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	<title>Comments on: Meyer&#8217;s selection shocker</title>
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		<title>By: Mountainsausage</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2269034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mountainsausage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 11:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wish Keo would stop pulling the race card - get over it 
Showing faith in players who have performed well in the past at least shows a little loyalty, something the &quot;disadvantaged&quot; Keohane knows f...all about]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish Keo would stop pulling the race card &#8211; get over it<br />
Showing faith in players who have performed well in the past at least shows a little loyalty, something the &#8220;disadvantaged&#8221; Keohane knows f&#8230;all about</p>
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		<title>By: nama1</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268912</link>
		<dc:creator>nama1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2268144&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beast-352&lt;/a&gt;: 
&quot;You can only be recist towards someone with a racial identity. clearly this is not the case with the English. &quot;

I&#039;m sure you can explain this. 

What is your definition of  a &quot;racist&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2268144" rel="nofollow">Beast-352</a>:<br />
&#8220;You can only be recist towards someone with a racial identity. clearly this is not the case with the English. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you can explain this. </p>
<p>What is your definition of  a &#8220;racist&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Soda</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268841</link>
		<dc:creator>Soda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meyer is as thick as pig sh1te.  Simple as that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meyer is as thick as pig sh1te.  Simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: cab</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268829</link>
		<dc:creator>cab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jantjies is not the shocker - he&#039;s average

the shocker is de Jong who is bladdy good. It&#039;s actually completely wrong - tge guy has consistently been outstanding.

these okes are actually their own worst enemies - he&#039;s now going to cone under increasing pressure from the politicians - and in this case rightfully so , it&#039;s complete bullshit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jantjies is not the shocker &#8211; he&#8217;s average</p>
<p>the shocker is de Jong who is bladdy good. It&#8217;s actually completely wrong &#8211; tge guy has consistently been outstanding.</p>
<p>these okes are actually their own worst enemies &#8211; he&#8217;s now going to cone under increasing pressure from the politicians &#8211; and in this case rightfully so , it&#8217;s complete bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: bdewet</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268727</link>
		<dc:creator>bdewet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heyneke is very naive i&#039;ll say. How can JdJ not get a place in the starting. He is on current form our best 13. Hougaard is selected as a scrum half, what message is he sending out to the wings in the squad!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heyneke is very naive i&#8217;ll say. How can JdJ not get a place in the starting. He is on current form our best 13. Hougaard is selected as a scrum half, what message is he sending out to the wings in the squad!</p>
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		<title>By: Dusky</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268692</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2268257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bouts-355&lt;/a&gt;: The fact that Rhule is a Cheetah has nothing to do with your opinion ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2268257" rel="nofollow">Bouts-355</a>: The fact that Rhule is a Cheetah has nothing to do with your opinion ?</p>
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		<title>By: husky</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268685</link>
		<dc:creator>husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s put keow&#039;s agenda&#039;s to one side for a moment. He isn&#039;t called the Poison Dwarf for nothing. 

Focus on Meyer (and his coaching team) for a moment. I don&#039;t care who he picks; it&#039;s the results that count for me and him (lol). So far he is not doing well. A better coach would either have dropped or fixed MS when he got the yips (a reliable place kicker is imperative in Test rugby). A better coach would have a well drilled team that can keep a defensive pattern and doesn&#039;t give up turnover ball easily, lose lineouts and give away scrum penalties. A better coach would have depth and flexibility in an extended Bok squad where very player knew his place and the team&#039;s tactics. A better coach would improve any player that came into the Bok squad but wouldn&#039;t boast or crow over this (Lambie was no better yet HM claimed success?).

Heineken gonna havta improve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s put keow&#8217;s agenda&#8217;s to one side for a moment. He isn&#8217;t called the Poison Dwarf for nothing. </p>
<p>Focus on Meyer (and his coaching team) for a moment. I don&#8217;t care who he picks; it&#8217;s the results that count for me and him (lol). So far he is not doing well. A better coach would either have dropped or fixed MS when he got the yips (a reliable place kicker is imperative in Test rugby). A better coach would have a well drilled team that can keep a defensive pattern and doesn&#8217;t give up turnover ball easily, lose lineouts and give away scrum penalties. A better coach would have depth and flexibility in an extended Bok squad where very player knew his place and the team&#8217;s tactics. A better coach would improve any player that came into the Bok squad but wouldn&#8217;t boast or crow over this (Lambie was no better yet HM claimed success?).</p>
<p>Heineken gonna havta improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Maljan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268651</link>
		<dc:creator>Maljan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was so encouraged when HM was selected as coach but my goodness, I am hoping we lose all three games to get rid of him. (Can&#039;t believe I would EVER say that I would wish the Boks to lose!!!). Give me PdV anyday! HM can hide behind injuries, but its not injuries that we lost the Championship, it has been poor selection and poor captaincy. We have the talent, no doubt! We had the AB&#039;s on the rack in Dunedin 9and the Assie&#039;s in Perth - that&#039;s proof enough!

MK&#039;s article is 100% but way to long. Its simple. Steyn doesn&#039;t deserve to be on Tour, let alone in the match day 23! Finish and Klaar. It has nothing to do with colour. Jantjies, right now, is better than Steyn. What more is there to be said!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so encouraged when HM was selected as coach but my goodness, I am hoping we lose all three games to get rid of him. (Can&#8217;t believe I would EVER say that I would wish the Boks to lose!!!). Give me PdV anyday! HM can hide behind injuries, but its not injuries that we lost the Championship, it has been poor selection and poor captaincy. We have the talent, no doubt! We had the AB&#8217;s on the rack in Dunedin 9and the Assie&#8217;s in Perth &#8211; that&#8217;s proof enough!</p>
<p>MK&#8217;s article is 100% but way to long. Its simple. Steyn doesn&#8217;t deserve to be on Tour, let alone in the match day 23! Finish and Klaar. It has nothing to do with colour. Jantjies, right now, is better than Steyn. What more is there to be said!</p>
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		<title>By: rugbytroll</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268407</link>
		<dc:creator>rugbytroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oopa gangnam style]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oopa gangnam style</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268297</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lepel</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268266</link>
		<dc:creator>lepel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meyer, in his first year as Sprinbok coach, has been FAR worse than Snorre was.

He is beyond conservative and an absolutely blind fool.
Certainly giving Streauli a go as the worst coach in the modern era.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meyer, in his first year as Sprinbok coach, has been FAR worse than Snorre was.</p>
<p>He is beyond conservative and an absolutely blind fool.<br />
Certainly giving Streauli a go as the worst coach in the modern era.</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268262</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;MARK KEOHANE writes that Heyneke Meyer’s failure to include Elton Jantjies in the Bok match 23 cannot be excused or justified&quot;.


CANE writes......................................You can&#039;t keep all the people happy, all of the time..........................so Heyneke may as well please himself.

So phuuck Markie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MARK KEOHANE writes that Heyneke Meyer’s failure to include Elton Jantjies in the Bok match 23 cannot be excused or justified&#8221;.</p>
<p>CANE writes&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..You can&#8217;t keep all the people happy, all of the time&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..so Heyneke may as well please himself.</p>
<p>So phuuck Markie.</p>
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		<title>By: Bouts</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268257</link>
		<dc:creator>Bouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm... yeah. 

De Jongh should be in for JDV, and JDV should be booted from the boks.  Kolisi should have been chosen instead of Vermeulen.  Lwazi should have been chosen before JP. ROFL. :)

Guys, Meyer (as much as I dislike the guy) did say he&#039;s gonna test all players in these three games to find the players he&#039;ll be going forward with.  Which means, Jantjies will undoubtedly be the starting 10 next week, as well as De Jongh.

Mvovo doesn&#039;t deserve to be there. This season he was terrible... nothing like he was last year.  Rhule should be ahead of Lwazi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; yeah. </p>
<p>De Jongh should be in for JDV, and JDV should be booted from the boks.  Kolisi should have been chosen instead of Vermeulen.  Lwazi should have been chosen before JP. ROFL. <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Guys, Meyer (as much as I dislike the guy) did say he&#8217;s gonna test all players in these three games to find the players he&#8217;ll be going forward with.  Which means, Jantjies will undoubtedly be the starting 10 next week, as well as De Jongh.</p>
<p>Mvovo doesn&#8217;t deserve to be there. This season he was terrible&#8230; nothing like he was last year.  Rhule should be ahead of Lwazi.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268241</link>
		<dc:creator>Slumtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2268203&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;greatest13gerber-353&lt;/a&gt;: duh - no brain to think with for yourself? I agree totally with Mark on this one. Shocking. De Jongh and Jantjes as well as playing Taute out of position yet again and placing Francois Houghaard at wing ahead of Lwazi. Really really poor - as was his avoidance of giving Siya Kolisi a chance when he so easily could have. Too many Bulls players all year long. Pierre Spies ad nauseum, Jacques Potgieter, Wynand Olivier (who would probably be in the midfield today had he not gone to Japan).  Poolman (whO??ffs). And to think we complained about PDV? Meyer has made some very very poor selections this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2268203" rel="nofollow">greatest13gerber-353</a>: duh &#8211; no brain to think with for yourself? I agree totally with Mark on this one. Shocking. De Jongh and Jantjes as well as playing Taute out of position yet again and placing Francois Houghaard at wing ahead of Lwazi. Really really poor &#8211; as was his avoidance of giving Siya Kolisi a chance when he so easily could have. Too many Bulls players all year long. Pierre Spies ad nauseum, Jacques Potgieter, Wynand Olivier (who would probably be in the midfield today had he not gone to Japan).  Poolman (whO??ffs). And to think we complained about PDV? Meyer has made some very very poor selections this year.</p>
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		<title>By: greatest13gerber</title>
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		<dc:creator>greatest13gerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am 100% behind Meyer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 100% behind Meyer</p>
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		<title>By: Beast</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268144</link>
		<dc:creator>Beast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2268134&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dylan-351&lt;/a&gt;: Trust you have a lot of experience in the bum-shafting department. It is about the only statement of value that you have made. You can only be recist towards someone with a racial identity. clearly this is not the case with the English. Please, in future think carefully before spewing drivel, alternatively, shut-up and sit in the corner while the big people are talking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2268134" rel="nofollow">Dylan-351</a>: Trust you have a lot of experience in the bum-shafting department. It is about the only statement of value that you have made. You can only be recist towards someone with a racial identity. clearly this is not the case with the English. Please, in future think carefully before spewing drivel, alternatively, shut-up and sit in the corner while the big people are talking.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@306.saru1983 - i agree, and not only racist toward blacks, but English too!

To pick MS before PL &amp; EJ is racist from all sides. I think when HM brings MS his morning coffee in bed they discuss the demise if SA rugby and how the previous evenings dinner tasted.

@323.Diplomatic oeK - someone you can trust your life with? maybe, unless you were in a death match against ZK, MS or J Krger. then you would have to watch your back to cos whilst your fighting HM would try shaft you up the bum just before you die.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@306.saru1983 &#8211; i agree, and not only racist toward blacks, but English too!</p>
<p>To pick MS before PL &amp; EJ is racist from all sides. I think when HM brings MS his morning coffee in bed they discuss the demise if SA rugby and how the previous evenings dinner tasted.</p>
<p>@323.Diplomatic oeK &#8211; someone you can trust your life with? maybe, unless you were in a death match against ZK, MS or J Krger. then you would have to watch your back to cos whilst your fighting HM would try shaft you up the bum just before you die.</p>
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		<title>By: mako</title>
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		<dc:creator>mako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to say that HM is probably both racially biased and stupid. Steyn shouldn&#039;t be anywhere near a bok jersey on this tour, in fact he should be at home with his wife. Taute is nowhere at centre, and has done nothing to justify his inclusion in that (or any position) at this point in time, apart from his size. Well, we saw how far that got Spies....

JDJ has shown that he is good enough and should be given more time in the Bok Jersey, and Jantjies should be Lambie&#039;s cover on the bench, simple as that. I had such hope when HM was appointed as Bok coach, but have watched in horror as he has shown his hand. I would far rather have Divvy still there to be honest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that HM is probably both racially biased and stupid. Steyn shouldn&#8217;t be anywhere near a bok jersey on this tour, in fact he should be at home with his wife. Taute is nowhere at centre, and has done nothing to justify his inclusion in that (or any position) at this point in time, apart from his size. Well, we saw how far that got Spies&#8230;.</p>
<p>JDJ has shown that he is good enough and should be given more time in the Bok Jersey, and Jantjies should be Lambie&#8217;s cover on the bench, simple as that. I had such hope when HM was appointed as Bok coach, but have watched in horror as he has shown his hand. I would far rather have Divvy still there to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bill</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/08/meyers-selection-shocker/#comment-2268002</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 05:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Tac post 58. 

This is what is called the laager mentality. Why select someone you know won&#039;t perform than someone who could perform. The MS that has his his 1st 30 caps is not around at the moment. Your insurance is null and void. 

EJ could be on fire. 

The bigger gamble is playing Morne.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tac post 58. </p>
<p>This is what is called the laager mentality. Why select someone you know won&#8217;t perform than someone who could perform. The MS that has his his 1st 30 caps is not around at the moment. Your insurance is null and void. </p>
<p>EJ could be on fire. </p>
<p>The bigger gamble is playing Morne.</p>
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		<title>By: BrumbiesBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrumbiesBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2267769&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wnbb-187&lt;/a&gt;: You&#039;d be surprised.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2267781&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Transformation-199&lt;/a&gt;: Hey Einstein, there were no Boks to support because of isolation, remember?

And BTW, I believe isolation was the best way to go at the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2267769" rel="nofollow">wnbb-187</a>: You&#8217;d be surprised.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-2267781" rel="nofollow">Transformation-199</a>: Hey Einstein, there were no Boks to support because of isolation, remember?</p>
<p>And BTW, I believe isolation was the best way to go at the time.</p>
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