Boks among top RWC seeds
25 Nov 2012
New Zealand, South Africa, Australia and France will be the top four seeds for the 2015 World Cup draw on 3 December.
The ratings gap between those sides and the rest are too high for results of the two matches on 1 December (England vs New Zealand and Wales vs Australia) to affect their position as a top seed.
The rankings are being used to rank the 12 directly qualified teams for the World Cup into three bands for the draw with the sides ranked one to four in band one – and crucially avoiding each other until the knockout stage – those five to eight in band two and the remaining four in band three.
England and Ireland are in the second band of seeds for the draw (fifth to eighth in the rankings).
If Wales avoid defeat against Australia, Wales and Samoa will take the other two spots in this second band, with Argentina in the third band. However, if Australia defeat Wales, then Samoa and Argentina will fill these two spots in the second band, with Wales joining Italy, Tonga and Scotland in the third band of seeds.
IRB rankings
1 New Zealand 92.91
2 South Africa 86.94
3 Australia 86.31
4 France 85.07
5 England 81.07
6 Ireland 80.22
7 Wales 78.95
8 Samoa 78.709
9 Argentina 78.708
10 Italy 76.24
11 Tonga 76.10
12 Scotland 75.83
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25 Nov 2012, 22:26 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-84:
Houston, I’ve tried to see things from your extreme perspective in a cordial and congenial manner to the detriment I think of relations with some of my fellow Ab supporters. Now I have come to the brink of my tolerance of your conspiracy theories. The Hore act was stupid and ultimately dangerous and he will be punished. To insinuate and suggest the Abs and their coaches, management have conspired some pre-meditated hit on certain members of the opposition is bullshitt. You harp on about the dirty play, filth this,filthy kiwis that, the monotony has become nauseating and sickening because of the untruths..
25 Nov 2012, 22:27 pm
@Hurricane-100:
did greyling transgress and was he punished?
yes
was there a motive for his behaviour?
yes (macaw as per usual blatantly cheating and being allowed to get away with it)
did macaw milk it for maximum value?
yes
25 Nov 2012, 22:29 pm
@willievz-23: cmon Willie, it was no worse then Geldenhuys on Dalton..
fark me, you guys are so one eyed its not funny,. not condoning Hores actions at all, should be severely reprimanded and I hope he is..
but face it, ear biting, king hits from behind (Bakkies on Cowan), you guys are the masters at this type of thi9ng.. please show me one other team that has had 3 eye-gougers in the line up and all are thought of as legends?
no wonder no one in international rugby likes you guys, such fcken hypocrites..
Bakkies, so if someones cheating thats justification to attack them like greyling did.. ? youre still a complete fckwit…
no wonder SA as a country is in such a rabid state…you blokes are fcked..
25 Nov 2012, 22:30 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-102: was greylings punishment sufficient? no, not at all, he deserved longer than 2 weeks, much like thompson deserved more then 2 weeks..
25 Nov 2012, 22:30 pm
@Te Rangatira-101:
And i hope Hore gets punished big time as well.
We do not need this cowardly act in the ABs environment.
Hansen should punish him,
25 Nov 2012, 22:33 pm
@Te Rangatira-101:
hi TR, i am sorry if i offend you.
it is unfortunate and it hurts to say it but i’m afraid it is overwhelmingly likely to be true. these consistent repeat events and the behaviour of the nz team make it hard to argue otherwise. there is a body of evidence building and building which clearly points to this.
i will concede i should not use the word filthy when describing kiwis as a whole. did i? flip i didn’t even realise i did. for that i apologise.
25 Nov 2012, 22:37 pm
@poppa69-104:
agreed.
perhaps non dangerous cheating should be treated similary too and offenders have a record built up which can see them attract heavy off field sanction for their on field transgressions.
this would help to protect players like macaw from players who target him because they cannot get any help from the ref during the game.
25 Nov 2012, 22:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLXVBEqAxGE
this bloke wore an arm piece to reinforce cheap and dirty shots like this, from the home of thugs..
not even cited
justice 4 byron..
25 Nov 2012, 22:42 pm
@Hurricane-105:
Immediately after the match, won by the All Blacks 21-11, Meyer apologised to All Blacks skipper Richie McCaw, who appeared to be on the receiving end of a forearm smash by Greyling.
Greyling faces the judiciary after he dived at McCaw, who was trapped in a ruck, and appeared to hit him in the face.
The incident came in the 63rd minute, just after the All Blacks had taken a 15-8 lead and were starting to take the ascendancy in a physical, torrid, match between two of rugby’s most passionate rivals.
“I’m very big on discipline and it’s unacceptable,” said Meyer, who before the match had expressed his admiration for McCaw as “one of the best players ever”. “I think it cost us the game as well and I want to apologise to Richie and it will be dealt with inhouse, but it’s unacceptable.
“We’re a team that prides ourselves on discipline and we can’t afford these things in games.” Visiting skipper Jean de Villiers said if Greyling is found guilty he will face internal action as well as any punishment handed down by the rugby judiciary.
“We’ll never condone playing dirty,” De Villiers said.
“Like the coach said, discipline is a non-negotiable for us and definitely if he was in the wrong we’ll take action internally against him.”
25 Nov 2012, 22:42 pm
@Te Rangatira-101: I told you when you first come here bro, they as a whole have nothing but hatred for us…
you told me my approach was wrong, and that youd rather try the nice approach..I did too when I first started here, but Bakkies idiocy is just the tip of the iceberg,n thisd ias the norm and has been for 4 years that Ive been here, and they talk about SA “hospitality”
what a fcken joke..
Hurri, I plead with you not to visit their country, this is how they treat their “partners”..
25 Nov 2012, 22:43 pm
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE TO GET OFF MY CHEST…..
KIWI RUGBY PLAYERS ARE DIRTY FILTHY CHEATS AND WHAT HAPPENED ON SATURDAY IS JUST ANOTHER NOTCH ON THE FILTHY RECORD OVER THE YEARS….MAY HORE GET BANNED FOR LIFE!
25 Nov 2012, 22:46 pm
@Hurricane-105:
there was no standard PR coverup spin line from meyer in regards the greyling incident.
what hanson did and said on tv was in noway indicative of a coach and team management intent on punishing dirty acts by their players.
if anything it sounded like a protctive cover up to me.
remember, not only was greyling punished by the judiciary he was also punished internally and subsequently dropped from the squad.
hasn’t played again for the boks.
25 Nov 2012, 22:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1znXpoxWRs
yep, Ritchie really milked this huh?
though I suppose he deserved it, thats justification for it huh..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AjnmPNOn6g&feature=related a video to note all the SA cheating.. made by someone up north..
25 Nov 2012, 22:51 pm
@Hurricane-105:
to be clear, i dont know if you watched it but the post match response from hanson is the polar opposite to the post match response from meyer wrt the greyling incident.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/video.cfm?c_id=4&gal_objectid=10849865&gallery_id=129439
25 Nov 2012, 22:52 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-112:
Not talking about HM at all.
It is your attitude. McCaw did not deserve what he got, he did not milk it. It was you that called the Citing officer a cheat for even citing Etzebeth. You are the one with the problems. We are all for stopping this sort of rubbish in rugby but you go off in Bakkies world and blame kiwis only.
Mccaw milking it is just another dumba$$ thing you have said
25 Nov 2012, 22:53 pm
there was more intent in greylings cowardly attack then there was in Thiompsons, yet they got the same punishment..
like all Saffas, dirty filthy cheating thugs, bully boys who have to continually attack players from behind
Geldenhuys
Bakkies
Burger
Bismarck
matfield
Etsebeth
all dirty bullies who should be banished from the game for simply being SA..
disgusting scum..
(end bakkies mode)
25 Nov 2012, 22:54 pm
@poppa69-110:
come on pops you’re overeacting a bit.
i apologised for referring to kiwis as filth (did i, i dont remember doing it?) but again, i sincerely apologise.
take the personal stuff out of it and you will have no choice but to admit that nz have a case to answer as far as dirty play and cheating is concerned.
25 Nov 2012, 22:57 pm
Amazing thing is the players get along, will enjoy a beer if and when time allows and if you read their biographies love the Barbarians because that’s when they get to know each other on a more social manner.
The majority respect the opposition , yet the fans can’t get along or show mutual respect.
25 Nov 2012, 22:58 pm
@JL1-111:
Hore will get banned.
But only filth here are people thinking Kiwis are the only ones doing it.
Like you
25 Nov 2012, 22:58 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-117: and SA dont? your holier than thou attitude scvks, and your continual references to us as filthy scum etc is pathetic..
your faux apology is also bullsh!t, because it will continue regardless…as it has previously when youve “apologised”..
you continually take it to this level, while maintaining your own players are saints..
so fck off..
25 Nov 2012, 22:59 pm
@Hurricane-115:
yes but i want to point out to you the difference considering you said hanson should punish him (hore).
he hasn’t quite started off with an approach which will make us all feel comforted that the ab coaching staff/management are intent on punishing this sort of behaviour internally.
25 Nov 2012, 23:00 pm
@poppa69-120:
dont be ridiculous.
my apology is sincere.
25 Nov 2012, 23:01 pm
@nortierd-118:
Getting called filthy scum gets a bit tiring
25 Nov 2012, 23:04 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-121:
Well i think Hansen should do something, times to step up and stop this.
I havnt seen 2 in one year like this from the ABs in a long time.
25 Nov 2012, 23:04 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-122: bullsh!t, seen it before Bakkies…
Ive asked you before not to refer to us like that, seems strange that many hate my generalisations, and get all upset and the like, yet let you generalise unabated without nary a whisper..
so fck them and fck you too..
this is how you want it, this is how it will be..
25 Nov 2012, 23:05 pm
@poppa69-116:
the difference is we are routinely punished and quite serverely too.
are you?
dont answer it because the stats will shock you.
25 Nov 2012, 23:05 pm
@Hurricane-123:
I would also take of offense at that, but there are Bok supporters who actually enjoy watching the All Blacks and respect their players.
Just as I am sure that there are AB fans who respect SA rugby and will continue to do so.
Just bear in mind, this is a blog site and the views expressed are personal and not in any way indicative of all then it’s cool
25 Nov 2012, 23:09 pm
@Hurricane-124:
yes agreed.
would like to see ab management/coaching staff take the lead as opposed to the other way around.
@poppa69-125:
oh for the love of god pops, i am sorry and have apologised.. ok…
i dont even recall saying this, are you sure i have?
i’ll check back just to be sure but am sorry all the same.
25 Nov 2012, 23:13 pm
@nortierd-127:
Totally understand and agree.
Have conversed with many South African fans on here and have learnt a great deal, especially from a South African point of view.
I get the ole go blog on a kiwi site….or what are you doing here this is a south african blog but you dont get insight into the one of our lets say enemies by blogging on a kiwi site.
I enjoy it here.
25 Nov 2012, 23:14 pm
ok, i’ve just checked and the only time i used the word ‘filthy’ is the following post below. i referred to the ab’s as a ‘filthy’ team and not to nz’s in general as filthy people. to be clear, i am not saying all nz’s are filthy people but was saying the nz rugby team is a filthy team.
i will supplement the word filthy with dirty instead.
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25 Nov 2012, 19:08 pm
@ryecatcher-33:
hi Rye,
exactly, they are a filthy team who play a dirty game, without fail.
i have no respect for the more appealing aspects of their game because this is what i judge them on… cheats and all too often dirty cheats too.
the only reason they couldn’t beat us pre-isolation was because we took it to them when tried the ugly stuff and were not afraid to punish them for their behaviour.
i honestly don’t know how they can feel good about themselves when beating us with such pathetic handicaps in the modern era. if the playing fields were level they would be shown up for what they are… fakers…
25 Nov 2012, 23:17 pm
You are one farkin moron,Bakkies.Farkers like you deserve to be mercifully peosklapped.deal with your own Bull pond life scum like Greyling,Werner Kruger etc etc first before you try to sort out other people.
25 Nov 2012, 23:18 pm
the only “fakers” was SA’s record pre-isolation
since the advent of neutral refs, the truth has outed alarmingly..
25 Nov 2012, 23:22 pm
@Hurricane-119: to quite honest SA and the All Blacks play rugby to win and with passion and sometimes players get over zealous in the moment, in my opinion seldom with intent
25 Nov 2012, 23:23 pm
@wnbb-131:
you are so far off base, boet.
25 Nov 2012, 23:24 pm
@wnbb-131: should read mercilessly .
25 Nov 2012, 23:25 pm
@Hurricane-129:
That’s the truth.
Actually the only thing I have against McCaw and NZ at the moment is I ordered his biography almost a month ago and am waiting with baited breath, but I’ll let you guys off the hook and blame our postal service.
Was lucky enough to get Todd Blackadder, Jeff Wilson and Josh Kronfeldt a while ago, still need Michael Jones and Zinzan Brooke then I’m happy.
Met the author of Inga Tuigimala in the week and he promised me a signed copy, so I hope that goes through
25 Nov 2012, 23:26 pm
@JL1-133:
I agree with that fully.
There are times where players have been targetted but on the whole this is a game that is taken seriously from both countries. In the heat of the moment individuals can lose focus which will get them in trouble and with no intent at all
25 Nov 2012, 23:27 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-134: you are a farkin bore you peos.The same sh yt every farkin day!!I hope somebody ,someday,put you on a permant feeding tube.
25 Nov 2012, 23:27 pm
@poppa69-132:
nothnig to do with refs
ab’s were cheats back then too
25 Nov 2012, 23:28 pm
@nortierd-136:
lol
Our postal service can suck believe me.
Seems you are a book worm . I never knew Inga put a book out?
25 Nov 2012, 23:29 pm
@wnbb-138:
that is such a nasty thing to say.
i will give you time to reflect on it.
25 Nov 2012, 23:31 pm
@Hurricane-137: I thought Hore went down into the ruck and tok everything around him into it as well…..but the officials will now make their own little circus and after the Thompson incident will now want to show that they can manage rugby although we all know that they are the idiots who have not even played the game and are all inept at managing the game
25 Nov 2012, 23:31 pm
@wnbb-138:
lol
Looks like wnbb has just stepped it up
25 Nov 2012, 23:32 pm
@JL1-142:
disagree
he clearly targetted him imo.
25 Nov 2012, 23:33 pm
@Hurricane-140:
Inga the Winga.
Amazing thing is Michael Jones is so humble, he doesn’t even have a copy of his own book.
Collect rugby biographies, not so much the NH, they have 10 ten caps then they publish a book, similar to their cricketers.
But some are not so bad.
25 Nov 2012, 23:33 pm
@nortierd-136: dont expect anything revealing in McCaws book..
it is an interesting read but it is quite sanitary…
25 Nov 2012, 23:34 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-141: my fist will reflect on your farking face if you ever cross my path.
25 Nov 2012, 23:35 pm
ok folks
i’ve gotta be up for work real early
cheers all (kiwis included)
25 Nov 2012, 23:35 pm
@Hurricane-140:
Also his book was written by Myanmar Sobryan, an Indian man who lived in Durban who emigrated to New Zealand. He also wrote Pierre Spies’ book.
The common thread is he gives motivational talks at churches and that’s how he met Inga and Michael, through their faith, and Pierre as well
25 Nov 2012, 23:37 pm
@poppa69-146:
No collection will be complete without it.
I don’t like it when players publish while still playing, always more that could have been included
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