Comments on: Twickers to be viewed in isolation

By: Kaizan

Kaizan — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:08:39 +0000

@Heavens Game

Seeing as you have a policy of supporting the opposition to “teach Heyneke a lesson”, you have been deemed unworthy of my time and I shant be engaging in debate with an embarrassment like you.

When you become a true Bok supporter, then your opinion might count.

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:24:16 +0000

Wasn’t 2009 the year that the Boks played 3N, BI Lions, a comprehensive EOYT against all four home nations, including midweek games against Leicester and Sarries… not to mention a Baa Baa Bok game against the ABs right at the end?

Yet Meyer deems it correct to compare Apples with Pears?

The fool is farken sounding as delusional and illogical as skopdiekant under a full moon…

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:19:10 +0000

Here’s another good one…

“Chris Ashton on par with JP”….

Hee hee hee hee…

Whoooa…

By: Heavens Game

Heavens Game — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:17:13 +0000

@Kaizan-11: I Read the first line of your “magnificent” expertise….

“Dan Coles has the edge over Jannie”…

And then I Lol…

and Lol…

By: tedanica

tedanica — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:39:20 +0000

Stuart Barnes on sky port site :
Hi Stuart, I know you have said that Australia were the weakest SH side but the boks have looked pretty average – they have ground out a couple of wins but surely England will be able to match them in the set pieces and handle the physicality we know is coming – the boks do not have the brains or the flair behind their pack like Australia do.
Peter Kendal

STUART REPLIES: Peter, England can win but don’t underestimate the brains of Ruan Pienaar. Just as Nathan Sharpe had more caps than the entire England pack, the Ulster scrum half has more brain cells than just about all the England backs combined (Alex Goode is an honourable exception but lacks the experience and CV to be compared with RP) and look what happened up front Saturday.

In fact your analysis of South Africa could have been an analysis of England for the last nine years! We are currently a smaller and inferior version of the Springboks and will not win without doing a few things differently; a win is definitely possible but your fair assessment of South Africa reads a little rich coming from an England supporter

By: tedanica

tedanica — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:45:34 +0000

@Daddy-15: ha ha tell that to the English. They'll be more than happy to exchange Youngs for Ruan.

By: Hurricane

Hurricane — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:39:14 +0000

@Tbozknows-12: It is hard to compare backlines when one gets and uses the ball and the other does not do anything with it. You can have all the best individuals in the team you like, but if they do not get the ball or work as a team then you are in trouble.

By: McAwesome

McAwesome — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:32:54 +0000

@Tbozknows-12: think you are underestimating england there sir. Look at your teams performances this year. They havent been great. Maybe its time to admit that some of these players you think are the bees knees are actually average.

By: Daddy

Daddy — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:59:50 +0000

@Tbozknows-12: Would much rather have Youngs over Pienaar as the latter is a liability for us. He had a mare against the scots. Despite a dominant forward showing we still only barely won the game. Sorry but RP is the Morne Steyn of scrumhalves.

By: Kaizan

Kaizan — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:54:53 +0000

@Tbozknows-12:

If someone had asked you before the Scotland game who was better between Pienaar and the replacement scrummie for Scotland, Im guessing your answer would have been Pienaar?…. And look what happened… A lot of people on here (myself included) cite Pienaar’s style of play as one of the reasons our attack is so stunted. He has a good kicking game, but slow to recycle the ball.

Coles is a great scrummager and doesnt give away as many penalties as Jannie.

Barrit is better than Jean on current form.

Taute wont be playing fullback, so no point comparing him to Goode.

No one said Ashton was better than JP. I said they were on par. Dont underestimate Ashton, he is a very decent winger who knows his way to the tryline.

Sharples is very quick and has a deadly sidestep… The difference between him and Hougaard is that on current form, Sharples is scoring tries. Hougaard isnt.

By: nortierd

nortierd — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:19:12 +0000

The English backs showed intent against Australia, had plenty of ball, but their handling was terrible.
Not a sign that they are superior to our backs.
We again play it safe and show no intent, also not necessarily a sign that we are better than them.
I hope they have a similar game against the Boks.

By: Tbozknows

Tbozknows — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:56:29 +0000

@Kaizan-11: I disagree with that consensus.

Youngs is not better than Pienaar.
His defence is not that sound and his kicking is nowhere near on par.
Coles is quality but has not outdone Jannie before. Jannie has has Coles for breakfast at Twickenham before.
Flood is more experienced than Lambie, you can have that.
Barrit is a quality defender, That’s it….. Nothing with ball in hand.
Tuilagi is better than De Jongh and Taute
Taute is as good as Goode.
Ashton is not better than JP..
Sharples is a light-weight who will be bruised by Hougaard.
Kirchner is ****….. I agree with you…

By: Kaizan

Kaizan — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:47:06 +0000

Sorry but we definitely do not “trump England man for man”.

- Dan Coles has the edge over Jannie
- Ben Youngs is better than Pienaar
- Toby Flood more experienced and better than Lambie
- Brad Barrit better than Jean De Villers who is now over the hill
- Manu Tuilagi better than Juan De Jongh and Taute
- Chris Ashton on par with JP
- Charlie Sharples better than Hougaard
- Alex Goode better than Zane Kirchner

We have the edge in the forwards, but they have the edge in the backs.

By: skopdiekan

skopdiekan — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:31:30 +0000

@Tacitus-9: hate is the opposite pole of love indifference.. now that is a dreaded disease.. when springbok supporters start feeling indifferent to what the coach says or does that is when you should start to seriously start worrying.

By: Tacitus

Tacitus — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:23:09 +0000

The haters are out in force.

By: Transformation

Transformation — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:37:48 +0000

@kaksioek-2: meyer is delusional...the 2009 Boks played the B&I Lions and not Stuart Lancaster's newbies! get real!!"

By: kaksioek

kaksioek — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:15:23 +0000

Please leave CJ in the hotel.

By: kaksioek

kaksioek — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:14:39 +0000

The Boks will, in all likelihood, win on Saturday. England were startlingly poor against Australia, dominated by a pack that had been blown away the week before by France. Their forwards are simply too weak to cope with ours.

But this game plan is pathetic and unsustainable.

By: Transformation

Transformation — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:07:50 +0000

no scale of comparison that was ever used on previous Bok coaches fits Meyer’s approval…he had his own yardsticks so quit trying to box him…

By: kaksioek

kaksioek — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:06:46 +0000

Privately Meyer feels fatigue has been central to their second half fades and he stressed the need for his team to sustain through the entire match.

‘We have to put together an 80 minute performance. We’ve only managed that once, against Australia at Loftus,’ he said ‘The main thing is to drop our penalty count. We conceded 17 penalties against Scotland, most of those at scrum time, which is unacceptable. That’s at least 17 minutes that we don’t have the ball. We have to sort that out, so that we can get territory and get on the front foot.

Meyer, your Boks will never manage an 80 minute performance because your game plan dictates that the forwards get all the ball and do all the work, which largely consists of running headlong into opposing players. Occasionally, the scrumhalf or – when things get really crazy and/or Morne Steyn is on the field – the flyhalf is permitted to kick the ball to the opposition. This results in more work for the forwards in the form of tackling the living daylights out of the opposition.