De Jongh set for Murrayfield start
13 Nov 2012
RYAN VREDE, in Edinburgh, reports Juan de Jongh is likely to run on against Scotland, while Pat Lambie is expected to be retained at flyhalf.
De Jongh impressed for the Stormers in Super Rugby and recently enjoyed an excellent Currie Cup, scoring in the final. Coach Heyneke Meyer has been reluctant to use him. He is concerned primarily about the player’s size, worrying that this would compromise him in contact situations at Test level.
However, Meyer strongly suggested he sees Scotland as an opportunity to give the 24-year-old game time.
‘We’re a relatively young team and haven’t played together much, we want to keep some continuity. We respect Scotland and won’t just give Test caps away. There won’t be a lot of changes but the one that will probably happen is to see Juan come in. He has been knocking hard on the door and deserves a chance,’ Meyer said.
‘It isn’t definite, I want to speak to some of the [senior] players as well, but he probably will start. We’ll have a rotation policy in that position. Jaco Taute probably had his best Test against Ireland [at outside centre], and we’ll have to see whether we pair Juan and Jaco, who can also play inside centre, and give Jean de Villiers a break. Jean has played with a couple of injuries recently so he needs a rest. Jaco could also play at fullback [replacing Zane Kirchner], but again, I don’t want to make too many changes.’
Meyer is also expected to persist with Lambie at flyhalf after praising his performance at Lansdowne Road in difficult conditions. With the coaching staff in search of quality back-up to the injured Johan Goosen, who’ll reclaim his starting position if he stays fit for the 2013 Test season, Lambie has the inside lane to be that man.
‘I’ll probably stick by Pat,’ Meyer said. ‘It was a difficult start for him because we just didn’t have the ball [in the first half]. The second half was a bit of a catch-up. He did some nice things in possession. He has high standards and so do we, so we’re looking for an improvement. But he showed some good touches and I want to give him some confidence going forward.’
Meyer said there were likely to be changes on the bench, which could see Elton Jantjies replacing Morne Steyn as pivot cover. Elsewhere Gurthro Steenkamp has recovered from a rib injury that kept him out of the weekend’s Test, and will come into the frame to replace Beast Mtawarira, who has been sent home after suffering a recurrence of a heart condition he was treated for earlier this year.
Team doctor Craig Roberts, however, sought to allay fears about Mtawarira’s health and playing future. ‘He has been treated for an irregular heartbeat in hospital in Dublin. This isn’t life threatening or career threatening in any way and he is quite capable of playing with it,’ Roberts said.
‘Heyneke and I had a meeting with him today and made the decision to send him to Cape Town to have a minor procedure done later this week where they try to isolate and eradicate the cells that are causing the irregular rhythm. He had it done earlier this year, but clearly they didn’t get all the cells.
‘Anything can set it off, we don’t actually know precisely what does. I’ve also had quite a few players who’ve had it. Beast has gone into this rhythm a couple of times in the past and we’ve just managed it. I need to make it clear that he could have played this weekend at no risk.’
Meyer added: ‘If it happens again this week we’re back to square one. It worries me and it is at the back of his mind. You want guys out there that are totally focussed. He is also on medication that sometimes slows you down. It is also important for him to be with his family. It was a difficult decision, but the right one we believe.’
Jannie du Plessis picked up an ankle injury in Dublin, but Meyer and Roberts indicated that he was likely to recover. ‘He is looking good. We’ll assess him at training and we are hopeful he will be ready for the weekend.’
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13 Nov 2012, 14:25 pm
@skopdiekan-548:
Love is all you need.
Paul McCartney
13 Nov 2012, 14:25 pm
@Treehugger-547: Good for you!!!!!!! There are always ways and means to beat things like that, and deprive the evilfucks of any satisfaction.
There are also so many ways…..many many many ways to p # ss people off (especially those are guilty of any sort of animal abuse) without ever having to face the music….
The way I see it, you open yourself up to scrutiny and scorn : don’t be fuckedoff or expect any kindness when someone representing the good people decides to make your life a little miserable.
13 Nov 2012, 14:26 pm
hey ……………………………………………where is Puma when you need him.
13 Nov 2012, 14:26 pm
@katman-542: Explains your behaviour on this forum.You are so infatuated with race.Hopefully your son will grow up to be a better person.You need help,bud.
13 Nov 2012, 14:27 pm
@Treehugger-547: You should learn some Maltese sayings. They are more expressive than any English or Afrikaans phrase, and better describe such people, for example
The hair you ruffled on your way out
and things regarding pregnant grandmothers being the mother
13 Nov 2012, 14:27 pm
@nama1-531: howdy nama how are you?
13 Nov 2012, 14:27 pm
@katman-546: I seen you do it with all and sundry you pseudo little racist scum.. anybody who you think you can ‘own’ with your self righteous lordy two shoes traits of white arse superiority you skunk… if it isn’t Nama or transformation or xhosakid or whoever else.. it always happens to be a black dude yet with the outright white racists like Brigadier the punk and the rest of the low life white skinned right wingers.. those you happy clap away with your back slapping white arsed verwoerdian type camaraderie which is your inherent racist ideological lack.. you two faced little piece of white racist trash.
don’t try fool me fckwit.. you pseudo little prick cannot.
got stuff to do.. out.
13 Nov 2012, 14:29 pm
@cane-551: sing it to the choir cane.. sing it to those that need to hear it.. I know where I stand in that respect.. you singing to the wrong fraternity here.. its the self righteous frivolous punks you should be addressing all your peace loving peace making hopeful ire…
13 Nov 2012, 14:30 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-552: I know……..secret is never just make threats, insulting is not doing…..doing is doing and never to be spoken of.
13 Nov 2012, 14:33 pm
@cane-553: Puma needs to be saved from himself.His love for a fellow man makes for very uncomfortable reading material.Seriously.
13 Nov 2012, 14:34 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-537: saw it happen many times.
cheetah actually overheat after a chase so they have to cool down before they can feed.
@papaown-549: ag i didnt demonize anyone man, seriously.
i just dont think mantashe knows anything about rugby or coaching and therefore you asking me if he said anything incorrect is laughable buddy.
it simply isnt worth the effort of a rebuttal for me.
13 Nov 2012, 14:35 pm
Ok, after a full morning of watching Skop and Katman tear out bits of each other, can anyone tell me why they are fighting? There must be a specific reason?
Anyone?
13 Nov 2012, 14:36 pm
@mikeybrass-555: nope I keep it short and sweet and have a naturally disdainful attitude and tone that takes those that don’t know me by surprise and makes them really angry (love it). They always think bimbo so already you have the upper hand.
13 Nov 2012, 14:36 pm
@skopdiekan-557: so brigadier is a low life white skinned right winger?
you are hilarious, keep it up clown.
13 Nov 2012, 14:36 pm
@The Rangerman-561: Well the hyenatjies hijack was the sweetest bit of thievery I have ever seen….
13 Nov 2012, 14:38 pm
@The Rangerman-561: I understand they are looking for rangers to fight the rhino poaching problem.Not interest ?Probably far more exciting than spearing squirrels
13 Nov 2012, 14:39 pm
@wnbb-554: So I’m not allowed to point out what a massive pillock you are for fear of it being construed as racist? Pull the other one, mofo.
@skopdiekan-557: Same goes for Nama and Xhosakid. I just don’t like them – got fokkol to do with them being black. And leave Transie out of this as he and I actually get along pretty damn well (although that probably fcks with your theory).
13 Nov 2012, 14:40 pm
Nothing is more majestic than a male leopard under a full moon.
13 Nov 2012, 14:44 pm
@cane-540:
We really need a balance between the ‘anything goes’ attitude on Keo and the ‘Say one thing bad about the All Blacks and we’ll ban you’ attitude on theSilverfern.
13 Nov 2012, 14:45 pm
@WP-Forever-568: A female in leopard skin under the full moon.
Just kidding.
13 Nov 2012, 14:47 pm
@katman-567: I don’t give a fck what you think of me ,but you surely got an unnatural fascination with race.What a farking pity you are corrupting young minds.I guess it’s your democratic right to turn your young one into a ‘ mini-me’version of yourself ,so,I’ll leave it at that.
13 Nov 2012, 14:51 pm
Keo.co.za should make everyone log in with their Facebook accounts.
I can garrantee it would sort out this ‘big man behind a nickname’ attitude.
13 Nov 2012, 14:52 pm
@londonshark-572: A person can have up to 500 fake Facebook accounts as well……
13 Nov 2012, 14:54 pm
@londonshark-572:
Lots of duplicate accounts on facebook too, however…just look at News24′s comments section.
13 Nov 2012, 14:55 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-573: Facebook reckons that they’ve got at least over 80 million fake accounts.Looking at News24, I am not surprised .
13 Nov 2012, 14:56 pm
@WP-Forever-574:
True story. But it would help a bit I reckon.
That News24 comments section is the pit of humanity. Shocking stuff on there.
13 Nov 2012, 14:57 pm
As of today 549 Rhinos…poached this year…..they must do like Kenya and all poachers are shot on site, have a friend there that heads up a task team of 160 specially trained rangers…..its like serious army training. He showed us footage when he was here. Their problem is the killing of elephants for tusks, very big there.
13 Nov 2012, 14:58 pm
@wnbb-575:
The only thing on News24 I find slightly amusing is the constant battle between religous people and atheists. They go batsh*t crazy at each other.
13 Nov 2012, 15:00 pm
@Treehugger-577: Agree with you …. and that is probably a first for me,tannie.
13 Nov 2012, 15:00 pm
@wnbb-566: mate it may come to that.
but force will not solve this problem imo.
@WP-Forever-568: awesome sight indeed.
13 Nov 2012, 15:01 pm
@Treehugger-577:
I just can’t believe that in the age of the Ipad people still believe that rhino horns have medicinal properties.
Not to mention that fellow the other day who was walking around with his kids junk in his wallet because he thought it gave him some sort of power.
The time has come for the world to realize that some ‘cultures’ are just plain wrong and have no place in the modern world.
13 Nov 2012, 15:03 pm
@The Rangerman-580:Might not ,but force might just give these buggers something to think about.They should realise that if they play with fire then they are going to get burned.
13 Nov 2012, 15:06 pm
@wnbb-582:
Agreed.
13 Nov 2012, 15:07 pm
@londonshark-578: i always find rabid atheists just as amusing as rabid religious nuts because when you get down to the nuts and bolts both of them BELIEVE in something they can never prove
13 Nov 2012, 15:07 pm
@wnbb-575: Indeed. If it can be registered online, it can be faked – the end
Ask me….I do quite a bit of consult work for online ‘chat and social networking sites.’ assisting them with flagging the ‘dodgy folk’, online scams, religious nutters, the depraved, the criminal, the scammers/fraudsters, the socios, the ‘zealots’ and those who are outrightfuckedinthenoggin.
It’s a jungle out there.
@londonshark-578: Very amusing.
@Treehugger-577: Yup – shoot to kill.
13 Nov 2012, 15:09 pm
@wnbb-582: ja its defo a part of the solution dont get me wrong.
a nice little 5.562mm round to the head of a few of these savages will send out a message but sadly the reality is that due to the riches on offer there will always be some f ukker next in line.
13 Nov 2012, 15:10 pm
@The Rangerman-584:
Ja, I never get why atheists and religious people care what the other believes in (or deosn’t believe in).
I mean who cares.
13 Nov 2012, 15:11 pm
@Treehugger-577:
I know of a few ex-military guys who worked on anti-poaching up north…quite a few came back extremely disillusioned due to the massive level of government complicitness and corruption taking place.
I think they need to apply a policy they summed up in the police training modules as follows: “Skiet hom in die been…die kopbeen.”
13 Nov 2012, 15:13 pm
Can anybody tell me why it is actually legal to apply to hunt rhino??
Why is it even an option?
13 Nov 2012, 15:16 pm
@Treehugger-577:
saw a similar doccie on indian rhinos in Assam state/province and how the government made it legally permissible for their rangers and forest guards to shoot hunters/poachers on sight and not have to face any charges if doing so.
the policy was so successful it was adopted at a number of other reserves/sanctuaries/national parks in india.
13 Nov 2012, 15:16 pm
@londonshark-587: Who cares? The religious folk and the atheists care
13 Nov 2012, 15:16 pm
@wnbb-579: aaah you learning well my child
13 Nov 2012, 15:16 pm
@The Rangerman-586:
I’d much prefer a 7.62mm NATO round (preferably fired from a R1 rifle) than a .223.
13 Nov 2012, 15:19 pm
@WP-Forever-588:
@londonshark-587: they are both terrified of being wrong haha.
@londonshark-589: its an option because in south africa until recently it was felt that rhino numbers had reached a point where they could begin to be sustainably harvested through hunting thereby bringing in huge cash injections into conservation.
remember that this cash is a big incentive to game farmers to stock and protect rhino massively increasing their range and hopefully numbers as carrying capacities had been reached in many game reserves and national parks.
13 Nov 2012, 15:21 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-590: ja but the indian rhino is basically a vestige population that is likely to be overcome very soon, same with indian lions and even tigers.
hope i am wrong.
i believe those indian rhinos are just as agressive as our black rhinos (ooh look, i am a rhino racist!)
13 Nov 2012, 15:21 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-590:
Just look at what Khama did in Botswana.
Shoot to kill, no tolerance.
Eradicated their poaching problem in a few years.
13 Nov 2012, 15:22 pm
@WP-Forever-593: fair enough, either will do imo.
13 Nov 2012, 15:23 pm
@The Rangerman-594:
Oh okay. Makes sense.
But surely the goverment should stop/ban all permits until the numbers are back to where they should be. And even then, there are some animals you should never hunt.
But ja, it’s all about the bucks at the end of the day.
13 Nov 2012, 15:23 pm
@The Rangerman-595:
They’re listed as Vulnerable, with about 3,000 left in the wild.
13 Nov 2012, 15:24 pm
@The Rangerman-595:
Rhino racist….hahahahahaha.
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