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		<title>By: williebre</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271483</link>
		<dc:creator>williebre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 13:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271453&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;willievz-39&lt;/a&gt;:  From what i&#039;ve seen Taute is safe under the high ball and he can kick the ball a country mile. Keep in mind that he also took a few long range goals ala Francois Steyn. Admittedly Heyneke said he is more prone to selecting the bigger and stronger players - Therefore a few guys in SA will never crack the nod...unless there are some more injuries...

I don&#039;t think Zane is even in the top 4 best fullbacks in SA.
Louis Ludick, Joe Petersen, Willie le Roux, Andries Coetzee....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271453" rel="nofollow">willievz-39</a>:  From what i&#8217;ve seen Taute is safe under the high ball and he can kick the ball a country mile. Keep in mind that he also took a few long range goals ala Francois Steyn. Admittedly Heyneke said he is more prone to selecting the bigger and stronger players &#8211; Therefore a few guys in SA will never crack the nod&#8230;unless there are some more injuries&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Zane is even in the top 4 best fullbacks in SA.<br />
Louis Ludick, Joe Petersen, Willie le Roux, Andries Coetzee&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: willievz</title>
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		<dc:creator>willievz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271451&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;williebre-37&lt;/a&gt;: 

I don&#039;t think Taute is not more secure under the garryowen.  Here Zane might well be the best in SA.

Taute&#039;s kicking game is also not yet on Kirchner&#039;s level.

However, I do agree that Kirchner is a mediocre option for the Boks, and that there are better players at home.  Like Andries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271451" rel="nofollow">williebre-37</a>: </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Taute is not more secure under the garryowen.  Here Zane might well be the best in SA.</p>
<p>Taute&#8217;s kicking game is also not yet on Kirchner&#8217;s level.</p>
<p>However, I do agree that Kirchner is a mediocre option for the Boks, and that there are better players at home.  Like Andries.</p>
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		<title>By: willievz</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271452</link>
		<dc:creator>willievz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271450&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;daydreamer-36&lt;/a&gt;: Bok fringe players will always get a chance on EOYTs because of injuries to first-choice resources.

It&#039;s just the way the cookie crumbles in the modern game.

A Tier 1 team will hardly ever field a first-choice unit anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271450" rel="nofollow">daydreamer-36</a>: Bok fringe players will always get a chance on EOYTs because of injuries to first-choice resources.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just the way the cookie crumbles in the modern game.</p>
<p>A Tier 1 team will hardly ever field a first-choice unit anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: williebre</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271451</link>
		<dc:creator>williebre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reason being - Taute has more pace that Kirchner, so he could actually join the line and maybe break the line, and he is also secure under the high ball. I only kept JdV at 12 because he is quite an imposing &amp; strong runner, JdJ is more of a flashy mover.... will be quite a pair to contend with...
I also rate Andries Coetzee highly, since he wasn&#039;t picked for the touring side, and I really hope one of the Super Rugby unions decide to use him for the tournament.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reason being &#8211; Taute has more pace that Kirchner, so he could actually join the line and maybe break the line, and he is also secure under the high ball. I only kept JdV at 12 because he is quite an imposing &amp; strong runner, JdJ is more of a flashy mover&#8230;. will be quite a pair to contend with&#8230;<br />
I also rate Andries Coetzee highly, since he wasn&#8217;t picked for the touring side, and I really hope one of the Super Rugby unions decide to use him for the tournament.</p>
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		<title>By: daydreamer</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271450</link>
		<dc:creator>daydreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the EOYT, when else do Bok fringe players get to have a chance to prove themselves at test level, especially in the coach&#039;s first year? This article is flawed, nothing new from Cardinelli...

Time to put Taute at 15, JDJ at 13, H vd Merwe to start at 1, Cilliers to start at 3 due to du Plessis&#039; injury and why not start Mvovo on the left wing with Rhule to come on in 2nd half.  Hougaard to bench as reserve scrummie.  Elton to bench with 20 minutes game time at least.  Steyn to the stands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the EOYT, when else do Bok fringe players get to have a chance to prove themselves at test level, especially in the coach&#8217;s first year? This article is flawed, nothing new from Cardinelli&#8230;</p>
<p>Time to put Taute at 15, JDJ at 13, H vd Merwe to start at 1, Cilliers to start at 3 due to du Plessis&#8217; injury and why not start Mvovo on the left wing with Rhule to come on in 2nd half.  Hougaard to bench as reserve scrummie.  Elton to bench with 20 minutes game time at least.  Steyn to the stands.</p>
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		<title>By: willievz</title>
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		<dc:creator>willievz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is everyone so keen for Taute to play 15?  He can&#039;t even make that position at the Lions his own.

I simply do not see the fuss about him.

I would pick JDJ at 12, move JDV to 13 and keep Zane at 15.  

Next year I would like to see A.Coetzee play 15 for the Boks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everyone so keen for Taute to play 15?  He can&#8217;t even make that position at the Lions his own.</p>
<p>I simply do not see the fuss about him.</p>
<p>I would pick JDJ at 12, move JDV to 13 and keep Zane at 15.  </p>
<p>Next year I would like to see A.Coetzee play 15 for the Boks.</p>
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		<title>By: williebre</title>
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		<dc:creator>williebre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BWAHAHA...sorry - Adriaan.. that ugly mug of his gives me nightmares..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BWAHAHA&#8230;sorry &#8211; Adriaan.. that ugly mug of his gives me nightmares..</p>
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		<title>By: jacoshark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271436</link>
		<dc:creator>jacoshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271433&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;williebre-32&lt;/a&gt;: 
richardt strauss plays for ireland?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271433" rel="nofollow">williebre-32</a>:<br />
richardt strauss plays for ireland?</p>
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		<title>By: williebre</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271433</link>
		<dc:creator>williebre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[15. Jaco Taute
14. JP Petersen
13. Juan de Jongh
12. Jean de Villiers (C)
11. Francois Hougaard
10. Patrick Lambie
9. Ruan Pienaar
8. Duane Vermeleun
7. Marcel Coetzee
6. Francois Louw
5. Juandre Kruger
4. Eben Etzebeth
3. Pat Cilliers
2. Richard Strauss
1. Gurthro Steenkamp (he is not injured)

16. Schalk Brits
17. Heinke vd Merwe
18. Jannie du Plessis
19. Arno Botha - Loose trio cover
20. Willem Alberts - Loose trio/lock cover
21. Morne Steyn - 10/12 Cover
22. Zane Kirchner 15/13 Cover
23. Raymond Rhule 11/13 Cover]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15. Jaco Taute<br />
14. JP Petersen<br />
13. Juan de Jongh<br />
12. Jean de Villiers (C)<br />
11. Francois Hougaard<br />
10. Patrick Lambie<br />
9. Ruan Pienaar<br />
8. Duane Vermeleun<br />
7. Marcel Coetzee<br />
6. Francois Louw<br />
5. Juandre Kruger<br />
4. Eben Etzebeth<br />
3. Pat Cilliers<br />
2. Richard Strauss<br />
1. Gurthro Steenkamp (he is not injured)</p>
<p>16. Schalk Brits<br />
17. Heinke vd Merwe<br />
18. Jannie du Plessis<br />
19. Arno Botha &#8211; Loose trio cover<br />
20. Willem Alberts &#8211; Loose trio/lock cover<br />
21. Morne Steyn &#8211; 10/12 Cover<br />
22. Zane Kirchner 15/13 Cover<br />
23. Raymond Rhule 11/13 Cover</p>
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		<title>By: jacoshark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271430</link>
		<dc:creator>jacoshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271418&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-30&lt;/a&gt;: 
MS might have all the world records in the world but his winning percentage is poor- 16 from 31...

lambie has been the best 10 in the country and has deserved his chance since 2010 already, 
hes waited long enough]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271418" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-30</a>:<br />
MS might have all the world records in the world but his winning percentage is poor- 16 from 31&#8230;</p>
<p>lambie has been the best 10 in the country and has deserved his chance since 2010 already,<br />
hes waited long enough</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271418</link>
		<dc:creator>i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271397&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jacoshark-27&lt;/a&gt;: 
yes, but in doing so morne set and still holds a number of world records for points kicked and scored against all opposition, including nz.

lambie has been in the setup for a long enough time to have made his impact, but he has not. we only have these three tests to find things out and test these players.
next year is the real deal so no excuses or experiments.

if not now, then never..?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271397" rel="nofollow">jacoshark-27</a>:<br />
yes, but in doing so morne set and still holds a number of world records for points kicked and scored against all opposition, including nz.</p>
<p>lambie has been in the setup for a long enough time to have made his impact, but he has not. we only have these three tests to find things out and test these players.<br />
next year is the real deal so no excuses or experiments.</p>
<p>if not now, then never..?</p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271412</link>
		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woody Guthro is injured.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody Guthro is injured.</p>
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		<title>By: bdewet</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271406</link>
		<dc:creator>bdewet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beast is coming home, so Gurthro should start!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beast is coming home, so Gurthro should start!</p>
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		<title>By: jacoshark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271397</link>
		<dc:creator>jacoshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271344&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-23&lt;/a&gt;: 
your boy morne steyn got 30+ test in a row at 10
lambie gets his first start at 10, now you want him out again

i think its time we settle on lambie
jantjies offers nothing more than lambie
lambie is better on defence, a BMT player and is even a more accurate place-kicker under pressure

this shouldnt even be a debate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271344" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-23</a>:<br />
your boy morne steyn got 30+ test in a row at 10<br />
lambie gets his first start at 10, now you want him out again</p>
<p>i think its time we settle on lambie<br />
jantjies offers nothing more than lambie<br />
lambie is better on defence, a BMT player and is even a more accurate place-kicker under pressure</p>
<p>this shouldnt even be a debate</p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271384</link>
		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the 80/20 Rhule should apply. Of the 80 minutes Rhule should get to play 20.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the 80/20 Rhule should apply. Of the 80 minutes Rhule should get to play 20.</p>
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		<title>By: skopdiekan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/12/meyer-must-avoid-mass-changes/#comment-2271375</link>
		<dc:creator>skopdiekan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[15. Taute
14. JP
13. JdV
12. de Jong
11. Mapoe
10. Jantjies
9. Hougaard
8. Vermeelen
7. Coetsee
6. Flouw
5. Etsebeth
4. Alberts
3. Cilliers
2. Brits
1. Heinke  

CJ, Chili, Steenkamp, Vd Merwe, Botha, Pienaar, Lambie, Rhule]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15. Taute<br />
14. JP<br />
13. JdV<br />
12. de Jong<br />
11. Mapoe<br />
10. Jantjies<br />
9. Hougaard<br />
8. Vermeelen<br />
7. Coetsee<br />
6. Flouw<br />
5. Etsebeth<br />
4. Alberts<br />
3. Cilliers<br />
2. Brits<br />
1. Heinke  </p>
<p>CJ, Chili, Steenkamp, Vd Merwe, Botha, Pienaar, Lambie, Rhule</p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with idea of moving Taute to 15 and de Jong to 13. I would also prefer to see Coetzee replace Alberts, Elton replace Morne and bring Raymond onto the bench.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with idea of moving Taute to 15 and de Jong to 13. I would also prefer to see Coetzee replace Alberts, Elton replace Morne and bring Raymond onto the bench.</p>
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		<title>By: i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</title>
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		<dc:creator>i_love_u_bakkiesbotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2271221&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jacoshark-18&lt;/a&gt;: 
first of all i would hardly think this is a poor scotland team and secondly i think we stand to gain more by testing them both under pressure of starts. 

this has not been lambie&#039;s first start and to be honest he hasn&#039;t shone in either game. this does not mean he should be dropped but i think it means we need to test the other guy because we clearly have seen what he&#039;s got. 

a compromise would be to have either lambie or janjtes start and the other on the bench against the scots and to choose one of the two to start against eng with morne on the bench as backup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2271221" rel="nofollow">jacoshark-18</a>:<br />
first of all i would hardly think this is a poor scotland team and secondly i think we stand to gain more by testing them both under pressure of starts. </p>
<p>this has not been lambie&#8217;s first start and to be honest he hasn&#8217;t shone in either game. this does not mean he should be dropped but i think it means we need to test the other guy because we clearly have seen what he&#8217;s got. </p>
<p>a compromise would be to have either lambie or janjtes start and the other on the bench against the scots and to choose one of the two to start against eng with morne on the bench as backup.</p>
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		<title>By: mxhosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mxhosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bouts-16:

Rhule will never play centre whilst at the Cheetahs. Mapoe was given one game, struggled a bit on defence, was shifted back to the wing. At the Lions he got an extended run, now he&#039;s bok tourist. If he had remained in Bloem, he would still be a winger.
Therefore, if Rhule wants to play centre, he would have to leave Bloem.

I wonder if Paul Jordaan would be playing centre or wing in a HM coached team, given his size...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bouts-16:</p>
<p>Rhule will never play centre whilst at the Cheetahs. Mapoe was given one game, struggled a bit on defence, was shifted back to the wing. At the Lions he got an extended run, now he&#8217;s bok tourist. If he had remained in Bloem, he would still be a winger.<br />
Therefore, if Rhule wants to play centre, he would have to leave Bloem.</p>
<p>I wonder if Paul Jordaan would be playing centre or wing in a HM coached team, given his size&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cook11</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really feel Rhule should get a chance even if it is the last 5/10 minutes of the game. Elton Jantjies should get an opportunity maybe even a start and that Taute can show what he is worth at 15 as he is specialist fullback. Lwazi Mvovo is being incredibly hard done by the Meyer administration as Hougie is not a specialist wing and not playing particularly well. 

They clearly do not trust players of color and this young black crop of players will be incredibly disheartened  by their coaches lack of faith in them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really feel Rhule should get a chance even if it is the last 5/10 minutes of the game. Elton Jantjies should get an opportunity maybe even a start and that Taute can show what he is worth at 15 as he is specialist fullback. Lwazi Mvovo is being incredibly hard done by the Meyer administration as Hougie is not a specialist wing and not playing particularly well. </p>
<p>They clearly do not trust players of color and this young black crop of players will be incredibly disheartened  by their coaches lack of faith in them.</p>
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