Hore set for hefty ban
26 Nov 2012
New Zealand hooker Andrew Hore has been cited for an off-the-ball incident which subsequently hospitalised Wales lock Bradley Davies.
Hore hit Davies off the ball during the initial stages of last Saturday’s Test in Cardiff. The incident was missed by matchday officials, but Hore has now been cited and looks likely to receive a lengthy suspension.
The time and date of the hearing, before the IRB’s appointed independent judicial officer, have yet to be fixed.
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen expects the hooker to be sidelined for some time. Hansen did not say as much, but has already called for a replacement ahead of the coming Test against England.
Dane Coles is expected to start at Twickenham.
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18 Jan 2013, 15:54 pm
@TooMuchRugby-25646:
You have issues my friend.
I can recommend a good doctor in Philadelphia.
18 Jan 2013, 15:55 pm
How is this place like Facebook???
18 Jan 2013, 15:57 pm
@gunther-25648: KING 10 EC rulz
18 Jan 2013, 15:57 pm
@ryecatcher-25649:
watsup Rye
18 Jan 2013, 15:58 pm
Do we have a new blog Nazi
18 Jan 2013, 15:59 pm
@Dawn-25652:
Too Much Buggery is just upset that Keo won’t let him upload photos of his new hamster.
18 Jan 2013, 15:59 pm
@JockBok-25651:
Dr. Phil?
18 Jan 2013, 16:03 pm
@Dawn-25654: Hello my girl.All good
Hope you have a fantastic day/weekend.Kind regards
18 Jan 2013, 16:05 pm
@TooMuchRugby-25657:
Dr John, aka ET. Keo’s resident expert on all things medical.
He’ll even teach you a bit of Latin as well.
18 Jan 2013, 16:06 pm
@Transformation-25653: \
You wait until you see the pimped Piccanto,
18 Jan 2013, 16:06 pm
@Dawn-25652:
It’s not. But would you mind helping me in Farmville by buying my horse?
18 Jan 2013, 16:08 pm
@ryecatcher-25649:
Yes Rye, hope he pulls through. Schalk will offer the Stormers that extra edge they lacked during last years campaign and maybe they will go all the way this time.
Looking forward to this years Superrugby season. I don’t enjoy the northern hemisphere club rugby played at the moment.
18 Jan 2013, 16:08 pm
PHILADELPHIA.Literally the city of brotherly love
18 Jan 2013, 16:08 pm
@JockBok-25651: eina…however churlish a blogger is nobody deserves to be mindpomped by ExtraBallas.
18 Jan 2013, 16:09 pm
@JockBok-25659:
alea iacta est
18 Jan 2013, 16:09 pm
@JockBok-25661:
After you perving all the ladies in Senegal?
I think not!
18 Jan 2013, 16:09 pm
Not a bad concept
18 Jan 2013, 16:10 pm
@JockBok-25659:
Dr Piel.
18 Jan 2013, 16:11 pm
@Transformation-25664:
What? Churlish? I’ve got excellent manners thank you.
18 Jan 2013, 16:13 pm
@ryecatcher-25658: And leave Firemans
intact
18 Jan 2013, 16:14 pm
@ryecatcher-25663:
Philadelphia, PA or Philadelphia, WC ?
18 Jan 2013, 16:14 pm
@TooMuchRugby-25650:
18 Jan 2013, 16:17 pm
@Jeraldjay-25662: Impressed by NH
forward play.Think Oz will be killed by Lions
18 Jan 2013, 16:21 pm
@TooMuchRugby-25671: LOL unanswerable but concept should apply wherever
18 Jan 2013, 16:29 pm
How many Philadelphias are there
18 Jan 2013, 16:31 pm
@TooMuchRugby-25665: “The die has been cast” if I can recall my Latin from the late 1970s — which one will that be now ?
18 Jan 2013, 16:34 pm
@Dawn-25675:
I like Philadelphia on toast. Does that count
And how dare you accuse me of perving!!!
@TooMuchRugby-25665:
I admit I googled that. Should I be offended?
18 Jan 2013, 16:45 pm
@gunther-25668:
post coitum omne animal triste est sive gallus et mulie
18 Jan 2013, 16:46 pm
@JockBok-25677:
omnis traductor traditor
18 Jan 2013, 16:51 pm
@CharlesM-25676:
silentium est aureum
18 Jan 2013, 16:51 pm
Okay, getting a bit too cryptic for me and I think you are a bit too advanced, just like Dr John. He’s still struggling with English and makes a lot of howlers, but his Latin is faultless.
Did you get my friend request?
18 Jan 2013, 16:55 pm
nunc est bibendum
18 Jan 2013, 16:57 pm
You know, googling all of these phrases, it’s quite amazing how many you ‘know’ after you’ve seen what they mean, if you know what I mean.
18 Jan 2013, 17:00 pm
@JockBok-25681:
I think he’s showing off
I hate showoffs
18 Jan 2013, 17:01 pm
Wait till I get home
Will haul out my “Extreme Latin” phrasebook
18 Jan 2013, 17:04 pm
@Dawn-25685:
Get your corpus in gear girl.
Aaaaaannnndddd…..on topic, does anyone know where I can find a list of the pre-season games taking place?
18 Jan 2013, 17:08 pm
Amo Amas Amant…
18 Jan 2013, 17:09 pm
@BrumbiesBoy-25687: Wrong!
Amo Amas Amat (Amut?)
18 Jan 2013, 17:12 pm
Amamus Amatus Amant…
18 Jan 2013, 17:18 pm
et tu Brute ( think it means ” eina, donder, daai mes was skerp )
18 Jan 2013, 17:21 pm
The HYENA-PACK notwithstanding, it all sticks and stones boys, just sticks and stones. But recall, though, that names and lies never hurt the tough ones with the knowledge that CANNOT be confronted and/or confounded.
Address the FACTS, boys, but always and only(to do telling damage).
The theme of this vile, sanctimonious, arse-slapping (thanks to doggy-s h it’s ‘poppers’) thread is:
SMALL THINGS AMUSE SMALL- MINDED MORONS (my contribution, thanks to my jaunts and works in S.A. is, < 0.00001%.)
18 Jan 2013, 17:22 pm
@nortierd-25690:
“Jy’s te groot” in die Stormers stort?
18 Jan 2013, 17:22 pm
@nortierd-25690:
18 Jan 2013, 17:32 pm
@ET.-25691:
You deserve everything you get for being such a disingenuous fraud.
Go cry somewhere else.
18 Jan 2013, 17:46 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-24322: Hey Bakkies.I have cried lots of times.Not unmanly
18 Jan 2013, 17:47 pm
More much needed EDUCATION, on matters ethical, for the imbeciles, but only a small clip from the interview :
Lance Armstrong & Oprah Winfrey: cyclist sorry for doping
Lance Armstrong has ended years of denials by admitting he used performance-enhancing drugs during all seven of his Tour de France wins.
The 41-year-old confessed during his interview with chat show host Oprah Winfrey in front of a worldwide television audience.
“I view this situation as one big lie I repeated a lot of times,” he said. “I made those decisions, they were my mistake and I’m here to say sorry.”
However the American denied it was “sport’s biggest doping programme”, saying “it was smart, but it was conservative, risk averse”.
The interview with Winfrey, 58, was broadcast on prime time television on her OWN network in America, and was streamed worldwide through her website.
The tens of millions watching saw Armstrong reveal:
he took performance-enhancing drugs in each of his Tour wins from 1999-2005
doping was “part of the process required to win the Tour”
he did not feel he was cheating at the time and viewed it as a “level playing field”
he did not fear getting caught
“all the fault and blame” should lie with him
he was a bully who “turned on” people he did not like
his cancer fight in the mid-1990s gave him a “win-at-all costs” attitude
he would now co-operate with official inquiries into doping in cycling
In response the US Anti-Doping Agency (Usada) called for Armstrong to detail “under oath” the full extent of his doping.
Cycling’s governing body the UCI welcomed Armstrong’s decision “to come clean and confess”, and said the interview had confirmed it was not part of a “collusion or conspiracy”.
Last year Armstrong was stripped of his Tour de France titles after being labelled a “serial cheat” by Usada.
In a detailed report, the body said he led “the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme sport has ever seen”.
The Texan decided not to contest the charges, saying last year he was tired of fighting the allegations. He had always strongly denied doping.
That all changed within seconds of an explosive opening to the interview when Winfrey, one of America’s top chat show hosts, demanded yes or no answers.
“Did you ever take banned substances to enhance cycling performance?”
“Yes.”
“Was one of those substances EPO?”
“Yes.”
“Did you use any other banned substances?”
“Yes.”
In the interview, broadcast on the Discovery Channel in the UK, Armstrong then admitted to taking performance-enhancing drugs Erythropoietin (EPO), testosterone, cortisone and human growth hormone as well as having blood transfusions.
He continued: “All the fault and blame is on me and a lot of that is momentum and I lost myself in all that. I couldn’t handle it. The story is so bad and toxic and a lot of it is true.”
Asked if doping was part of the process required to win the Tour, he said: “That’s like saying we have to have air in our tyres or water in our bottles. It was part of the job.
“I don’t want to make any excuses, but that was my view and I made those decisions.”
In a key exchange Winfrey asked: “Did it feel wrong?
Armstrong replied: “No. Scary.”
“Did you feel bad?”
“No. Even scarier.”
“Did you feel that you were cheating?”
“No. The scariest.”
Armstrong continued: “The definition of a cheat is to gain an advantage on a rival or foe. I didn’t view it that way. I viewed it as a level playing field. I didn’t understand the magnitude of that. The important thing is that I’m beginning to understand it.
I see the anger in people, betrayal. It’s all there. People who believed in me and supported me and they have every right to feel betrayed and it’s my fault and I’ll spend the rest of my life trying to earn back trust and apologise to people.”
On whether it was the biggest doping programme in sport he said: “I didn’t have access to anything that anybody else didn’t.
“Winning races mattered for me but to say that programme was bigger than the East German doping programme of ’70s and ’80s is wrong.”
Armstrong said his battle with cancer in the mid-1990s turned him into a “fighter”.
“Before my diagnosis I was a competitor but not a fierce competitor,” he said. “I took that ruthless win-at-all-costs attitude into cycling which was bad.”
Armstrong denied riders had to comply to a doping programme to compete for his US Postal Service/Discovery Channel team, but admitted his personality could imply that.
He said: “Yes, I was a bully. I was a bully in the sense that I tried to control the narrative and if I didn’t like what someone said I turned on them.
“We felt like we had our backs against the wall and I was a fighter.”
Armstrong said he had not been afraid of getting caught. “Testing has evolved. Back then they didn’t come to your house and there was no testing out of competition and for most of my career there wasn’t that much out-of-competition testing so you’re not going to get caught because you clean up for the races.
“I didn’t fail a test. Retrospectively, I failed one. The hundreds of tests I took I passed them.”
However, he did admit that he received a back-dated therapeutic user exemption certificate for a cream containing steroids at the 1999 Tour to ensure he did not test positive.
Armstrong retired from cycling in 2005 but returned to the sport between 2009 and 2012.
He told Winfrey that he did not use drugs after his return to the sport. “That’s the only thing in that whole Usada report that really upset me,” he said.
Armstrong said he regretted his return, and was asked if he would have “got away with it” if he had not come back.
“Impossible to say,” he replied, but added his “chances would have been better”.
However, he conceded that when he discovered George Hincapie, who was the only man to ride in the same team as Armstrong for each of his seven Tour wins, had given evidence against him last year, he knew his “fate was sealed”.
“George is the most credible voice in all of this,” Armstrong added. “He did all seven Tours. We’re still great friends. I don’t fault George Hincapie, but George knows this story better than anybody.”
Armstrong said he would now co-operate with Usada. ” I love cycling and I say that knowing that people see me as someone who disrespected the sport, the colour yellow,” he said.
“If there was a truth and reconciliation commission – and I can’t call for that – and I’m invited I’ll be first man through the door.”
He went on to say that he wished he had complied with the Usada investigation. “I’d do anything to go back to that day,” he said.
“I wouldn’t fight, I wouldn’t sue them, I’d listen. I’d do a couple of things first.
“I’d say give me three days. Let me call my family, my mother, sponsors, [the Lance Armstrong Livestrong] foundation and I wish I could do that but I can’t.”
Asked if his former doctor Michele Ferrari, who was banned for life by Usada after being found guilty of numerous anti-doping violations, was the “mastermind”, Armstrong said: “No. I’m not comfortable talking about other people.
“I viewed Dr Michele Ferrari as a good man and I still do.”
He said he regretted “going on the attack” against masseuse Emma O’Reilly, who was an early whistleblower.
“She is one of these people that I have to apologise to,” he said. “She’s one of these people who got run over, got bullied.”
He denied making a $100,000 donation in 2005 to the UCI, to cover up a failed drugs test. “It was not in exchange for help,” he said. “They called. They didn’t have a lot of money. I did. They asked if I would make a donation so I did.
“That story [of a cover up] isn’t true. There was no positive test. There was no paying off of the lab. There was no secret meeting with the lab director. I’m no fan of the UCI. That did not happen.”
However, Armstrong refused to answer questions regarding allegations made by former team-mate Frankie Andreu and his wife Betsy. Frankie Andreu had admitted in 2006 to taking EPO before the 1999 Tour – Armstrong’s first victory.
The Andreus testified in 2006 that they heard Armstrong tell a cancer doctor that he had doped with EPO in 1996. Armstrong swore, under oath, that it did not happen.
He told Winfrey that he had a 40-minute telephone conversation with the Andreus but he was not prepared to reveal what was said.
18 Jan 2013, 18:02 pm
@victoriabok-24631: Hello Mister.
No message. Just nice to call you that
18 Jan 2013, 18:03 pm
@ET.-25696:
> More much needed EDUCATION,on matters ethical, for the imbeciles
Please elaborate and substantiate O Wise One?
Could you please send us links to some of your many scientific publications you blessed the world with?
After all any sceintist worth his salt has to publish often?
And proof of the “many degrees” you claim to have while you’re at it?
Otherwise you’ll just remain a boring fake with poor spelling
BTW this is a rugby site, we don’t care about cycling, doping or Lance Armstrong, no-one reads your s.hite so fark off
18 Jan 2013, 18:05 pm
@blue and white stripes-25456: Hi Pal.
You w ell?
18 Jan 2013, 18:07 pm
In typical fashion I note that interpretations and meanings are lost on gutter fools who cannot yet define what “cry” is.
Fortunately , in this case, that is not a price that South Africa has to pay for. That is some other country’s garbage.
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