Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.

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26 Nov 2012, 16:28 pm
I see Victor Matfield has been appointed forward and up-and-under coach for the Bulls…
26 Nov 2012, 16:29 pm
@nama1-698:
My comment had NOTHING to do with race.
In fact I’m a bit offended as I pride myself in distancing myself from the usual racial innuendos on this site.
26 Nov 2012, 16:31 pm
@TooMuchRugby-700:
Correct.
And he must get there. That shows mental strength; something south africans have not always been blessed with.
Did anyone see Allan Donald’s face in that last session? Mate if you’re gonna look like that sit at the back.
26 Nov 2012, 16:38 pm
@WP-Forever-697:
shameful really
26 Nov 2012, 16:40 pm
Biff almost spoke fatherly about his opponents achievements.
Afrikaners today continue to talk about what a great captain Hansie Cronje was, but many fail to recognise Biff’s leadership qualities. Sure, the bloke is not perfect but who is?
Cricket or maybe I should say ‘sport’ is very much a mind game first and foremost.
Lose the game mentally and you’re bound to collapse physically. I have watched Biff’s post match interviews for many years; he’s a smart guy. His achievements at age 31 are truly remarkable.
26 Nov 2012, 16:44 pm
Biff is cute
26 Nov 2012, 16:45 pm
@TooMuchRugby-702:
I think Sheriff made a general comment re the silence around Rudolph and I asked him why he was surprised. That was all.
Not aimed at anybody.
@Sheriff-701:
Oh, that is what the attack bit is about? I was wondering what the attack portfolio entails.
26 Nov 2012, 16:45 pm
I forgot to switch the commentary to the Aus team over the weekend and what a joy to listen to them when Australia dominates.
Comments like ‘ we have begun to question SA’s the No 1 test status ‘ abound…
Just a pity I could not get their commentary today; would have enjoyed the comments of Bill Lawry, Richie Benaud, Mark Taylor, Brett Lee, Ian Healy and even Mark Nicholas…
26 Nov 2012, 16:46 pm
If you need any reminding of exactly why the rest of the world is growing tired of the All Blacks’ arrogant thuggery, then read the comments at the end of this article. Those are the average Kiwi supporters – the man on the street – and that’s the way they feel about this incident. Fck ‘em.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/7996284/Hore-must-be-handed-lengthy-suspension
26 Nov 2012, 16:48 pm
heard that kallis will play – but we won’t bowl …
It will be :
Alviro
Smith
Amla
Kallis
AB
Faf
Rudolph
Steyn
Philander
Kleinveldt
Philander
no spinner will play because of kallis’ injury … also no spinner neeeded – its a wicket for seemers … also Faf can bowl some spin if needed – Robin P is kak
26 Nov 2012, 16:49 pm
@nama1-707:
Victor Matfield is becoming a major irritation to me as in-studio analyst.
His mantra is : ‘Ja I think Heyneke will be happy with the performance…’
Heyneke this. Heyneke that.
At times he is a powerful exponent of how NOT to use your ‘is’ and ‘are’
The rules are simple: Singular => IS; plural => ARE
26 Nov 2012, 16:51 pm
last Philandel = Morkel
26 Nov 2012, 16:52 pm
@Sheriff-711:
You watch too much TV
26 Nov 2012, 16:54 pm
But all the same, I actually enjoy the Aussie commentators – prolly because they such sore losers
Had a good chuckle the other day when the discussion of technology came up and everyone was ripping off Mark Taylor – who seem to be tech challenged. He was asking what Glenn McGrath was trying to do on Twitter?
McGrath bounced back : Does Mark Taylor still have a walkman with a cassette, does he?
26 Nov 2012, 16:55 pm
@Sheriff-711: despair no more, he is gone!!!
coaching the bulls how to attack spaces will be his fulltime gig now…
26 Nov 2012, 16:59 pm
Most white South Afrcans?
Who are you talking about Sharif?
Your in-laws?
26 Nov 2012, 17:00 pm
@suffer_guy-710:
The team doctor over the weekend said that he doubt if Kallis will be available since his batting in the 1st innings made it worse. He batted for another 2 1/2 hours today. I guess we’ll have to see how he feels tomorrow. The quick turn around before the 3rd test starts this weekend does not count in his favour.
If he is good to play, I’m all for it.
@Sheriff-711:
I can forgive him for that. Us Afrikaans speakers make that mistake all the time.
26 Nov 2012, 17:00 pm
@Transformation-715:
Bakkies was looking for you
26 Nov 2012, 17:01 pm
@Dawn-713:
What do you suggest?
Do you suggest I fly to Twickenham to watch Heyneke boks? And then off to Adelaide to watch the Gazza’s boys?
I made a sound investment a few years back to get a lovely (full) HD 50 inch screen with lovely B & W surround sound, so I get pretty close to the action. Yes it was a sacrifice at the time, but worth every cent. Only challenge is that more and more soccer games are beginning to clash with rugby games
26 Nov 2012, 17:02 pm
@Sheriff-719:
Did you buy it from HD Reddy?
26 Nov 2012, 17:03 pm
@Sheriff-719:
Oh put your guns away.
26 Nov 2012, 17:08 pm
@Transformation-715:
Good news, but where is Ashwin Willemse?
I miss him. He brought nice passion to the discussions when everyone is busy trying to say the right thing…
26 Nov 2012, 17:10 pm
@WP-Forever-720:
No from HD Ackerman …
26 Nov 2012, 17:14 pm
ABs have always built their primacy of a brutal ruthlessness – much as they like everyone to believe they are squeaky clean – there’s a v good reason their backs get to run like that – and while bakkies is criticised roundly by them it’s v rich.
26 Nov 2012, 17:16 pm
@Dawn-721:
I put that slice of info there for to alter what you think when you picture me in front of the TV; so now you have screen size, you know it’s full HD and the brand of the speakers.
However I did not state the quantity of speakers nor the brand of TV, but life is good here on this side …
The other thing that remains unclear is: which direction do I face when I watch TV- that will be revealed in 2015
26 Nov 2012, 17:22 pm
@Sheriff-722: ESwin is busy “facilitating” mining rights licences for Goldfields with Gayton…Supersport money is smallfry…
that Gayton oke on MetroFm said he was getting paid R1.4bar a month to.manufacture licences…
26 Nov 2012, 17:27 pm
@Transformation-726:
interesting observation.
I didn’t realize, but basically after the Carte Blanche programme he has been missing from SS
Forgot about that
He wasn’ t too bad in the studio though
26 Nov 2012, 17:35 pm
yeah… i liked ashwin as part of the team… brought great insight and never toed the party line…
26 Nov 2012, 17:43 pm
@Transformation-726:
Very interesting.
I know he was hijacked a few years ago – covered by many newspapers.Takes us back to the observation: things are not always what they seem…
I wonder what Naas Botha, Vic Matfield, Matthew Pearce, Nick Mallett and Xola Ntshinga are up to? Let’s not forget Bob Skinstad and Owen Nkumane …
They all seem pretty squeaky clean to me …
26 Nov 2012, 17:54 pm
@NZINCHINA-16:
Those were the good old days. *sigh* Everyone is so PC today.
26 Nov 2012, 17:54 pm
I would love to hear Nick Mallet and John Robbie in the same studio.
Robbie is also hardly ever on anymore
26 Nov 2012, 18:40 pm
@willievz-667: You said haka may have something to do with a thuggery in the early minutes, mentioning as examples Umaga/Mealamu and now Hore – mind you 2 early thuggish acts by the ABs players in 7 years, and how many hakas have been performed during that time? Close to a hundred.
That’s why I mentioned Burger – as he has done it without any pumping-up by the collective war-dance almost straight after the whistle.
I understand, it’s part of the current collective frenzy to find something sinister, some reason to keep bleating on and on about those dirty keewees while this is just another example of plain stupid and dirty deed by a rugby player regardless of his nationality, nothing less nothing more.
This time a thug happened to be an ABs player and I hope he gets severely punished. Next time it may be a Frog, a Pom, or a Bokke again, so my question is will there be such frenzy here in that case.
By the way, while Ireland XV played Fiji a week ago, a Fijian grabbed testicles of an Irishman causing him an injury, I haven’t seen a whimper here. Maybe because was wearing a different jersey than Hore.
26 Nov 2012, 19:00 pm
@Transformation-726: For the first
time.Well maybe the second.LOL
26 Nov 2012, 19:01 pm
@nortierd-727: Robber dog
26 Nov 2012, 19:06 pm
@nortierd-731: Is he also on the take?
Doubt it.We Irish are upright citizens
26 Nov 2012, 19:23 pm
@ryecatcher-735: How easily a thread
becomes boring.Katman Gunther.Where are you.?.
26 Nov 2012, 20:33 pm
Psychopathic Vermin !!!!!! Murdering an innocent seal !!!!
Until I read about that I was giving him the benefit of the doubt about the knee to the head ….now I seriously hope the psycho sustains an injury that he never plays rugby again, killing an innocent seal…hope some one nails you feckwit !!!
26 Nov 2012, 20:39 pm
@ryecatcher-735:
Top of the morning and all that……
I enjoy John Robbie and it’s a pity he’s no longer in studio
26 Nov 2012, 20:41 pm
@Treehugger-737:
but maybe they needed the meat? who was it, eskimos?
26 Nov 2012, 20:45 pm
@Treehugger-737: I guess you have a real issue with Canadians then with their annual seal clubbing program? What about those murdering **** who work in abattoirs shooting and cutting the throats of all those innocent cows, pigs etc. What about the hunters in your game parks taking out those beautiful wild animals. Unlike some of those animals, seal populations in parts of southern NZ have increased to the point where some sort of management will be soon required to prevent them either wiping out the local fish stocks or starving themselves. Lets keep a bit of real perspective on life.
26 Nov 2012, 20:46 pm
@Treehugger-737:
Correct…you would have to question someones character and integrity if they sit on a boat popping off defenceless fur seals for fun.
26 Nov 2012, 20:48 pm
@nortierd-738: Hi pal.He is always
provacative.Dislike colourless beige people.
26 Nov 2012, 20:53 pm
if all life is sacred, how come it gets wiped out so early?
put it this way would you rather get eaten alive by a polar bear slow or bullett through the kop quick ? maybe if the seal is aware of these choices, he would paint a “X” on his forehead and starting sunning himself on a glacial outcrop of hoe?
26 Nov 2012, 20:56 pm
@ryecatcher-742:
Yes, but he does know his stuff.
That’s why Mallet is such a revelation as well, you don’t get the normal soundbites.
Supersport know rugby is their biggest selling point of decoders, so they can’t slam the Boks week in and week out as it will affect their biggest brand.
Mallet and Robbie don’t sing from the same hymn sheet as the others, although I would love to be a fly on the wall off air while they watch the game.
26 Nov 2012, 20:58 pm
741@Te Rangatira.. Thank you for agreeing…this is not me slagging kiwi’s, but fecking vermin. I work with saving seals in Namibia for a long time before just doing sanctuary…had to to do one more small stint there earlier this year helping some people and this fecking freaks me out big time…to kill an innocent sentient for the hell of it….and illegally….he should be in jail being fecking s*domised
evil ugly anal carbuncle. Have just spoken with a friend and animal activists in kiwi land need to know about this barbaric piece of filth.
26 Nov 2012, 20:59 pm
stupid f’ng pseudo scientist know absolutely fckall about life yet they reckon they the high priest fuckwits who make the rules about who’s life is more relevant than who’s
if ever you do not need a dumb bloody moron at the head of the food chain its the pseudo fcking ignoramus scientist who you most definitely don’t want to follow over the edge of the cliff.
26 Nov 2012, 21:00 pm
That is worked not work with seals…don’t do that anymore.
26 Nov 2012, 21:03 pm
i thought there were no rules, who says whats good or bad?
26 Nov 2012, 21:04 pm
“Man, do not pride yourself on your superiority
to the animals, for they are without sin, while
you, with all your greatness, you defile the
earth wherever you appear and leave an
ignoble trail behind you — and that is true, alas,
for almost every one of us!”
? Fyodor Dostoyevsky,
26 Nov 2012, 21:05 pm
the rules of nature is the realm of the scientist, the rules of morality are the realm of man and the pseudo scientist.
the scientist says e=mc2, the bullshitter says thou shalt not eat wors of proe brannewyn.
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