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		<title>By: J.B. Cowper</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2276817</link>
		<dc:creator>J.B. Cowper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2276331&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils-65&lt;/a&gt;: 
@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2276332&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils-66&lt;/a&gt;: 

Heck mate - who knows - not even sure God does.  In a way those stats you quote affirm their enigmatism - is it Wales or Ireland (or both) who have similar stats against the AB&#039;s - yet you&#039;d never expext them to win - and if they ever did, it would be a one-off.  Even at peak they have a ceiling (1970&#039;s Welsh side excepted).

But the Frogs - you might not want to remember &#039;99 but only 3 months prior to that they lost 54-7 to NZ.

The thing is they have more bandwidth than anyone else - I think we can all agree on that.

Good chatting with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2276331" rel="nofollow">Nils-65</a>:<br />
@<a href="#comment-2276332" rel="nofollow">Nils-66</a>: </p>
<p>Heck mate &#8211; who knows &#8211; not even sure God does.  In a way those stats you quote affirm their enigmatism &#8211; is it Wales or Ireland (or both) who have similar stats against the AB&#8217;s &#8211; yet you&#8217;d never expext them to win &#8211; and if they ever did, it would be a one-off.  Even at peak they have a ceiling (1970&#8242;s Welsh side excepted).</p>
<p>But the Frogs &#8211; you might not want to remember &#8217;99 but only 3 months prior to that they lost 54-7 to NZ.</p>
<p>The thing is they have more bandwidth than anyone else &#8211; I think we can all agree on that.</p>
<p>Good chatting with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2276438</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2276434&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whatever-67&lt;/a&gt;: 
And what makes you think that?
Is it because they beat Ozzie and Argentina?
We beat them as well.
Or are you going on the Ireland game where France drew with them and we beat Ireland in 3 tests and one was an absolute hammering of 60-0.
See now i honestly dont know how you can say they would beat us, all i know is i would always back the ABs to beat anyone. Lets face it, if you were a gambler and never back the ABs you would be a broke man.
Out of the last 15 games they have beat us twice and drew once.
They have played awesome rugby in those years as well so them beating NZ is not a given as you think it is.
And what has Joubert got to do with anything?
Are you saying a South African ref is dodgy?
So you are complaining about South African refs now......is there any ref safe from the South African supporters whinge club?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2276434" rel="nofollow">whatever-67</a>:<br />
And what makes you think that?<br />
Is it because they beat Ozzie and Argentina?<br />
We beat them as well.<br />
Or are you going on the Ireland game where France drew with them and we beat Ireland in 3 tests and one was an absolute hammering of 60-0.<br />
See now i honestly dont know how you can say they would beat us, all i know is i would always back the ABs to beat anyone. Lets face it, if you were a gambler and never back the ABs you would be a broke man.<br />
Out of the last 15 games they have beat us twice and drew once.<br />
They have played awesome rugby in those years as well so them beating NZ is not a given as you think it is.<br />
And what has Joubert got to do with anything?<br />
Are you saying a South African ref is dodgy?<br />
So you are complaining about South African refs now&#8230;&#8230;is there any ref safe from the South African supporters whinge club?</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2276437</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2276434&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whatever-67&lt;/a&gt;: What makes you think the opposition would allow them to play like that? ;) I recall Frenchies come out with all guns blazing in their home games in 04, 06, 09 and 10 - always starting with a bang and allo those games ended in tears and boos long before the final whistle. Why it would be any different this time - as that outcome happens more frequently than them smashing the opposition in style like this month.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2276434" rel="nofollow">whatever-67</a>: What makes you think the opposition would allow them to play like that? <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I recall Frenchies come out with all guns blazing in their home games in 04, 06, 09 and 10 &#8211; always starting with a bang and allo those games ended in tears and boos long before the final whistle. Why it would be any different this time &#8211; as that outcome happens more frequently than them smashing the opposition in style like this month.</p>
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		<title>By: whatever</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275830&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hurricane-18&lt;/a&gt;: 

Frogs would klap the AB&#039;s the way they playing on condition Joubert is not the ref

French v Samoa should be a good smash fest this weekend!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275830" rel="nofollow">Hurricane-18</a>: </p>
<p>Frogs would klap the AB&#8217;s the way they playing on condition Joubert is not the ref</p>
<p>French v Samoa should be a good smash fest this weekend!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2276198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;J.B. Cowper-63&lt;/a&gt;: I sincerely hope, their latest games are signs of great positive things to come from France. They have the necessary class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2276198" rel="nofollow">J.B. Cowper-63</a>: I sincerely hope, their latest games are signs of great positive things to come from France. They have the necessary class.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2276198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;J.B. Cowper-63&lt;/a&gt;: Of course, they are awesome, when &#039;come to play&#039;. The problem is - how we can define when that happens? When they play and win impressively? Or when? Because then any other game (and any loss) can be easily written off, say - whatever, they just did not come to play.

Since that game 12 years ago those performances have been - let&#039;s say honestly - a quite rare occasion. And, IMHO, it has more to do with the quality of opposition than French themselves deciding whether come or not to play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2276198" rel="nofollow">J.B. Cowper-63</a>: Of course, they are awesome, when &#8216;come to play&#8217;. The problem is &#8211; how we can define when that happens? When they play and win impressively? Or when? Because then any other game (and any loss) can be easily written off, say &#8211; whatever, they just did not come to play.</p>
<p>Since that game 12 years ago those performances have been &#8211; let&#8217;s say honestly &#8211; a quite rare occasion. And, IMHO, it has more to do with the quality of opposition than French themselves deciding whether come or not to play.</p>
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		<title>By: J.B. Cowper</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2276201</link>
		<dc:creator>J.B. Cowper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275863&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nortierd-44&lt;/a&gt;: 

Noticed that as well - sort of says it all, doesn&#039;t it?

Although I would imagine AB&#039;s would also play on because they are ruthless to the last second.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275863" rel="nofollow">nortierd-44</a>: </p>
<p>Noticed that as well &#8211; sort of says it all, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Although I would imagine AB&#8217;s would also play on because they are ruthless to the last second.</p>
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		<title>By: J.B. Cowper</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.B. Cowper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275844&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils-28&lt;/a&gt;: 

In 2001 (I think, or thereabouts) in the heyday Olivier Magne they put +40 points past the All Blacks in Marseilles for the win (only one of 4 occasions anyone has done that) and if you tell Buck Shelford France is a pushover he might just clock you ... whisper in his ear &quot;Remember Nantes&quot; and he definitely will clock you.

As any genuine All Black player will tell you they are massive &quot;when they come to play&quot; - you just don&#039;t know when that it is; everyone agrees that when it actually happens it&#039;s the best there is and the definitely the most attractive to watch.  And that is the prime reason enigmatic les Bleurs fascinate - and if you don&#039;t get it, I can&#039;t explain it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275844" rel="nofollow">Nils-28</a>: </p>
<p>In 2001 (I think, or thereabouts) in the heyday Olivier Magne they put +40 points past the All Blacks in Marseilles for the win (only one of 4 occasions anyone has done that) and if you tell Buck Shelford France is a pushover he might just clock you &#8230; whisper in his ear &#8220;Remember Nantes&#8221; and he definitely will clock you.</p>
<p>As any genuine All Black player will tell you they are massive &#8220;when they come to play&#8221; &#8211; you just don&#8217;t know when that it is; everyone agrees that when it actually happens it&#8217;s the best there is and the definitely the most attractive to watch.  And that is the prime reason enigmatic les Bleurs fascinate &#8211; and if you don&#8217;t get it, I can&#8217;t explain it.</p>
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		<title>By: J.B. Cowper</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2276164</link>
		<dc:creator>J.B. Cowper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On current form France would comfortably beat the Boks and have the edge on the All Blacks - fantastic for the game because they play the most exciting rugby.  It&#039;s not only about winning - the game has a soul.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On current form France would comfortably beat the Boks and have the edge on the All Blacks &#8211; fantastic for the game because they play the most exciting rugby.  It&#8217;s not only about winning &#8211; the game has a soul.</p>
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		<title>By: poppa69</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2275988</link>
		<dc:creator>poppa69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[watched a replay of this game. thoroughly enjoyable.  although the pumas lost, its evident their inclusion in TRC and GHs input has helped take their game to a higher level. 

fast becoming my second favourite team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watched a replay of this game. thoroughly enjoyable.  although the pumas lost, its evident their inclusion in TRC and GHs input has helped take their game to a higher level. </p>
<p>fast becoming my second favourite team.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2275884</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275879&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CoachPete-56&lt;/a&gt;: Then you should lose heavily to them now, simple. On the bad side, then you could get Kiwis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275879" rel="nofollow">CoachPete-56</a>: Then you should lose heavily to them now, simple. On the bad side, then you could get Kiwis.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2275883</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And so for the upcoming WC draw we have clear four leaders ahead of the 2nd pot of teams and only England have remote chance to sneak in. Dogfight between Ireland and Argentina plus desparate Welsh to decide who crashes out to the 3rd pot to - very probably - make way for the Samoans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so for the upcoming WC draw we have clear four leaders ahead of the 2nd pot of teams and only England have remote chance to sneak in. Dogfight between Ireland and Argentina plus desparate Welsh to decide who crashes out to the 3rd pot to &#8211; very probably &#8211; make way for the Samoans.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275874&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CoachPete-54&lt;/a&gt;: 
Trust me.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CoachPete-57&lt;/a&gt;: 
Cheers coach]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275874" rel="nofollow">CoachPete-54</a>:<br />
Trust me.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-2275880" rel="nofollow">CoachPete-57</a>:<br />
Cheers coach</p>
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		<title>By: CoachPete</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoachPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ok out of here   cheers  Kiwis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok out of here   cheers  Kiwis</p>
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		<title>By: CoachPete</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/11/17/france-vs-argentina-2200-ko/#comment-2275879</link>
		<dc:creator>CoachPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 22:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275871&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils-52&lt;/a&gt;: 
Just hope we dont  get England again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275871" rel="nofollow">Nils-52</a>:<br />
Just hope we dont  get England again</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275872&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CoachPete-53&lt;/a&gt;: Indeed they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275872" rel="nofollow">CoachPete-53</a>: Indeed they are.</p>
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		<title>By: CoachPete</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoachPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275870&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hurricane-51&lt;/a&gt;: 
Idk  i was not there  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275870" rel="nofollow">Hurricane-51</a>:<br />
Idk  i was not there  <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CoachPete</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoachPete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275868&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils-49&lt;/a&gt;: 
I said that earlier   yes 
Because France are usually the strongest of european countries]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275868" rel="nofollow">Nils-49</a>:<br />
I said that earlier   yes<br />
Because France are usually the strongest of european countries</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyway, glad to see French playing really well in successive Tests. Unless unthinkable happens vs Samoa, French should have 1st pot of the WC draw in the bag.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, glad to see French playing really well in successive Tests. Unless unthinkable happens vs Samoa, French should have 1st pot of the WC draw in the bag.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 21:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2275858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CoachPete-39&lt;/a&gt;: 
First loss to Tonga, believe it as not friendly in the french changing rooms after the match]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2275858" rel="nofollow">CoachPete-39</a>:<br />
First loss to Tonga, believe it as not friendly in the french changing rooms after the match</p>
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