Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.
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17 Jan 2013, 15:33 pm
@Transformation-25343:
I will do what I have to do just so that you promise to allay the fears of Koleka, Koliswa, Lumbka and Tempa , all as you know from The BOARDWALK.
They have not seen you their ever since I hit town way back in early Nov., 2012.
Show them that I have not harmed you and that you are alive and well.
17 Jan 2013, 15:34 pm
What sort of reception can Luke expect from the Loftus crowd.
17 Jan 2013, 15:34 pm
Should read TEMBA as he is not an ‘oupa’
17 Jan 2013, 15:37 pm
@nortierd-25340:
I once ate a Brownie till she farted.
17 Jan 2013, 15:38 pm
@The Angerman-25348:
Is still an angry, but FAKE, ‘skollie’ with Scotland papers in his back-pocket.
‘Kaalgat is jy nog steeds maar dit is mos somer in Kwa-Zulu.’
17 Jan 2013, 15:40 pm
@Skeppie-25262:
Louis Luyt and info scandal’s Dr Eschel Rhoodie? For those who do not know, the Nat government set up a propaganda paper called Citizen to counter the Rand Daily Mail in the 70s or early 80s and Dr Luyt was its frontman. Millions were channelled into it and funds were lost without trace. Dr Rhoodie ended up in Switzerland a very rich man and was never brought to book. Dr Mulder,then info minister and BJ Foster were the political fall guys and Groot Krokodil took over.
President Mandela was forced to appear in a high court by Louis Luyt when he wanted to set up a commission of inquiry to investigate the affairs of Saru. Madiba lost on technicality and Louis Luyt’s fortunes at Saru went pear shaped and ended up formig a party that is not existing anymore. I believe he is a pensioner somewhere in KZN now.
For both instances Dr Luyt never stood infront of a court to answer!
The question is: there are questions of financial probity hanging on Dr. Luyt as just mentioned. Are you as consistent with him as you do with Cheeky Watson?
Just asking -
17 Jan 2013, 15:42 pm
@ET.-25351: DrfuckingDoolittledumfuck. “They have not seen you their ever since I hit town way back in early Nov., 2012. ”
It is THERE, not THEIR…….. (another mistake your alter Neilanutter makes on a regular basis)
And the furthest you have been from SA you unholytrinityofantisocialspoeg, is the ‘alleged’ invitation to play ping pong or badminton in Singapore – 1976.
What time is it in the US? Wait, let me answer
“It’s 15:40″…….
Now tell me about Lance why don’t you.
17 Jan 2013, 15:43 pm
@NZINCHINA-25352:
It won’t be pretty.
But then again he’s played such little rugby in the last 2 years they may have forgotten who he is.
17 Jan 2013, 15:45 pm
@mrblack: bakkies is a closet bigot, no respect for him from me
17 Jan 2013, 15:48 pm
@gunther-25354:
lol
17 Jan 2013, 15:53 pm
@Transformation-25333:
that’s a joke right?
not talking about the insignia either.
17 Jan 2013, 15:53 pm
When S.African pink-piggies shout that something, anything, is bad or ugly or unacceptable and lily white unpure, then the exact opposite has to be true and believed and accepted and applied(to the nth degree) by the genuine, true communities of S.Africa, and in their millions too.
In short, what is BAD for whites is most emphatically GOOD and WHOLESOME for All BLACKS.
That has now reached ‘FOLKLORE’ proportions and is an unwritten rule of the S.African nature.
So The WATSONIANS(not the Bo-Kaap club) of the Eastern Cape must be a threat to them ‘skollies’ for it must be GOOD and WHOLESOME and acceptable for millions, despite whatever the results may say, for history is what will be written and that is the important undeniable factor.
HATE on, while the rest enjoy your false, fake ride..
17 Jan 2013, 16:00 pm
And dopey-doggy-s h i t is, one more time, desperate, as she goes for the scraps while the FACTS are not ever, ever confronted or confounded.
The hallmark of emptiness. Even an empty brown packet is of greater woorth for it has much needed air and oxygen makes up at least 20% of that air.
Does she know that without oxygen her ATP levels will drop alarmingly?
But who cares for that will ensure the ‘git’ pegs off, but fast.
17 Jan 2013, 16:02 pm
@Skeppie-25262:
Skeppie
1. Tenderpreneurship: I don’t know if Cheeky’s companies are involved in this, but let us assume the affirmative for purposes hereof. Personally I’m in favour of AA & BEE in order to redress the injustices of the past, but I’m not in favour of tenderpreneurship as it is applied in South Africa. The point is this, tenderpreneurship as a method of advancement for segments of the previously disadvantaged communities does exist, and some are benefitting from it. That being the case, why can Cheeky’s (a previously disadvantaged person, albeit a white one, that identified, played & worked with the disadvantaged masses) companies not also benefit from tenderpreneurship if the opportunity presents itself? Must Cheeky & his family suffer under all regimes, then and now? Besides, his companies might not be “white” companies – there may be shareholders & directors of other races in those companies. But for me the clincher is this: these are purely socio-political considerations: I do not believe it is proper to deny anybody his place in the sun purely on socio-political grounds. I don’t despise the super-rich’s involvement in sport, nor a communist, nor a one-time gangster who graced the wing for the Springboks, etc. Tenderpreneurship is not a sporting consideration & I don’t believe Cheeky as Sports Administrator should be judged on that or for his (presumed) support of the ANC.
2. Springbok emblem: I am also emotionally attached to the Springbok emblem, & would for personal, selfish reasons not like to see it go. But there is no denying the reality that for a very long time the majority of South Africans (including whites) saw the Springbok as the emblem representing the pinnacle of white-only sport. Hence I can understand the resentment towards the Springbok as emblem for non-racial rugby in a new South Africa. I don’t for one moment believe the Springbok to be a unifying emblem (how does an emblem of white exclusivity unify)? It was an act of incredible reconciliation towards & accommodation of white folk for the powers that be to grant rugby the continued use of the Springbok emblem. We should be grateful. Nevertheless, I can understand why people like Cheeky campaign against the Springbok, & indeed resent that emblem. My attitude is this: I treasure the Springbok, but will not oppose its demise, & will give the Protea the same loyal support if it should become SA Rugby’s new emblem. With respect, I think my sentiments on this topic might be more in tune with that of the South African majority than yours. Given this background, how can one begrudge Cheeky his right to campaign in accordance with his conscience?
3. As for Cheeky trying to secure a place for Luke in the Springbok team – I do not know that to be true or false. Snor said many things, & I have difficulty believing some of the things he said. But if Cheeky did so, I strongly disapprove of that based on rugby & ethical considerations. But I do not believe that that is enough to write off the man given his & his brothers’ pioneering actions for the benefit of non-racial rugby in South Africa.
{As an aside, I believe that during Jake White’s tenure as Bok coach Luke was already good enough to be a fairly regular selection as Bok loose forward, but Jake overlooked him on what could only be non-rugby considerations; this must have caused further resentment}.
4. “He brings race into everything” – Ah, please that is a meaningless, emotive, unsubstantiated averment, not deserving any further reply.
5. He “disrespects all afrikaners in a general sense (clearly showing he is a racist himself) and just seems to be an all round douchebag” – I am an Afrikaner in the sense that my mother tongue was Afrikaans, I attended Afrikaans schools, an Afrikaans church & my first university was predominantly Afrikaans. But I don’t feel that Cheeky disrespects me. “all Afrikaners”? – There’s no such thing. Afrikaners are not homogeneous. Hendrik Verwoerd & PW Botha were Afrikaners. But so were Beyers Naude, Frederick van Zyl Slabbert, Eugene Terre Blanche, & many more that one could not confine to a single stereotype. “all round douchebag” – that’s just an emotive opinion, but it’s your prerogative to express such.
{As an aside, it was an aim of the Afrikaner Broederbond to control SA Rugby for socio-political reasons and they eventually managed to do so; I can elaborate on this, but it is an entirely separate, lengthy & interesting topic. I suspect this is the reason for Cheeky & Luke’s resentment towards Afrikaner control of rugby. Also, you must remember that the Watsons suffered under the hands of the Security Police, and at the time most of them were Afrikaners, I can vouch for that}.
Look, I have not met Cheeky (& have no brief to speak for him), I don’t know if I’d like him, (& I suspect not) – but I’m surely not going to hate him like several people clearly do. Cheeky was a very good rugby player & for reasons of conscience he sacrificed potential highest honour; he did well for SA Rugby all those decades ago; more recently he rectified the shambles that was EP Rugby & he is seemingly in the process of turning it around. I respect him for that & wish that more white South Africans would do so. I think most others already do.
17 Jan 2013, 16:02 pm
@charo: no joke…environmentally friendly…
17 Jan 2013, 16:04 pm
@Peter Mkata-25356:
Hey Pete, you got to love the advent of the ‘Watsonians’ of the Eastern Cape rugby adventure into the unknown?
Can you ever believe how angry these LIARS are at Super rugby in eBhayi?
17 Jan 2013, 16:05 pm
@Transformation-25365:
What do I say to Koleka, and others?
I have her email address.
17 Jan 2013, 16:08 pm
@Angostura-25364: HEAR HEAR.
17 Jan 2013, 16:12 pm
@Transformation-25365:
sorry….
but no such car exists?
not talking about the environment now.
17 Jan 2013, 16:14 pm
@ET.-25367: who?
17 Jan 2013, 16:15 pm
@charo-25369: a Yaris Spirit exists!
17 Jan 2013, 16:17 pm
@Angostura-25364:
In the olden days, people like you (if you are White) would be called K A F F I R Boeties. Good education all the same to those who want to have oog klappies removed!!
17 Jan 2013, 16:26 pm
@gunther-25358:
This whole Kings/Watson saga is going to be pretty divisive for your rugby, why would anyone who administers your rugby want to even go anywhere near a situation like this, crazy stuff. Can’t help but think this will be beneficial for our title chances.
17 Jan 2013, 16:29 pm
@Angostura-25364:
In addition Cheeky is hated because he lived his Chritian values of treating everyone as equal and obviously that was in collision with the apartheid laws. A White person that was in opposition was seen as atraitor and Cheeky was not spared that. Some bloggers here hate him for trying to be a person who respected everyone and obviously are still indoctrinated.
Dr Craven said in the past: no Black person would be a Springbok in his life. But he changed his views later in his life. He was just a victim of his surroundings and time because it was an acceptable thing those times.
So some of the whwite folks get angry and defensive when these things are brought to their attention.
We are going to remove the oog klappies bit by bit.
17 Jan 2013, 16:34 pm
@Transformation-25370:
See post #25351
17 Jan 2013, 16:35 pm
@ET.-25366:
Hatred and misplaced sense of being betrayed as a race ET. Many White people hate him but they will never give a proper reason thereof because they are afraid of being exposed. They are products of propaganda from home and society in general.
Fortunately there are many who are not like that.
17 Jan 2013, 16:42 pm
@Peter Mkata-25372: Yes, Peter
As a young man (student) I had 2 serious girlfriends. Both of them had occasion to call me K-boetie, & both threatened to terminate our relationships because of my political persuasion. Fortunately the second lass relented, has come round (somewhat) to my way of thinking & is now my wife of 30 years standing already.
K-boetie – that was the insult I hated most – because it implied that you were a traitor. The “laager” is immensely powerful, one wouldn’t know how powerful if you had not been there yourself.
17 Jan 2013, 16:45 pm
@NZINCHINA-25373:
Lots of crazy this in our society due mainly to the legacies of the past. It will take time/generations to end. There is a lot of bitterness around!! They manifest itself every now and then be it in sport, politics and on this blog. We try to paper over it ……..
17 Jan 2013, 16:47 pm
@Dawn-25128:
> Why is Extraballas so obsessed with Lance
He jealous of Lance’s lack of balls
He could never get his three testicles to fit inside cycling shorts
17 Jan 2013, 16:53 pm
@Peter Mkata-25378:
It’s amazing you’re still able to compete.at the highest level.
17 Jan 2013, 16:54 pm
@Angostura-25377:
2 girlfriends at the same time. Zuma tendencies!! LOL
White Farmers who treated their workforce in a civilized manner were never spared of that vilification. I am talking of wife serving them, driving with in front sit etc. Can you believe it?
17 Jan 2013, 17:00 pm
@nortierd-25330: Look nothing is going to help Francois’ terrible box kicking!
17 Jan 2013, 17:03 pm
@Peter Mkata-25381: no, no!
2 serious girlfriends I said, not dalliances!
serious girlfriends are in succession, not contemporaneous
OK, ciao, Peter, I must take the trip home, & the wife phoned to say I must buy some wine
17 Jan 2013, 17:05 pm
@Peter Mkata-25376:
Unfortunately there are too many like that and too many also now double as pretending to be non-racial when, in fact, their words and deeds(more importantly) shows the opposite.
Just arrived back in the USA on Sunday after once again experiencing the S.Africa I know so very well, from the bad, mostly, but also some good all over.
Conflict will, however, be on the increase as the lines are clearly drawn between the Haves and the many millions of Have-nots.
17 Jan 2013, 17:09 pm
@Peter Mkata-25356: Fair point, in fact we are kinda saying the same thing….don’t back Cheeky just because he is pro black….also don’t back any white person becasue they are pro white….back the right person for the right job regardless of race. In terms of history white people have a whole lot to answer for…this discussion was just about Cheeky specifically.
17 Jan 2013, 17:11 pm
@Angostura-25364: respect….
17 Jan 2013, 17:12 pm
@nortierd-25323:
> Hougard, who’s main claim to fame is having a bad hair day every day and having a certain Mrs. Fish as a conquest, may drive an Audi R8, but the vehicles the Watson’s drive is an issue?
Hougie’s sponsor, a hair products company, gave him the Audi for being their product spokesman
If Watson bought it with EP’s money it’s no biggie because and CEO gets benefits including a car BUT if the club is bankrupt it probably shouldn’t be the most expensive car and rather what they could afford
17 Jan 2013, 17:16 pm
@Skeppie-25382:
Maybe a new rule introducing a 20 meter gap between the scrumhalf and opposing players wanting to charge down his kicks, or alternatively he must play Bulletjie rugby then he should clear the opposing players’ heads.
Getting those that work to land where intended, that would prove slightly more difficult.
17 Jan 2013, 17:19 pm
@victoriabok-25387:
If his hair is famous enough to warrant an Audi R8 then it explains why I saw Lambie peddling a bicycle on the bluff. Having dandruff obviously doesn’t pay.
17 Jan 2013, 17:21 pm
@victoriabok-25387: by the look of things you would only be happy if Cheecky took the Golden Arrow bus….
17 Jan 2013, 17:24 pm
@nortierd-25323:
> Hougard, who’s main claim to fame is having a bad hair day every day and
Jy’s reg daar, hy’t nie veel anders gedoen nie
> having a certain Mrs. Fish as a conquest
Daar’s nie ‘n manier dat jy met ‘n girl genaamd “Fish” uitgaan nie
Ek ruik al die Redro
17 Jan 2013, 17:26 pm
@Angostura-25364: Wow, that is one seriously well written and well thought out reply.
I concede that emotion comes into my thinking as well as unsubstantiated statements but that is what having an opinion is all about.
In terms of tenderpreneurship I have no concrete evidence but have “heard a lot of things” this does not make Cheeky guilty so it’s purely an opinion, that said my answer to your question is no…..just because he is a so called PDI (Which is rubbish, I doubt he grew up in a township wondering where he next meal would come from) does not earn him the right to tenders he cannot fulfill….basics of economics….if we give business to cadres to right the wrongs of the past our economy will simply fail (again he may not have been involved at all).
In terms of the Bok emblem, why can the symbol not unite? Yes racist whites used to see the bok emblem as theirs but why can that not change? The Bok emblem is now a completley new symbol as is the bok team.
Maybe my comment about his attitude to Afrikaners was out of line….I am a soutie but feel that afrikaners should not be disparaged just because of the past. I was obviously talking about white afrikaners (not sure which type you are) and the Watsons attitude to white afrikaners specifically. I have heard dear Luke’s attitude to white afrikaners first hand and it is clearly a theme in the family.
In closing….I refuse to allow my own inherent white guilt to overrule injustice when I see it, what people of my skin colour did to all people not of my skin colour historically in this country was heinous and for that I will always have some kind of guilt but this is a new country where we are all supposedley equal and being positive to someone just because he backs your skin colour class cannot be healthy….hence my diatribe on Cheeky.
17 Jan 2013, 17:30 pm
@grant10-25390:
Nope, read it again
Smaak my daai Speedo sit te styf na die Kersseisoen en dit sny die bloed toevoer na jou ander brein toe af
I said nothing wrong with the CEO getting a company car or car allowance in line what the company can afford
If the Kings can afford it Cheeky can drive a Maybach for all I care, after all it would still be cheaper for them than Pukie’s contract
17 Jan 2013, 17:32 pm
@Peter Mkata-25374: But that is 100% wrong…I dislike Cheeky because he is a racist now and does not treat everyone equally. Or are white afrikaners not people? Oog klappies need to be removed on all sides.
17 Jan 2013, 17:34 pm
@nortierd-25388: Or maybe when we decide to actually run with the pill he will have a place again.
17 Jan 2013, 17:37 pm
@NZINCHINA-25373:
Politics in SA has been beneficial towards NZ rugby for the last 20 years.
17 Jan 2013, 17:39 pm
@nortierd-25389:
His bad boy with the hair and tats appeal to the young generation buying those products and that’s why they’ve picked him
Lambie’s appeal would be to middle aged ladies who want to baby him (nurse him?), he should get a sponsorship from a female hygiene company like Poise or Vagifresh
Tampax is out, they’re already sponsoring Luke
17 Jan 2013, 17:39 pm
@Transformation-25359:
why would you say this, Transie?
why?
this is heartbreaking, really.
i made a stupid comment about Hashim’s beard and his wifes clothing which was absolutely idiotic and ridiculous, and for which i have apologised.
i have apologised for each and every stupid thing i have said on this blog, to each and every person affected, numerous times.
when i scoll back and look at some of the things i have said i am deeply remorseful and feel like a complete fool for saying it.
i am sorry for some of the stupid things i have said, but you are pushing me over the edge now.
why would you do this?
what have i done to you?
this has been a bad week for me, Transie
i am on medication, man!
17 Jan 2013, 17:40 pm
@grant10-25390:
By the look of it you’d be very happy to give Cheeky and his boy one of your famous Golden Showers?
17 Jan 2013, 17:44 pm
@ET.-25355:
Says he with the Green Card/ blue passport with the eagle on the cover
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