Hore gets slap on wrist
28 Nov 2012
All Blacks hooker Andrew Hore has been given a five-week ban for striking Wales lock Bradley Davies with his arm, three of which will be pre-season.
Hore was found guilty of foul play on Wednesday and will not be able to play again until 24 February. He will miss New Zealand’s Test against England this Saturday, three weeks of pre-season and one round of Super Rugby.
The All Blacks have already called up Hika Elliot (who had been touring with the NZ Maori) to provide hooker cover.
Judicial officer Lorne Crerar of Scotland revealed that Hore’s eight-week ban had been reduced to five as the player had shown remorse and been in contact with Davies daily since the incident.
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28 Nov 2012, 16:48 pm
lucky hore..
28 Nov 2012, 16:49 pm
Very lucky hore
28 Nov 2012, 16:52 pm
What a joke!
28 Nov 2012, 16:54 pm
Dirty hore, he will be lying on his back for the next 5 weeks watching the other hooker playing with his ball
28 Nov 2012, 16:57 pm
Steven Hansen is a d00s for not apologizing and an arrogant doos, who remembers those signs he made for the camera after the beat the Boks in soweto.
All Blacks are dirty thugs.
Hope ENG wins.
28 Nov 2012, 17:03 pm
“Judicial officer Lorne Crerar of Scotland revealed that Hore would’ve been slapped with an eight-week ban, but the fact that the player has been in contact with Davies daily ever since the incident was taken into consideration”
Is this some kinda joke?
Hore: I bliskemed u.
Davies: why?
Hore: I don’t know, u felt it?
Davies: yes mate!
Hore: how sore was it?
Davies: very sore mate, I didn’t expect that!
Hore: nice to know, I’ve spending time shaving sheep and my biceps have swolen. I feel very strong now. with us kiwi’s u must expect the unexpected mate.
28 Nov 2012, 17:09 pm
the knee
to the
head
was much worse
than the
punch
it was
assault
with intent
and he should
have been
out
for a long
long
time
28 Nov 2012, 17:11 pm
O well, another game another incident done and dusted.
Now only Saturday to look forward to to see who moers who and what laughable sentence can be dished up.
HM does the praise after matches and the AB’s benefit from the Devine intervention, go figure
28 Nov 2012, 17:13 pm
@Porra-7: Precisely porra. That’s where the damage was done. And why would he drop to his knees well over a meter before the ruck if not to kick the player in the head?
This is a rubbish punishment by some more old members of the AB fanclub.
28 Nov 2012, 17:15 pm
@norugbyguru: don’t be a hater the irb’s system is a joke anyways blame them don’t blame hore. He didn’t make the decision the irb did
28 Nov 2012, 17:19 pm
‘In 2005, Andrew Hore was convicted for killing a protected fur seal in NZ. The judge described it as “a spontaneous act of hooliganism’
Yes hore is innocent and a good person.
28 Nov 2012, 17:20 pm
I wanted to say “what a joke” but due to the serious nature of the offence, I have to say “what a disgrace mr commissioner!!”
28 Nov 2012, 17:21 pm
Dirty thugs you say what bakkies greyling etzebeth to name a few
28 Nov 2012, 17:31 pm
what a joke, barely a punishment
28 Nov 2012, 17:33 pm
@supersader-13: what about them d1ckhead? They have never committed such cowardly acts of blatant assault.
The 2 Boks you mention at least take opponents on face-to-face
28 Nov 2012, 17:43 pm
5. What signs were those?
28 Nov 2012, 17:53 pm
Absolute joke. Disgraceful from the IRB showing again that the All Blacks can get away with murder.
Hore’s act was cowardly and at a very serious level. It was off the ball and a few people mentioned that a charge of assault was possible.
The Welsh have condemned it, the Brits have condemned, South Africans have condemned it and even the kiwis have condemned it.
The only institution who do not seem to be in agreement with the seriousness of this cowardly act is the IRB… The same institution who keep voting in Richie McCaw as player of the year even when he doesn’t deserve it. The same institution who took zero action against Bryce Lawrence despite an unprecedented 47 errors against in a world cup. The same institution who gave Adam Thomson 2 weeks for stamping on a person’s head.
Absolutely disgraceful and despicable. New Zealanders everywhere should be embarassed and ashamed by this.
28 Nov 2012, 17:58 pm
Perhaps we all move on.
The citing & IRB handling of all these things are appalling to say the least.
in my opinion, screw leniency on good behavoiur. All offenders should be banned for minimum of 10 matches. Watch how fast thuggery & off the ball incidents will drop.
1) Punch 10 games
2) Kick 10 games
3) Knee to any part of the body 12 games
4) Boot to the head 12 games
5) Eye gouge 20 games
6) Biting 20 games
Irrespective of the jersey, this would stop matters quickly.
If the IRB initiated a policy like this, there would also be nowhere to hide, and no bias.
28 Nov 2012, 18:02 pm
What did we expect? A punishment that fit the crime? ******* please…
28 Nov 2012, 18:03 pm
@bokfan1: so its okay to assault a player as long its not from the back?? What a joke d1ckface. Boks will never be better than ab’s so just deal with it. Ab’s is the mafia of rugby so don’t fck withem
28 Nov 2012, 18:10 pm
@bokfan1-15: so headbutting someone from behind is ok?
this thread is also going to be a pearler..
shall read with much mirth, I see the generalisations about kiwis has already begun..
wonderful
28 Nov 2012, 18:13 pm
@Kaizan-17: why should we be embarassed by it? as you state, it was an IRB decision, not a kiwi one..
was it anymore cowardly then bakkies on Cowan? was it any more cowardly then Waugh on McCaw, a very similar incident in which Waugh got a 2 week suspension..
direct your anger at the IRB, not the kiwis..
28 Nov 2012, 18:16 pm
For those who wanted to know more about Prof Gerwel.
http://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/Ali-Bacher-Gerwel-saved-Windies-tour-20121128
28 Nov 2012, 18:21 pm
Andrew Hore has played 74 tests, 113 super games & 58 prov games. First trip to the judiciary…. But people rate him as a thug.. Typical saffers
28 Nov 2012, 18:23 pm
Poppa kiwis should be embarrassed because the cowardice shown by Hore reflects on you as a nation.
28 Nov 2012, 18:25 pm
@the authority-25: l;ike the cowardice of greyling? attacking a man on the ground? the cowardice of bakkies, attacking a much smaller man from behind? like the cowardice of Wiese, a kinghit shot? the cowardace of Geldenhuys?
those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones..
28 Nov 2012, 18:27 pm
@the authority-25: one mans actions reflect on a nation?
really?
so TerreBlanche would reflect on your country? using your example..
please, that is laughable, as an authority you have no idea..
28 Nov 2012, 18:27 pm
@poppa69-22: I thought I had a good memory for foul play vs the ABs but you’re schooling me
I don’t remember the Waugh incident, when was it and what happened?
Plenty of bleating on here but i haven’t heard anyone show us a comparable case where someone got more – besides Bakkies but then he was so experienced with the judiciary, i’m surprised the Boks haven’t hired him as their lawyer
28 Nov 2012, 18:31 pm
We were and still are embarrassed by Eugene Terblanche.
Will you say the same of Andrew Hore?
28 Nov 2012, 18:35 pm
@poppa69-22:
Why should you be embarrassed?… You have to ask?
Shameful.
28 Nov 2012, 18:42 pm
@gonzo-28: Just did a bit of hunting and yes, sounds like a similar situation that Waugh got 2 weeks for. It was in the same game Tiquiri dumped McCaw on his head. Can’t find a video though
28 Nov 2012, 18:44 pm
Its not the length of the ban that I have an issue with its the relevance of the games. He should be suspensed for the next 5 internationals! Not some warm up/club games!
28 Nov 2012, 18:47 pm
@gonzo-31: took me a while to find the footage, but yes, 2006 game with Tuquiris spear..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DE7FvrKac10#t=58s
@the authority-29: already condemned hore on the 3000 post thread, as well as the leniency of the judgement…but dont let that stop you on your crusade… good luck with it..
@Kaizan-30: yeah, why should I be embarassed about something someone I have never had contact with in my life and their actions on a rugby field..
are you embarassed about Matfields forearm smash on kelleher? Butch james and his any number of high shots on carter? Burger and his eye gouge during the lions series? PDV backing the murdering killer bees and Burger?
you should be..
28 Nov 2012, 18:50 pm
@fogdog10-32: Agree, it should be a number of games ban for the team you were playing for while comitting the discretion or higher.
So for example, if you committed and offence in a test match, you should be banned for 5 test matches.
If you committed the game in the Cuper XV match, you should be banned for the next 5 super matches or test matches.
Down all the way to the lower levels.
28 Nov 2012, 18:52 pm
Dont read the comments much on here anymore and have lost touch of who is who etc
I have to say though Poppa69 sounds like a proper w*nker!
28 Nov 2012, 18:53 pm
34.blik said: Yes thats a good idea
28 Nov 2012, 18:53 pm
@poppa69-33:
And there it is… The difference between South African and New Zealand rugby culture.
We both play hard. We both have players who go beyond the bounds of the rules occasionally but South Africans condemn the actions of their players and demonstrate the appropriate level of regret and embarrassment realising that our players are representatives of our country.
New Zealanders on the other hand respond with:
“why should I be embarassed about something someone I have never had contact with in my life and their actions on a rugby field.”
By that logic, let me ask you this Gonzo…
Why should you be proud about something someone you have never had contact with in your life and their actions on a rugby field?
New Zealand has recently won a world cup. Presumably you don’t feel proud then?
28 Nov 2012, 18:56 pm
@Kaizan-37: this has all been done on the 3000 post thread, whereby we have expressed our disgust at his actions..
do you want me to search through 50 pages of posts so I can copy and paste them here for you?
will that appease you?
28 Nov 2012, 18:57 pm
@fogdog10-35: nice one… an intelligent retort, well done dogfog..
28 Nov 2012, 18:58 pm
Here is Jamie Foxx already doing some ground work; he always irritated me as an actor but could not put my finger on it:
**************************************************************************************
12 September 2012
Jamie Foxx represents Oude Meester
A major feature of the multimedia campaign for South African fine brandy is the new TV ad, with Jamie Foxx representing the Oude Meester brand
(I reckon the Meester referred to here is a reference to Worshipful Master the highest honour any Masonic lodge may appoint any of its members)
27 November 2012
Oh, Jamie Foxx.
The comedian caused quite a stir at the 2012 Soul Train Awards, which was televised last night but taped in Las Vegas a few days after the 2012 election, when he made an out-of-this-world comparison regarding the president.
“It’s like church over here. It’s like church in here. First of all, give an honor to God and our Lord and Savior Barack Obama. Barack Obama,” Foxx said to the audience.
28 Nov 2012, 19:01 pm
@poppa69-38:
So now your changing tack and saying you do feel embarrassment for what Hore did??
You replied to my post. You came to me. Not the other way around… So if you want to go and find me posts of you saying you feel embarrassed for what Hore did, by all means go ahead.
I notice you didn’t answer the question I posed to you about whether you feel proud that New Zealand won the world cup.
28 Nov 2012, 19:02 pm
Initial thought confirmed, enjoy all
28 Nov 2012, 19:06 pm
kaizan
yawn
feel better because you’ve had a dig at all kiwis in one foul swoop?
as you were
28 Nov 2012, 19:10 pm
@Kaizan-41: I think poppa69 has enough to be embarressed about, he does not have enough left to feel embarresed about the precious ABs.
28 Nov 2012, 19:10 pm
@poppa69-43:
Actually I’ve had a dig at the IRB, you seem to have interpreted my posts wrong.
I said Kiwis should be embarrassed by this and I stand by that. I would be embarrassed if it were a Springbok player who had done that.
I notice you still have not answered my question. Until you manage to answer that question, I will consider this debate to have been won by me.
A simple Yes or No will suffice.
In your own time…
28 Nov 2012, 19:14 pm
Rugby isn’t for sissies.
28 Nov 2012, 19:16 pm
Bakkies will turn this thread into another 3000 one all on his own!
28 Nov 2012, 19:18 pm
Where’s the IRB PLAYER OF THE YEAR thread?
Apparently the following players have been nominated:
R.McCaw,D.Carter,O.Farrell,F.Michalak
28 Nov 2012, 19:20 pm
@47
Bakkies was a lekker blogger but these days he’s one helluva irritation.
28 Nov 2012, 19:23 pm
The only institution who do not seem to be in agreement with the seriousness of this cowardly act is the IRB… The same institution who keep voting in Richie McCaw as player of the year even when he doesn’t deserve it. The same institution who took zero action against Bryce Lawrence despite an unprecedented 47 errors against in a world cup. The same institution who gave Adam Thomson 2 weeks for stamping on a person’s head.
Absolutely disgraceful and despicable. New Zealanders everywhere should be embarassed and ashamed by this.
so to my understanding you are saying we should be embarassed because the IRB voted mccaw, didnt punish lawrence and the whole thompson angle?
but hey, if you need to consider yourself the “winner’ on a blog I do actually pity you..
I see you failed to highlight your own embarassment at the many examples I listed, should I consider that brings me back level?
again, not going to waste any more time with you… your statement and the way it is structured is easily deduced as kiwis being embarassed about the IRBs decisions..
but enjoy your victory, you can feel rightly proud of yourself..
eish..
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