Carter back in black
29 Nov 2012
Dan Carter has recovered from a calf injury and will start at flyhalf for New Zealand against England on Saturday.
Carter replaces Aaron Cruden, who drops to the bench. Coach Steve Hansen has made a further two changes, with Brodie Retallick starting at lock and hooker Keven Mealamu filling in for the suspended Andrew Hore.
Hansen has confirmed that despite their niggling injuries, players like Mealamu and Tony Woodcock will be available for the game at Twickenham.
All Blacks – 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 Liam Messam, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Keven Mealamu, 1 Tony Woodcock.
Subs: 16 Dane Coles, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Charlie Faumuina, 19 Luke Romano, 20 Victor Vito, 21 Piri Weepu, 22 Aaron Cruden, 23 Ben Smith.
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29 Nov 2012, 09:18 am
Recent contoversies aside, that is a farking good looking side.
Cant actually pick out a weakness.
Except for little fat Piri on the bench perhaps.
29 Nov 2012, 09:46 am
@John Galt-1:
Can find plenty of weaknesses. They thrive partly on reputation.
The Boks have a far better forward pack, as we proved in Dunedin.
In the backs I also feel Aaron Smith has done well, but still could be found out for the same thing. He lacks the physical side so when he doesn’t get quick ball it could make things very, very difficult for him.
Also think we’ve seen the best their front-row has to offer and they seem to be on the slide now, while McCaw (what a joke that he’s been nominated for IRB POTY again) hasn’t been nearly as good as he has been in the past, and Liam Messam is about as inconsistent as you can get.
29 Nov 2012, 09:48 am
@hendrikp-2:
Least impressive part of that AB’s team, their locking partnership.
Brodie Retallick runs around like a headless chicken. Don’t think he has a long AB career ahead of him. Sam Whitelock is also so-so, and wouldn’t be in the side if he weren’t playing for the Crusaders.
29 Nov 2012, 10:20 am
@hendrikp: with all these weaknesses they are still unbeaten… Imagine these rookie players find their feet..
29 Nov 2012, 10:30 am
@supersader-4:
All Blacks are on the slide…
Can’t see them winning the next WC. I think Heyneke is about to learn from his mistakes and get things right with the Boks, while Aussie are a much better side when they aren’t playing their 2nd-XV due to injuries.
29 Nov 2012, 11:07 am
All Blacks haven’t been that good this year, its just that AUS and Boks were pisss poor this season.
Aus still manage to draw against AB and Scotland put 20 points pass the AB.
Aus at full strenght and Boks with better gameplan next year will knock the AB of their high horse.
29 Nov 2012, 11:10 am
I also agree that AB tight 5 not that great, Boks smashed them in Dunedin.
Next year will be interesting.
29 Nov 2012, 11:16 am
@hendrikp-5:
Another unbeaten year for the Abs next year…..gotta luv the rep..
29 Nov 2012, 11:29 am
@hendrikp-5:
all blacks 60 ireland 0
all blacks 22 australia 0
all blacks 32 south africa 16
all blacks 51 scotland 20
all blacks 33 wales 10
all blacks 54 argentina 14
all blacks 42 italy 10
geez if thats a team on the slide with those results??? what would you call the boks team
29 Nov 2012, 11:30 am
Hendrik 3 years out you can’t see the Ab’s winning a WC but after watching the dribble the Bokke has produced they could win it, oh dear.
29 Nov 2012, 11:31 am
Westy you are correct these Bokke fans are clutching at anything.
29 Nov 2012, 11:33 am
@NZINCHINA-10: yes they were stunning against england and based on that fantastic draw in argentina they definitly have the edge on the ABs, while the blacks are on the slide big time haha
29 Nov 2012, 11:37 am
@hendrikp: you can’t see ab’s winning the wc but you can see heyneke getting the boks right?? Injuries is part of the game with proper player management their won’t be so many.ab’s boks en aus played same amount of games ab’s still got full team to choose from.
29 Nov 2012, 11:39 am
@west-12: There is clearly and overwhelming margin between the Blacks and the rest of WORLD rugby. Nobody can breathe the same oxygen as the AB’s right now. The Boks are a work in progress and England are even further back than they think. They are not effective at all.
The AB’s are the bench mark and the sooner we accept that the better.
29 Nov 2012, 11:41 am
Westy they’re desperate and well behind us, their game against England was one big pile of poo.
29 Nov 2012, 11:43 am
Aaron Cruden has played 19 tests and has won all 19. No player in rugby history has had so many wins before his first defeat.
29 Nov 2012, 11:47 am
AB drew with Aus.
AB were lucky to beat Boks in Dunedin.
Ireland almost beat AB in NZ.
Scotland put 20 points pass AB.
The cracks are there, its just a matter of time
29 Nov 2012, 12:30 pm
Very strong AB team.
With the exception of perhaps Andrew Hore, the strongest possible line-up.
Good bench as well.
England will be dog tucker.
Lets see how many Limey’s run obstruction.
29 Nov 2012, 12:33 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_-17:
RWC Final – France should have won had the ref been partial
Ire v AB – again Ire should have won for bad reffing
Aus and SA are not playing well because of injuries etc.
ABs are overrated, best team at the moment, but not that good.
29 Nov 2012, 12:35 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_-17:
20 Tests without a loss.
All good things come to an end,
sooner or later guru.
But not this week Sunshine.
Not this week.
29 Nov 2012, 12:38 pm
@blik-19:
The poms should have beaten you twice this year along with the Argies and the Irish quit while you’re behind.
29 Nov 2012, 12:39 pm
@blik-19:
Concern your comment “RWC Final – France should have won had the ref been partial”.
C rap.
Nz controled the game to the point where France, finding no way through the AB defence, resorted to physical attacks on our captain.
Eye gouging and stomping him on the last 10 minutes.
29 Nov 2012, 12:41 pm
@hendrikp-3: yep, reputation has seen them win 87 of their last 100 tests..
keep talking hendrik, youve continually blown smoke up your own @rse and been found wanting every time..
its hilarious
29 Nov 2012, 12:41 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_-17:
Cracks are there.
Boks have canyons and really does not look like closing.
29 Nov 2012, 12:42 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_-17: Ireland almost drew with the ABs. But as we’ve seen for the last 100 years, they didn’t have what it takes to win it.
Why were the ABs lucky to beat the Boks? Are you blaming the ref? The weather? Please not a lucky try? Some act of god?
ABs drew with Oz, vs last year when we lost to Oz. Sounds more like an improvement than a slide
Scotland put 20 points on an under-strength AB team. I’d have loved to blank them but when was the last time anyone put 50+ points on them?
29 Nov 2012, 12:44 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_-17: ABS scored 2 to 1 points at altitude vs SA in SA…
isnt it played 2 games at Soccer city, win two games by the ABs?
sending 170 000 paying Saffa supporters home with their tails between their legs?
you blokes are indeed special, the mental institution type of special..
29 Nov 2012, 12:45 pm
@blik-19: Bad reffing? Did you watch the game with green-tinted glasses on? You might have missed the knock-on before Ireland’s try and McLaughlin not getting carded after trying to rip McCaw’s face off. Sounds like you didn’t see the game and just read the Irish media afterwards
29 Nov 2012, 12:50 pm
The Mitchel/Ted/Hanson Yrs have been glorious for NZ Rugby.
85.1% winning ratio.
With a couple of draws thrown in.
Against NH Teams 92.9%.
29 Nov 2012, 12:51 pm
@gonzo-27: I did see the game, and by the way you are going off, I think I was more partial than you. Also, I am not an Irish or AB fan.
@cane-22: Please, everyone outside NZ things the reffing was poor to biased in the RWC final.
@NZINCHINA-21: Saffas are not claiming to have a great team at the moment, so what’s your point? I am saying the ABs are overrated and dont deserve their streak of runs with no losses. I agree, the Boks have not been very good this year. That’s the point I am making, there is not many teams challenging the ABs at the moment.
You kiwis are too one-eyed, not everything revolves around the ABs.
29 Nov 2012, 13:12 pm
AB got the *****….
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has claimed that a 24-hour bug has hit his world champions as they prepare to play England on Saturday at Twickenham.
Hansen said only two of the 30-strong group had not suffered from ‘diahorrea and vomiting’ in the past week.
He said: ‘It’s been a difficult week because a lot of guys have been sick with diahorrea and vomiting.
29 Nov 2012, 13:14 pm
@Slartibartfast-30: Oh Suzie Q…
29 Nov 2012, 13:17 pm
@Slartibartfast-30: Heard that before the loss in the 94 Beledisloe cup to Australia and the 95 RWC loss to SA.
29 Nov 2012, 13:18 pm
@blik-32: Maybe it’s nerves.
29 Nov 2012, 13:20 pm
@blik-32: @katman-33:
Maybe it was a bad pom…
29 Nov 2012, 13:20 pm
As we speak, the Kiwi management are in an urgent blamestorm session to find a way to pin this on a South African waiter. We should hear from them within the hour.
29 Nov 2012, 13:24 pm
@blik-29: sounds like someone is jealous because our world champions are still undefeated, while yours tumbled to a 19-0 loss at home very shortly after their “ascension”
thats the difference between mediocrity and excellence..
I’ll leave you to figure out which is which, can you manage that?
29 Nov 2012, 13:25 pm
@Slartibartfast-34: There’s also a bad karmabug going round.
29 Nov 2012, 13:39 pm
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has claimed that a 24-hour bug has hit his world champions as they prepare to play England on Saturday at Twickenham.
Hansen said only two of the 30-strong group had not suffered from ‘diahorrea and vomiting’ in the past week.
He said: ‘It’s been a difficult week because a lot of guys have been sick with diahorrea and vomiting.
cannibals misbehaving again ….
29 Nov 2012, 13:40 pm
@hendrikp-2:
They thrive partly on reputation?!
They are a team on the slide?!
Jeez you can talk ka k.
Are you the same Hendrikp that parades as a kenner on Sharks world?
The ease with which the ABs have swept aside teams we have scraped wins to suggests otherwise pal.
Look at their recent results.
29 Nov 2012, 13:43 pm
@poppa69-36: You’re very slow. When have we cliamed the Boks = excellence? But you guys carry on about how great the ABs are.
29 Nov 2012, 13:45 pm
@katman-37:
Thats what happen when you leave it out for to long.
29 Nov 2012, 13:49 pm
@katman-37: My mom always told me cheaters never proser
29 Nov 2012, 14:06 pm
“My mom always told me cheaters never proser”
Weird way to tell someone that your father is not who you might think
29 Nov 2012, 14:27 pm
But let me guess Blik the 09′ Bokke were a brilliant team despite needing an injury time penalty to beat a very ordinary Lions team, losing the 3rd test , a year when the Ab’s had a once in ten season off season and you got thumped up north at the end of the year. This team on KEO is regularly called a once in a generation team, fark don’t you guys talk s hit
29 Nov 2012, 14:29 pm
@katman-37:
Yip you said it and you’ve been paying for it ever since readmission.
29 Nov 2012, 14:31 pm
@NZINCHINA-45: I’m not the one with the dribbly bum.
29 Nov 2012, 14:31 pm
@NZINCHINA-44: Not sure who called it a one in a generation team, because the Boks in the 80′s were far better than the class of 09.
Some of SA’s best ever players such as Naas Botha, Carel du Plesis, Danie Gerber.
To me it sounds like you are planting a few seeds to fabricate your own agrgument.
29 Nov 2012, 14:32 pm
@katman-46:
No but you have a dribbly mouth
29 Nov 2012, 14:33 pm
@blik-47:
Shame they never played anyone so we’ll never know how good they really were
29 Nov 2012, 14:40 pm
@blik-40: We carry on? Have a look at the start of this thread and you’ll see comments about thriving on reputation, being on the slide, only winning through luck, and your own was that they don’t deserve their winning streak. Talk about sour grapes. We’re just correcting you all.
And your comment on cheaters never prospering. Strange, either your Mum was wrong or the ABs aren’t cheaters. We’ve pretty consistently been ranked #1 since early 2004, sitting above 90 points most of the time with only SA making a blip in ’07 and ’09
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