Pietersen boost for Boks
21 Nov 2012
JP Pietersen has been named to start for the Springboks despite having to undergo a late fitness test, while Elton Jantjies has been included on the bench.
Pietersen was initially expected to miss the clash against England at Twickenham, but his groin injury has responded well to treatment, although he will have to prove he is completely recovered on Friday before he is cleared. Prop Gurthro Steenkamp also struggled with a leg ailment at the beginning of the week, but will start.
‘It’s great to be able to field an unchanged team,’ said Bok coach Heyneke Meyer. ‘We’ve been able to show some consistency in selection on this tour and that is a good thing.
‘The players have worked extremely hard on the training field and it wasn’t easy to select the match 23 for each of the three Tests, but I’m happy that we managed to stick to combinations.’
Jantjies is included on the bench for the first time on this tour, replacing Morné Steyn. The injury to reserve prop CJ van der Linde also sees Pat Cilliers promoted to the match 23.
‘The plan was always to give Elton a run on the tour,’ said Meyer. ‘He’s shown earlier in the season that he can play Test rugby. It’s also good for his development as a player to experience the conditions here and to play in front of a big crowd like Twickenham.’
Meyer said the demands of a long season were obvious when looking at the team.
‘It’s been a long season, with most of the guys carrying knocks and not able to train. The challenge is to get up for it mentally first and foremost and then bring the physicality,’ he said.
‘I am worried. I can see that mentally it’s been a long season. Having said that, I know this team and they’re warriors who want to win for their country and the guys next to them.’
The English media has demanded an elevated level of physicality from what they deemed a poor showing in their defeat against Australia. Meyer said he was braced for an immense challenge in that regard.
‘As a South African looking back, I didn’t think England teams were particularly tough. My coaching stint in Leicester, working with guys like Lewis Moody and Martin Corry, who are probably the toughest guys I’ve coached, changed that perception completely,’ he said.
‘Our guys know that they had the edge in South Africa physically because it was at the end of the northern hemisphere season. Now we’re here at the end of ours and they are fresh and we need to toughen up. Maybe in a sense they underestimated the Wallabies, but they will be up for South Africa.’
Springboks – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Gürthro Steenkamp.
Subs: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Heinke van der Merwe, 18 Pat Cilliers, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Elton Jantjies, 22 Jaco Taute, 23 Lwazi Mvovo.
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22 Nov 2012, 00:34 am
Anyway… looks like we’re almost there with regards to team selection.
I hope HM is allowed to appoint new assistant coaches in 2013.
(plus Sheryl Calder)
22 Nov 2012, 00:39 am
@Daddy-248: really? show me the racist part of my post please..
as for running to the “mods” when have I done this? once, when mocking my mothers death 3 weeks after the event, the only time..
I see youve outed yourself as one of keos staff though, trying to ramp up hits huh? heres a thought, employ some journalists and you may see hits increase..
so I cant stick my nose into a conversation on a blog? hahahaha I think someone has too high an opinion of themselves, really your arrogance isnt a good look, but the norm from many saffers so no skin off my brown nose… its funny you mention my “racist” posts, just returning the many Ive had thrown at me, you dont like it, not my prob… perhaps if the “mods” actually did their job, then there would be none of that thrown in either direction… but you saffas only ever complain when us outsiders do it, when your own do it you remain very silent… how ummmn typical huh? so you have “put me in my place”? hayhaha ahhh the supriority gene is strong in this one, shame intelligence made way for it huh?
@McAwesome-249: thanks for your input, but I treat people how they treat me… the many references to me being maori and the associated racial villification attached to it have seen me resond in kind..
now, why dont you fck off and take your tongue out of the back of Daddy’s trousers..
theres a good boy.
22 Nov 2012, 00:42 am
@knormoer-251: and if anyone knows racial comments, its you lot..
please, explain to me the nomenclature that is “coloured”?
22 Nov 2012, 00:55 am
Oh Poppa I had hoped you would have seen the racism in your comment suggesting that skill and heart are traits South Africans do not possess, but sadly, it seems I overestimated your intelligence.
Some sheep just take longer to learn dont they.
Let me take a different tack with you. A more simple approach if you will…
You are a racist bigot who thinks that he can say what he likes about an entire nation and justify his racism by recalling times when he was racially abused by individuals.
This common shortcoming is quite nicely summed up with an expression that it seems you are not yet familiar with…. It goes something like this:
“Two wrongs dont make a right”.
Ask whoevers reading this to you to explain what that expression means and how its applicable.
Until then, good luck with the racism, I hope it works out for you.
22 Nov 2012, 01:03 am
@Daddy-254: yawn…
I see your counter is to deflect, nice..
take a look at the 96 AB backline, aside from Lomu the rest were relatively small..
Marshall, Little, Bunce, Merhtens, Cullen, Jeff Wilson, Ieremia et al were not massive, big players…
your assertion then falls flat..
thems the facts..but jah, stick to your size is everything argument…
22 Nov 2012, 01:04 am
Poppa you dont treat people the way they treat you.
You treat people the way other people treat you.
Just because some was racially abusive towards you in the past doesnt mean you can go around hurling racism at every Saffa you meet.
Grow up.
22 Nov 2012, 01:08 am
@McAwesome-256: where in my posts today have I been racist?
please highlight it… by saying SA players dont have a skillset as good as kiwi players? by highlighting the fact Rathbone needed to be upskilled?
if thats racist then Roberts my Aunts husband..
22 Nov 2012, 01:09 am
Like I said, the debate about Lambie is over.
Ok Poppa, Im bored of you now. Hope you dont mind but Im going to leave you to have this discussion with yourself… Better that way. There wont be such a rift in academic ability.
Enjoy.
22 Nov 2012, 01:10 am
@Daddy-254:
“you would have seen the racism in your comment suggesting that skill and heart are traits South Africans do not possess”
thats racist?????
seriaaaaaaas??????
what a mamparra…eish
22 Nov 2012, 01:12 am
@Daddy-258: has keo given you your assignment today JC?or are you Ryan? Roy perhaps?
see ya later, enjoy… as for academic ab8ility, the fact you found thast line to be “racist” says more about you then it ever can about me..
suggesting SA’s dont have skill is racist????????
bwahahaha comedy gold..
22 Nov 2012, 02:51 am
@Daddy-258: piss off you farking ****.
22 Nov 2012, 03:31 am
@poppa69-260:
Go do your rounds you bluddy agent!
22 Nov 2012, 03:32 am
@poppa69-253:
Typical rasict knut with the generalisations……..faaaak off you dogknotted git!
22 Nov 2012, 03:56 am
whatever
please highlight the racist part of saying SA players have no skills?
seriously, where’s the racist part?
but you can’t help yourself, I post, the red most rises and you ride in trying to save SA
hahaha. you are the dumbest fckwit I’ve ever had the displeasure go conversing with.
have you spent all of your nz dole check for this week, once pondlife scum always pondlife scum.
do us a favour and go fck yourself you girls blouse.
22 Nov 2012, 04:24 am
@Daddy-258:
Your calls of a bigger backline is a joke. So where do players weigh in and get there height taken so they can play for the Boks?
You could have 5 Lomus in your backline but does that mean they will get the ball. Isnt the forward pack suppose to have the big and heavies?
You are correct when it comes to balance in a backline but does not mean Lambiw is too small for a #12.
Lambie would be a great call at # 12. Lambie owns when it comes to defense. I remember when he first played against the ABs at # 10. He was cutting down the big guys, we ran at him all day but he stopped most of our guys. Good kick on him and good defence and a good runner…… sounds like a good #12 to me. FS is wasted there, get him in full back position and tell him to shed some beef as well, he makes Piri look fit.
As for pulling people out as racists, i am trying to find where Poppa was racist in his post? I just can not see it.
22 Nov 2012, 04:28 am
@McAwesome-256:
Sooo where was he racist?
22 Nov 2012, 04:29 am
@poppa69-264:
You have been a racist anti saffa dogknotted knut since day one ou doos…….your generalisations about the Afriks boys has been going on for years……..then when you get owned (as you do by all and sundry) to cry like a girl.
Time for another hissy fit and for you to psss off for good?
22 Nov 2012, 05:07 am
@Hurricane-265:
Read the post again Hurri and don’t be so quick on the trigger. I think you will see that all he is saying that you can have small blokes as well but there should be a mixture as feilding a side of goosen, lambie, jordaan, apalon and Hougaart would probably not work against SBW, nonu, gear and savea? Pretty sound comment I thought…….
22 Nov 2012, 05:19 am
@whatever-268:
Yep i saw that, and i did say he is correct on having balance in the backline.
But that does not say Lambie should not play #12 cos of his size. I have seen Nonu let people through due to being out stepped or out thought…..seriously you do not need a huge #12.
And before UFO jumps on and goes apeshit on me this is my opinion…..
22 Nov 2012, 05:47 am
@Hurricane-269:
Schweeeet
22 Nov 2012, 06:09 am
I see trolls everywhere…
22 Nov 2012, 06:13 am
Pa u think what pops and cane are saying is “south African” is a nationality not a race. Therefore denigrating sourh africans is mot racist.
That is correct. However, it is still not nice to generalise like that. For example, the Bok supporters on this site frequently call kiwis sheep shaggers. This is not nice – not all of us are partial to wooly love
22 Nov 2012, 06:27 am
@whatever-267: only when the Saffas im talking about are utter dropkicks like yourself..
tell me, did you leave SA during apartheid or when the castle walls came crashing down..
to see racism in my earlier post is laughable, seeing ghosts where there are none..
but yeah, are you enjoying the little saffa enclave on the north shore? strange how all the real racists fled the country huh…
22 Nov 2012, 08:40 am
@poppa69-273: Hi Poppa.Hope recuperation going well.Are you at home or in hospital.
Always had a thing for ladies in uniform
except
Prison wardresses
Meter maids
Lesbian nurses.
And that about took everbody out of the equation.
Go well
22 Nov 2012, 10:20 am
What haoppened to the posts on the article ? Looks like I missed feeding time at the zoo ..
Personally I reckon jpp will be lucky to play, dont wish it on him but I reckon saturday am he will withdraw and we may well see mvovo on and Morne into the match 22/23 .. Both fill me with fear.
My concern is also around JdP and Guthro, one tired and the other unfit. Lets hope Guthro doesnt miss xx tackles like he did against Scotland as England are developing a good unit.
Our back are seriously shaded vs England, I hope JdJ steps up against MT as we had FS to take care of him in SA … ahh Mossie where fore art thou !!!????
Watched some Lions tour to SA the other day, JdV is looking well off his play back then, he looks incredibly stiff these days.
Suspect Eng may just pip this one …
22 Nov 2012, 10:40 am
@Daddy-254: Um bud, I would normally be the last to defend Poppa, but I read his post and there wasn’t anything racist about it.
He said SA players in general were usually behind kiwi players when it came to skills. Which is true, for the most part. Our schools rugby places more emphasis on size and power and not enough on skills development…how many SA Super Rugby players do you see who can;t pass both ways, for example?
Even Sarel Pretorius was sidelined this year as the aussie coaches felt he was under-skilled
He does act like a real trolling muppet on here usually, but that wasn’t a racist post.
22 Nov 2012, 12:39 pm
@JL1-245: Thanks man – but what time will the bus arrive? 10am?
22 Nov 2012, 13:04 pm
Right.
This racism stuff is getting out of hand and it is clear there are some very ignorant people on here who, although short of knowledge are not short of an opinion.
Poppa’s comments on this website have been consistently racist and his posts on this thread are no different. Saying that South African players are “bereft of skill” and comments like “a skillset that far outweighs any South African player”… These are comments which generalise a group of people and this is what we call “Racism”.
William Blake said it best when he said “To Generalise is to be an idiot” (Hurricane, take note).
Imagine Poppa made those same comments but about black people… “Black people are bereft of skill”…. That would obviously be deemed racist, so why is it any different to say that about South Africans?… The truth is it’s no different… Racism is racism whether you direct it towards Black people, Canadians, Indians or South Africans.
Now, Corporal Punishment made the point that stereotyping South Africans technically can’t be called racism since ‘South African’ is not a race… Whilst this is true, it is only semantics. Splitting hairs will not save the reputation of a racist. I cannot go and utter defamatory remarks at Canadians and then plead “Not guilty, theyre not technically a race.”…. The principle is the same – “to generalise is to be an idiot” (again Hurricane, take note).
Banter is fine and joking about Saffas being size-obsessed or Kiwis being favoured by the refs is not a problem as far as I’m concerned if it’s done in good spirits. The problem is that Poppa is not one to post these comments in good spirits. He comes on here calling Saffas “Knuckle draggers” and “Neanderthals”. Not to mention the countless nonsense he has posted about South Africa’s history, crime rates etc.
We have racists from South Africa on here too. I have read all kinds of nonsense from Poltergeist saying talking about incest etc… Let me be the first to condemn those comments and anti-kiwi comments like that. BUT those comments do NOT justify Poppa’s racism.
The time to grow up and learn RESPECT is now.
22 Nov 2012, 13:09 pm
@Kaizan-278: Stop whining you p.oof…
22 Nov 2012, 13:13 pm
@Heavens Game-279:
Still bitter about the owning that you were given by me.
And WNBB
And Daddy
And Skop
And The Authority
Shame… I would be angry too.
22 Nov 2012, 13:15 pm
Well said Kaizan.
HG shut up, youre a waste of space.
22 Nov 2012, 13:15 pm
@Daddy-254: You too, you farken p.oof… Poops is a kn.obber extraordinaire… A softcock Emo Iwi, but hellsteeth having a lily white liberal twat pointing fingers and crying “racism” takes the cake for hypocrisy and selfrighteous ego stroking…
FIFO mofo…
22 Nov 2012, 13:17 pm
@Kaizan-280: “owning”… Lol… my oh my, that little ego is rather erect after so much self stroking… Why dont you give it a kiss too…
Farken whining autofellatial poofta…
22 Nov 2012, 13:19 pm
Heavens Game – I actually remember reading some racist ranting from you come to think of it.
Not a big fan of black people are you… Really upset that Obama won as I recall.
Racist bigot.
22 Nov 2012, 13:21 pm
@kaizan-278:
poppa was born in sa, grew up here
22 Nov 2012, 13:22 pm
Youre a one man army HG.
No one likes you on here.
Keep waving that Mitt Romney flag and chanting the anti black slander u always do.
Im not getting involved in debate with a little nothing like you.
See u on another post, where Wnbb and Skop will no doubt be owning you as usual.
22 Nov 2012, 13:24 pm
@Heavens Game-282:
why cant a white person complain about racism?
22 Nov 2012, 13:26 pm
@Daddy-284: Racist ranting? Khombisa, Msunu… Noma donsa… Farken ngulube.
Bona mlungu, what makes you the judge of all things “racism”, especially when it is quite clear you have no idea what you are talking about…
Couldn’t give a flyingfck whether Obama won or not other than his incompetence on the economy ultimately having an effect on my bank balance and bonus on the long tail of cause and effect…
Now wind your farken undergrad pseudo intellect neck in fckface before it gets wound in for you…
22 Nov 2012, 13:29 pm
@Kaizan-278: Ignore the flat track bullies. Forgive them for they know not what they do.
22 Nov 2012, 13:31 pm
@Daddy-286: “No one likes you on here.”… Lol… You are such a softcock… If you think that I post on Keo for acceptance by the assorted brokebacks, getalong gangs, farken fantasists and “kenners” the likes of you and Kaipan… then you are hilariously mistaken…
Now quick… go grow some ballas…
22 Nov 2012, 13:32 pm
Ooooh a threat?
Come on then tough guy, lets see you give me the online beating I deserve.
Pfft clearly Im dealing with an imbecile of the highest order.
You are a racist twat. You have spoken out against Transformation in South African sport, and your rants have often crossed the line into defamatory remarks against black people.
I have no time for racist twats. If you want, feel free to finish this conversation on here with yourself.
Theres a good boy.
22 Nov 2012, 13:35 pm
@mikeybrass-289: Oh bejaysus… The “historian” makes its entrance…
Is there a GetalongGang caucus in progress… a meeting of the Cape MutualMasturbation Society?
Oestrogen in the air….Must be gone… Can all of a sudden feel my breasts growing, my knobshrinking and my voice getting higher pitched by the second…
Saving my manhood… outtahere
22 Nov 2012, 13:37 pm
Another schooling for Heavens Game.
22 Nov 2012, 13:38 pm
@Daddy-291: Listen here idiot… You as a lily white liberal obvious adolescent have no rhyme, reason or leg to stand on by labeling me or any other poster racist?
What gives you that right… Who enables you that judgement?
Now, grow some ballas, stop snivelling and then come back and post like a man…
22 Nov 2012, 13:39 pm
@Kaizan-278: The constant whining about ‘racism’ is so boring, whoever it comes from.
I agree on one point that Poppa is usually pretty quick to cry ‘racism’ too.
Sometimes an insult is an insult. Attaching the race card to EVERYTHING is pretty lame. leave it to the politicians. So he said we’re bereft of skills. So what? Who cares? It’s the opinion of one little blogger sitting 1000′s of miles away.
If people want to play online they really need to harden the f*& up a bit. Obviously there is a line ie: remarks about spouses, kids etc. but jeepers lets not turn into hand-wringing mother grundies either.
22 Nov 2012, 13:42 pm
HG, our conversation is over. You have yet again been schooled.
Run along now. There’s a good boy.
22 Nov 2012, 13:44 pm
@Daddy-296: Wrong… Only HG says when a conversation is over or not…
Consider that Lesson 1, laaitie…
22 Nov 2012, 13:44 pm
Arteides – thats your opinion and Im inclined to agree, but Poppa is always on here talking cr@p about Saffas. Sometimes you just need to put someone in their place. Poppa needed it and he got his medicine.
Heavensgame has just begin his education too.
22 Nov 2012, 13:46 pm
Heavens Game…
Shut up. You are an embarrassment.
22 Nov 2012, 13:48 pm
@Heavens Game-297:
I thought you said you were leaving?
So unless you want to keep getting schooled, pisss off.
Chump.
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