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	<title>Comments on: Guildford back at the booze</title>
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		<title>By: gonzo</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314989</link>
		<dc:creator>gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314793&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NZINCHINA-59&lt;/a&gt;: From what I&#039;ve read, the police weren&#039;t even involved. He told Blackadder on his own accord. So the worst that can happen to him is they rip up his contract and he goes to Europe to make his millions.

The conspiracy theorist in me tells me nothing actually happened and it&#039;s just a ruse to get out of his contract at the Crusaders and go home to play for the Chiefs. The optimist in me tells me he&#039;s going to the Blues. Thank god he&#039;s already been capped or he&#039;d be a Wallaby in no time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314793" rel="nofollow">NZINCHINA-59</a>: From what I&#8217;ve read, the police weren&#8217;t even involved. He told Blackadder on his own accord. So the worst that can happen to him is they rip up his contract and he goes to Europe to make his millions.</p>
<p>The conspiracy theorist in me tells me nothing actually happened and it&#8217;s just a ruse to get out of his contract at the Crusaders and go home to play for the Chiefs. The optimist in me tells me he&#8217;s going to the Blues. Thank god he&#8217;s already been capped or he&#8217;d be a Wallaby in no time.</p>
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		<title>By: NZINCHINA</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314793</link>
		<dc:creator>NZINCHINA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His brother got convicted for the third time last year for drinking and driving, in NZ it takes about 7 to 9 DIC convictions before you get a custodial sentence, Zac can f uck up plenty more times before anything serious happens and he&#039;ll have plenty of supporters all the way making excuses for him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His brother got convicted for the third time last year for drinking and driving, in NZ it takes about 7 to 9 DIC convictions before you get a custodial sentence, Zac can f uck up plenty more times before anything serious happens and he&#8217;ll have plenty of supporters all the way making excuses for him.</p>
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		<title>By: gunther</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314658</link>
		<dc:creator>gunther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What was the incident?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the incident?</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314648</link>
		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314619&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nortierd-45&lt;/a&gt;: lol and tx again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314619" rel="nofollow">nortierd-45</a>: lol and tx again</p>
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		<title>By: The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314644</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314638&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hurricane-52&lt;/a&gt;: Howdy Hurri. I always hold those who suffer the effects of substance abuse to a sightly different set of rules. The playing field isn&#039;t level if one judges Zac in the same way one woud judge a fella who pitches up late for work 50 days in a row.

As I say, that&#039;s just me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314638" rel="nofollow">Hurricane-52</a>: Howdy Hurri. I always hold those who suffer the effects of substance abuse to a sightly different set of rules. The playing field isn&#8217;t level if one judges Zac in the same way one woud judge a fella who pitches up late for work 50 days in a row.</p>
<p>As I say, that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314643</link>
		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314599&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ryecatcher-39&lt;/a&gt;: Can be controlled.Never
cured]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314599" rel="nofollow">ryecatcher-39</a>: Can be controlled.Never<br />
cured</p>
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		<title>By: ufo</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314640</link>
		<dc:creator>ufo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314637&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ryecatcher-51&lt;/a&gt;: 

thank you rye...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314637" rel="nofollow">ryecatcher-51</a>: </p>
<p>thank you rye&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ufo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ufo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314624&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-47&lt;/a&gt;: 

:wink:

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314626&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;munkiboi-48&lt;/a&gt;: 

that is hectic... and makes a criminal case out of it...

but i still believe the kid needs support rather than being kicked to the curb...

a few south african players have been guilty of public drug taking, assault and even murder but still enjoyed generous support from their unions and many keo posters...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314624" rel="nofollow">The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-47</a>: </p>
<p> <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-2314626" rel="nofollow">munkiboi-48</a>: </p>
<p>that is hectic&#8230; and makes a criminal case out of it&#8230;</p>
<p>but i still believe the kid needs support rather than being kicked to the curb&#8230;</p>
<p>a few south african players have been guilty of public drug taking, assault and even murder but still enjoyed generous support from their unions and many keo posters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314638</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do not agree with giving him another chance.
He was warned earlier. Like any job if you do not listen to the boss...you will get fired. Think about it...the Boss says do not do that again.... and you do it again. Would you expect to be sacked? I would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not agree with giving him another chance.<br />
He was warned earlier. Like any job if you do not listen to the boss&#8230;you will get fired. Think about it&#8230;the Boss says do not do that again&#8230;. and you do it again. Would you expect to be sacked? I would.</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314637</link>
		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314539&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ufo-14&lt;/a&gt;: great post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314539" rel="nofollow">ufo-14</a>: great post</p>
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		<title>By: ufo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ufo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314621&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormer in a teacup-46&lt;/a&gt;: 

shot bud...

yeah... he needs to sort himself out... it has to be a personal decision by every alcoholic... but very few alcoholics can do it alone... as pedigree says, he needs a support system... and as his father died in what must have been very unsettling circumstances... who does he have to council or mentor him... 

a little bit of compassion and assistance will go a lot further than a lot of judgment and insults...

but as you say... some time away from the spotlight would be advisable right now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314621" rel="nofollow">stormer in a teacup-46</a>: </p>
<p>shot bud&#8230;</p>
<p>yeah&#8230; he needs to sort himself out&#8230; it has to be a personal decision by every alcoholic&#8230; but very few alcoholics can do it alone&#8230; as pedigree says, he needs a support system&#8230; and as his father died in what must have been very unsettling circumstances&#8230; who does he have to council or mentor him&#8230; </p>
<p>a little bit of compassion and assistance will go a lot further than a lot of judgment and insults&#8230;</p>
<p>but as you say&#8230; some time away from the spotlight would be advisable right now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nortierd</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314628</link>
		<dc:creator>nortierd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314626&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;munkiboi-48&lt;/a&gt;: 
Thanks, keep us posted as things unfold.
You are right, it will be more difficult to garner sympathy if that is the case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314626" rel="nofollow">munkiboi-48</a>:<br />
Thanks, keep us posted as things unfold.<br />
You are right, it will be more difficult to garner sympathy if that is the case.</p>
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		<title>By: munkiboi</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314626</link>
		<dc:creator>munkiboi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rumours being spread on the radio here in NZ indicate that Zac may have been more than just drunk.  apparently he was waking up sleeping or passed out people at the house party by punching them in the face.

being drunk is one thing but getting drunk and assaulting people, would be harder to ignore - IF it is true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rumours being spread on the radio here in NZ indicate that Zac may have been more than just drunk.  apparently he was waking up sleeping or passed out people at the house party by punching them in the face.</p>
<p>being drunk is one thing but getting drunk and assaulting people, would be harder to ignore &#8211; IF it is true.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/20/guildford-back-at-the-booze/#comment-2314624</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314589&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ryecatcher-34&lt;/a&gt;: Howdy Rye :) I had a HECTIC weekend..... Cricket on Saturday (burnt to sh y te once again....it really was hot in Paarl...and all that pain for what? A LOSS. Athough awesome game, and huge congrats to the Black Caps - well deserved victory).
Yesterday I did my best Lance Armstrong impression......butfuckedoutbadly on the bike. 

I was in contact with Dawn and she suggested I take a &#039;tablet&#039;. I felt that I needed a blood transfusion :) Such was my exhaustion, with 19 km&#039;s still to cycle. When Dawn BBM&#039;d me, I was sitting on the side of the road.....sucking on my water bottle and gasping like a guppie in a final - I cycle, but it isn&#039;t my strongest or fave discipline, and I was reminded of that once again yesterday :)

I hope you had a great weekend. And yes, alcoholism (often coupled with a personality disorder) is a disease. If they chuck him out, I would expect them to chuck out a fella who injures his ligaments as well.
Disease and injury IS disease and injury = we can&#039;t start bringing in &#039;levels&#039; to suit our own &#039;morals&#039;.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314596&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ufo-38&lt;/a&gt;: Howdy :) Wise words in your earlier post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314589" rel="nofollow">ryecatcher-34</a>: Howdy Rye <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I had a HECTIC weekend&#8230;.. Cricket on Saturday (burnt to sh y te once again&#8230;.it really was hot in Paarl&#8230;and all that pain for what? A LOSS. Athough awesome game, and huge congrats to the Black Caps &#8211; well deserved victory).<br />
Yesterday I did my best Lance Armstrong impression&#8230;&#8230;butfuckedoutbadly on the bike. </p>
<p>I was in contact with Dawn and she suggested I take a &#8216;tablet&#8217;. I felt that I needed a blood transfusion <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Such was my exhaustion, with 19 km&#8217;s still to cycle. When Dawn BBM&#8217;d me, I was sitting on the side of the road&#8230;..sucking on my water bottle and gasping like a guppie in a final &#8211; I cycle, but it isn&#8217;t my strongest or fave discipline, and I was reminded of that once again yesterday <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I hope you had a great weekend. And yes, alcoholism (often coupled with a personality disorder) is a disease. If they chuck him out, I would expect them to chuck out a fella who injures his ligaments as well.<br />
Disease and injury IS disease and injury = we can&#8217;t start bringing in &#8216;levels&#8217; to suit our own &#8216;morals&#8217;.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-2314596" rel="nofollow">ufo-38</a>: Howdy <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Wise words in your earlier post.</p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314539&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ufo-14&lt;/a&gt;: Well said. It is easy to judge others when we have not lived their lives.
 This young fellow needs to sort his personal problems out first because he can only play rugby for a short time, but he has his whole life to consider if he lets the booze get the upper hand.
Rugby, like all sports, is concious of its image and the standards of behaviour its wants to promote and be associated with. Perhaps he is better off away from the spotlight and condemnation that follows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314539" rel="nofollow">ufo-14</a>: Well said. It is easy to judge others when we have not lived their lives.<br />
 This young fellow needs to sort his personal problems out first because he can only play rugby for a short time, but he has his whole life to consider if he lets the booze get the upper hand.<br />
Rugby, like all sports, is concious of its image and the standards of behaviour its wants to promote and be associated with. Perhaps he is better off away from the spotlight and condemnation that follows.</p>
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		<title>By: nortierd</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortierd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314611&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ryecatcher-43&lt;/a&gt;: 
:-)
Sounds like Gary Player.
&quot; the more I practice the luckier I get&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314611" rel="nofollow">ryecatcher-43</a>:<br />
 <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Sounds like Gary Player.<br />
&#8221; the more I practice the luckier I get&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314607&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nortierd-42&lt;/a&gt;: tx very much]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314607" rel="nofollow">nortierd-42</a>: tx very much</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314586&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-31&lt;/a&gt;: I can have  6 drinks w ith no obvious ill effects
(years of practce)Th e alcoholic  will have 1 and be smashed
How lucky(not cl ever) am I? .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314586" rel="nofollow">The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-31</a>: I can have  6 drinks w ith no obvious ill effects<br />
(years of practce)Th e alcoholic  will have 1 and be smashed<br />
How lucky(not cl ever) am I? .</p>
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		<title>By: nortierd</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortierd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2314605&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ryecatcher-41&lt;/a&gt;: 
It fills up to quick, will post again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2314605" rel="nofollow">ryecatcher-41</a>:<br />
It fills up to quick, will post again</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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