Hore set for hefty ban

Hore set for hefty ban

26 Nov 2012

New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.

Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.

The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.

All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.

Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.


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  • 7301.ufo: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 18:19 pm

    @nortierd-7299:

    just my impressions bud…

    i could be totally out of my crease… :wink:

    :lol:

  • 7302.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 18:32 pm

    @gunther-7219:
    Precisely

  • 7303.TooMuchRugby: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 18:33 pm

    @katman-7218:
    That’s just a silly comment and you know it.

  • 7304.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 18:37 pm

    @ryecatcher-7295:
    There’s only one?

  • 7305.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 18:50 pm

    David

    What is your view on the Sobers/Kallis debate?

  • 7306.Treehugger: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 18:59 pm

    Well done Rangerman and welcome to the not so Secret 7 club :mrgreen:

  • 7307.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:01 pm

    @Treehugger-7306: Shhh….I am part of it too.

    But if we keep on bragging about it, it is not a secret anymore innit? :lol:

  • 7308.Dilligafrican: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:04 pm

    @willievz-7305: Sobers was excellent then, would have been excellent today.

    However, statistically JK is the greatest cricketer of all time

  • 7309.Treehugger: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:13 pm

    @willievz-7307: @willievz-7307: hahahaha ja you were 4000 wernt you, can’t remember who 1,2 and 3 are. WP Forever was 5000.

  • 7310.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:13 pm

    @willievz-7305:
    Sobers was the more talented. Kallis the more successful.

  • 7311.ryecatcher: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:14 pm

    @David-7304: Immorality

  • 7312.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:17 pm

    Hard to compare players from different eras. Sobers dominated teams which Kallis doesn’t really do with any regularity, but for my money Kallis is the most successful cricketer of all time on a personal level. Not in the team sense though.

  • 7313.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:19 pm

    @Treehugger-7309: I was 1 ;)

  • 7314.Dilligafrican: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:22 pm

    and Faf is now officially the test player with the highest average ever.

  • 7315.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:22 pm

    @stormersboy-7312:

    It is arguably more difficult to play match-saving innings than match-winning innings.

    Kallis might not be a match-winner, but he has spared our blushes on many an occasion.

  • 7316.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:23 pm

    Doff question, but I wasn’t around at the time. Is this the whoopass fella?

    2.Tacitus said:
    3 Dec 2012, 17:18 pm
    Time to open up a can of whippass in Pool B at the World Cup..

    And if so, isn’t a about 3 years early with his optimism?

  • 7317.Dilligafrican: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:25 pm

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-7316: or 5 years too late

  • 7318.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:27 pm

    @ryecatcher-7311:
    Immortal not immoral.

  • 7319.ufo: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:30 pm

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-7316:

    :lol:

    yes… that’s the one… otherwise known as Frank…!! :wink:

    i think cans of whoopass only come in one colour… babyblue…

  • 7320.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:30 pm

    Goeie griet is this still going

  • 7321.Treehugger: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:31 pm

    @willievz-7313: my bad ! Am thinking keo needs to put up a picture of a trophy with all our names on it, this is so Ruck doesn’t answer the door when the delivery guy or some one rocks up at the next thousand marker, she needs motivation. ;-)

  • 7322.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:33 pm

    @willievz-7315:
    Personally, I’d rate Barry Richards as our greatest batsman, even though he only played 4 tests. His performances in England and Australia were amazing.

  • 7323.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:35 pm

    I would like to see an improvement on this side

    Sobers
    Tendulkar
    Bradman
    Ponting
    Pollock
    Kallis
    Gilchrist
    Warne
    Marshall
    McGrath
    Muralitharan

    I play both spinners

    I play two makeshift openers

  • 7324.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:40 pm

    @Dawn-7320: We’ve only just got started.

  • 7325.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:41 pm

    @willievz-7323:
    That’s mad when you have Barry Richards and Viv Richards available as openers.

  • 7326.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:43 pm

    @willievz-7323:

    I will play Barry Richards as an opening batshman and drop Murilitharin.
    Remember Gary Sobers could bowl left arm orthodox and wrist spin too (besides being a brilliant medium pacer), so you don’t really need 3 spinners.

  • 7327.BrumbiesBoy: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:43 pm

    Thanks for nothing wnbb.

    I had a good chuckle earlier when reading the accolades about Jacques Kallis.

    How many people remember the highly intelligent, super knowledgeable Minister of Sport Ngconde Balfour uttering these famous words: “Who the H e l l is Jacques Kallis? I go to Newlands to watch Paul Adams.”

  • 7328.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:46 pm

    @willievz-7323: I wouldn’t play Ponting.

    I’d have a guy like Viv Richards before him.

    Also possibly Clive Rice.

  • 7329.ufo: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:52 pm

    Would have to go with David here on both counts…

    From a pure batting POV Barry Richards has to be our best ever batsman… Batted with grace and beauty of a ballerina and timing to set nuclear clocks by… a sporting symphony…

    Jakes out best ever cricketer overall…

    and would have to have Barry and Viv to open a best ever 11

    IMO

  • 7330.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:52 pm

    Have you all forgotten Richard Hadlee as a brilliant all rounder?

  • 7331.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:54 pm

    @David-7325: I had to choose between Richards and Ponting. And Ponting at his best was probably the best batsman I’ve ever seen.

    Barry is a fair call, perhaps in place of a spinner.

    @Robzim-7326: Fair call on Sobers. Tendulkar can bowl as well.

    I found it tough to only include one West Indian quickie.

  • 7332.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:56 pm

    @David-7330: No I didn’t.

    But for me it was a choice between McGrath and Sir Richard for the stump to stump medium fast quickie.

  • 7333.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:57 pm

    @ufo-7329: There are only 11 spots.

    I suspect you too will drop the one spinner.

    Question remains:

    Which of Sobers, Tendulkar, Bradman, Pollock, Ponting or Kallis would you drop to play the other opener?

  • 7334.gunther: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:57 pm

    Pack the team with all rounders

    Botham
    Sobers
    Kallis
    Hadlee
    Pollock
    Akram
    Imran

    Add

    Gillie
    Warne
    Richards
    Tendulkar

    :lol:

  • 7335.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:58 pm

    @David-7330: Clive Rice is for my money a better cricketer by some margin.

  • 7336.gunther: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:59 pm

    Malcom Marshall at 12 th man.

    :lol:

  • 7337.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 19:59 pm

    All time one day team:

    Jayasuriya
    Gilchrist
    Ponting
    Tendulkar
    Bevan
    S Waugh
    Klusener
    S Pollock
    Akram
    Muralitharan
    McGrath

  • 7338.gunther: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:00 pm

    @stormersboy-7335:

    Clive a better batsman.

    Hadlee a better bowler.

    I’ve never seen a quick with so much control.

  • 7339.ufo: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:01 pm

    Willie… You’ll hate me for this but id drop Ponting… as all three batsmen in their prime he wasn’t as good as Barry or Viv…

    IMO

  • 7340.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:03 pm

    @ufo-7329:
    Did you see Richards half century against the Widies rebels at Newlands? Hell, the guy was semi retired yet he still stepped inside Sylvester Clarkes lethal inswingers and calmly hoisted him to the mid wicket boundary. I remember one of the well known overseas writers saying it was the finest non century he’d witnessed.

  • 7341.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:03 pm

    @gunther-7338: Graham Gooch had this to say about facing Hadlee:

    “At the one end, it was like facing Ilford’s 2nd XI. And at the other end, it was like facing a World XI.”

  • 7342.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:04 pm

    @ufo-7339: That’s fine.

    Never saw them play so I can only rely on stats.

  • 7343.ufo: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:05 pm

    Yeah David, did too… amazing batsmen…

  • 7344.David: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:07 pm

    @gunther-7338:
    At the time, Hadlee was ranked as the worlds 10th best batsman. Then, of course there was Imran Khan.

  • 7345.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:07 pm

    Cricinfo’s team picked by panel of experts including test players and captains, cricket historians and writers representing all countries:

    Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton, Don Bradman, Sachin Tendulkar, Viv Richards, Gary Sobers, Adam Gilchrist, Malcolm Marshall, Shane Warne, Wasim Akram, Dennis Lillee

    Interesting to note that kallis don’t make the team.

  • 7346.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:08 pm

    Viv Richards played 121 tests.
    Average of “only” 50.
    And a poor conversion rate of 50s into 100s (24 versus 45).

  • 7347.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:09 pm

    Don’t forget Wally Hammond.

  • 7348.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:09 pm

    @Robzim-7345:

    Their second team:

    Sunil Gavaskar, Barry Richards, George Headley, Brian Lara, Wally Hammond, Imran Khan, Alan Knott, Bill O’Reilly, Fred Trueman, Muttiah Muralitharan, SF Barnes

    Still no Kallis

  • 7349.ufo: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:10 pm

    To me… all rounders… kallis sobers…

    and the rest of the pack way back by comparison as good as they all were

  • 7350.willievz: Reply to this comment
    3 Dec 2012, 20:11 pm

    @Robzim-7345: When was this team picked?

    This was Sir Don Bradman’s team, shortly before his death:

    Barry Richards – South Africa
    Arthur Morris – Australia
    Don Bradman – Australia
    Sachin Tendulkar – India
    Gary Sobers – West Indies
    Don Tallon – Australia
    Ray Lindwall – Australia
    Dennis Lillee – Australia
    Alec Bedser – England
    Bill O’Reilly – Australia
    Clarrie Grimmett – Australia

    12th man:
    Wally Hammond – England

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