Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.
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31 Dec 2012, 14:50 pm
@nortierd-19440:
sounds a little defeatist and excusatory though .
considering the crusaders history shouldn’t he be called on his lack of success after a substantial number of seasons in charge?
oh well, different views i guess.
31 Dec 2012, 14:51 pm
@ryecatcher-19445: hi Rye, I can’t agree more!!!
Thanks for the wishes – I trust you and the family have a prosperous 2013 as well!
31 Dec 2012, 14:52 pm
Oh,yeah, there is nothing else to support,so I might as well support a hated symbol of apartheid or Afrikaner nationalism!!!You are one hypocrite of note,buddy.What a farking joke to see a Gauteng whitey,suddenly discovering his social conscience and supporting an Aussie team because he is more free to do so in the new SA than the apartheid one.What a farking laugh!!
31 Dec 2012, 15:00 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-19451:
The Crusaders have still had a measure of success, albeit not the title.
I don’t think Blackadder will use anything as an excuse, was just my point of view.
I guess I have a soft spot for them, always have, due to the way they play.
31 Dec 2012, 15:02 pm
wow, it’s postively teeming in Pretoria, comming down in buckets is not even close to describing the rain at the moment.
If this carries on, braaivleis in the oven will have to be the way to go.
31 Dec 2012, 15:03 pm
@wnbb-19453:
So you are a living Saint wnbb?
Without fault, blemish or imperfection?
31 Dec 2012, 15:08 pm
@cane-19456:
that would be me my brother.
31 Dec 2012, 15:11 pm
@ufo-19439: Hi Pal.Would be fantastic if
the night sky were to be cloudless and you could look at the tapestry of stars.(Waxing poetic)
Thanks for your friendship during the last year.
Fiercely hot here.Because it is a farming community (Mealies,soya and cattle)
we are experiencing a plague of flies of almost biblical proportions.
Looks like a classical berg thunnderstorm developing,which will cool things down.
Gods rich blessing to you and your family during 2013.
31 Dec 2012, 15:13 pm
@Fern-19457: Hello Fern.Good 2013
31 Dec 2012, 15:17 pm
@cane-19456: You never know!
31 Dec 2012, 15:18 pm
@ryecatcher-19459:
Thanks boetie,same to you.
It is going to be a good year.
31 Dec 2012, 15:19 pm
@Fern-19457: PS Best wishes to your lady
31 Dec 2012, 15:19 pm
@wnbb-19460:
no one is really interested to find out.
31 Dec 2012, 15:20 pm
@ryecatcher-19462:
Thanks man,9 Jan is the first post op check up.
31 Dec 2012, 15:28 pm
@Fern-19463: Like you with your sob story to solicit acceptance on this blog??
31 Dec 2012, 15:31 pm
Had a frightening thought last night.
If I and my male offspring had remained sufficiently fertile,and the female side of
the family were receptive,then my greatgrandson if one had been born
would be starting high school rugby in 2013.Assuming that no years were
wasted on courtship etc.
Checked and re checked the the maths for a large part of the night.
31 Dec 2012, 15:32 pm
best wishes for 2013 to all the good keo bloggers.
to capo, hope your papsak develops a leak.
31 Dec 2012, 15:32 pm
Is ufo the most sanctimonious blogger on Keo or what? Hell’s bells man, give it a break with your ‘holier than thou self righteous drivel!
31 Dec 2012, 15:35 pm
I’ve got great sympathy for the woman,her daughter and the rest of her extended Indian family,but I got no sympathy for racist ***** like you fernly.You are an despicable piece of human trash who suddenly looks for acceptance on an anonymous blog at the end of this year through this story you have been spinning on here the last week and a half.Sorry,but that is just sick to use someone else’s personal tragedy to solicit friendship or acceptance .especially in regards to your degrading nature right through the year.Skop is right.You are either genuinely good or not and don’t use the Xmas period to be something you are really not.
31 Dec 2012, 15:38 pm
@Chico the Chihuahua-19468: I think that that honour belongs to me.UFO just ahelluva nice person.
31 Dec 2012, 15:42 pm
Lol Capo the racist clown giving morality lectures.
31 Dec 2012, 15:43 pm
@wnbb-19469:
Dawn asked me a question,I answered.
I have moved on from the Indian but we are still great friends.
Me look for acceptance here?Nope,got bigger fish to fry.
As you were,not going to have a discussion with you.
31 Dec 2012, 15:47 pm
@charo-19467: all of the worst to you yourself,puss y.
31 Dec 2012, 15:48 pm
@ryecatcher-19466: Correction
GREAT GREAT GRANDSON
31 Dec 2012, 15:53 pm
Happy 2013 to all Keo guys and ladies….looking forward to an interesting 2013 season…
31 Dec 2012, 16:00 pm
@ryecatcher-19470: Rye, it seems that you should have extended your previous request to the rest of the bloggers as well!
Some people just can’t help themselves!!
31 Dec 2012, 16:02 pm
I’ve got no desire to get into a discussion with you either,but why in the name of The Lord do you people always seem fit to divulge personal matters on an anonymous rugby blog??I didn’t see anyone forcing you to do so ,unless it was made for dramatic effects.
31 Dec 2012, 16:04 pm
@Chico the Chihuahua-19471: Howdy,Hg .What’s up with the new nick …or is it just a Xmas one ??
31 Dec 2012, 16:06 pm
19475 Hi Grant ! Trust you are well!
A Happy and prosperous 2013 to you as well!!
31 Dec 2012, 16:07 pm
@grant10-19475: The same to you Gman.I can only wish a memorable season to the Stormers and hopefully for the implosion of the sharks and bulls.I really don’t ask for much .
31 Dec 2012, 16:28 pm
@grant10-19475:
Hi Grant, Happy 2013 to you and your family.
31 Dec 2012, 16:30 pm
@CharlesM-19479:
Charles, I found out the other day that thanks to you I got to see a Stormers game at Newlands 2 years ago!!
31 Dec 2012, 16:33 pm
Good seats too!!
31 Dec 2012, 16:43 pm
HG finally come down to his real size?
Chihuahua!
31 Dec 2012, 16:44 pm
@carol-19483: Hi Carol – I suppose Grant took you ?
Yes I have to admit I’m very happy with the seats! I trust that you’ve enjoyed Newlands!
A Happy 2013 to you and your family Carol!!
31 Dec 2012, 16:46 pm
@nortierd-19454:
ok, well i dont see things improving for them next season either tbh.
no macaw, one of the franks gone and an iffy carter.
and then there’s the new law changes, which if they come into effect is the biggest danger to the crusaders style of play and will require some doing for them to circumvent/overcome.
i see blackadder has replaced his assistants with basically the whole coaching and conditioning unit from the canterbury team, which is a good thing i guess, only my feeling its a bit like Divvy who sought to replace his assistants when perhaps it would have been better if he had gone.
31 Dec 2012, 16:47 pm
Gayle goes on Twitter tirade
Sydney – Chris Gayle responded to Brad Haddin’s criticism of his form in Australia’s Twenty20 Big Bash tournament with a barb of his own, saying he’s a better batsman than the ex-Test wicketkeeper even on his non-preferred side.
A key player in the West Indies World T20 title triumph, Gayle has scored 70 runs in five matches this season for Sydney Thunder, which lost to Haddin’s Sydney Sixes on Sunday.
Haddin suggested in a television interview after he was dismissed by Gayle that Thunder fans weren’t getting value for money from their star import.
The tall, left-handed Jamaican batsman responded via Twitter on Monday, advising Haddin to “stop watch my money and watch himself!!”
“Not my fault he ain’t good as I am even if I bat right hand!!!”
The tweets had been removed by late on Monday.
http://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/Gayle-goes-on-Twitter-tirade-20121231
31 Dec 2012, 16:50 pm
Bakkies leave the black sportsmen alone
First Adongo now my Chris
31 Dec 2012, 16:52 pm
@ryecatcher-19466:
flippin hell, i always thought you’re kidding when you say you’re 74..?..
i guess not…
31 Dec 2012, 16:54 pm
@Dawn-19488:
flippin funny though
“Not my fault he ain’t good as I am even if I bat right hand!!!”
31 Dec 2012, 16:58 pm
@Dawn-19488: Hi Dawn, to be honest “your” Chris hasn’t made a lot of runs lately. IMO both players’ comments were made out of frustration.
If he is on form, he can destroy any bowling attack on any given day!
31 Dec 2012, 16:59 pm
How Afrikaners are perceived by the British media.Bakkies’ people just can’t help themselves!! By Elles van Gelder
At a right-wing training camp, young South Africans are being trained to fight for their Afrikaner heritage. Film by Ilvy Njiokiktjien
Thick clouds of diesel smoke fill the air outside a rundown guest farm, three hours’ drive east of Johannesburg.
As the stench dissipates, a group of boys, aged between 13 and 19, spill from the bed of a rusty truck, lugging huge bags full of military clothing.
‘There are old bloodstains on my uniform,’ one of them says, as he trades his trainers for army boots.
Shouted orders ring out. Groaning, the boys raise 15ft tent poles among the cowpats dotting the grassland. The large army tent that they put up will be their home for the next nine days.
South African teenagers often go off to camp during school holidays to learn how to start fires, build huts and identify animal tracks. But this survival camp is different. Here, the focus is on the survival of white South Africans.
The participants are all Afrikaners, descendants of Dutch, German and French colonists. They are also all children of the ‘born-free’ generation, born after 1990 into a multiracial South Africa.
‘I don’t know what apartheid is,’ 13-year-old Jano, the youngest member of the group, says. ‘But a long time ago, Nelson Mandela made it so everyone has the same rights.’
Their position as the first generation of whites in the new, integrated South Africa makes them an interesting demographic. They are supposed to help bring about unity and change. But according to Prof Elirea Bornman at the University of South Africa, as Afrikaners many of them feel unsure about their place in their homeland.
‘They have a strong Afrikaner identity and they are struggling to determine their position in South Africa,’ she says. ‘There’s a great deal of anger, too. They know they’re different from the rest of the population.’
That anger is fuelled in part by positive discrimination, which has made it harder for white youth to find jobs and which fans the flames of racism. Many of them feel unwanted. ‘Anyone [in authority] can take their frustration and channel it in a negative way.’
The boys run from the army tent to the mess hall. Before them, under the glare of fluorescent lighting, stands 57-year-old Franz Jooste. Army decorations gleam on his uniform; Jooste fought in the old apartheid army. ‘We’re going to make men of you all,’ he says in Afrikaans.
Jooste is the head of the Kommandokorps, a little-known but potentially dangerous extreme right-wing group. On its website, the Kommandokorps describes itself as an elite organisation, ‘protecting its own people’ in the event of an attack, necessary ‘because the police and the military cannot provide help quickly enough’.
The organisation, though small and not familiar to many in South Africa, claims to have trained more than 1,500 young Afrikaners in defence skills over the past 11 years. Jooste, who spreads his message via email and newsletters, says that 40 per cent of boys sign up themselves. The rest are volunteered by their parents.
Kommandokorps feeds on anxiety. Though the national crime rate is dropping, South Africans are increasingly anxious. Every year, 16,000 murders are committed and 200,000 assaults with intent to cause bodily harm. The violence breeds a sense of fear.
As a result, farmers organise themselves into countryside militia and patrol at night to ensure their cattle are not stolen, urban residents form neighbourhood watches, and every South African (white and black) who can afford it hires a private security company that will send an armed response team to his home when the alarm goes off. All of which provides fertile ground for an organisation such as the Kommandokorps.
‘We always have to lock our doors at night,’ Nicolas, 18, says. ‘This camp will teach me how to protect my father and mother and little brother and sister.’ But the group’s leader has a greater objective.
It is 4.30 on the first morning of camp. The boys are sent out on a one-and-a-half-mile run in their heavy army boots, down a rocky country road filled with potholes.
Sixteen-year-old EC is in the middle of the exhausted troop. Though not one of the youngest present, he is one of the smallest, a childish teenager who is primarily excited at being able to shoot his paintball gun.
‘I want to be able to defend myself. And I am also doing this for my paintball career,’ he says with a smile.
At 18, Riaan is more self-assured. ‘I want to learn how to camouflage myself in the field,’ he says.
As we talk about their country, the teenagers say they believe in the idea of South Africa, the ‘rainbow nation’. ‘People generally get along pretty well,’ Riaan says. ‘We have to fight racism.’ EC has two black friends, Thabang and Tshepo. ‘I don’t like racism,’ he says.
Yet some of the older generation’s fears are visible in these boys, even though they were born after the end of apartheid. ‘I’m terrified to walk past black people,’ Jano says. EC says he would never marry a black woman. The boys seem trapped between the ideas their parents have passed on to them and what they learn at their mixed-race schools and experience daily.
Jooste sits in the mess hall and looks through the glasses on his nose at the following day’s programme. Kitsch paintings of buffalo, elephants and rhinos hang on the wall. The wicker furniture is covered in zebra-print fabric.
Jooste is a proud veteran. He fought along South Africa’s borders with Zimbabwe (then Rhodesia) and Mozambique in the 1970s and is scarred by what he calls treason. While he was fighting for the white regime, his leaders were making peace with Mandela. ‘Aside from the Aborigines in Australia, the African black is the most underdeveloped, barbaric member of the human race on earth,’ he tells the boys during one of his lectures.
Few of South Africa’s 4.6 million whites (in a population of 50 million) share Jooste’s desire to return to the past. The country’s lone Afrikaner political party, the Freedom Front Plus, polled only 0.83 per cent of the vote in the 2009 general election. The majority of whites support the new democratic South Africa.
‘There are a few right-wing splinter groups, though I think they have no more than a thousand active members,’ says Prof Hermann Giliomee, a historian specialising in Afrikaners. The most prominent is the AWB, the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (Afrikaner Resistance Movement), with which Jooste shares certain ideological views, but that organisation has lost momentum since the murder last year of its leader, Eugène Terre’Blanche.
As the voice of hardcore Afrikaners has become quieter, men such as Jooste have become more desperate to preserve, as he sees it, the Afrikaner identity, and establish a new independent Afrikaner nation. That means cultivating a new generation.
Jooste is lecturing in the mess hall. ‘Who is my enemy in South Africa?’ he asks. ‘Who murders, robs and rapes?’ His cadets sit cross-legged on the ground. ‘Who are these creatures? The blacks.’ Jooste goes on to tell the boys that black people have a smaller cerebral cortex than whites, and thus cannot take initiative or govern effectively.
Jooste boasts that it will take him only an hour to change the boys’ minds. ‘Then they’ll know they aren’t part of the rainbow nation, but part of another nation with an important history.’
He picks up the South African flag, which was adopted in 1994, and lays it before the entrance to the mess hall like a doormat. He orders the boys to wipe their filthy boots on it. They laugh uncertainly, then they do as they are told. Jooste tells them that they should love the old South African flag and the old national anthem.
Indoctrination takes root best in exhausted minds. Outside, the cadets are made to crawl across the ground, gripping a wooden beam they call ‘sweetheart’ in their arms, their knuckles bleeding. ‘Persevere! You’ve got to learn to persevere!’ Jooste shouts.
The sound of crying rises from the rearmost ranks. Jooste’s assistants, older members of the Kommandokorps, grin as they take photos of the boys with their mobile phones. It feels almost sadistic.
EC is struggling. The beam weighs almost a third as much as he does. The nights, too, are hitting him hard. ‘We sleep on the ground and our sleeping bags get wet,’ he says. ‘In three nights, I’ve slept six hours. Every day I think about giving up.’
Frans Cronje, the deputy CEO of the South African Institute of Race Relations, insists that ‘relations between black and white are civil’, but while he dismisses Kommandokorps as an extremist fringe, he believes that the camp none the less represents a real concern. Jooste’s message is that conflict between whites and blacks is just around the corner. ‘I think we’re sitting on a timebomb here in South Africa,’ Jooste says. ‘It’s inevitable that something is going to happen in this country, because there is discord.’
Cronje’s worry is that it takes only one boy to act on Jooste’s words for there to be a serious incident. ‘When you convince a child that blacks are the enemy, the danger is that he will act upon it. He gets a gun, climbs on to a bus full of black schoolchildren, and shoots 20 of them dead. That’s a realistic danger. It’s brainwashing, and it’s easy to do.’
At camp, the young faces are increasingly marked by exhaustion as the days pass, yet the boys seem to grow more and more confident. ‘The training has taught me that you should hate black people,’ EC says. ‘They kill everyone who crosses their path. I don’t think I can be friends with Thabang and Tshepo any more.’
Riaan repeats what he has learnt in nine days almost word for word: ‘There’s a war going on between blacks and whites. A lot of blood will flow in the future. I definitely feel more like an Afrikaner now. I feel the Afrikaner blood in my veins.’
Jooste maintains that he doesn’t want to force the boys in any particular direction. ‘All we want to do is channel the feeling they already carry within them,’ he says. ‘We don’t want them to hate. We just want them to love their own culture, traditions and symbols, and to fight for independence and freedom.’
As he prepares to leave camp on the final day, Riaan appears to have absorbed Jooste’s message: ‘This is my country,’ he says. ‘I will fight for it.’
31 Dec 2012, 17:01 pm
Charles Charles Charles.
Who cares!
He looks good making 2!!!!!
31 Dec 2012, 17:04 pm
Wannabe
Keep it short man.
You on my hitlist
31 Dec 2012, 17:06 pm
@wnbb-19492:
you know, i actually do want to engage with you and all that is holding us back is the apology you need to make to Gunther, do this… please.
if you can win my respect back as well your own self respect we both stand to gain and short of this we only lose.
you are a bette rman than you make yourself out to be here, i believe this.
and believe me, i know i am not perfect and that it isn’t always easy to do the right thing. to be fair to myself though, i have at least tried to make amends at times for the things i have said which has offended people.
31 Dec 2012, 17:10 pm
@Dawn-19493: Yes mon!!
31 Dec 2012, 17:13 pm
@CharlesM-19485:
I went with Grant (and a blonde) and Robzim!! Fun time
31 Dec 2012, 17:15 pm
Charles Charles Charles!
It’s Jah Mon!
31 Dec 2012, 17:17 pm
Btw, the British Media are not much interested in the Afrikaner!
They are just big blokes who play a tough game of rugby!!
31 Dec 2012, 17:17 pm
@Dawn-19498: Apologies!! Jah Mon !!
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