ANC slams Bok coach
8 Nov 2012
ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe says Heyneke Meyer ‘is not keen on putting black players in the team’.
On Tuesday, Meyer selected Jaco Taute ahead of Juan de Jongh at outside centre, Pat Lambie and Morne Steyn ahead of Elton Jantjies at flyhalf, and Adriaan Strauss and Schalk Brits ahead of Chiliboy Ralepelle at hooker. Three players of colour were included in the starting XV – Zane Kirchner, JP Pietersen and Beast Mtawarira – with another two – De Jongh and Lwazi Mvovo – on the eight-man bench.
‘The situation is the coaches select the basic minimum black players in the team and relax thereafter and overlook good players,’ Mantashe said. ‘Why do we wait until there are no other players? The attitude is that coaches think this is a white sport and they meet the basic amount of players.’
Mantashe said it seemed like Meyer was reluctant to select black players who deserved a place in the side.
‘My view is that the new coach is not keen on putting black players in the team, even those who have proven they are the best.’
He said there was something wrong if someone like Jantjies was not selected and that Mvovo and Stormers flanker Siya Kolisi (who was injured in late August and ruled out for the rest of the season) also deserved a spot in the team.
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8 Nov 2012, 16:16 pm
@Dawn-499: Yes she has…. Howabout you me go have a rough and naughty replay of the CC final… HG’s humble hut is empty for a little while… so there is space for a bit of vigorous couch rugby…
8 Nov 2012, 16:24 pm
@nama1:
Where did I say that you said he was a racist?
8 Nov 2012, 16:25 pm
@Heavens Game-501:
No thanks
8 Nov 2012, 16:29 pm
@Daddy-502:
@Daddy-493:
@nama1-490:
Lots of us don’t rate Juan De Jongh. He is too small and too individualistic.
Heyneke Meyer deserves an extended run before we judge him as a coach. He has made his selections. We need to accept it and support the team. He is not a racist.
8 Nov 2012, 16:41 pm
@nama1:
I dont see any instance of me accusing you of calling Meyer a racist. I simply said he is not a racist.
Sounds like you have a guilty conscience.
8 Nov 2012, 16:42 pm
@Dawn-503: Okay.
8 Nov 2012, 16:54 pm
@Dawn-460: Daughter of Bles Bridges .After your time.
8 Nov 2012, 16:58 pm
@Daddy-505:
OK then. If you say so.
8 Nov 2012, 17:01 pm
@ryecatcher-507: Did Gwede buy his false
teeth at a hospice charity shop.
Mild mockery.Please please please dont call me rascist.
8 Nov 2012, 17:03 pm
racist .I should know how to spell the word by now.
8 Nov 2012, 17:06 pm
I’m going to wrap up this thread for all of you and put you out of your misery.
HG remains a moron, and feels the need to constantly login here and prove it to everyone.
Everyone has a lot to say about HM.
Same everyone had a lot to say about all preceding coaches.
Everyone thinks they are right.
There is no right.
It is the coaches neck on the line, and he will live and die by his decisions.
HM has a proven track record, the only current coach in SA with one. He will succeed.
Footnote:
I personally would play Taute @ 15, JDJ @ 13, but I’m not the coach.
8 Nov 2012, 17:07 pm
@ryecatcher-510:
Maybe you’re thinking of fascist?
8 Nov 2012, 17:15 pm
@Stawm-511: Shutup wench…
8 Nov 2012, 17:21 pm
@Heavens Game-513:
Served and owned.
8 Nov 2012, 17:24 pm
@Stawm-514: Yes, thats why I said it… Bad manners to talk with your mouth full… Now dont make me say it again….
8 Nov 2012, 17:31 pm
@Heavens Game-515:
How about some more sage predictions from you?
8 Nov 2012, 18:20 pm
Another beaut from Hg’s new buddy,Mitt.Just before the American election new jobs data showed that 177 000 jobs were created.All saw it as economic progress,but Mitt saw it as stagnation.Unlike Hg,the American electorate saw through his fake facade.Saying that 47 percent of Americans live on government handouts probably didn’t help either.I guess our resident fool,Hg ,didn’t know about faux pas either ??
8 Nov 2012, 18:57 pm
Welcome back Pietman,but who can you be is the million dollar question tonight.My money is on Horings.
. 83Pietman
November 8th, 2012 at 13:05 SAST
@ Sharks_forever:
@ Puma:
@ grootblousmile:
@ superBul:
Hello boys!
Look, I am not going to get started here on RT with this political rugby bullshyte, I have had my fill on Voldy with those ‘Campsbay cowboys and capeflatsboys’ down in the Cape on this issue, and I’m done with that.
BUT, I want to defend our national coach 100% on his selections for the Irish test (as I had often done with PdeV).
Unlike our rugby coaches, who are accountable and can be lambasted and have their contracts terminated for non-performance, this Gwede Mantashe oke can easily just sit there and make a few occasional controversial statements whenever he takes his snout out of the gravy trough, he is accountable only to the caders who will protect his arse regardless.
Feel free to come bite me Gwede,IF you can counter me on the following regarding selection:
* Kolisi is out for the season, why is he even mentioned?
* Chiliboy ‘Sicknote’ Ralapele is on the come-back trail after a long injury (again! Take note Superbul…), so he is a ‘no-go’.
* JdJ’s selection would have meant Taute at fullback with a loss of Kirchner, so no ‘black’(sic) player gains from that move either (in any event, a brilliant try by JdJ in the CC final at home after a practiced move that took a week to perfect doesn’t relate to any such performances in an overseas international in Dublin’ Ireland);
* Mujati is not eligible;
* Mvovo ipo of Hougaard with his BMT and versatility is no improvement, quite the opposite;
* Jantjies was kuk against the All Blacks in his firt run-up game, he choked big time and is clearly not ready to be picked in the first 15 at this stage of his career.
So, GO Heyneke!!!!! You have my full support.
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8 Nov 2012, 20:31 pm
” Does deep rooted racist behaviour still exist in SA Rugby? The simple and straight answer is yes. Can we call it racism? ”
Who has been saying this from day one of appearing on this unearthly sight and that was way, way back then?
Who further coined the term neo-racism to describe this modified racism in a supposedly ‘democratic’ S.Africa.? How else do you describe those cosmetic or window-dressing changes(black minstrel, figures of mostly 15% or 3/15 so euphemistically referred to as “quotas”)?
Who thus still constantly and correctly says then, “where I lead you will still follow?
The difference is called foresight and only gifted people have it, like Einstein, Newton, London, Shaw etc., etc.
8 Nov 2012, 20:32 pm
@ET.-519:
sight should truly read SITE
8 Nov 2012, 20:46 pm
@ET.-520: Don’t worry,bud.We sometimes use the word ‘flawed’ to geniuses like you.
8 Nov 2012, 22:21 pm
@Heavens Game-515:
You remind me of the fat pervert in “The Woman with the Dragon Tattoo”. Sies, jou vark!
9 Nov 2012, 01:32 am
@wpallday-98: Bulls won s14 2007 – a comp without any AB’s for the 1st 7 rounds….talk about a quota win
Frans Steyn could have pre-ended this mess, if he just kicked the ball out in the final…..Sheesh
9 Nov 2012, 08:51 am
Just read this article now. It worries me that politicians get to have their public say about selections in the national side. They certainly are no better equipped to do so than the rest of us. Having said that though, I also have a sneaky suspicion that he may have a point. The thing is it isn’t so much racism as size-ism.
9 Nov 2012, 09:20 am
Why focus on rugby so much ANC? Haven’t you got more important things to do like… I don’t know, fulfilling all of those empty promises that you made to your brainwashed, brain dead electorate?
Don’t worry about rugby … don’t even worry about cricket. If you were really concerned about sport in South Africa, you’d look closely at the shambles of a football (soccer) team.
The team hasn’t won a bloody thing since the African Cup of Nations in 1996 and has been a national embarrassment since. Also, if sport is supposed to be “representative” then where are the whites, coloureds and Indians in football?
9 Nov 2012, 10:29 am
I am so sick of the cANCer! Thank heavens I’ll be rid of them soon.
9 Nov 2012, 10:41 am
@Beast-526: Where are you off to?
9 Nov 2012, 11:37 am
Heyneke Meyer have taken South Affican rugby back to apartheid. He is as racist as they come. One set of rules for whites and another for non-whites
I have supported the boks through thick and thin but this have to be the worst appointment ever. He is making this team more whiter by the day. Zane and Beast are next to be chopped.
9 Nov 2012, 11:58 am
@adi-528: Are you taking the piss? Sure his appointments might not be the best but why make it purely about race? It’s a simple law of averages, there are more white rugby players than there are black ones.
The converse could be said of football – the thing is, it doesn’t matter, he’s not making the right white selections either.
9 Nov 2012, 12:35 pm
@adi-528:
PDV’s 2011 EOY RWC squad 8 player’s of colour out of 30
HM’s 2012 EOYT squad 10 players of colour out of 30 and with Habana out injured…
You’re not the sharpest eh chum?
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