gaffie du Toit 

Cleremont Auvergne
Grant Esterhuizen, John Smit*, Marius Joubert* 

Perpignan
Gavin Hume, Gerrie Britz*, Percy Montgomery^, Ashwin Willemse^ 

Bourgoin
Rudi Coetzee, Wessel Jooste 

Montauban
Braam Immelman 

Castres
Danie Saayman, Gerhard Vosloo 

Brive
Vickus Liebenberg, Johan van Zyl, Hendrik Gerber, Charl van Rensburg 

Montpellier
Drikus Hancke, Rickus Lubbe 

Bayonne
Rob Linde, Jacques Deen, Sam Gerber, Eduard Coetzee 

Narbonne
Henk Eksteen, Retief Uys, Tinus van Rensburg 

Agen
Willem Stoltz, Adri Badenhorst, Pietman van Niekerk, Conrad Stoltz 

Toulouse
Schalk Burger^ 

Toulon (Division Two)
Daniel Muller, Nicky Smit, Charl van Vliet, Nico Breedt, Norman Jordaan, Chris Rossouw, Victor Matfield^ 

ENGLAND 

Gloucester
Rudi Keil, Jake Boer 

Saracens
Cobus Visagie, Neil de Kock 

London Irish
Mike Catt (England international), Danie Coetzee, Faan Rautenbach 

NEC Harlequins
Stuart Abbott (England international), Hal Luscombe (Wales international), Andre Vos, Schalk Burger^ 

Bath
Pieter Dixon, Hottie Louw, Matt Stevens (England international), Michael Claassens, Butch James^ 

Newcastle Falcons
Russell Winter 

Worcester Warriors
Thinus Delport, Greg Rawlinson (New Zealand international) 

Northampton Saints 
Joe van Niekerk, Geoff Appleford (England international), Pat Barnard]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come nobody was worried in 2007 with all the guys playing overseas.  With only 6 Currie Cup sides and not 12 ,players don’t get much chance of exposure in South Africa. South Africa just doesn’t have sufficient top level teams playing at the top to keep the guys in the country. We have the smallest first division or premier division of all top test playing nations.  excluding Australia.  The dominance of the traditional top 6 Powerhouses of Rugby and the exclusion of the rest has caused the guys to play overseas.  29 June 2007 </p>
<p>FRANCE </p>
<p>Stade Français<br />
Pieter de Villiers (French international), Boela du Plooy, Brian Liebenberg (French international), Frans Viljoen </p>
<p>Toulouse<br />
Daan Human, Gaffie du Toit </p>
<p>Cleremont Auvergne<br />
Grant Esterhuizen, John Smit*, Marius Joubert* </p>
<p>Perpignan<br />
Gavin Hume, Gerrie Britz*, Percy Montgomery^, Ashwin Willemse^ </p>
<p>Bourgoin<br />
Rudi Coetzee, Wessel Jooste </p>
<p>Montauban<br />
Braam Immelman </p>
<p>Castres<br />
Danie Saayman, Gerhard Vosloo </p>
<p>Brive<br />
Vickus Liebenberg, Johan van Zyl, Hendrik Gerber, Charl van Rensburg </p>
<p>Montpellier<br />
Drikus Hancke, Rickus Lubbe </p>
<p>Bayonne<br />
Rob Linde, Jacques Deen, Sam Gerber, Eduard Coetzee </p>
<p>Narbonne<br />
Henk Eksteen, Retief Uys, Tinus van Rensburg </p>
<p>Agen<br />
Willem Stoltz, Adri Badenhorst, Pietman van Niekerk, Conrad Stoltz </p>
<p>Toulouse<br />
Schalk Burger^ </p>
<p>Toulon (Division Two)<br />
Daniel Muller, Nicky Smit, Charl van Vliet, Nico Breedt, Norman Jordaan, Chris Rossouw, Victor Matfield^ </p>
<p>ENGLAND </p>
<p>Gloucester<br />
Rudi Keil, Jake Boer </p>
<p>Saracens<br />
Cobus Visagie, Neil de Kock </p>
<p>London Irish<br />
Mike Catt (England international), Danie Coetzee, Faan Rautenbach </p>
<p>NEC Harlequins<br />
Stuart Abbott (England international), Hal Luscombe (Wales international), Andre Vos, Schalk Burger^ </p>
<p>Bath<br />
Pieter Dixon, Hottie Louw, Matt Stevens (England international), Michael Claassens, Butch James^ </p>
<p>Newcastle Falcons<br />
Russell Winter </p>
<p>Worcester Warriors<br />
Thinus Delport, Greg Rawlinson (New Zealand international) </p>
<p>Northampton Saints<br />
Joe van Niekerk, Geoff Appleford (England international), Pat Barnard</p>
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		<title>By: Jinx2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266206</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinx2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 00:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2266180&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Finfan-43&lt;/a&gt;: 

My commiserations for KZN]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2266180" rel="nofollow">Finfan-43</a>: </p>
<p>My commiserations for KZN</p>
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		<title>By: Finfan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266180</link>
		<dc:creator>Finfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this a political blog? I thought it was exclusively for rugby? Guess I had it wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a political blog? I thought it was exclusively for rugby? Guess I had it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jinx2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266175</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinx2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ANC will lose Gauteng and Northern Cape to the DA in 2014.  Simultaneously, Holomisa will take Eastern Cape.  We have two more years to endure.  In 2014 the Nation will come of age under a government of National Unity.  Seems impossible, but isn&#039;t that the case more and more, day by day.  Zuma is going to need his bunker big time, Just have to find him Eva from &quot;Up&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ANC will lose Gauteng and Northern Cape to the DA in 2014.  Simultaneously, Holomisa will take Eastern Cape.  We have two more years to endure.  In 2014 the Nation will come of age under a government of National Unity.  Seems impossible, but isn&#8217;t that the case more and more, day by day.  Zuma is going to need his bunker big time, Just have to find him Eva from &#8220;Up&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Finfan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266170</link>
		<dc:creator>Finfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2266167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Greenies-40&lt;/a&gt;: Explain the meaning of your nic &quot;Greenies&quot; please. Boks? Ireland? Your favourite plant?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2266167" rel="nofollow">Greenies-40</a>: Explain the meaning of your nic &#8220;Greenies&#8221; please. Boks? Ireland? Your favourite plant?</p>
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		<title>By: Greenies</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266167</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you do not want the Exodus

- improve the standard of living in SA
- squash voilence and crime
- remove racism

That as a starting point will also reduce the number of &quot;scientist and engineers&quot; that are needed to move SA forward, economically, inovatively and in basic advancement. This will remove the &quot;after thought tag&quot; of the BRICs (small S as SA is going backwards acording to international businesses)  nations and make us one of the BRICS emerging nations.

But so too are every &quot;scientist and engineer&quot; once qualified, flee SA at the first opotunity. Why?

Why the hell not, if the Govt are dragging SA into the ground the last place you want to be is in it.

SO, if a rugby skill can get you out, i say, goooooo for it and get that passport.
The weather in Ireland might be crap but at least you can get pissed at night and walk home staggering and not have to worry about your back!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not want the Exodus</p>
<p>- improve the standard of living in SA<br />
- squash voilence and crime<br />
- remove racism</p>
<p>That as a starting point will also reduce the number of &#8220;scientist and engineers&#8221; that are needed to move SA forward, economically, inovatively and in basic advancement. This will remove the &#8220;after thought tag&#8221; of the BRICs (small S as SA is going backwards acording to international businesses)  nations and make us one of the BRICS emerging nations.</p>
<p>But so too are every &#8220;scientist and engineer&#8221; once qualified, flee SA at the first opotunity. Why?</p>
<p>Why the hell not, if the Govt are dragging SA into the ground the last place you want to be is in it.</p>
<p>SO, if a rugby skill can get you out, i say, goooooo for it and get that passport.<br />
The weather in Ireland might be <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> but at least you can get pissed at night and walk home staggering and not have to worry about your back!</p>
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		<title>By: Slider</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2266000</link>
		<dc:creator>Slider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if Stander stays in Ireland for 3 years, he can&#039;t be capped until AFTER the next world cup. So, really the Irish have no intention of capturing him, he is simply designated as a (qualifying) project because Munster have their full quota of non-project overseas players. (Howlett, BJ Botha, Wian du Preez, Laulala). We can wait until 2016 and bring him back to SA then, as a better player. Might be smart to cap him in a 2015 world cup warm-up game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Stander stays in Ireland for 3 years, he can&#8217;t be capped until AFTER the next world cup. So, really the Irish have no intention of capturing him, he is simply designated as a (qualifying) project because Munster have their full quota of non-project overseas players. (Howlett, BJ Botha, Wian du Preez, Laulala). We can wait until 2016 and bring him back to SA then, as a better player. Might be smart to cap him in a 2015 world cup warm-up game.</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265996</link>
		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HM&#039;s worried for nothing!
The real talent in Jantjies, Kolisie, Rhule, Mvovo, Carr etc are staying put
Rest assured!
;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HM&#8217;s worried for nothing!<br />
The real talent in Jantjies, Kolisie, Rhule, Mvovo, Carr etc are staying put<br />
Rest assured!<br />
 <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: brains_trust</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265995</link>
		<dc:creator>brains_trust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no woman, no pie !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no woman, no pie !</p>
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		<title>By: brains_trust</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265994</link>
		<dc:creator>brains_trust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What did Bob Marley say when his wife left him and took the oven?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did Bob Marley say when his wife left him and took the oven?</p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265991</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2265978&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;katman-32&lt;/a&gt;: Didn&#039;t dissapoint!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2265978" rel="nofollow">katman-32</a>: Didn&#8217;t dissapoint!</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265981</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2265976&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dawn-30&lt;/a&gt;: Or as you people like to say, djulle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2265976" rel="nofollow">Dawn-30</a>: Or as you people like to say, djulle.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265980</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So if anyone else also wants a donut... I hope you like jam in too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if anyone else also wants a donut&#8230; I hope you like jam in too.</p>
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		<title>By: katman</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265978</link>
		<dc:creator>katman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wi&#039; jam in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wi&#8217; jam in.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/06/exodus-reaching-critical-point/#comment-2265977</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2265973&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;katman-28&lt;/a&gt;: It&#039;s too late in the day for my brain to work...please tell me the answer.......this has to be funny.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2265973" rel="nofollow">katman-28</a>: It&#8217;s too late in the day for my brain to work&#8230;please tell me the answer&#8230;&#8230;.this has to be funny&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2265973&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;katman-28&lt;/a&gt;: 

You know, &quot;you people&quot;?

&quot;You guys&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2265973" rel="nofollow">katman-28</a>: </p>
<p>You know, &#8220;you people&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;You guys&#8221;</p>
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