Samoa sink woeful Welsh

Samoa sink woeful Welsh

17 Nov 2012

Samoa beat Wales 26-19 in Cardiff to make another statement that their 2011 World Cup display was no one-off.

Samoa, with the core of the squad based in Europe, have shown continuity in selection and are finally getting the results.

Samoa and Ospreys scrum-half Kahn Fotuali’i was named man of the match as he constantly threatened the home team defence. Fotuali’i excelled for the Crusaders a few seasons ago and has added greater balance to his game since being based in Wales. The win will be particularly special for him given where he now plays his club rugby.

Wales fielded a very different side to the one beaten 26-12 by Argentina a week ago but if the past two weeks were a test of the squad depth it has shown vulnerability and shortcomings.

Warren Gatland’s influence has also been shown up in his absence. Gatland will take charge of the side for the next two weekends when Wales will field their strongest line-up.

The back to back defeats have asked more questions of the Welsh who disappointed in losing the Test series 3-0 to Australia. The World Cup heroics had many believing Wales could dominate European rugby for the next few seasons and seriously threaten the likes of New Zealand, Australia and South Africa.

But the consistency is not yet there and while individuals showed class, like fullback Leigh Halfpenny, the Welsh as a unit were poor.

The referee Joel Jutge was also shocking but he was not the reason Wales were beaten.

Samoa deserve all credit for a victory that will continue the belief that they can be a top eight team capable of beating a top five team.

Wales edged Samoa when the teams last met at the World Cup in New Zealand, but only five of the Welsh World Cup XV started in Cardiff and Samoa took just 64 seconds to score.

Halfpenny’s boot kept Wales in the game and ensured a 13-10 halftime lead, but the last 20 minutes belonged to the visitors, even though they only sealed victory with two minutes remaining.


40 Comments

  • 1.knormoer: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 00:29 am

    Kind of puts the Argie game into perspective.

  • 2.skopdiekan: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 00:35 am

    The Wales try was a gift 80 meter intercept that had the outside center not made the intercept Samoa had a 3 on one overlap and would have scored in the Wales corner which would have resulted in a score of around 33 – 12 to Samoa.. that was about the extent of their Samoan dominance here.

  • 3.wnbb: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 01:04 am

    Poor Welsh team.Back to the drawing board for them.

  • 4.Slider: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 01:11 am

    The ref wasn’t Jutge, he is now the IRB referee manager. It was Pascal Gauzere.

  • 5.corporal punishment: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 01:41 am

    Southern Hemisphere domination continues. Expect good wins to boks and ab’s tonight, a close win to the argies and the Aussies to salvage a draw.

  • 6.aliboy: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 04:44 am

    Samoa played bloody well. Must have been all those Kiwi players that they poached into their team.

  • 7.KeurboomPark: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 07:53 am

    A great stride for alternative medicine.

  • 8.nortierd: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 08:05 am

    The Welsh are causing havoc with Superbru predictions.

  • 9.grant10: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 08:36 am

    what a great game this was! enjoyed it thorougly, Samoa were magnificent!

  • 10.katman: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 08:51 am

    @Slider-4: Keo doesn’t like it when you get all technical like that. Couldn’t you just let it slide?

  • 11.ufo: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 09:58 am

    congratulations to samoa and their supporters…

    played a great game… and a mightily deserved win…

    but what the heck in happening to wales though…?

  • 12.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 11:06 am

    Samoa came close to beating the Bokke at the last WC, with all their poached NZ players it’s only a matter of time before they beat teams like England and SA regularly.

  • 13.Liewe Luiperd: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 11:11 am

    @NZINCHINA-12: pfffffffffft troll.

  • 14.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 11:15 am

    @Liewe Luiperd-13:
    lol

  • 15.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 11:21 am

    No trolling pal, only a matter of time they gave you a rugby lesson in the second half of your WC game.

  • 16.cane: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 11:24 am

    @Liewe Luiperd-13:

    Were you born with a plastic spoon in your mouth Liewe?

  • 17.cane: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 11:35 am

    Well done Samoa.
    Commiserations to the Welsh.

  • 18.Guns: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 11:55 am

    @NZINCHINA-15:

    Super Troll Delux.

    Too early to be shnarfing “K” China!

    That was a
    Once of RWc. Heat of the moment thing, like how the ref saved ur behinds fr the French in that second half I ur Final! Come now we all saw it!! :D
    (Not saying u did not deserve the cup though)

  • 19.NZINCHINA: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 12:22 pm

    Samoa poaches Nz players and good on them, as a result I would expect to see them at no2 in the rankings at some stage in the future. Guns I am not a horse.

  • 20.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:07 pm

    Well done NZ C..

    great result…. Gatland to return as coach for their final two games should see a marked improvement in Wales performance.. wont be enough imo to stop them losing all 4 AI’s though..

  • 21.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:19 pm

    @aliboy-6:
    Bet “The Times” will not rub a story about the Samoans raping the Pacific Islands! RACIST TWEETS!!

  • 22.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:20 pm

    @NZINCHINA-12:
    But for Barnes they would have won in 2007!

  • 23.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:22 pm

    RWC Lottery 2011

    Players born in other countries

    Argentina: All born in Argentina

    Australia: Dan Vickerman (Cape Town, South Africa), Radike Samo (Nadi, Fiji), Will Genia (Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea), Stephen Moore (Khamis, Saudi Arabia), David Pocock (Messina, South Africa), Quade Cooper (Auckland, New Zealand), Digby Ioane (Wellington, New Zealand)

    Canada: Nanyak Dala (Jos, Nigeria), DTH (Daniel Tailliferre Hauman) van der Merwe (Worcester, South Africa), Jeremy Kyne (Wellington, New Zealand), Jamie Mackenzie (Troon, Scotland), James Pritchard (Parkes, Australia)

    England: Joe Simpson (Sydney, Australia), Delon Armitage (San Fernando, Trinidad & Tobago), Alex Corbisiero (New York, USA), Matt Stevens (Durban, South Africa), Dylan Hartley (Rotorua, New Zealand), Simon Shaw (Nairobi, Kenya), Shontayne Hape (Auckland, New Zealand), Manu Tuilagi (Moto’otua, Samoa)

    Fiji: Nicky Little (Tokoroa, New Zealand), Campese Ma’afu (Sydney, Australia), Deacon Manu (New Plymouth, New Zealand), Vitori Tomu Buatava (Melbourne, Australia), Michael Tagicakibau (Auckland, New Zealand)

    France: Thierry Dusautoir (Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire), Fulgence Ouedraogo (Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso)

    Georgia: All Georgian-born.

    Ireland: Ronan O’Gara (San Diego, USA), Isaac Boss (Tokoroa, New Zealand), Jamie Heaslip (Tiberias, Israel), Tom Court (Brisbane, Australia)

    Italy: Carlo Del Fava (Umtata, South Africa), Corniel van Zyl (Nelspruit, South Africa), Quintin Geldenhuys (Klerksdorp, South Africa), Martin Castrogiovanni (Paraná, Argentina), Pablo Canavosio (Córdoba, Argentina), Luciano Orquera (Córdoba, Argentina), Gonzalo Garcia (Mendoza, Argentina), Robert Barbieri (Toronto, Canada), Sergio Parisse (Mar del Plata, Argentina), Gonzalo Canale (Córdoba, Argentina), Luke McLean (Townsville, Australia)

    Japan: Luke Thompson (Christchurch, New Zealand), Michael Leitch (Burwood, New Zealand), Ryukoliniasi Holani (Nuku’alofa, Tonga), Shaun Webb (Blenheim, New Zealand), Justin Ives (Mosgiel, New Zealand), Sione Talikavili Vatuvei (Nuku’alofa, Tonga), James Arlidge (Hamilton, New Zealand), Murray Williams (Lower Hutt, New Zealand), Ryan Nicholas (Broken Hill, Australia), Alisi Tupuailai (Manunu, Samoa)

    Namibia: Jacques Nieuwenhuis (Brakpan, South Africa), Piet van Zyl (Worcester, South Africa), Danie Dames (Pretoria, South Africa), Chrysander Botha (Walvis Bay, South Africa), Conrad Marais (Walvis Bay, South Africa)

    NB At the time of their birth Walvis Bay was South African territory.

    New Zealand: Mils Muliaina (Salelesi, Samoa), Ben Franks (Frankston, Australia), Jerome Kaino (Tutuila, Samoa), Isaia Toeava (Moto’otua, Samoa)

    Romania: All Romania born.

    Russia: Adam Byrnes (Sydney, Australia), Vyacheslav Grachev (Tashkent, Uzbekistan)

    Samoa: Census Johnston (Auckland, New Zealand), Anthony Perenise (Wellington, New Zealand), Olé Avei (Wellington, New Zealand), Daniel Leo (Palmerston North, New Zealand), Kane Thompson (Paraparaumu, New Zealand), Kahn Fotuali’i (Auckland, New Zealand), Jeremy Sua (Wellington, New Zealand), Tusi Pisi (Auckland, New Zealand), Sailosi Tagicakibau (Auckland, New Zealand), James So’oialo (Wellington, New Zealand), Ti’i Paulo (Christchurch, New Zealand), Filipo Lavea Levi (Hamilton, New Zealand), Junior Poluleuligaga (Auckland, New Zealand), Tasesa Lavea (Taihape, New Zealand), Paul Williams (Auckland, New Zealand)

    Scotland: John Barclay (Hong Kong), Nathan Hines (Wagga Wagga, Australia), Dan Parks (Hornsby, Australia), Jim Hamilton (Swindon, England), Ruaridh Jackson (Northampton, England), Max Evans (Torquay, England), Graeme Morrison( Hong Kong)

    South Africa: Tendai Mtawarira (Harare, Zimbabwe)

    Tonga: Tukulua Lokotui (Auckland, New Zealand), Kurt Morath (Takapuna, New Zealand), Alipate Fatafehi (Sigatoka, Fiji), Ephraim Taukafa (Auckland, New Zealand), Joseph Tuineau (Suva, Fiji), Thomas Palu (Wellington, New Zealand), Andrew Ma’ilei (Auckland, New Zealand), William Helu (Otahuhu, New Zealand), Siale Piutau (Auckland, New Zealand)

    USA: Takudzwa Ngwenya (Harare, Zimbabwe), Iñaki Basauri (Monterre, Mexico), JJ Gagiano (Cape Town, South Africa), Matekitonga Moeakiola (Vaini, Tonga), Valenise Malifa (Pago Pago, American Samoa), Hayden Smith (Penrith, Australia), Tai Enosa (Faga’alu, American Samoa), Andrew Suniula (Pago Pago, American Samoa), James Paterson (Christchurch, New Zealand), Tim Usasz (Brisbane, Australia), Junior Sifa (Faga’alu, American Samoa), Roland Suniula (Pago Pago, American Samoa)

    Wales: Luke Charteris (Camborne, England), Danny Lydiate (Salford, England), Toby Faletau (Tofoa, Tonga), Jonathan Davies (Solihull, England), George North (King’s Lynn, England)

    Importers and Exporters

    Importers

    15: Samoa (all from New Zealand)
    12: USA
    11: Italy
    10: Japan
    9: Tonga
    8: England
    7: Australia, Scotland
    5: Canada, Fiji, Namibia, Wales
    4: Ireland, New Zealand
    2: France, Russia
    1: South Africa
    0: Argentina, Georgia, Romania

    Exporters

    38: New Zealand
    13: Australia, South Africa
    6: Argentina, England
    5: American Samoa, Samoa
    4: Tonga
    3: Fiji
    2: Hong Kong, USA, Zimbabwe
    1: Burkina Faso, Canada, Cote d’Ivoire, Israel, Kenya, Mexico, Scotland, Uzbekistan
    0: France, Georgia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Namibia, Romania, Russia, Wales

    New Zealand export by far the most. 15 New Zealand-born players play for Samoa. Three Samoan- born players play for New Zealand.

    The three SANZAR countries export more than all the other countries combined.

  • 24.cane: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:25 pm

    @AiDoc-23:

    What a little gem of a post Aidoc.

    ;)

  • 25.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:27 pm

    It really distresses me that Wales lost!!! Samoa won you Bleatingish morons!!!

  • 26.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:28 pm

    @cane-24:
    xie xie ni!

  • 27.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:30 pm

    must offer condolences to the family of Maleli Kunivore, fijian rugby international who passed away at 29 years of age.

    R.I.P

  • 28.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:30 pm

    Sorry , Dui bu qi
    Source rugby365 dot *** its a porn site!!

  • 29.wnbb: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:31 pm

    @NZINCHINA-12: Playing in the Championship with all those former kiwi born players should be their next target. :D

  • 30.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:31 pm

    *** = c not o but u.m

  • 31.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:33 pm

    @wnbb-29:
    If you are in Shaghai You
    Otherwise due

  • 32.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:39 pm

    I think that it is a racist attitude to declare that your team was woeful against the brown eyed guys who only get one twelfth of the votes at the IRB who are BETTER THAN YOU!

  • 33.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:48 pm

    @AiDoc-30:
    Yes I know! com for the leaguies

  • 34.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:54 pm

    Do you know what a get is in the Celtic colonies? It’s a bas tard ‘s bast a rd.. A bit like that Opium pushing moron who is the commentator for the bleatingish and oilyish broadcasts. Knows none of the rules and thinks anything in the superior hemisphere (SH) is a terrorist..

  • 35.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:56 pm

    Jeez Japan is going well against the Georghiuans

    http://www.vipboxsports.eu/rugby/103427/1/georgia-vs-japan-live-stream-online.html

  • 36.AiDoc: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 13:56 pm

    Georgians

  • 37.cane: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 14:08 pm

    @AiDoc-36:

    Put the pipe down Aidoc.

    I think you’ve had enough.

  • 38.katman: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 15:30 pm

    @cane-37: That’s the thing with the pipe. It’s never enough.

  • 39.Delki: Reply to this comment
    17 Nov 2012, 19:04 pm

    @23 Aidoc -Tusi Pisi was born in Apia Samoa, not Auckland.

  • 40.kelefua: Reply to this comment
    20 Nov 2012, 04:24 am

    Great win for Manu Samoa. Good to see them play consistent rugby over the past two years. Got to give credit where it is due though. Ever since Tom Coventry been on board Samoa forward pack has become more formidable in scrum time and set pieces. Add Pat Lam to the coaching staff and you got some good heads there.

    If you look at the overall team there is no real individual brilliance probably for the exception of Kahn Fotuali’i and Taiasina Tuifua (number 8). It was a great team effort that blew Wales off the park in almost every facet of the game.

    Makes for a thriller of a game this weekend against the French.

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