Sharks to face Leopards, Pumas
3 Jan 2013
The Sharks will use two pre-season friendlies against Vodacom Cup opposition to prepare for Super Rugby.
Keegan Daniel’s side will play the Leopards at the Woodburn Stadium in Pietermaritzburg on 8 February, before facing the Pumas at Mbombela Stadium in Nelspruit a week later.
The Sharks start their Super Rugby campaign against the Stormers at Kings Park on 2 March.
Sharks Super Rugby squad:
Fullbacks: Louis Ludik, Gouws Prinsloo, Riaan Viljoen
Wings: Lwazi Mvovo, Odwa Ndungane, JP Pietersen, Sibusiso Sithole
Centres: Meyer Bosman, Paul Jordaan, Wandile Mjekevu, Frans Steyn, Tim Whitehead, Heimar Williams
Flyhalves: Pat Lambie, Butch James
Scrumhalves: Cobus Reinach, Charl McLeod, Conrad Hoffmann
Loose forwards: Willem Alberts, Jacques Botes, Marcell Coetzee, Keegan Daniel (c), Jean Deysel, Ryan Kankowski, Francois Kleinhans, Lubabalo Mtembu
Locks: Anton Bresler, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Jaundre Marais, Peet Marais, Franco van der Merwe
Hookers: Craig Burden, Kyle Cooper, Monde Hadebe, Bismarck du Plessis
Props: Dale Chadwick, Jannie du Plessis, Wiehahn Herbst, Tendai Mtawarira, Julian Redelinghuys
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4 Jan 2013, 18:33 pm
@nortierd-246:
I agree, Victor is a student of the game, he knows lineout and forward play he knows the Bulls and he’s played under Frans
Him and Barney also coached the Boks for the last few years as well
4 Jan 2013, 18:36 pm
@nortierd-247:
Dit he begin met Bakkies wat vir Schalk twee keer in ‘n ry by die losskrums ge-cleanout het dat hy op sy g.at gesit het. Schalk was nog jonk en baie goed daardie tyd, maar daarna was hy nêrens in die wedstryd nie
4 Jan 2013, 18:37 pm
@victoriabok-251:
I think it was a very good move from the Bulls.
4 Jan 2013, 18:38 pm
@Heavens Game-249:
Maybe you’ll get lucky tonight…
4 Jan 2013, 18:40 pm
@nortierd-253:
Yes, they don’t do well with coaches from outside the Bulls fold
Todd Louden was the exception but he was with HM
4 Jan 2013, 19:39 pm
A Happy Return for The Beast from his 2nd heart condition!
Such a resilient dude!
4 Jan 2013, 19:52 pm
@Heavens Game-241: Indeed I do.Sunset glow colour opposite Purple house.Hot for hiking?
4 Jan 2013, 19:58 pm
@Heavens Game-241: Actually Central Berg.Cathedral Peak,Champagne Castle,Bergview.Not Bergville
which is the armpit of the Berg.
4 Jan 2013, 20:21 pm
@NZINCHINA-160: No chance, Bismark snapped his ACL, Takes a long time to recover, at least 9 months probably more.
5 Jan 2013, 09:12 am
@Angostura-197:
{Pardon this very lengthy cut ‘n paste job – but it dovetails with my thoroughbred analogies of yesterday, & is a pretty good read in its own right – but please scroll past it if this sort of thing is not your cup of tea}
In 1938, the Pimlico Special was host to one of American racing’s historic moments, the War Admiral vs. Seabiscuit match race, an event that inspired thousands (if not millions) of long-suffering folk in the aftermath of the Great Depression:
**
– by Grantland Rice, Baltimore Sun, 1938 –
“The drama and melodrama of this match race, held before a record crowd keyed to the highest tension I have ever seen in sport, set an all time mark.
You must get the picture from the start to absorb the thrill of this perfect autumn day over a perfect track. As the two thoroughbreds paraded to the post there was no emotional outburst. The big crowd was too full of tension, the type of tension that locks the human throat.
You looked at the odds flashed upon the mutual board – War Admiral, one to four, Seabiscuit two to one. Even those backing War Admiral, the great majority of the crowd, felt their pity for the son of Hard Tack and Swing On [Seabiscuit], who had come along the hard way and had churned up the dust of almost every track from the Great Lakes to the Gulf, from the Atlantic to the Pacific.
After two false starts, they were off. But it wasn’t the fast-flying War Admiral who took the lead. It was Seabiscuit, taking the whip from Woolf, who got the jump. It was Seabiscuit who had a full-length lead as they passed the first furlong. The Admiral’s supporters were dazed as the ‘Biscuit not only held this lead but increased it to two lengths before they passed the first quarter.
The ‘Biscuit’ was moving along as smoothly as a southern breeze. And then the first roar of the big crowd swept over Maryland. The Admiral was moving up. Stride by stride, Man o’ War’s favorite offspring was closing up the open gap. You could hear the roar from thousands of throats “Here he comes, here he comes!”
And the Admiral was under full steam.
He cut away a length.
He cut away another length as they came to the half-mile post–and now they were running head and head.
The Admiral looked Seabiscuit in the eye at the three-quarters but Seabiscuit never got the look. He was too busy running with his shorter, faster stride.
For almost a half mile they ran as one horse, painted against the green, red and orange foliage of a Maryland countryside. They were neck and neck—head and head–nose and nose.
The great Admiral had thrown his challenge.
You could see that he expected Seabiscuit to quit and curl up.
But, Seabiscuit has never been that brand of horse.
I had seen him before in two $100,000 races at Santa Anita, boxed out, knocked to his knees, taking the worst of all the racing luck — almost everything except facing a firing squad or a machine-gun nest — and yet, through all this barrage of trouble Seabiscuit was always there, challenging at the wire. I saw him run the fastest half-mile ever run at Santa Anita last March, when he had to do it in his pursuit of Stagehand.
So, when War Admiral moved up on even terms and 40,000 throats poured out their tribute to the Admiral, I still knew that the ‘Biscuit would be alongside at the finish.
The ‘Biscuit had come up the hard way. That happens to be the only way worth while.
The Admiral had known only the softer years– the softer type of competition. He had never before met a combination of a grizzly bear and a running fool.
Head and head they came to the mile. There wasn’t a short conceded putt between them.
It was a question now of the horse that had the heart.
Seabiscuit had lost his two-length margin. His velvet had been shot away.
He was on his own where all races are won down the stretch.
He had come to the great kingdom of all sport — the kingdom of the heart.
The Admiral had shown his reserve speed.
From two lengths away he was now on even terms.
But as they passed the mile post with three-sixteenths left–the vital test—the stretch that always tells the story — where 40,000 looked for the fleet War Admiral to move away — there was another story.
Seabiscuit was still hanging on. Seabiscuit hadn’t quit.
With barely more than a final furlong left, the hard-way son of Hard Tack must have said to the Admiral –
“Now, let’s start running.
Let’s see who is the better horse.”
Foot by foot and yard by yard,
Woolf and Seabiscuit started moving away.
Charlie Kurtzinger gave the Admiral the whip.
But you could see from the stands that the Admiral suddenly knew he had nothing left in heart or feet to match this crazy five-year-old who all his life had known only the uphill, knockdown devil-take-the-loser route, any track–any distance–any weight–any time.
And who the hell are you?
War Admiral had no answer.
Down the final furlong the great-hearted ‘Biscuit put on extra speed.
He moved on by. Then he opened a small gap.
Forty thousand expected the Admiral to move up, close the gap again.
But the Admiral was through. He had run against too many plow horses and platers in his soft easy life.
He had never tackled a Seabiscuit before.
He had never met a horse who could look him in the eye down the stretch and say to him, in horse language,
“Now let’s start traveling, kid. How do you feel?
I feel great. This is down my alley.”
Yard by yard Seabiscuit moved on ahead.
Then it was length by length.
Seabiscuit left the Admiral so far behind that it wasn’t even a contest down the stretch.
War Admiral might just have well be chasing a will-o-the-wisp in a midnight swamp.
He might just as well have been a fat poodle chasing a meat wagon.
He had been outrun and outgamed — he had been run off the track by a battered five-year-old who had more speed and heart.
The race, they say, isn’t to the swift.
But it is always to the swift and the game.
It so happened that Seabiscuit had these two important qualities in deep abundance.
War Admiral could match neither flying feet nor fighting heart.
Man o’ War’s brilliant son hung on with all he had until it came to the big showdown — to the point when the hard-way thoroughbred, the horse from the wrong side of the track, began really to run.”
5 Jan 2013, 09:40 am
@Heavens Game-241: Why where Rye “claims” to live.?W hy should I lie about someting so banal?
5 Jan 2013, 12:59 pm
This says nothing about your knowledge of the thoroughbreds at all as you probably do not even know which of these 2 horses, King of Pain or Cape Town Noir, won the last Cape Guineas and Selacor Cup, or that the winner of the up-coming Renewal of the Queens Plate qualifies to run in the Breeders Cup Turf Mile much later this year.
All that your post demonstrates is your potential to read before you copy and paste a ‘wishy- washy’ analogy.
5 Jan 2013, 14:09 pm
@Neilanate-262:
Yes, you are correct, my copy & paste effort says nothing about my knowledge (or lack thereof) of thoroughbreds and horse racing. That was not my intention.
The post was not about me but about a fascinating true tale of the ‘unfancied winning against all odds’, which was penned in heroic language by an award winning journalistic. Hey, some might like it; some might not; most might not even bother to read it. Whatever the case/response, I’m comfortable with that.
On the H_ore-thread I posted something similar about The Man from Snowy River, but there I suspect that the truth may have been embellished somewhat by a need for Australian national heroes. But who cares? Tis another similarly rousing story.
I guess what my post(s) really demonstrate, is that at heart I’m still a Boy’s Own adventure fan.
Enjoy your punting/laying off of bets … or is it breeding?
Ciao
5 Jan 2013, 15:49 pm
In Reversal, Armstrong Is Said to Weigh Admitting Drug Use
Lance Armstrong, who this fall was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles for doping and barred for life from competing in all Olympic sports, has told associates and antidoping officials that he is considering publicly admitting that he used banned performance-enhancing drugs and blood transfusions during his cycling career, according to several people with direct knowledge of the situation.
He would do this, the people said, because he wants to persuade antidoping officials to restore his eligibility so he can resume his athletic career.
for the rest:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/05/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-said-to-weigh-admission-of-doping.html?hp&_r=0
5 Jan 2013, 16:04 pm
As decent a rugby player as Watson has been, and hopefully still is, the comparison to a War Admiral or a Sea Biscuit(in riveting, superb competition) is grossly incongruous and misleading.
There must, therefore, be a ‘hidden’ purpose for that specific post of a highly specific topic of competitive thoroughbred horse-racing. Image?
Anyone coming away from that reading must conjure thoughts of an all-knowing ‘fundi’ on the said topic, yet the movie Sea Biscuit can give even a fool a shallow feel for that topic.
Your insertion of “(or lack thereof)” is part of the tendency to mislead as demonstrated by your lack of an attempt to say anything(at least 3 hours later) about the Cape horses I allude to or the four races(3 of them from C.T.) I mention .
:rolling: 
Your reference to “was not about me” may well be closer to your true intent than you may feel comfortable with.
5 Jan 2013, 16:09 pm
The genuine Armstrong ‘exposer’ predicted that months ago on this site.
How long will it take before he denies it through his lawyer?
5 Jan 2013, 16:46 pm
A shakshit thread about f’all no wonder there’s absolutely f’all to remotely get Interested about in banality bemused anal analytical anxiety round this dreary dreaming dead end dumping deluge of delinquency
5 Jan 2013, 16:46 pm
@Neilanate-266:
ok, so you want the recognition for this story then?
fine, well done
you beat us to the obvious.
5 Jan 2013, 16:58 pm
@Neilanate-266:
anyway, why would he deny it through his lawyers if he himself is interested in coming clean?
up your game, smart guy.
5 Jan 2013, 17:05 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-264:
Hi Bakkies, dinge goed?
Wonder of daar enige van die fietsryers was wat nie drugs gebruik het nie?
Die verskil was seker net die goeies kon beter kwaliteit bekostig.
Dis nou een ou se lewe wat totaal en al uitmekaar geval het die.
5 Jan 2013, 17:06 pm
Does the relevant post claim that I am the original ‘exposer’.?
That one is somewhere on a smallholding on the Cape West Coast.
Feeling guilty for jumping on a well-worn bandwagon and/or someone else’s hardwork and argument?
5 Jan 2013, 17:16 pm
The global cycling body’s records show that from about the year 2004 or so, only about 6 of the top 10 cyclists in the Tour have tested positive. Even that though is 60% too many.
The preposterous claims of 99% or more repeatedly made on this site by those with an agenda, is pure emotional garbage served to prop-up their known gross distortions to support their vile hero-worship of the drug monsters in all sport, let alone cycling.
5 Jan 2013, 17:26 pm
How boring is it not when Arsenal do not play on a Saturday afternoon and the Euro rugby is just rubbish?
5 Jan 2013, 17:40 pm
If you know anything at all about the top sport’s personality in modern society, the media speculation through his obvious supporters is a mere testing of the public reaction to his coming clean.
5 Jan 2013, 17:48 pm
And here you have it!
Armstrong’s lawyer: No talks with anti-doping agencies
By Jillian Martin and Chelsea J. Carter
updated 2:48 AM EST, Sat January 5, 2013
Lance Armstrong’s attorney denied his client was in discussion with the U.S. or world anti-doping agencies following a report by The New York Times that the disgraced cycling icon was contemplating publicly admitting he used illegal performance-enhancing drugs.
5 Jan 2013, 18:07 pm
And the NBC report:
Lance Armstrong is reportedly mulling the idea of admitting he doped during his cycling career, which includes seven Tour de France titles.
Associated Press Sports
updated 11:35 p.m. ET Jan. 4, 201
AUSTIN, Texas – The New York Times reported Friday that Lance Armstrong, who has strongly denied the doping charges that led to him being stripped of his seven Tour de France titles, has told associates he is considering admitting to the use of performance-enhancing drugs.
The report cited anonymous sources and said Armstrong was considering a confession to help restore his athletic career in triathlons and running events at age 41. Armstrong was been banned for life from cycling and cannot compete in athletic events sanctioned by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency and the World Anti-Doping Agency.
Yet Armstrong attorney Tim Herman denied that Armstrong has reached out to USADA chief executive Travis Tygart and David Howman, director general of the World Anti-Doping Agency.
Herman told The Associated Press he had no knowledge of Armstrong considering a confession and said: “When, and if, Lance has something to say, there won’t be any secret about it.”
5 Jan 2013, 18:10 pm
@nortierd-270:
hi Charles, jammer ek was vir n rukkie besig, ek is goed dankie en hoop jy ook?
yip, dit lyk maar so. dit sou vir hom miskien beter gewees het, het hy net vroeer sy skuldigheid toegelaat. seker maar omdat hy soveel meer gehaad het om te verloor wou hy nie?
ek weet jy sal nie hiermee saam stem nie maar vir my is daar niks verskillend tessun die all blacks, richie macaw en lance armstrong nie.
baie fietsryers was al uitgevang vir dwelms verbruik en baie nie, en ek moet se oneerlikheid is vir my oneerlikheid, of dit nou wel is om dwelms te vat of vir byvoorbeeld konsekwent op die verkeede kant van die losskrum te val oor en oor tydens n wedstryd en oor en oor tydens n loopbaan, is dit oneerlikheid. die reels is hieroor duidelik.
jy sal dink dis reg vir fietstryers om uitgevang te word vir dwelms vat, nou hoe verskillend is dit dan om te verwag dat mense regverdig gestraf sal word vir oneerlikheid in rugdy?
jammer, dis my net my ‘rant’ vir die dag
use it, dont use it….
ek is weer uit vir n bietjie, cheers.
@Neilanate-271:
hahaha
ok sorry then, my apologies.
out of curiosity, who was it?
have to go, back later.
5 Jan 2013, 18:14 pm
@Neilanate-275:
@Neilanate-276:
ok, very interesting thanks.
seems its not so clear cut still.
will be following it.
5 Jan 2013, 18:16 pm
And he has more EGO desires than any deity! The result of all the drugs his father consumed before using his compromised sperm cells to conceive poor Lance
Lance Armstrong Contemplates Coming Clean
Jan 5 2013
Lance Armstrong, who this fall was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles for doping and barred for life from competing in all Olympic sports, has told associates and antidoping officials that he is considering publicly admitting that he used banned performance-enhancing drugs and blood transfusions during his cycling career, according to several people with direct knowledge of the situation. He would do this, the people said, because he wants to persuade antidoping officials to restore his eligibility so he can resume his athletic career.
Lance Armstrong in the fifth stage of the Tour de France in 2004.
Lance Armstrong hopes to compete in triathlons. Athletes who have doped may be eligible for a reduced punishment if they fully confess.
For more than a decade, Armstrong has vehemently denied ever doping, even after antidoping officials laid out their case against him in October in hundreds of pages of eyewitness testimony from teammates, e-mail correspondence, financial records and laboratory analyses.
When asked if Armstrong might admit to doping, Tim Herman, Armstrong’s longtime lawyer, said, “Lance has to speak for himself on that.”
5 Jan 2013, 18:22 pm
-277:
The answer is to be found in post 276. Look at the time of the Associated Press report and you will see it their in capitals.
5 Jan 2013, 18:32 pm
@Neilanate-272:
The figure of 60% does not mean that only 60% has doped since 2004….in fact, the figure is only an indication of the absolute minimum who doped – Armstrong, for example, won the tour in 2004 and 2005 and as he has never tested positive is NOT included in the 60%- he is surely not the only one to have “escaped”?
Tyler Hamilton, who, as you probably know, played a central role in the whole doping issue, is of the opinion that at least 80% of the WHOLE peleton doped when he (Tyler) started to dope. That figure could be a better indication of the level of doping then the 60% who tested positive since sbout 2004.
Exactly how clean the peleton today is, is anyones guess but there is evidence (like lower average speed or lower levels of power per weight produced by riders on climbs) that it is cleaner then in those days.
It will probably be never 100% clean- but the same applies to other sports.
5 Jan 2013, 19:20 pm
Most of the so-called US sports stars are roided to the eyeballs, there doesn’t appear to be the same stigma associated with it over there to the point where even drug testing organisations will turn a blind eye to it.
5 Jan 2013, 19:35 pm
” …….. only about 6 of the top 10 cyclists in the Tour …. ”
The global cycling body’s words “of the TOP TEN” is eminently specific and abundantly self-explanatory.
It does not have to answer to any pathetic mug’s hopeless misinterpretation and/or misunderstanding of its simple meaning(in any language) however they may speculate with figures or per centages arising from such gross error/s.
Discussion closed. Cheap talk is not an interest of mine.
5 Jan 2013, 19:55 pm
Kehla Rye… relax. Wasn’t meant like that…
Was bl.oody hot there… but view from mont aux sources was well worth it… and guilt free beers afterward to rehydrate… not that beer induces any guilt whatsoever anyway…
Visited an unkempt war grave for the rooinekke on one of the farms in your area… some of the party’s ancestors expired at spionkop…
5 Jan 2013, 19:59 pm
Compliments of the season.ET… hope you didnt freeze your n.uts off that side… will be good to see some more of your posts in this sea of oft inane sanctimonius idiocy…
5 Jan 2013, 20:00 pm
@Big Hit-282:
Football and Baseball for sure, about 80% to the hilt
Basketball an exception, it tends to finish off the pros’ knees too fast for whatever reason
Golf’s also affected, see Tiger and Dr Galea, it’s all a hash hash business
There was no PEDs testing at the last RWC in 2011 for whatever reason
There was no testing by an independent, reputable doping agency at the London Olympic, the testing conducted by the AOC in-house, which tells it all to those who can think for themselves.
Armstrong was tested 3 times each day during the Tour de France since 1999 and was never found positive, a Federal court in the US refused to charge him last February, all the rest is a smear campaign designed to generate higher TV and media rating in these harsh economic times.
5 Jan 2013, 20:05 pm
BH you will not be able to legally support such a specific claim as “roided”, whatever it means. All of baseball, Am. football(grid. pro and college), basketball, hockey, horse-racing and more have suspended dopers.
Doping includes much more than steroid intake. Red cell storing for subsequent infusion just before an event and accompanied by plasma infusion, & saline infusion both leading to dilution of those non-physiologically added RBC are all and more part of blood doping and thus cheating. With these procedures followed to the T by any medical expert, like Dr. Ferrari, and for days even during an event makes it exceedingly difficult to proof such doping by any meaningful tests. Hence the appeal for culprits to admit to such when outed by others.
If you consider how many millions of dollars are spent to effect such doping efforts you get an idea how elitist such procedures are relative to specific drug use.such as steroids, EPO and such like.
Even designer cheat drugs are eventually revealed by tests but always it is a case of catching up with the cheating pharmacologists much like the police with a criminal(after the event).
5 Jan 2013, 20:20 pm
@Heavens Game-285:
I do not want to address you too negatively as you are manfully alone against the sanctimonious, bum slapping and front patting mob, most of the time. Don’t ever succumb to the immoral hound-pack ‘barstards’
I am now in East London but your buddy is somewhere on a smallholding on the Cape West Coast trying to buy such before heading back north. So with it being high summer in S.Africa neither of us know anything about ” freeze your n.uts off “.
I will see him before he leaves late next week and will point out your post.
5 Jan 2013, 20:31 pm
You must be ETs twin… but good man… manfully? no ballas needed at all in this part of the blogosphere… more a digital stressball… take the mick for the fun of it….
5 Jan 2013, 23:51 pm
Houston, I see you are still of the belief that the new Tmo responsibilities will somehow thwart Nz sides chances in the Super Comp, can’t see it happening. Nz sides will adapt as I assume will all the other teams. I see you are using the introduction of the widening of Tmo influence in on field decision making as your chance to renege on your claim you will “not watch Super Rugby”…..good for you, then you will see for yourself your claims of Crusader,Chiefs,Nz cheating is baseless. In fact you will feel reinvigorated in your love for the game once you take the blinkers off and view the spectacle in a positive way.
I go into this years comp confident of Nz chances of lifting another title due to the fact the Nz conference have five teams capable of making the playoffs, that is the true strength of the Nz system….not your and others view that the Kings will gift the other Sa sides 10 points so allowing a easier passage into the playoffs….Will certainly enjoy your comments when the Bulls get pulled up by the Tmo’s for their “Truck and Trailer Tragedies”
5 Jan 2013, 23:53 pm
if there ever be a case of bum slapping superstitious pagan god fearing cohorts parading their love for one another these two goddamn creeps along with the 3rd in the degenerate tryst love in above are it
6 Jan 2013, 00:55 am
@Te Rangatira-290:
TR
It’s irrelevant whether NZ have 5 teams who can make the play offs or not, the conference system already disqualifies 2 teams.
My bet would be 3 NZ, 2 SA and the one compulsory Aus side making up the top 6.
I’m interested to see how the Highlanders will fare considering the players and experience they have acquired.
6 Jan 2013, 01:07 am
@nortierd-292:
Hi nortierd….I don’t think its irrelevant in the wider scheme of things that Nz has 5 competitive sides. I’m of the belief greater competition breeds better players, therefore more players to choose from, for the Rep sides. You are correct in saying that Nz may have three, two or perhaps one team in the playoffs, but their is also the slight outside chance 4 teams could sneak in…..who knows
6 Jan 2013, 04:19 am
The Highlanders acquiring of Thorn,Woodcock and Nonu, you would sense they should go better than next year. They need their injured stars from last year to stay fit and healthy if they are to be true contenders…John Hardie,Lima Sapoaga and Collin Slade. Yes looks like an improved side from last year and I expect them to finish second in the Nz Conference
6 Jan 2013, 08:23 am
@Te Rangatira-293:
You right, maybe irrelevant is not the right word.
I wouldn’t discount the Sharks, Bulls or Stormers too soon though.
Crusaders will be without their talisman, the Blues must pick themselves up from last years shambles, Hurricanes always look good on paper but fail to deliver.
6 Jan 2013, 08:46 am
@skopdiekan-291:
Dont you worry, dont you worry child
See Heavens got a plan for you
Dont you worry, dont you worry now…
Blasphemous runt…
6 Jan 2013, 08:53 am
@Te Rangatira-294: If Highlanders sustain their unequalled counter rucking game, hard D and add a bit more on attack then they truly will be a threat…
I enjoy Jamie Joseph – seems a good, hard, no nonsense coach… as he was when a player…
One farken hard mofo…
Not so convinced Chiefs will repeat last year… They might make playoffs but other NZ teams are more of a threat IMO…
Canes could be the real dark horse…
6 Jan 2013, 09:02 am
Playoffs could well be
SA
Sharks (By far SA’s best chance this year), Bulls (Better than most, here at least, give credit for, especially if they harness and use their backs… This year, Ludeke could prove that actually he was more than half the brains behind the Bulls success after all)
(Not convinced Jantjies will be a good fit for the Stormers D first over everything else, no try style… I also reckon some astute coaches will unlock the Stormers D patterns on which they depend not to lose)
NZ
2 of
Saders/Highlanders/Chiefs
Aus
Will “surprisingly” – at least on this blograg, have 2 in the playoffs…
Brumbies
Reds
6 Jan 2013, 09:34 am
@Heavens Game-284: Hi HG.My sincere apologies.You get days and you get days Immediately I posted wanted to withdraw it
Spionkop war memorial is a disgrace.Covered in cow patties.
From amphitheatre to Mont ax Source best view in SA particularly
when covered in snow.
Must have been vey hot.Go well
6 Jan 2013, 09:44 am
@Heavens Game-298:
Something stinks like Nkandla afterbirth here…. Peadophilia?
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