Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.
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17 Jan 2013, 20:34 pm
@victoriabok-25446:
“And who says your opinion ARE worth anything”.
You in Canada now. You must learn to speak the language properly.
When you retaliate to a person of colours comment you always use tik or crack as a comeback. That is not acceptable in my book.
17 Jan 2013, 20:34 pm
@wnbb-25448:
I was a cop like Nortie
17 Jan 2013, 20:39 pm
@blue and white stripes-25451:
> When you retaliate to a person of colours comment you always use tik or crack as a comeback.
If you bring race into it I’ll use it, after all you called me white trailer trash
17 Jan 2013, 20:39 pm
It’s always interesting to note how they come on here embracing diversity.Give them a few weeks and all that fake persona disappears.It’s easy to note that also.When they feel cornered in debates with black bloggers they normally start with the generalisations as a form of attack…similar to what our SADF boytjie has been doing the last few weeks.
17 Jan 2013, 20:39 pm
@wnbb-25448:
i was conscripted into the sadf – around the time that skoppie was there.
funnily enough, the late jinx was posted near to my barracks a few years later.
does that make us all anti non-white racists?
or worse, doggie molesters?
17 Jan 2013, 20:41 pm
@victoriabok-25452:
You are not like Nortie.
Nortie is a decent guy.
Holiha, you must have moered a few “communist” with a sjambok in your day.
17 Jan 2013, 20:44 pm
@blue and white stripes-25456:
Nope, but bring one and I’ll try it on you
Never too old to learn
17 Jan 2013, 20:46 pm
@WP-GamTotdiedood25129:
Daai site van gister en hierdie pos nou, weet jy dus die tiende(10de)keer in minder as vyf jaar dat jy dit herhaal.
Het jy niks nuut nie om te gebruik of is daar ‘n gebrek van waardevolle FEITE om my mee te probeer stil maak en hou?
Stale is worn out and empty and useless after 3 times of usage.
Just advice but I understand your desperation and your dire need for me to see your limp, raised, hand screaming Professor , me Professor, give me a chance too.
17 Jan 2013, 20:51 pm
@victoriabok-25457:
Somehow I don’t believe you.
You must have fired rubber bullets/live ammunition at a crowd in the 80′s.. You mentioned that your time in SAPS training was way before Nortie and Nortie qualified in 1989.
17 Jan 2013, 20:52 pm
@blue and white stripes-25459:
86-88
17 Jan 2013, 20:58 pm
@charo-25455:
wnbb himself was in the Cape Corps
17 Jan 2013, 20:58 pm
Riot squad and army?No difference in my opinion.all just a buch of cold-blooded killers back in the days.
17 Jan 2013, 20:58 pm
THE BEAT GOES ON INTO NEXT WEEK
WORKERS need concrete offer: union:
Jan 17 2013
Cape Town – Western Cape farmers need to offer something tangible to their workers to halt a strike over wages and land, a trade union said on Thursday.
“Part of the ‘hard-sell’ to workers should be to sell a concrete tangible, be it commitment to genuinely negotiate, with processes/timelines and ‘ball-park’ figures, or an understanding on an improved offer on the table,” Food and Allied Workers’ Union (Fawu) general secretary Katishi Masemola said.
He said the union noted the call by Cosatu in the Western Cape on Wednesday for a week-long suspension of the strike. Workers want a coherent land reform programme and a daily wage of R150.
“We believe workers must be consulted and canvassed with, as we cannot treat them like a tap to be switched on and off,” Masemola said.
He called on farmers to make meaningful individual commitments to higher wages with their workers.
The strike started last year and was suspended in December. It resumed last Wednesday in various towns in the province.
Since then, there had been at least 20 complaints of brutality by workers against the police, farmers, and private security companies. The SA Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) was probing reports of police brutality, racism and inhumane living and working conditions.
SAHRC officials were visiting the affected areas, including De Doorns, to gather information on the cases and help people lodge complaints.
On Monday, spaza shop worker Letsekang Tlokoane, 25, died when he was allegedly shot with rubber bullets in De Doorns.
The same day, a 10-year-old girl was apparently shot in the eye with a rubber bullet.
Masemola called for the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (Ipid) to investigate Tlokoane’s death and place all witnesses in a protection programme.
“The life of an innocent person… cannot be regarded as cheap, especially given allegations that he was ‘kidnapped’ from a spaza shop he was working at, assaulted, shot point-blank range, and dumped in a ditch.”
Ipid spokesman Moses Dlamini said he had received from the SAHRC numerous cases involving the police, mostly of assault and the use of rubber bullets at close range, which were being investigated.
Police were also investigating the torching of the Sandrivier Estate fruit packing warehouse outside Wellington in the early hours of Wednesday.
Estate owner Jan le Roux told Sapa the warehouse went up in flames around 2.30am.
“We packed plums there, with about 220 crates of plums a day or 500,000 cartons a season, which is about six months,” he said.
“We have already organised new pack houses where we will pack for the season. About 300 to 350 people worked there and they will keep their jobs.”
The estate was built in 1996 as part of a job-creation exercise, following discussions with then water affairs and forestry minister Kader Asmal.
Le Roux said police were trying to determine who was responsible for the fire. – Sapa
17 Jan 2013, 21:00 pm
@victoriabok-25461: haha.Keep up with that kuk story.
17 Jan 2013, 21:01 pm
@wnbb-25454:
> embracing diversity
In the eye of the beholder eh?
If someone disagree with your opinion he’s not”embracing diversity” I guess?
So if we disagree with your “dog lovin ways” we’re probably also not “embracing diversity”?
17 Jan 2013, 21:02 pm
@wnbb-25462:
> No difference in my opinion
An opinion is like an ar.sehole, everyone has one
17 Jan 2013, 21:03 pm
@victoriabok-25460:
Cool. VB maybe your real life persona is not the one you portray on this site but please think before you ink in future.
Sorry for calling you”stupid white trailer park” it was posted in anger after I read a few of your previous post.
Hope the Bulle get on their moer this year.
I’m out. I’ll be back in a few months time when the Stormers are top of the log.
Cheers.
17 Jan 2013, 21:04 pm
@blue and white stripes-25459: He served in the old riot squad.Probably unit 1,the trained killers of the riot squad unit.Responsible for third force activities.That fact was confirmed to me by a black member of that unit in 1993.
17 Jan 2013, 21:04 pm
@wnbb-25462:
> Riot squad and army?No difference just a buch of cold-blooded killers back in the days.
MK and APLA, No difference just a buch of cold-blooded killers back in the days
17 Jan 2013, 21:06 pm
@wnbb-25468:
Unit 1 was in Cape Town, I’m from Pretoria remember?
You’d laugh if I tell you where I was stationed, not close to the sharp end at all
17 Jan 2013, 21:09 pm
@blue and white stripes-25467:
No worries, no harm no foul
I think it will be a fight between the Stormers/Sharks this year
Our team is still young and unsettled, you need 22 experienced players to win this
The Kiwis will also come out firing
17 Jan 2013, 21:16 pm
25,450 and still running……..
Wtihout drugs of course!!
17 Jan 2013, 21:20 pm
@carol-25472:
No Oprah either!
17 Jan 2013, 21:28 pm
@victoriabok-25473:
I understand Opra did not quite get the disclosures she was hoping for!!
Lance was never going to break down and weep for her either, he is as hard as nails!
17 Jan 2013, 21:32 pm
@carol-25474:
Yeah, it’s all publicity for him, any publicity is good publicity
The fallen hero returns
With a new foundation
Liestrong or Dopestrong
17 Jan 2013, 21:33 pm
@blue and white stripes-25467:
“I’m out. I’ll be back in a few months time when the Stormers are top of the log.”
Cheers, I’ll drink to that.
17 Jan 2013, 21:35 pm
@victoriabok-25470: I@victoriabok-25470: I am talking about your one.Probably got the numbers wrong.ten or one…doesn’t matter either way.the fact of the matter is that you were part of a force that brutalised black people in townships.
17 Jan 2013, 21:46 pm
Plans to nationalise mines: ANC
January 17 2013 at 08:47pm
Amcu: nationalise Amplats
The government should nationalise Anglo American Platinum if it continues with the proposed retrenchment of 14,000 workers, trade union AMCU said on Thursday.
“If Anglo persists with the retrenchments, it’s a window for government to take those mines and nationalise them,” Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union president Joseph Mathunjwa told reporters in Johannesburg.
“See if nationalisation will work on a small scale. The issue of retrenchments is just a drop in the water.”
Anglo American Platinum (Amplats) announced this week it could cut up to 14,000 jobs, close four shafts and sell a mine considered unsustainable.
Mathunjwa expressed shock at the announcement.
“We were shocked on Tuesday…. This is very unacceptable,” he said.
“We all know the country is facing a high number of unemployment. Now for Anglo Platinum to shed so many jobs is a sign of not putting the interest of this country at heart.”
The union would hold a meeting in Rustenburg to discuss and plan the way forward.
Mathunjwa said it was important for the government to step in to find “amicable solutions” to the problems facing the mining sector and the economy at large.
“We cannot let these foreign investors do as they please with our mineral resources,” he said.
“It is high time now that we as a nation stand together and find ways of ensuring that our mineral resources benefit the people of South Africa.”
He said Amcu represented about 26,000 Amplats employees.
On Tuesday, workers embarked on a strike and refused to go underground following the company’s announcement that about 14,000
jobs could be lost by its plan to stop production at four of its shafts in Rustenburg.
The announcement came after Harmony Gold said it was suspending operations at its Kusasalethu mine in Carletonville to review operations after several illegal strikes.
On Wednesday night, Amplats miners returned to work and abandoned their illegal strike, the company said.
Mathunjwa described the situation at Harmony Gold as tense.
He said when workers returned to work on January 3, the gates were closed and they were told the mine was shut down until further notice.
Miners were denied access into the mine hostel and many slept outside the gates, he said.
Amcu took the matter to the High Court in Johannesburg, to obtain an urgent interdict granting access to the hostels. The matter will be heard on January 22. – Sapa
17 Jan 2013, 21:48 pm
@wnbb-25477: @wnbb-25477:
If conscripts refused to serve as conscientious objectors, what would become of them?…..
17 Jan 2013, 21:58 pm
@Te Rangatira-25479:
they went to jail.
sad thing is TR, we talking about 17 and 18 year olds here, pretty much kids themselves.
wnnb is referring to the different riot units that was in the police, eg. unit 19 was in Pretoria, each province had there own units with various numbers.
believe me, those units were a punishment to get sent to when one finished college, it wasn’t voluntary. You were assigned where they wanted you to go.
guys were crappin g themselves before final pass out in case they were sent to unit 19.
17 Jan 2013, 22:01 pm
@Te Rangatira-25479: sorry for the copy and paste job.At first they allowed conscientious objectors ,but,after 1974,they basically done away with it.It was either army or on your bike out of the country.
Those who refused military service were subject to contempt from the minority white community, and left with the choice of either going underground (internal exile) fleeing the republic (external exile) or imprisonment of up to double the length of the allotted military service. Many conscripts simply went Absent Without Leave (AWOL), failed to arrive at BASICS (training) or got lost in the system.
The End Conscription Campaign, one of many anti-war movements alongside Congress of South African War Resistors (COSAWR) mobilised against the draft, promoted alternatives to military service, provided information about the situation in the townships and support to those brave enough to speak out against the war, as conscientious objectors.
17 Jan 2013, 22:05 pm
@nortierd-25480:
Yes, I thought that would be the outcome. My Father just missed conscription for the army as he was one day off with his birthday, otherwise he may have ended up in Vietnam, but I think you had to volunteer if you wanted to go there.
17 Jan 2013, 22:05 pm
@nortierd-25480: Thanks Nortierd.I got lost with my numbers.
. In any case I really don’t want to get into an argument with Vicbok about the past.I actually enjoy most of his banter late evenings.
17 Jan 2013, 22:06 pm
@Te Rangatira-25479:
Two years national service or four or more in the Detention Barracks, the Army’s prison, you didn’t want to go there
Later on they could do foru or five office work without doing training or wearing an uniform especially those with religious objections
A lot of objectors did go to London as well and some joined the ANC’s military wing
They were crafty these farking Nats, everyone had to go, and they sent all the teachers to Oudshoorn to do officer training
Then those same teachers would go back to teach after two years and run their compulsary military cadet program in high school from standard 6(grade 8)
Once a week you had a cadets and you had to march in your brown shirt, shorts and beret
You also had to register for military service at 16 and it was organised at school by guess who?
The teachers of course
17 Jan 2013, 22:07 pm
@Te Rangatira-25482:
I knew the Aussies went there but I only saw the other day that the Kiwis went as well
17 Jan 2013, 22:08 pm
@wnbb-25483:
lol, all good.
17 Jan 2013, 22:10 pm
@nortierd-25480:
> You were assigned where they wanted you to go.
guys were crappin g themselves before final pass out in case they were sent to unit 19.
I was at Komatipoort with some Unit 19 guys, they were very tense, well trained but tense
Their training was brutal and nearly on par with the task force
17 Jan 2013, 22:11 pm
@victoriabok-25484:
jeez, I hated cadets.
Usually on Fridays.
We got caned if our hair was too long.
on the other hand, the discipline aspect was good, especially looking at some of today’s youth.
17 Jan 2013, 22:11 pm
@wnbb-25483:
I enjoy it too but I’m at work
17 Jan 2013, 22:12 pm
I am actually looking forward to the 22nd Feb.Maybe the Bulls will surprise us wearing their pink outfit again.They can always say that they are doing it for cancer.
17 Jan 2013, 22:13 pm
@nortierd-25488:
Yes, they used it as an excuse to cane you
Normally the shop teachers could hit the hardest
Houtwerk en Metaalwerk onderwysers (woodwork and metal shop teachers) were always the most feared
17 Jan 2013, 22:14 pm
@wnbb-25490:
I will be there at Loftus in my new Stormer jersey.
Hope for a good outcome, to hell with 4 tries, I just want the win.
17 Jan 2013, 22:16 pm
@victoriabok-25491:
the woodwork teacher didn’t even use a cane, there was always a nice big piece of wood lying around to moer you with.
17 Jan 2013, 22:18 pm
@wnbb-25481:
> The End Conscription Campaign, one of many anti-war movements
They were normally older guys, already finished with university
If you’re a 18 year old out of school you didn’t know anything and was trained to do as you’re told since you were small
17 Jan 2013, 22:22 pm
@nortierd-25493: Woodwork teachers are mal donners it seem.I had one in high school that did the same thing..After standard 7 I could not wait to drop the flippin subject….totally traumatised
17 Jan 2013, 22:22 pm
@nortierd-25493:
Our woodshop teacher used to have a plank, looked like a big flat cricket bat
It numbed you as the first blow but afterwards when the feeling returned it burned like hell
17 Jan 2013, 22:24 pm
@wnbb-25481:
Thanks for that mate. Some time ago I had a lovely neighbour and his family from Capetown living next to me. Wonderful chap, pretty much reserved. As I got to know him he told me of the sad plight of his people and of his hatred towards whites.He told me he needed to leave otherwise he was going to lose it and end up in jail for murder, yet he was a true gentlemen.
17 Jan 2013, 22:24 pm
@wnbb-25490:
> Maybe the Bulls will surprise us wearing their pink outfit again
We won’t wear the pink shorts again, we’ll ONLY wear the shirt, you’ll be surprised
17 Jan 2013, 22:29 pm
@wnbb-25495:
lol, I dropped out after standard 6, took typing in std 7, 3 boys in a class with 28 girls.
didn’t help much, still only 2 fingers to type
17 Jan 2013, 22:30 pm
@victoriabok-25498: They can wear their nighties for all I care ,as long as they don’t surprise us on the scoreboard.
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