Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.
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4 Jan 2013, 12:40 pm
This one’s for Wnbb, Transformation and any other “believers”…
MERIT ONLY, NOTHING ELSE IS ACCEPTABLE – PAULSE
Breyton Paulse stepped into the debate over transformation within South African rugby and urged the administrators to cool their desire for instant promotion for black players within the Springbok team.
The Springbok wing flew out with Jake White’s squad last night en route to Sydney where South Africa will play Australia in the first Mandela Cup match on Saturday week. Before he left, Paulse called for less political intervention and rejected the view of SARU President Brian van Rooyen that a set number of players should be included in every Springbok squad.
Paulse, who has played in 51 Tests for South Africa and is as outstanding a role model as you could find, says Jake White’s softly-softly approach to bringing through young black players to the top level is right.
“I think Jake is right to have taken this stand and says that he must select the team. He has to make the calls, take the responsibilities and the consequences.
“He is best played to decide when a player is ready to make the step up to Test rugby.
“He must feel happy with the team he puts on the field. Unfortunately, at the top level, there is too much political intervention.
“The trouble is, nobody put things in place where this was dealt with professionally. In some ways, the quota system works because these young guys get opportunities.
“But if you throw them in the sea too early, many of them will not be equipped to swim all of a sudden. Just chucking people in before they are ready will do more harm than good. Some you can push in quickly, but others will need more time.”
Paulse warned of the potential damage to young players who have had few advantages in their earlier life.
“Suddenly they get big contracts worth big money. Their eyes get big and they soon disappear as serious sportsmen. No one taught them how to use that to their advantage, how to become serious and professional.”
Paulse says in probably five years’ time, this situation will change. He points to the success of the the South African Under-19 and Under-21 World Cup-winning teams and says he felt proud to see the integration that has already been achieved.
“It was great to see all those talented kids and they are a great example. You could see they were happy together and that a wonderful bond had been created among them. We should learn from those guys.
“But above all, we should remember that this process should not be artificially rushed. It will happen. It is coming as we have seen. That is the future.”
As for his own experience Paulse said: “I accepted from the beginning that you have to be there on merit to get into the Springbok side. Nothing else is acceptable.”
(The above article was written by Peter Bills and appeared in a local newspaper on June 30 2005)
4 Jan 2013, 12:52 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-21151: sorry, opening paragraph should read: “Breyton Paulse yesterday…”
4 Jan 2013, 12:54 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-21151: And the end of the second paragraph should read: “that a set number of black players should be included…”
4 Jan 2013, 12:55 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-21151: And yet he accepted his selection ahead of Jacque Fourie against England in 2004, after political interference…
4 Jan 2013, 12:56 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-21151: Sorry, bad typist I am the fifth one should start: “He is best placed to decide…”
4 Jan 2013, 12:59 pm
@willievz-21154: Sure, but maybe then he was still a bit “green” and only realised it about a year later when this article was written.
4 Jan 2013, 13:06 pm
Lowest Test Innings Totals Ever:
New Zealand 26 ………………..v England. 1955.
South Africa 30 ………………… v England 1896.
South Africa 30 ………………… v England 1924.
South Africa 35 …………………. v England 1899.
South Africa 36 …………………. v Australia 1932.
Australia 36 ……………………… v England 1902.
New Zealand 42 ……………….. v Australia 1946.
Australia 42 ………………………. v England 1888
India 42 ………………………………v England 1974.
South Africa 43 ………………….. v England 1889.
Australia 44 ………………………..v England 1896.
South Africa 45 ………………… v Australia 1932.
England 45……………………….. v Australia 1887.
New Zealand 45 ……………… v South Africa Cape Town 2 Jan 2013 Test # 2069.
We didn’t even make the Top Ten………………………………….I’m disappointed.
4 Jan 2013, 13:08 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-21156: He was a 50-test veteran in 2004.
Nothing green about that.
4 Jan 2013, 13:11 pm
@cane-21147: HG is a winner in one place only Cane. His head. He is the true selfdeludedfcfacefckadillygrandioserntface Skop harps on about….adfuckingnauseum.
4 Jan 2013, 13:19 pm
@willievz-21158: You’re right about that! Maybe then a case of “shutting up while the going’s good”?
4 Jan 2013, 13:22 pm
my my, hey hey
this hore thread is here to stay
it’s better to burn out
than to fade away
my my, hey hey.
out of the blue
and from behind his back
he swung his fist
and will pay for that
and once he’s gone
he can never come back
when it’s out of the blue
and behind the back.
the hore is gone
but he’s not forgotten
this is the story
of a johnny rotten
it’s better to burn out
than it is to rust
the hore is gone
but he’s not forgotten.
hey hey, my my
this-here thread can never die
there’s more to the picture
than meets the eye.
hey hey, my my.
4 Jan 2013, 13:23 pm
@willievz-21158: @BrumbiesBoy-21160:
Breyton Paulse is a legend………………………………..Skim told me so.
Had the heart of a lion.
4 Jan 2013, 13:24 pm
@nortierd-21134:
hehehe
@cane-21136:
and good for him at that.
we’re the fools who keep coming back
@I am a stormer-21137:
hehehe
give it time
you could sneak it later@cane-21140:
thanks Cane.
4 Jan 2013, 13:28 pm
@cane-21162: Fantastic bloke.
4 Jan 2013, 13:30 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-21159:
Even he (HG) does not believe he is a winner Doggie.
He knows it, We know it. All of us.
11111.
Just random numbers really.
like 666.
4 Jan 2013, 13:36 pm
@cane-21165: And the random numbers 666 are far more appropriate than 11111 when HG is in question…..
4 Jan 2013, 13:37 pm
11111 might be a random number.
But what a random number.
4 Jan 2013, 13:41 pm
@ufo-21161:
hehehe
nice one
4 Jan 2013, 13:43 pm
@willievz-21167:
i dont get it?
is it different from 22222 or 33333 or 44444?
of course 22222 is around the corner if anyone wants it.
4 Jan 2013, 13:46 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-21151:
“He points to the success of the the South African Under-19 and Under-21 World Cup-winning teams and says he felt proud to see the integration that has already been achieved.”
That was 7 years ago. It would be interesting to see how many of those players of colour actually went on to play for the Boks.
4 Jan 2013, 13:48 pm
@willievz-21164:
I remember once……………………………………Jonah was in full flight, running down the side line …………………………………….only Breyton between him and the line.
pause here for a moment…………………………….Jonah 115 kgs, Breyton maybe 80 kg dripping wet. (maybe less).
Well, Paulse managed to get hold of one thigh, and hang on he did. Like a barnacle……………………………………………………..for maybe 3 seconds till the cavalry arrived.
Ref blows the whistle, and one by one the defenders rise up. Last man up, Paulse.
Saved a try for sure. Was dragged clutching Jonah’s leg 20 metres.
I will never forget that.
ever.
4 Jan 2013, 13:51 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-21169:
If I get it………………………………………IT WILL NOT BE RANDOM.
4 Jan 2013, 13:52 pm
@cane-21171:
Breyton Paulse = a very good Springbok
4 Jan 2013, 13:57 pm
@ufo-21161:
Well I heard mister Young sing about us
Well, I heard ole Neil put us down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don’t need him around anyhow
4 Jan 2013, 14:02 pm
@cane-21174:
hehehe…
Oh oh Canabama
The devil fools
with the best laid plan.
Swing low Alabama
You got spare change
You got to feel strange
And now the moment
is all that it meant.
Oh oh Canbama
Banjos playing
through the broken glass
Windows down in Canabama.
See the old folks
tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Don’t it take you down home?
4 Jan 2013, 14:12 pm
@cane-21171:
yes, i think i remember that too but cant say which game it was.
my best paulse memory was/is the 1999 3rd place play off against NZ.
paulse outran the entire all black team, from inside our half i think, chipped ahead twice and then regathered and scored after cullen failed to secure the ball.
it was a brilliant try and the only one of the match and you just knew the boks were gonna win that game once he scored.
pity Mallet opted for Kayser in the game against Oz.
4 Jan 2013, 14:15 pm
@cane-21172:
right, you’re on.
4 Jan 2013, 14:17 pm
823 to the next milestone.
can we do it?
In the words of that good man.
No THAT great man …………………
Bob The Builder.
yes we can.
f
4 Jan 2013, 14:19 pm
The kiwi physio better hang around.
Young Patel taking fire.
4 Jan 2013, 14:23 pm
@TooMuchRugby-21170: Sure, fair point, but having said that it would also be nice to see which (white) players didn’t make it because of the QS. But it will also all be academical/theoretical because the old story of “would/wouldn’t he’ve made it were it not for the QS?” will sadly still apply nevertheless and we’ll never know.
However I’m convinced our two cutting-and-pasting experts are hard at work as we speak!
4 Jan 2013, 14:24 pm
@gunther-21179:
Spare ribs.
4 Jan 2013, 14:27 pm
Spare broeks more like WP.
4 Jan 2013, 14:29 pm
Franklin winged now.
4 Jan 2013, 14:31 pm
Steyn wants blood.
4 Jan 2013, 14:38 pm
Crazy Eyes!
4 Jan 2013, 14:54 pm
kaput….well done the nr 1 team in the world…
eat the LittleHorseyBuoy
4 Jan 2013, 14:55 pm
And that’s it.
Goodnight keewees.
4 Jan 2013, 14:55 pm
Well done Proteas, business as usual.
Well done to Black Caps for their better effort in the second innings.
4 Jan 2013, 14:55 pm
congrats proteas…!!!
4 Jan 2013, 15:01 pm
@ufo-21189:
You you doing UFO?
You enjoy your day at Newlands?
4 Jan 2013, 15:03 pm
Congrats Proteas.
How about another one.
So we can win our first home series since President Zuma took office.
4 Jan 2013, 15:07 pm
cool thanks nortie…
how’re you doing…?
yeah… went yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it… always lekker to go to newlands… very festive…
4 Jan 2013, 15:10 pm
@ufo-21192:
Always good, thanks.
The test was over so soon, lucky you got a full day in.
I wouldn’t mind a day at Newlands again, been many years.
4 Jan 2013, 15:11 pm
@willievz-21191:
so whats that, 3 years?
not really a significant amout of time?
4 Jan 2013, 15:15 pm
when last did you go nortie…?
yeah… and weather been perfect too… as doull said earlier one of, if not the, most picturesque cricket ground in the world… always heckuva lot of fun there…
4 Jan 2013, 15:18 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-21194:
It’s enough time for him to rape and plunder the nation.
4 Jan 2013, 15:29 pm
@gunther-21196:
hehehe
i meant its not such a long time since they’ve won a home series if it happened since he took office.
but you probably knew that.
4 Jan 2013, 15:36 pm
@ufo-21195:
Good question,
Last I was there was in 2007, but for the Police World Cup.
Last match I watched must have been in the 90′s.
Too long
Must plan my next holiday to Cape Town to coincide with the Boxing Day test.
4 Jan 2013, 15:40 pm
sheesh… that is long…
when you do, let us know and we can make a plan for a couple of beers…
4 Jan 2013, 15:44 pm
@ufo-21199:
Will do.
My sister went through yesterday.
Think she was on Keo at some stage as well, probably under something like Stormergirl or something to do with Stormers.
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