Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.

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12 Dec 2012, 14:09 pm
@Sheriff-12547:
Erm no.
I’m saying that when an organisation feels it’s necessary to publicly give an employee their ” full support” it means the end is nigh.
I do believe the CIA was on the grassy knoll though.
12 Dec 2012, 14:09 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-12544: Peekaboo…
You promised…
12 Dec 2012, 14:09 pm
@katman-12550: And that brings up the big 12-5-50.
12 Dec 2012, 14:11 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12548: Chrissakes, Bakkies, if you could be any further up Doggys rear end she’s gonna need to blow her nose next time you sneeze…
Farken mutt…
12 Dec 2012, 14:13 pm
@Sheriff-12539:
yes, thank you for the info and agreed.
i try to sift through the noise as best i can.
i suppose we all do in some way or other.
what i would like is to be able to dismiss this most current ‘event’ as a conspiracy theory using that same method you outline.
namely; not everything is true but not everything is a conspiracy theory.
if it fails to occur on the date in question or even a significant number of months therafter, like say 6, then we should confidently toss it in the conspiracy theory basket and move on to the next set of information relating to another set of mysterious phenomena.
12 Dec 2012, 14:13 pm
@Heavens Game-12554:
stop abusing bakkies.
jissus it’s like punching a labrador puppy.
12 Dec 2012, 14:14 pm
@gunther-12551:
I think you may be reading too much into it.
It could simply be a case that the board members (who we must assume all have integrity unless we can prove the contrary) met with him, discussed various issues and concluded that they would like to afford him more time.
Rugby union is not their no 1 sport, so maybe they are quite happy with no 2 and if they fluctuate between no 2 & 3 then to their minds, they are where they should be.
12 Dec 2012, 14:15 pm
@katman-12550: So, truth is dead?
12 Dec 2012, 14:16 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-12546:
in other words he/they are as good as ‘left behind’…?..
@playtheball-12549:
you joke..?.
12 Dec 2012, 14:17 pm
@gunther-12556: Fark man… I can see the farken lolling tongue right up the N1…
12 Dec 2012, 14:18 pm
@Sheriff-12557:
We’ll see.
my guess is he’ll get a boomerang in the back shortly.
especially if the lions **** their leg over the ozzies.
12 Dec 2012, 14:18 pm
@gunther-12556: Forgot the :chuckle: at “punching a labrador puppy”… Hehe
12 Dec 2012, 14:18 pm
@katman-12550: Yup. Very sensible. Similar in thought to the Just-world Fallacy:
“The Just-World Fallacy is the assumption that the world is just: you get what you deserve and you deserve what you get. The word “deserve” is key: this isn’t a neutral, objective observation of events but a moral evaluation of the character and behavior of the people involved.
It’s why rape victims are blamed for having been raped — they must have done something wrong to deserve it. It’s why people who survive accidents say it was God’s will — they must have deserved to be one of the few to live. It’s why the poor are at fault for being poor while the rich are to be praised for being rich — they must all deserve their current financial situation.”
Etcetera… essentially, we give meaning where there is none and thereby create chaos.
12 Dec 2012, 14:18 pm
@Heavens Game-12558: WTF is truth anyway? It’s just a perspective, a point of view.
Here’s what Eco had to say about people and their affinity to “truth”:
“Fear prophets and those prepared to die for the truth, for as a rule they make many others die with them, often before them, at times instead of them.”
12 Dec 2012, 14:19 pm
@Sheriff-12557: World Champs twice? Aussies not too keen on No 2, in any sport…
12 Dec 2012, 14:20 pm
@Heavens Game-12554:
i’m sorry HG, i know its at your expense all too often but you gotta give her credit though. she’s a larf and a half, guaranteed.
@gunther-12556:
thanks for sticking up for me.. errrrr… i think..?..
12 Dec 2012, 14:21 pm
@playtheball-12563: Yes, precisely. When people tell me that misery and fortune are equally part of some pre-ordained plan, I punch them on the nose as a matter of principle.
12 Dec 2012, 14:22 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12559: I do, but I presume Mr Icke and his many followers don’t.
12 Dec 2012, 14:22 pm
@Heavens Game-12562:
Bakkies is a Keo treasure.
And this is HIS thread.
12 Dec 2012, 14:23 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12555:
Yes I would be comfortable with an approach like that.
For example: it has happened on a number of occasions that ENCA’s weather team predicts ‘severe storms’ here in Gauteng.
Yesterday they did and it did not happen. Another time they did and it did happen.However, what one would like to see is that they are correct more often than not.
That said, there is a lot happening in the ‘secret society’ space and one will do well to accumulate knowledge on the topic. For example: it is alleged that even freemasons of today are kept in the dark as to exactly what they’re busy with. And so the journey of success continues until they get to 33rd only to discover total submission to the adversary.
12 Dec 2012, 14:24 pm
@katman-12564: Truth is gravity… The structure of Carbon that differentiates it from Silicon… the freezing point of water… electricity… The laws of nature…
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
Marcus Aurelius
12 Dec 2012, 14:25 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12566: Don’t sneeze… yeah?
12 Dec 2012, 14:26 pm
@gunther-12569: Not since 11111 it aint
12 Dec 2012, 14:26 pm
@gunther-12561:
i’ve got a feeling the lions are going to take a collective kak right on the halfway line of the wallabies ‘field of dreams’… the shock of that, once its sunk in will lead the ARU to act, because at the end of the day… whether its the ARU or Deans… somebody’s gotta face the music…
12 Dec 2012, 14:26 pm
@katman-12567: Hehe.
12 Dec 2012, 14:27 pm
@gunther-12561:
I personally wish that he will get a better opportunity.
He’s a quality bloke and should be given every opportunity to succeed.
12 Dec 2012, 14:28 pm
@Heavens Game-12573:
It was Bakkies thread since the title words flew off Cardinelli’s keyboard.
12 Dec 2012, 14:30 pm
@willievz-11902: Still laughing at your juxtaposition of
Blouberg se strand
and
Skud,skud skud
skud skud skud
skud jou biscuit
Very funny
regards
12 Dec 2012, 14:30 pm
@katman-12564:
amen brother… amen…
@playtheball-12568:
the moon and lady diana shapeshifting sounds like a stretch too far though.
@gunther-12569:
thanks Gunner,
i wouldn’t go so far as to say this baby was all my doing… but i sure as s/hit put my heart into it
12 Dec 2012, 14:32 pm
@Heavens Game-12565:
Yeah but at times I get the sense that they have accepted they will never beat New Zealand in rugby union; they may do so occasionally …
Whilst they may never say it outright, No 2 is far more realistic from what we have seen from them over the last decade.
Boks for me are moving to a No 3/4 spot in my mind. The longer the current coach is there they may migrate to No 4/5 – that’s my view…
12 Dec 2012, 14:33 pm
@gunther-12577: The horeing mofo…
12 Dec 2012, 14:35 pm
@Sheriff-12570:
agreed.
it seems a sensible enough approach.
also, all the more reason not to throw your lot in with just ‘any old secret society’ haha.
@gunther-12577:
you know me too well, good sir…
12 Dec 2012, 14:36 pm
@Sheriff-12580:
will never happen.
springboks are going to be number one by the time RWC 2015 comes around.
12 Dec 2012, 14:37 pm
@Sheriff-12580: Agree with your paras 2 and 3 100%…
But para 1 at odds with the farken Aussie psyche… Just when you think they are down and out then Waltzing Mathilda and woe betide the doubters…
12 Dec 2012, 14:38 pm
@Heavens Game-12554: Can you really blame Bakkies for preferring my @ – s-s to yours?
Find your own. ET will do.
12 Dec 2012, 14:39 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12583: Don’t know what you smoking, Sneezer, but fark me the Boks will not be No 1 if this year is repeated until 2015…Categorically
No 1 will be ABs
No 2 France
And a group of No 3.s including Boks, Eng, Oz…
12 Dec 2012, 14:42 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-12585: No, he’s obviously quite partial to anchovies… And ample covering… including woolly earmuffs.
12 Dec 2012, 14:46 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-12585:
i’ll tale that as a compliment
12 Dec 2012, 14:48 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12582:
Well the question arises then: what is the strong appeal to join the brotherhood?
The fundamental lie of the brotherhood is that you WILL receive a place in the ‘celestial lodge’ above by practicing the lifestyle as taught. So that is the reward, but they insist that they are not a religion.
The appeal is the apparent belonging, the structures, the symbols, the rituals and the opportunities that those who are there seem to have in abundance. It is human nature to go for material success.
People are incredibly impressed with money and what it brings (Yeshua called it Mammon)
And so if we were to measure it empirically at the end of time, you will find that many chose material success. That is: they are prepared to say: may they cut my body in half, may they do this and that with my guts … yes those are some of the oaths that have to be made …
12 Dec 2012, 14:48 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12588: “Tale” being the operative word, ne?
12 Dec 2012, 14:50 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12583:
Ons vir jou Heyneke?
12 Dec 2012, 14:50 pm
@Sheriff-12589: Have you considered that it might just be the “the structures, the symbols, the rituals” that make it attractive… Mammon could just be purely incidental, a side effect – not unwelcome – but not primary either…?
12 Dec 2012, 14:51 pm
@Sheriff-12591:
12 Dec 2012, 14:52 pm
@Heavens Game-12587: I would rather say he is just NOT partial to butts that have been explored and conquered by every ladyboy in Thailand…..
Black Forest cake HG…… Not everyones cup of Coke that.
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12588:
12 Dec 2012, 14:52 pm
@Heavens Game-12584:
ABs have really crushed them over the last few years
I agree they do believe they can win until they’ve sung the anthem; then when they face haka they think to themselves: ok maybe not
12 Dec 2012, 14:53 pm
@Heavens Game-12581:
Looking nothing wrong with being balls deep with pedigree.
She seems to keep herself tidy.
Bakkies done well.
12 Dec 2012, 14:53 pm
@Heavens Game-12586:
i dont know HG
its obviously really hard to say or see the boks doing any better than they have this season. to tell you the truth all i have is a deep seasted belief in the depths of my soul in the boks… and in meyer…
we could look for as many positive and negative signs as possible in everything that’s happened this season, which i do try to do…
but in my heart i just want the boks to be what they rightly should… the best…
and i think they will be under meyer.
notwithstanding the cheating and despicable stuff going on both on and off the field against us.
12 Dec 2012, 14:54 pm
12600?
12 Dec 2012, 14:54 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-12583: Must say, I have to agree with Sheriff and HG on this. I can’t see them getting to No. 1 with the way they’re playing at the moment. But I suppose time will tell.
12 Dec 2012, 14:54 pm
mine now
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