Comments on: Brave Boks edge Twickenham epic

By: brains_trust

brains_trust — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:28:10 +0000

WP are Currie Cup CHAMPIONS !!!! Champions, Champions, Champions !!!!

By: cab

cab — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 18:12:04 +0000

The bulls pack is good but the real strength at present in sa rugby is the stormers with the likes of fourie, etsebeth, vermeulen, kolisi and elstadt – pity they lost louw otherwise they’d prob win it next year.

By: JAWESOME

JAWESOME — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:35:33 +0000

@Tbozknows-186:

And that strength would be:

Greyling
Chilly
Werner
Flip
Juandre
Dewald
Deon
Spies

According to the kenners of SA rugby and this blog…. The weakest pack in the compo?

By: Tbozknows

Tbozknows — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:45:37 +0000

@Liewe Luiperd-181: You have a valid point and the stats don't lie. However, their ability to score tries is purely down to the strength of their pack. Basson probably score the bulk of those tries on a overlap, but the rest would be down to forward drives etc. That does not say anything about the" Morne Steynesk" backline personnel that either kick or crash. We need more flare coming from our players running into space.

By: maximus1

maximus1 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:22:12 +0000

Why was Morne Steyn even on the bench, useless player, why was Elton Jantjies not on the bench earlier? Our wings never see the ball, crash bash it up with the forwards, loss of possession, very predictable from the boks

By: maximus1

maximus1 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:16:27 +0000

Rubbish performance mediocrity is the new bok norm, we should be thumping Scotland, number 12 ranked team in the world, nothing on attack, next year will be the same old rubbish, watching the all blacks play the width of the field, why can’t the boks play like that, they have bacls to do so, was Juan de Jongh even on the field yesterday? Meyer’s selection of Kirchner at fullback spells out the lack of ambition, please make Francois Louw the springbok captain, de Villiers is not the answer.Please get a skills coach to improve the back play, Eddie Jones, Todd Louden, get rid of Ricardo. Loubscher, useless backs coach, coached Tukkies, now Springbok backs coach, what a joke.The All Blacks are so far ahead, if the boks cannot even beat them at altitude in front of 89000 people, who will, this springbok.set up is not striving for improvement. Beating England by 1 point is nothing to brag about, if Heyneke Meyer wants to be the best, then the mindset has too change, injuries are not an excuse anymore, building for the world cup is also a joke, the Boks are not going to win with they way they play now.

By: Liewe Luiperd

Liewe Luiperd — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:12:26 +0000

4 try bonus points

Hurricanes 8
Sharks 7
Bulls 6
Chiefs, Crusaders, Brumbies 5
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Stormers 0

By: Liewe Luiperd

Liewe Luiperd — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:08:59 +0000

Bulls 50 tries
Sharks 47
Cheetahs 35
Lions 30
Stormers 28

By: Liewe Luiperd

Liewe Luiperd — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:08:08 +0000

@Tbozknows-179: TBoz Look I am no Bulls fan but how can you say that when the Bulls scored 50 tries in this year's S15 and the Stormers only 28? Only the Hurricanes scored more tries.

By: Tbozknows

Tbozknows — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:02:30 +0000

@Spiesisworthless1-161: why do SA outsource their attacking backline coaches and get a foreign Antipodean coach. Or Even a French attack coach. These guys will help our game.

By: Tbozknows

Tbozknows — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:00:57 +0000

@Transformation-156: You are so right.. It pains me t see the Bulls pick up the best talent this country has to offer. The Bulls are boring.. Why go there as a back line player.

By: mikeybrass

mikeybrass — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:56:05 +0000

Thoughts on how JPP was used as a first centre on many occasions instead of JdV ?

By: nama1

nama1 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:51:28 +0000

@Liewe Luiperd-172: Partly true. I am on record since last year questioning the "playing without the ball" game plan that AC adopted for WP. I was very critical of it. The success of the Stormers this year did dampen ones criticism of the game plan somewhat, yes.

By: husky

husky — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:48:59 +0000

I don’t know what HM’s got but to keep those 15 battered Boks on the field, defending like demons is special. Sure it was a slugfest between two tentative teams but good one for the Boks. I even enjoyed Mallett’s crowing about the spineless ref. We need him in SARU. He’d sort the crokked Kwee’s out! I’m pleased for the players for sure; Kirchner confounded a few critics. Naas bleating about consulting Andre Watson about the try – yeah right; the oracle for SA refs. Not! Go look at the scoreboard.

For those who sneer at the players – go out and try it yourself on freezing patch of mud in icy rain with 30 000 rabid Pommies baying in the background.

But plenty work to do. Scrums were a mess. Boks had a dominant lineout yet Pienaar and Lambie don’t kick the ball out. Eish!

One moment of particular irritation was when Hougaard and Pienaar broke out with turnover ball and Pienaar kicks a GO from the frst breakdown. Nee man!

By: Liewe Luiperd

Liewe Luiperd — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:42:49 +0000

So Nama did not criticize Toetie but criticizes Meyer for EXACTLY the same thing…..

I wonder what the difference is in Nama’s mind?

Actually, I reckon I have a pretty good idea knowing the way our little Nama thinks….

By: Liewe Luiperd

Liewe Luiperd — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:40:38 +0000

The Stormers scored 28 tries and let in 21.

The Chiefs scored 47 and let in 30.

The Sharks scored 47 and let in 31.

Hell even the Bulls scored 50 yet let in 38.

Nama what’s good for the sauce is good for the goose, no? Never heard you complaining in the S15…..

By: papashanga

papashanga — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:39:29 +0000

Extract from BBC website,referring to England. Is this ‘big is best’ philosophy some kinf of international rugby coaches’ delusion?

66. ron
7 MINUTES AGO
Its high time we got out of selecting only the biggest, most muscled individuals. Perhaps selecting those with skill and intelligence as we used to before “professionalism” might lead at least to a more exciting and fluid formation? The overemphasis on robotic defence simply reinforces the fear of losing as opposed to an attacking philosophy which would foster the belief in winning.

By: Liewe Luiperd

Liewe Luiperd — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:37:52 +0000

@nama1-171: Hang on Nama.

Isn’t that the same plan of your Toetie?

I didn’t see you on here lambasting Toetie during the S15?

Instead you kept saying all that is important is that the Stormers were winning and ugly wins were better than pretty losses (until they got absolutely crunched by the Sharks when it counted).

double standards?

By: nama1

nama1 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:25:41 +0000

It is obvious that in HM’s world rugby is not about scoring tries…it is only about winning.

By: nama1

nama1 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:20:18 +0000

@Hondo-165:
You didn’t see the three tackles that Gurthro made in under two minutes at one stage?

He looked out of puff after that.

What do you make of the fact that we “only” scored 22 tries in the 12 matches that we played this year while 16 tries were scored against us.

Keep in mind that there were quite a few that were not well constructed tries by the Boks. From the top of my head, yesterday’s try by Alberts, last week’s interception by Strauss, the charge down by Fransie against Arg.

There may be more.