Crackdown on school drug cheats
21 Jan 2013
Schoolboy rugby players caught doping could be suspended for three months or more or face expulsion.
The Cape Argus reports that a new testing programme launches on Monday, spearheaded by the SA Institute of Drug-Free Sport (Saids), which aims to eradicate a growing trend of steroid and drug use among teenagers in schools.
‘The testing will occur at any time and will not only be limited to athletes,’ said Saids chief executive Khalid Grant.
Substances that will be prohibited according to the programme include diuretics (which mask the presence of performance-enhancing drugs by flushing them out of the system), stimulants and steroids. Around 100 of South Africa’s top schools have signed up for the programme that will allow a school’s principle or Saids delegate to test any pupil suspected of doping.
According to Rapport, 18 out of 62 children independently tested in the past six months had positive results for drugs so dangerous they could lead to death.
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21 Jan 2013, 12:32 pm
@stormersboy-97:
Ah yes. Sorry missed that.
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-95:
Yeah I must say, I vascilate between what you said in this post and what Transie said earlier.
Which was basically, if there was just one other dude who wasnt doping then he is just a cheat. And only a cheat. Nothing else. This part of me says ‘I dont care whether he was a superior mentally or physically.’ He is nothing more than criminal who got away with it and should never be recognised as anything but that. Harsh but fair.
21 Jan 2013, 12:37 pm
@stormersboy-75:
Only have to google all the WWF Wrestlers who have died from heart failure and suicide from prolonged steroid abuse.
21 Jan 2013, 12:39 pm
@David-100: I’m separating the gifted athlete from the sociopath here.
See my post 99.
Sociopath, Narcissist, twat etc etc etc – all fair calls.
But a gifted and supreme athlete none the less.
21 Jan 2013, 12:45 pm
@Robzim-98:
“He is a cheat and not a nice person but certainly one of the best endurance athletes in the history of sport.”
The two don’t go together.
21 Jan 2013, 12:52 pm
Sorry, Pedigreefool,but Lance Armstrong isn’t the greatest cyclist of all time.He got nothing,zero,zilch titles to be considerd as one of the greats.He will go down as the greatest cheat in the history of cycling.He has been found out as a drugs cheat,fraudster and fake.You are making sweeping statements to say that everybody cheated.Give us the proof.Armstrong deceived everyone connected to cycling…and that will be his legacy for generations to come.Armstrong and Ben Johnson will go down in sporting history as the greatest cheats and liars of our era.
21 Jan 2013, 12:57 pm
@Dawn-104:
Doping can not turn a chump into a champ.
You must also read it in the context of the culture and extend of doping (cheating) in professional cycling.
Even the great Eddy Merckx (widely considered as the best cyclist of all time) has tested positive during his career. Today he is seen as a hero by millions.
The Armstrong saga is only the tip of the iceberg- read this article re doping in soccer for example:
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1786/fifa/2013/01/18/3682007/soccer-must-follow-lance-armstrong-and-admit-it-has-a-doping
21 Jan 2013, 13:02 pm
“He also won a USA Navy Seals triathlon about two months ago smashing the previous record by about 10 minutes beating a current olympion and a former world duathlon champion (he eventually outran the bloke!) in the process – remember he is already 41 and its unlikely that he could train properly taking into consideration the turnmoil his life must be in over the last few months.”
How did he do this if he was “clean” at the time?
21 Jan 2013, 13:06 pm
@wnbb-105: Denying that Armstrong or Johnson for that matter, were supremely gifted athletes is foolish. Even the finest ‘performance enhancer’ needs superior raw material to work with…..
As Robzim said earlier….who do they give Lance’s titles to, and why haven’t they awarded them to someone?
You’ve got to go back to the fella who finished 175th to find the 1st cyclist with a 100% dope free record. So I guess it’s him then? Yet they haven’t awarded those titles to ANYONE. Why isn’t the dude who came 175th and is allegedly clean protesting in pubic and demanding his title/s?
21 Jan 2013, 13:07 pm
Sydney – An Australian library has found itself in the spotlight after it put up a sign declaring all books by disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong would soon be moved to the fiction section.
The notice posted by a part-time staffer at Manly Library read: “All non-fiction Lance Armstrong books, including ‘Lance Armstrong: Images of a Champion’, ‘The Lance Armstrong Performance Program’ and ‘Lance Armstrong: The World’s Greatest Champion’ will soon be moved to the fiction section”.
21 Jan 2013, 13:08 pm
@Robzim-106: Who was the fella who died doing the tour in the 60′s I think? His blood was full of ‘substances’ and alcohol at the time?
That’s how far back it goes………
21 Jan 2013, 13:12 pm
Ok. All things aside…this has to be the comment of the year re: Armstrong. A hilarious poster on News24 says:
“I am actually impressed by what Lance Armstrong has accomplished. When I was on drugs, I couldn’t even find my bike”
Preshen Govender.
21 Jan 2013, 13:13 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-108:
i call b#[[$hit
if Armstrong was even half as incredible as you say he was, why didn’t he do it without drugs?
the guy’s a drug taking cheat with a thoroughly dislikeable personality to boot.
***** him
and ***** his drug enhanced achievements too.
21 Jan 2013, 13:17 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-110:
Ja, i think it was Tom Simpson from England.
The story goes that they picked him up on the slopes of the Alps or Pirenees – he was already semi – unconcious but begged them to put him back on his bike and muttered something like : ” Must go on..must go on.!..
Cycling at that level is about who can handle the suffering the most so i guess the substances pushed him over the limits that his body could take.
21 Jan 2013, 13:23 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-112: Ok Bakkies, now tell me how you really feel
I really am aware that very few people share my opinion, and that’s fine.
I see him as the finest cyclist of his generation – klaar.
(Just reflect on this though: When people like Mike Haysman are writing columns on how ‘disgusting, crooked and evil’ Lance is, yet remaining rather quiet when it comes to rants and tantrums on match fixing and cheating in cricket; you HAVE to wonder just why it is the world has lost the plot completely in terms of Lance and his ‘sins’. Does it make the planet ‘feel better’ if they all join in the crucifixion? Do they think that their lies and cheating in everyday life is somehow “less harmful or evil” than Lance’s?
I expect to see the same moral outrage throughout the world, in all future incidents of doping, cheating, match fixing, corruption, payoffs etc – big or small…..(as there is no Dante’s Inferno with various levels of ‘sin’.)
21 Jan 2013, 13:33 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-108: Give us the proof or shut the fark up.Harping on about them not awarding the titles to anyone else doesn’t cut it .
21 Jan 2013, 13:35 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-114:
Ja ek het dieselfde probleem gehad, maar ek was ‘n slim Jan.
21 Jan 2013, 13:37 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-114:
it should be treated the same, regardless.
correct me if i’m worng but didn’t Bradley Wiggins compete in the TdF from about 2007 to the present? if the 100 & odd c.unts ahead of him were not drug taking dooses he quite likely would have fared much, much better.
as long as there was even one person in that competition doing their honest best and playing by the rules, there is no argument or justification which will ever, ever make a person like Armstrong or that slimy, strange looking Spaniard or anyone for that matter come off in a deserving or somewhat better light.
they unfairly took what never should have been theirs from others who have now lost out in the annals of history the reward and honour of having their story told.
(incidentally, this is the same way i feel about NZ rugby).
21 Jan 2013, 13:38 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-114:
Yes match fixing.
It only happened recently with the blackcaps beating the proteas….. this game needs to be checked.
21 Jan 2013, 13:39 pm
What a bunch of morons,these two Armstrong apologists!How sweet to see them cozying up to each other trying to convince the world that Lance is a sound bloke and is still the greates of all the cheats.The fact that that assertion is ethically and morally wrong doesn’t register on their radar beggars belief.
21 Jan 2013, 13:40 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-117:
“(incidentally, this is the same way i feel about NZ rugby).”
The way you feel about NZ rugby is a pathetic joke with not one bit of proof of any of the dumb claims you have bought up.
Blah blah blah.
21 Jan 2013, 13:41 pm
Federer….machine …
21 Jan 2013, 13:42 pm
Just as well Armstrong is not a Kiwi….Bakkies would be bloody unplayable…
21 Jan 2013, 13:44 pm
@grant10-122:
Die Blou Bul Unie het ‘n goeie storie vir Britney uitgedink. Mooi na hom gekyk.
21 Jan 2013, 13:45 pm
@wnbb-119:
Ag, just get off your high horse. The way you are carrying on one would say you have never cripped at primary school
21 Jan 2013, 13:46 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-117:
Why is this needed in SA, you’ve told us how clean and fair you play your rugby without cheating etc surely this is a waste of time and money as nobody in SA would contemplate doing this ?
21 Jan 2013, 13:47 pm
@wnbb-119: Two people can’t be a ‘bunch’ of morons…….. This makes little sense, What a bunch of morons, these two Armstrong apologists. FYI of course.
The proof is on the world wide web for all to see my friend. Type in the names of the top cyclists from the last 12 years. Remembering that Lance last won the TDF in 2005….
Take a peek.
@Britney Spies-116:
@Hurricane-118: Don’t get Bakkies started….A well deserved win that was. I was there in that Paarl heat….to witness the Mcullums air punching….
21 Jan 2013, 13:47 pm
@Hurricane-120:
i’m not here to get into an argument with you.
it is my opinion, and that is that.
one country has unfairly taken what should never have belonged to it from another country, and that country has now lost out in the annals of history the reward and honour of having its story told.
slice it and dice it however you like
cheating is cheating
(for what its worth, we expose our dopers)
21 Jan 2013, 13:48 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-126:
Bakkies vloek my tot in volgende week.
21 Jan 2013, 13:48 pm
Federer reaches his 137 th consecutive Grand Slam quarter finals…..
Vokkit…
21 Jan 2013, 13:49 pm
surelythat cant be right? He would need to be about 70 !
21 Jan 2013, 13:49 pm
@Robzim-124: This is my point exactly. Lance has become a ‘modern day Hitler’, to be hated and pelted from all corners, because it makes people feel better about their own lies, deception and cheating in general….
How wonderful to have someone else to pelt?
21 Jan 2013, 13:50 pm
@grant10-129:
Tomic van doer onder het mos gese hy gaan hom ‘n tennis les gee. Die dom donner.
21 Jan 2013, 13:51 pm
@NZINCHINA-125:
Bakkies will be hunting the Kiwi newspapers to find a comeback
21 Jan 2013, 13:51 pm
@Britney Spies-128: Can you tell me Britney, just why it was that you went to Italy (yes ITALY….) on a ‘pre planned’ holiday, just before the 2011 World Cup, when the rest of the Bok squad were already in training camp?
21 Jan 2013, 13:52 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-134:
Ek mag nie die Dokters se naam se nie. Vra vir Lance!
21 Jan 2013, 13:52 pm
@NZINCHINA-125:
we make every effort to out drugging or cheating of any kind, China
you can be sure of that.
and to the drug takers we don’t catch…’you are dooses’
21 Jan 2013, 13:53 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-127:
Well is drug cheats cheating?
Didnt Goosen get caught with drugs in his blood?
It was an accident…like the bok players that were sent home during a tour a few years ago…another accident. Makes you wonder does it not?
21 Jan 2013, 13:54 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-131:
I see that the story of Armstrong might be heading for the big screen as Star Trek director JJ Abrams has optioned the forthcoming book “Cycle of lies: The fall of L.A. by a New York Times reporter with the intention of turning it into a high – profile film.
Maybe they can get ET to play the role as his “procecutor” .
Bakkies can play the role of an angel or something
21 Jan 2013, 13:54 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-136:
Die blou bul eet nie van die vloer af nie.
21 Jan 2013, 13:54 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-126: Will you be happy with ‘ two farking morons’?
21 Jan 2013, 13:54 pm
I wonder if, say the 2005 tour de france was recycled without any drug involvement from any competitor (guaranteed), who would win?
I’ve got a suspicion it would still be Armstrong.
21 Jan 2013, 13:55 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-136:
Well it seems your players are not listening .
18 of 62 were positive…… damn that is a huge amount. …disgusting really.
21 Jan 2013, 13:55 pm
@Hurricane-133:
He he if what old Bakkies says is true they’ll test millions and won’t find a single person.
21 Jan 2013, 13:57 pm
@Hurricane-142:
What you fail to understand is that those 18 had just returned from a rugby tour to Auckland. Nou daar le die ding.
21 Jan 2013, 13:57 pm
@NZINCHINA-143:
They have only tested 62 in 6 months… there is alot more rugby players in SA.
21 Jan 2013, 13:58 pm
@Britney Spies-144:
Bet they lost as well.
21 Jan 2013, 14:00 pm
@Britney Spies-135: Dr Doolittle?
@Hurricane-137: This is my point about cheating/doping/lying in any way, shape or form. It’s the same thing…..yet Lance is being crucified as if had murdered 9000 Pygmy children, 350 senior citizens and an assortment of puppies….
Such is the ‘hate’. Why only him?
@wnbb-140: Indeed I will.
@TooMuchRugby-141: Of that I have zero doubt. The man’s true abiity has convenienty been forgotten in all this.
21 Jan 2013, 14:00 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-136:
You said there was no cheating in SA rugby of any sort, the cleanest and fairest rugby playing nation on earth, I’m going to have to reconsider watching SA teams now although with this new testing procedure I might change my mind I’ll let you know.
21 Jan 2013, 14:00 pm
@Hurricane-146:
No we found them and tested them. They were not lost.
21 Jan 2013, 14:01 pm
@Hurricane-142: Hurri, the schools here ate FULL of this sh y te. They are getting into gear now re: testing etc. Focusing on ‘out of season testing’ as well. That is where the true answers lie…..Out of season.
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