Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.
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2 Jan 2013, 17:42 pm
@bananaboy-20398:
no prob bud… it is funny…
as i said he was tasked to play a particular role which disallowed him from letting go…
but happy he has shown me the error of my ways…
2 Jan 2013, 17:43 pm
@nortierd-20396:
We should drink a shooter each time any player puts in a hard hit on Pukie
Imagine how much you’ll drink during the Derbies?
2 Jan 2013, 17:44 pm
@nortierd-20395:
If we agreed on everything, the world would be a very dull place.
At least we agree on which rugby team is the best in the country.
2 Jan 2013, 17:45 pm
Many people are still unwilling to accept Kallis’ greatness because of a so-called boring approach to the game.
In my opinion, entertainment value should be excluded as criteria when discussing greatness. Otherwise people will start to discuss Flintoff when comparing the “great” allrounders of the game.
In any case, calling Kallis an allrounder is an insult to his ability. He is one of the greatest batsmen of all time, who – by the way – also has 282 test wickets.
2 Jan 2013, 17:46 pm
@victoriabok-20402:
Will make watching the Kings somewhat more tolerable.
For the teetotalers out there, they can have a shooter every time my side scores a four try bonus point.
2 Jan 2013, 17:47 pm
@Jeraldjay-20403:
Lol, with you on that one.
2 Jan 2013, 17:49 pm
@nortierd-20395:
I would have gone for Sobers, not only because of the entertainment value but also because he was even “more of an all rounder” than Kallis in the sense that he could bowl fast as well as two different types of spin at the top level. So he was basically “3 players into one “.
As far as SA all rounders are concerned it will be hard to choose between Kallis and Mike Proctor with Proctor the better bowler and Kallis the better basman – and Proctor by far the most explosive of the 2 but Kallis the more solid.
Proctor was arguably the most naturally gifted SA player of all time imo.
2 Jan 2013, 17:50 pm
@willievz-20404:
C’mon Willie, entertainment got everything to do with it.
Without the fans/TV rights the game would not exist.
2 Jan 2013, 17:50 pm
@nortierd-20405:
The camera must show Cheeky during the game too, like they always show Wynie.
I would like to see him pop a vein in his a.ss on the big screen when a NZ team puts 100 past the Entitlement Kings the first time
2 Jan 2013, 17:50 pm
Apparently Sachin Tendulkar went to see Don Bradman at his 90th birthday and while they were talking about averages Sachin asked, ‘Sir Don, if you were playing today, what would you have averaged?’ Bradman replied , ’70 – probably.’ When Sachin asked , ‘Why 70 and not your actual average of 99?’ Bradman said, ‘Come on, an average of 70 is not bad for a 90-year-old man’.
2 Jan 2013, 17:50 pm
@Robzim-20407:
What about Lara?
On song he could play beautiful shots too?
2 Jan 2013, 17:54 pm
@Jeraldjay-20408:
David Boon and Merv Hughes might be greats of the game, but they are not great cricketers.
2 Jan 2013, 17:54 pm
@Robzim-20407:
Interesting point. I know it’s unfair to ask, but on how many tests played should one decide on the criteria.
Not Proctor’s fault he couldn’t have a full International career, but looking at Kallis’ longevity and the opposition he played against, coupled with his faultless fielding, he certainly rates higher than any other IMO.
2 Jan 2013, 17:55 pm
@Robzim-20407: Kallis is not an allrounder.
He is an all-time great batsman with 44 test centuries.
Oh, and by the way, he has 282 wickets.
2 Jan 2013, 17:56 pm
Is the brawl over?
2 Jan 2013, 17:58 pm
@victoriabok-20409:
Man, don’t mention Wynie.
He must have family behind the camera, no other manager gets close to that amount of air time.
Cheeky will be swilling Johnny Walker Blue down his gullet in the hospitality suite, he has one year to live it up, not going to miss out, so I doubt the camera will pick him up.
2 Jan 2013, 18:03 pm
@Robzim-20410:
The pitches weren’t covered in those days not like the featherbeds they bat on today and their is no comparision between the bats of today and the bats used even 10 years ago.
And obviously the no helmet factor.
2 Jan 2013, 18:03 pm
@nortierd-20416:
Does he drink?
He’s one of the born again holier than thou hypocrites, I doubt that he’ll drink
That’s Cheeky not Wynie
Victor said O on Darren’s Ba.llz radio
2 Jan 2013, 18:04 pm
Victor said on Darren’s Ballz Radia the other day that
2 Jan 2013, 18:05 pm
@blue and white stripes-20333: Hello my man
Good to hear from you.All of the best to you and yours… 2013 and beyond
2 Jan 2013, 18:05 pm
@victoriabok-20418:
F.cing computer, sending before I’m done
Vic said Oom Wynie loves jis Red Heart and keeps a bottle in his desk drawer
2 Jan 2013, 18:07 pm
@Jeraldjay-20417:
Again, how do we compare.
The players cried and complained about bodyline bowling, today’s players will dispatch those balls so far, the bowlers won’t know what hit them
@victoriabok-20418:
Very possible, maybe he will just enjoy the grub and attention
2 Jan 2013, 18:09 pm
@Robzim-20407: Sorry Robzim but some would day that Eddie Barlow and to some extent Trevor Goddard were as good or not better than Proccie. Bunter was phenomenal at getting the breakthrough when it was needed and also opened the batting. Never forget him conjuring up some of the shots that players have only now started to incorporate in their 20/20 game.
2 Jan 2013, 18:09 pm
@nortierd-20413:
Tough one. I guess the bottom line is one cannot really compare players from differnt era’s- too many differences between th eras to take into consideration for the comparison to be 100% valid or fair.
@willievz-20414:
Sure.. as a batsman he is tops… but my point was that IF they must compete for an allrounder positon it will be hard to choose.
2 Jan 2013, 18:09 pm
@bananaboy-20423: that is in terms of natural giftedness.
2 Jan 2013, 18:09 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-20337: Absolutely.Having a good day?
2 Jan 2013, 18:10 pm
@nortierd-20422:
On a green Mamna pitch a real fast bowler would still hurt todays batsmen
The pitches are much more batsmen friendly these days
2 Jan 2013, 18:10 pm
@victoriabok-20421:
Ha ha, that would seem very likely.
2 Jan 2013, 18:16 pm
@Robzim-20424:
Agree, made that point, it’s a different game.
Today’s batsmen have definitely evolved and have a much bigger shot selection, the good ones that is, no current NZ batsmen in that bracket.
@victoriabok-20427:
The better bowlers still get their wickets, but remember, give today’s bowlers 6 bouncers per overs like in those days, they will also hurt you.
Now they have a one bouncer per over rule to contend with
2 Jan 2013, 18:20 pm
@katman-20366: Hi Katman.Your humour
has been sorely missed here.A very good 2013 to you and yours.
2 Jan 2013, 18:28 pm
@willievz-20412: Great boozers though
2 Jan 2013, 18:29 pm
@Jeraldjay-20417: Agree 100%
2 Jan 2013, 18:31 pm
@bananaboy-20423: Never Trevor
2 Jan 2013, 18:37 pm
@ryecatcher-20433: Trevor was a great allrounder and captain but of course he was a Natalian.
2 Jan 2013, 18:43 pm
@Heavens Game-20360: Hello Hg
after a year on this site I still have not mastered the vernacular.
What is mofo?.Serious question.
2 Jan 2013, 18:45 pm
For all you seeming smartaresed cricket mugs, be duly informed that the old , genuine and denied Windians, Indians and Pakistanis would own 99% of all the records(they own much in any case) as they did not play, in their day, against the weak national teams that existed or came into cricketing existence anytime from the 1950s to the present; that includes S.Africa, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh let alone the Irish, Dutch, Afghanistanis etc., etc., etc. – So STFU, you morons.
Can any of you deny that the likes of Viv and Garfield and Collie Smith and Headley etc., etc., etc. would have smacked Hugh ‘Toey’ Tayfield or any of his brothers or Athol McKinnon or Kelly Seymour or Adcock or Heine or many more for 8 sixes in an over?
In the absence of Eternal Truth you are mere followers as now, so suddenly, indicated by the elevation of Sir Gary Sobers to the very best ever because you were long ago educated that he was the only triple cricketer(in one) to grace the fields of the world he was allowed to grace ; do you even know why and do you really care as you so care about farm workers in your areas?
As it already is today your arses are paining you as the likes of Philander, Petersen and Amla have blackened your cricketing day and reclaimed their home of cricket.
2 Jan 2013, 18:49 pm
@bananaboy-20434: I know.His 30 overs
for 30 runs always impressed me.I would have liked a few more wickets.
Stand under correction but I think that he only scored 1 test 100.
Lots of 50,s 60,s 70,though.
Always an honourable man who “walked” in situations where none
except Jonty(AnotherNatalian) would.
Must be something about the spirit of fair play which Natalians have.
2 Jan 2013, 18:54 pm
@victoriabok-20409: Wynie. My hero
2 Jan 2013, 19:00 pm
@ryecatcher-20438:
You can “feel” the tension on the pitch by watching Wynie
Ian McIntosh always looked if his eyes were going to pop out during a match and he probably smoked at least 40 cigarettes each half as well
2 Jan 2013, 19:01 pm
@ryecatcher-20431: Certainly.
They added to the entertainment of cricket, immensely so.
And many mediocre cricketers can grow a moustache and / or do chicken dances when they get a wicket. But that does not make them good at cricket. Hence entertainment value should not be criteria for a great cricketer. For batsmen and bowlers you should only consider their ability with willow and leather.
2 Jan 2013, 19:02 pm
@ryecatcher-20437:
> Must be something about the spirit of fair play which Natalians have.
They get taught that way at the good schools they have in KZN
My friend’s from Michaelhouse and you can see it in the way he behaves, a real gentleman
2 Jan 2013, 19:03 pm
@willievz-20404: Yeah Willie, I’ve got a brainteaser for you.
Which “famous” SA politician once uttered these famous words?…”Who the
H e l l is Jacque Kallis? I go to Newlands to watch Paul Adams, not him.”
(Clue – he was the then Minister of Sport and his physique made him appear as a real good role-model for all aspiring young sportsmen & women.)
Was it:
a) Ngconde Balfour
b) Ngconde Balfour
c) Ngconde Balfour
Only one chance allowed Boet!
2 Jan 2013, 19:03 pm
@willievz-20440:
Not anyone can grow a mo like Hugh though
2 Jan 2013, 19:04 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-20442: What an absolute disgrace of a public servant.
2 Jan 2013, 19:04 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-20442:
d.) Ngconde “Buffet” Balfour perhaps?
2 Jan 2013, 19:07 pm
Anyways gents, I’m over and out.
Chat tomorrow.
2 Jan 2013, 19:09 pm
@bananaboy-20423:
Yep, Bunter was renowned for getting out batsmen with his one good ball of the over and his cover drive over the slips.
2 Jan 2013, 19:12 pm
@victoriabok-20445:
2 Jan 2013, 19:15 pm
@victoriabok-20427:
I think that’s the main difference. You certainly don’t get the green tops or the type of drying spinners paradise that allowed Laker to take his 19 wickets. People forget that before Packer, wickets were left uncovered to the elements.
2 Jan 2013, 19:26 pm
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