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	<title>Comments on: Carter pips McCaw for IRB prize</title>
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		<title>By: captain fantail</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/12/03/carter-pips-mccaw-for-irb-prize/#comment-2295880</link>
		<dc:creator>captain fantail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2291706&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KeurboomPark-12&lt;/a&gt;: yes we live in hope :-0)
its always next year eh cuz.Like the Pom supporters next year, next year and yes * years later they put together a win that somehow justifies their existence. At least the Boks have been able to compete since their WC victory and at least didnt fall off the perch totally as the Poms did.
How is it the AB&#039;s lose one game at the end of season, one from 20 and a team that hasnt beaten them in 9 years is suddenly looking the goods. Tall poppy is alive and well world over I think. Merry Xmas all, have a safe one for all of you and those close to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2291706" rel="nofollow">KeurboomPark-12</a>: yes we live in hope :-0)<br />
its always next year eh cuz.Like the Pom supporters next year, next year and yes * years later they put together a win that somehow justifies their existence. At least the Boks have been able to compete since their WC victory and at least didnt fall off the perch totally as the Poms did.<br />
How is it the AB&#8217;s lose one game at the end of season, one from 20 and a team that hasnt beaten them in 9 years is suddenly looking the goods. Tall poppy is alive and well world over I think. Merry Xmas all, have a safe one for all of you and those close to you.</p>
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		<title>By: DumbSupporter</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/12/03/carter-pips-mccaw-for-irb-prize/#comment-2294072</link>
		<dc:creator>DumbSupporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 07:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, great performances in test matches is what counts. Carter had 2 or 3 sublime games this year. If S15 form was the measure, then Sonny Bill would have walked it in 2011 - he didn&#039;t even get nominated. 

That is why JPP is far from a deserving winner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, great performances in test matches is what counts. Carter had 2 or 3 sublime games this year. If S15 form was the measure, then Sonny Bill would have walked it in 2011 &#8211; he didn&#8217;t even get nominated. </p>
<p>That is why JPP is far from a deserving winner.</p>
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		<title>By: KeurboomPark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/12/03/carter-pips-mccaw-for-irb-prize/#comment-2294010</link>
		<dc:creator>KeurboomPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2293617&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blik-44&lt;/a&gt;: 

fukkem]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2293617" rel="nofollow">blik-44</a>: </p>
<p>fukkem</p>
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		<title>By: blik</title>
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		<dc:creator>blik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bagel-31&lt;/a&gt;: 

The reason why F du Preez did not win in 2008, when he and BOD were clearly the best players and McCaw was outplayed by Brossouw is...

John Eales is a self proclaimed SA hater and Pienaar is so diplomatic he borders on being a brown nose

There seems to be an underlying current in rugby circles to please NZ too]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292082" rel="nofollow">Bagel-31</a>: </p>
<p>The reason why F du Preez did not win in 2008, when he and BOD were clearly the best players and McCaw was outplayed by Brossouw is&#8230;</p>
<p>John Eales is a self proclaimed SA hater and Pienaar is so diplomatic he borders on being a brown nose</p>
<p>There seems to be an underlying current in rugby circles to please NZ too</p>
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		<title>By: Liewe Luiperd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liewe Luiperd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boring results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boring results.</p>
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		<title>By: Liewe Luiperd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liewe Luiperd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boring.</p>
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		<title>By: bokke baiter</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/12/03/carter-pips-mccaw-for-irb-prize/#comment-2292828</link>
		<dc:creator>bokke baiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292794&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KeurboomPark-40&lt;/a&gt;: Hey DUMBKUNT,your nappy needs changing ,I can smell the scheisse from here !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292794" rel="nofollow">KeurboomPark-40</a>: Hey DUMBKUNT,your nappy needs changing ,I can smell the scheisse from here !</p>
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		<title>By: KeurboomPark</title>
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		<dc:creator>KeurboomPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292734&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;supersader-39&lt;/a&gt;: 

Your time at the top is over.  The Bok jugganaught is going to destroy your team.  Like Aussie cricket - all good cheats get naaid in the end.  Nag vir julle skaapies.  Gaan soek jou ma, pielneus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292734" rel="nofollow">supersader-39</a>: </p>
<p>Your time at the top is over.  The Bok jugganaught is going to destroy your team.  Like Aussie cricket &#8211; all good cheats get naaid in the end.  Nag vir julle skaapies.  Gaan soek jou ma, pielneus.</p>
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		<title>By: supersader</title>
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		<dc:creator>supersader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@keurboom38: can you explain why you think so? Because we lost to england and boks won against them?? Did mommy let you use the internet while she cooks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@keurboom38: can you explain why you think so? Because we lost to england and boks won against them?? Did mommy let you use the internet while she cooks</p>
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		<title>By: KeurboomPark</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/12/03/carter-pips-mccaw-for-irb-prize/#comment-2292724</link>
		<dc:creator>KeurboomPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2291920&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;supersader-20&lt;/a&gt;: 

whatever, w@nker.  We will crush your team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2291920" rel="nofollow">supersader-20</a>: </p>
<p>whatever, w@nker.  We will crush your team.</p>
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		<title>By: DumpsterDiver</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/12/03/carter-pips-mccaw-for-irb-prize/#comment-2292629</link>
		<dc:creator>DumpsterDiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan Carter is the best player on the planet period.  Etsebeth can win this next year and I reckon JP Pietersen would have a good chance if injury-free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Carter is the best player on the planet period.  Etsebeth can win this next year and I reckon JP Pietersen would have a good chance if injury-free.</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/12/03/carter-pips-mccaw-for-irb-prize/#comment-2292144</link>
		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292134&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David-34&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yes David, also true.

But a fine bunch of has beens just the same.

:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292134" rel="nofollow">David-34</a>: </p>
<p>Yes David, also true.</p>
<p>But a fine bunch of has beens just the same.</p>
<p> <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292118&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bagel-33&lt;/a&gt;: 

True enough.

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292118" rel="nofollow">Bagel-33</a>: </p>
<p>True enough.</p>
<p> <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292073&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane-28&lt;/a&gt;: 
Nah, they&#039;re all has beens. :lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292073" rel="nofollow">cane-28</a>:<br />
Nah, they&#8217;re all has beens. <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292103&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane-32&lt;/a&gt;: Well Cane let&#039;s forget about Bakkies and Bokfan. 

I despise Poppa but I don&#039;t insult New Zealanders. There are a lot of us around and our grievances with these awards are rugby ones.

But whatever, doesn&#039;t really matter in the end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292103" rel="nofollow">cane-32</a>: Well Cane let&#8217;s forget about Bakkies and Bokfan. </p>
<p>I despise Poppa but I don&#8217;t insult New Zealanders. There are a lot of us around and our grievances with these awards are rugby ones.</p>
<p>But whatever, doesn&#8217;t really matter in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bagel-31&lt;/a&gt;: 

I personly think Kieran Read would have been a deserving winner.

But hey, I&#039;m just saying that is a mighty impressive table to sit around and discuss the options.

And their decision, 
while it may not have been mine,
sits well enough with me.

I suspect bakkies and bokfan have other reasons for calling the decision into question, other than RUGBY REASONS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292082" rel="nofollow">Bagel-31</a>: </p>
<p>I personly think Kieran Read would have been a deserving winner.</p>
<p>But hey, I&#8217;m just saying that is a mighty impressive table to sit around and discuss the options.</p>
<p>And their decision,<br />
while it may not have been mine,<br />
sits well enough with me.</p>
<p>I suspect bakkies and bokfan have other reasons for calling the decision into question, other than RUGBY REASONS.</p>
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		<title>By: Bagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2292073&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane-28&lt;/a&gt;: Do you really think these were good nominations? No Reid or Savea? But McCaw? I think Dan deserved a nomination though.

Did you really think McCaw was better than Fourie du Preez or Heinrich Brussouw in 2009? Shane Williams in 2008?

Let&#039;s be honest these things are generally pretty shockingly done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2292073" rel="nofollow">cane-28</a>: Do you really think these were good nominations? No Reid or Savea? But McCaw? I think Dan deserved a nomination though.</p>
<p>Did you really think McCaw was better than Fourie du Preez or Heinrich Brussouw in 2009? Shane Williams in 2008?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest these things are generally pretty shockingly done.</p>
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		<title>By: Gtown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2291967&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brads-25&lt;/a&gt;: GREAT argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2291967" rel="nofollow">Brads-25</a>: GREAT argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Gtown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2291752&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KeurboomPark-14&lt;/a&gt;: FUNNYFUCKER!!:D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2291752" rel="nofollow">KeurboomPark-14</a>: FUNNYFUCKER!!:D</p>
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		<title>By: cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2291931&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-22&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2291606&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;umfolozi-5&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2291574&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bokfan1-1&lt;/a&gt;: 

Well Oke Dokes, 
The Selection panel was:

John Eales (AUS, 1991-2001) - Convenor
Will Greenwood (ENG, 1997-2004)
Gavin Hastings (SCO, 1986-1995)
Francois Pienaar (RSA, 1993-1996)
Paul Wallace (IRE, 1995-2002)
Scott Quinnell (WAL, 1993-2002)
Agustin Pichot (ARG, 1995-2007)
Tana Umaga (NZL, 1997-2005)
Raphel Ibanez (FRA, 1996-2007)


And I may be going out on a limb here........................................

But .....................................I think they have some Street Credibility. Unlike your good selves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2291931" rel="nofollow">i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-22</a>: @<a href="#comment-2291606" rel="nofollow">umfolozi-5</a>: @<a href="#comment-2291574" rel="nofollow">bokfan1-1</a>: </p>
<p>Well Oke Dokes,<br />
The Selection panel was:</p>
<p>John Eales (AUS, 1991-2001) &#8211; Convenor<br />
Will Greenwood (ENG, 1997-2004)<br />
Gavin Hastings (SCO, 1986-1995)<br />
Francois Pienaar (RSA, 1993-1996)<br />
Paul Wallace (IRE, 1995-2002)<br />
Scott Quinnell (WAL, 1993-2002)<br />
Agustin Pichot (ARG, 1995-2007)<br />
Tana Umaga (NZL, 1997-2005)<br />
Raphel Ibanez (FRA, 1996-2007)</p>
<p>And I may be going out on a limb here&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>But &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I think they have some Street Credibility. Unlike your good selves.</p>
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