Crackdown on school drug cheats
21 Jan 2013
Schoolboy rugby players caught doping could be suspended for three months or more or face expulsion.
The Cape Argus reports that a new testing programme launches on Monday, spearheaded by the SA Institute of Drug-Free Sport (Saids), which aims to eradicate a growing trend of steroid and drug use among teenagers in schools.
‘The testing will occur at any time and will not only be limited to athletes,’ said Saids chief executive Khalid Grant.
Substances that will be prohibited according to the programme include diuretics (which mask the presence of performance-enhancing drugs by flushing them out of the system), stimulants and steroids. Around 100 of South Africa’s top schools have signed up for the programme that will allow a school’s principle or Saids delegate to test any pupil suspected of doping.
According to Rapport, 18 out of 62 children independently tested in the past six months had positive results for drugs so dangerous they could lead to death.
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21 Jan 2013, 16:07 pm
Bakkies must still be in that urgent meeting.
21 Jan 2013, 16:09 pm
Indurain -5 titles in a row
Armstrong – 7 tainted titles and now taken away from him.Zero titles then,Pedifool?
21 Jan 2013, 16:11 pm
@NZINCHINA-251: ….or on his daily walk after his mind was taken over by screaming voices again.
21 Jan 2013, 16:11 pm
that’s like me sticking my neck out for a doped up michael jordan & maintaining that His Airness is the greatest even though he had goon running down his bald head…
ridic…
21 Jan 2013, 16:12 pm
@wnbb-253:
He’s going to be shattered after the revelations on here tonight.
21 Jan 2013, 16:16 pm
@NZINCHINA-233:
haha
funny, China
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-234:
that was my point to China and Hurri.
at least here we expose it because its wrong.
21 Jan 2013, 16:16 pm
@Transformation-248: So you wouldn’t count Diego Maradona as a football great? Despite cheating with the Hand of God?
What about batsmen that knicked and don’t walk if the umpire doesn’t give them out?
21 Jan 2013, 16:21 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-256:
Lets not drag this on for hours/weeks/months/seasons/years like you do about cheating, lets nip it in the bud right now – Bakkies does cheating (doping) exist in SA? ( you are under oath)
21 Jan 2013, 16:23 pm
Oh well
I used to admire these riders
No more.
21 Jan 2013, 16:23 pm
@NZINCHINA-258:
What’s your point
You already asked Willie
21 Jan 2013, 16:27 pm
@wnbb-252: 7 Titles in the hearts and minds of humble cycling fans…..
Indurain was an incredible competitor….. Armstrong was the TDF rider of the century.
21 Jan 2013, 16:32 pm
@willievz-257: i hate cheats!
21 Jan 2013, 16:33 pm
@Transformation-262: Hehe, you must hate a lot of Kiwis then
21 Jan 2013, 16:38 pm
Bakkies you must still be in that urgent meeting, I’ll check your answer in the morning – cheers.
21 Jan 2013, 16:39 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-261: Well…
This century is only 12 years and a bit old…
21 Jan 2013, 16:42 pm
@willievz-265: Ooops, realise my cockupnow…. The greatest since 1903.
21 Jan 2013, 16:43 pm
I’m not trying to make a sweeping statement here, or maybe I am, but several saffer mates have told me ‘roids are pretty widespread in SA. Is that true? Could be in NZ but I’ve never been a gym junkie so I wouldn’t know. We tend to have slightly less problems with drugs unless they can be manufactured locally, which could explain our drinking problems.
@Hurricane-137: Goosen was caught and as far as I know, banned for a few months. But he used the classic PdV excuse – “It was the energy drinks”. Similar to but even more effective than the “it was the hormones in the chicken I ate last night” excuse. They banned him anyway and told him he’s responsible for anything going into his body.
21 Jan 2013, 16:45 pm
@gonzo-267: You’re correct. Most of us have admitted it. The denialists need a reaity check. Fitness circles rock with the sh y te.
21 Jan 2013, 16:46 pm
@NZINCHINA-258:
whats your point, China
i havn’t said its never happened?
read the article, 18 schoolboys out of 62 have tested positve.
if its happening it needs to be dealt with, end off.
we are talking about thousands of schoolchildren in total.
21 Jan 2013, 16:49 pm
@willievz-263:
a rare bit of honesty..?..
its a good look.
21 Jan 2013, 16:50 pm
i have to go
later all
21 Jan 2013, 18:07 pm
How many more times will I have to state this, emphatically? :
Where the Extra Terrestrial leads the dregs of S.African ‘Apartheid’ society will still follow, if they have enough years to live and outlive me.
Who highlighted doping in rugby in S.A. consistently(remember THAT farcical eoyt when Chili and Basson took the rap for the squad?)
Yet, as their myths crumble the pathetic apologisers dredge up more outrageous ones, like arsestretchers (ostrich too good) with their heads in the quagmire of faecal matter.
Now they try to say “all”, “most”, almost all “(whatever that means to them as they suck figures from where?) took drugs,
YET, I can refer, off the cuff , to some who have not taken drugs, who turned Armstrong down and paid the price for their honesty or did not take drugs :
1. Brian Smith: I told Lance I’d never take drugs(not the only one to say this)
It was the autumn of 1994 and I had joined Lance Armstrong on a training ride on the banks of Lake Como.
We had enjoyed a successful season as colleagues on the Motorola team. I was certainly feeling I’d done pretty well in my first year there. I’d won the British title and just completed my first grand tour at the Giro d’Italia. I’d also won the first European race of the season for Motorola. I’d made a contribution. Proved myself to be a good, solid pro.
But Lance wasn’t happy. He’d won the world road race title the previous year but was getting beaten. There were guys in the peloton he just couldn’t live with and what you have to understand about Lance is that he is a winner. He has to win and he could not handle losing.
That year Evgeni Berzin won the Giro and Marco Pantani emerged on the scene, winning a couple of stages.
So, as we’re riding side by side, the conversation turns to the subject of performance-enhancing drugs. He wants to know what I think. Did I think everyone was on them? Was the only way to beat them to join them? Would I take them?
My dad was a Scottish international cyclist and before I turned pro he sat me down and made me promise that I would never fall into that world, that I would never take drugs.
I told Lance the story and told him I could never let down my dad. I’d rather fail as a cyclist than do that. We rode on.
Two weeks later, I was called to a meeting with Jim Ochowicz, who played a big part in Lance’s career and at the time was Motorola team manager. Jim told me I would not be getting a new contract for the following season. I was out.
But I have often wondered if saying yes to drugs on that ride would have made all the difference. Would he have kept me on the team? Would I have had a different career? Would I have been more successful, in terms of results as well as financially? I certainly don’t think it helped me, saying no to Lance that day.
In David Walsh’s book, L.A. Confidentiel, he had a testimony from Steven Swart, who is a good friend and was still on the Motorola team in 1995. He claimed in Walsh’s book that the doping started at Motorola in 1995 and he was ostracised by the sport as a result. The power of Lance.
I made a living out of cycling and continue to do so. I’m the general manager of the Endura Racing team and I work as a commentator for Eurosport, ITV and Sky. I also got to ride in the Atlanta Olympics.
2. CYCLING hero Mark Cavendish fears no one will believe pro cyclists are clean again:
Last night he said: “He was a hero to anyone wanting to be cyclist when I was growing up, but when he was asked in the past if he was cheating he was so adamant, so convincing.
“I get irritated when people question if my success is through hard work, but after seeing the interview, I can now understand why people have a problem with believing us today when we say we are clean.
“They could think ‘if Lance lied so well, so could they’.”
Cav, 27, also admits he is not so concerned with the period before he came into the sport himself, but more in the time after lance’s comeback, when he and Lance were both pros.
So far Lance has not admitted to doping since his 2009 comeback, the point when he and Cav started competing in the same tours.
“That’s the issue for me, if he was cheating while I knew him. I phoned Lance on a couple of occasions to ask him for advice, he was a friend.
“It would hurt me more if he was doping then, when I counted him as a mate. But evidence from the UCI’s Biological Passport program, ironically a program he said really works, suggests a 1 in a million chance he DIDN’T dope.
“But in the interview, he claimed the allegations as absolutely false. Where I could have believed him before seeing video clips of him lying convincingly before, I think I’m among the majority who can’t trust the words anymore.”
Isle of Man born Cav says the culture of doping which Armstrong has admitted was rife during the 1990s, has left modern athletes like himself carrying the can.
He said: “What really annoys me is the fact modern pro cyclists are tarred with the same brush as a dope-cheat because of what happened in a bygone era.
3. a. British cycling and Boardman saved me from doping like Armstrong, says Wiggins :
Bradley Wiggins admitted he could easily have been caught up in the Lance Armstrong doping scandal that has rocked cycling.
This year’s Tour de France winner joined British Cycling aged 18 and claimed they saved him from peer pressure that may have led to him taking drugs.
Wiggins, 32, said: ‘It’s not about (Lance Armstrong) as a person, it’s about the culture of the sport and peer pressure.’
I’m very fortunate I was in the system. British Cycling supported me. Chris Boardman in my early 20s probably saved me, he taught me to do things the right way. That could’ve been me.’
Wiggins, who rides for the British Sky team, said he had no sympathy for Armstrong, who has had his seven Tour de France titles taken away after the US Anti-Doping Agency released a report into ‘the most sophisticated, professional and successful doping programme in history’.
‘Not really, no,’ said Wiggins. ‘My main concern is that I’m the winner of the Tour de France having to pick up the pieces for other people.
I saw a report on the BBC saying this now leaves the sport in tatters. It is quite the opposite considering the summer we’ve had as a British cycling nation. Now we’re the ones picking up those pieces. We’re the ones that have changed the sport.
‘Steps have been taken a long time ago, which is why we’re one of the most successful sports for catching people.’
Armstrong, who still denies drug-taking, is likely to keep the Olympic time-trial bronze he won at Sydney in 2000 — despite evidence that at around that time he was the main figure in a bullying culture of drug-taking and drug-running.
IOC rules do not allow a medal to be stripped after more than eight years have elapsed.
b. Bradley Wiggins: Armstrong admission would ‘write off’ Nineties as lost decade :
LONDON (AFP) — British cycling star Bradley Wiggins said Lance Armstrong’s anticipated admission of doping in a two-episode interview with talk-show host Oprah Winfrey would be both a “great” and “sad” day for the sport.
Wiggins, winner of last year’s Tour de France and Olympic time trial, added that the extent of doping in the 1990s meant it had now become cycling’s “lost” decade as a consequence of so many results being corrupted by drugs cheats.
“There’s a lot of angry people about,” Wiggins told Sky News in an interview conducted at his Team Sky training camp in Madeira. “They need that closure in their life because they’ve been battling for so long for this.
“It will be a great day for a lot of people and quite a sad day for the sport in some ways. But I think it has been a sad couple of months. The ’90s are pretty much a write-off now.”
Wiggins’s compatriot Nicole Cooke, meanwhile, used the occasion of her retirement on Monday to slam Armstrong, his former teammate Tyler Hamilton and other drug cheats who “robbed” clean riders such as herself of victories and prize money.
Hamilton denied doping before confessing on the CBS news program “60 Minutes” and again in his award-winning book “The Secret Race.”
“Tyler Hamilton will make more money from his book describing how he cheated than I will make in all my years of honest labor,” said the 29-year-old Cooke, who won road race gold at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
“When Lance cries on Oprah later this week and she passes him a tissue, spare a thought for all of those genuine people who walked away with no reward — just shattered dreams. Each one of them is worth a thousand Lances,” said Cooke.
“I do despair that the sport will ever clean itself up when rewards of stealing are greater than riding clean. If that remains the case, the temptation for those with no morals will always be too great.”
4. Former Team GB cyclist Richard Moore has criticised Lance Armstrong following his doping admission and has insisted that there is nothing “honourable” about his confession.
The disgraced cyclist confirmed in an interview with Oprah Winfrey that he had taken performance-enhancing drugs throughout his career, which included seven record Tour de France titles.
While some have welcomed Armstrong’s admission, Moore believes that the sport will be unable to move on until everyone that helped the Texan cheat is exposed.
These clean athletes involved in cycling are but a few. Their are up to 40%, at least, of CLEAN cyclist (possibly more since 2011 ) if one accepts that the world cycling body intimated that about 6 of the top TEN finishers of the TDF in the last number of years were positive.
21 Jan 2013, 18:24 pm
And here is the lung cancer or TB putrid, foul-smelling GOB in the faces of the MORONS who ok cheating.
Novak Djokovic: ‘Lance Armstrong should suffer for his lies’ :
Friday, January 18, 2013 at 07:45 UK
World number one tennis player Novak Djokovic has expressed contempt for the actions of cyclist Lance Armstrong.
The American came clean about the use of performance-enhancing drugs during an interview with Oprah Winfrey
Armstrong admitted to using banned substances during his seven wins at the Tour de France between 1999 and 2005, backtracking on years of doping denials.
Djokovic, speaking after his 6-4 6-4 7-5 victory over Radek Stepanek at the Australian Open, believes that the American “cheated” the sport and its fans.
“He cheated the sport, many people around the world,” said Djokovic. “I think he should suffer for his lies all these years.”
21 Jan 2013, 18:44 pm
Here we go ………
21 Jan 2013, 18:47 pm
Dave Brailsford, British Cycling’s performance director who was key to Bradley Wiggins becoming the first Briton to win the Tour de France this year, said was stunned to read the USADA findings. “It is shocking, it’s jaw dropping and it is very unpleasant.”
21 Jan 2013, 18:52 pm
And Novak lives on a banana for five hours.
Right.
21 Jan 2013, 18:53 pm
Summary of Usada’s reasoned decision
The evidence in this case also includes banking and accounting records from a Swiss company controlled by Dr Michele Ferrari reflecting more than $1 million in payments by Mr Armstrong, extensive email communications between Dr Ferrari and his son and Mr Armstrong during a time period in which Mr Armstrong claimed to not have a professional relationship with Dr Ferrari and a vast amount of additional data, including laboratory test results and expert analysis of Mr Armstrong’s blood test results.
The achievements of the USPS/Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team, including those of Lance Armstrong as its leader, were accomplished through a massive team doping scheme, more extensive than any previously revealed in professional sports history.
The evidence is overwhelming that Lance Armstrong did not just use performance-enhancing drugs, he supplied them to his team-mates. He did not merely go alone to Dr Ferrari for doping advice, he expected that others would follow. It was not enough that his team-mates give maximum effort on the bike, he also required that they adhere to the doping program outlined for them or be replaced.
21 Jan 2013, 19:03 pm
Drug kingpin.
Drug cartel leader.
Liar
Drug cheat
Those words just about sum up Armstrong’s professional cycling career.We can now safely say,as per USADA,that Armstrong used performance-enhanced drugs for about 95 percent of his professional career.What is this saying to us now?Can we now accept as fact that Armstrong would have stayed an extremely average cyclist if it was not for his drug-induced binges?Will we ever truly know the extent of Armstrong’s doping?Probably not,as we are dealing with an individual who has perfected the art of lying and cheating.
21 Jan 2013, 19:43 pm
@wnbb-247:
Do you truely believe that Miguel Indurain always rode clean during his 5x tour victories ?
21 Jan 2013, 20:00 pm
If a schoolboy is caught doping, he should be banned from all forms of the sport for LIFE.
21 Jan 2013, 20:40 pm
For those who refuse to believe that anyone else doped and that Lance ‘robbed’ so many decent and clean riders of TDF victories with his ‘evil ways’….
“There is some forgiveness out there: in the peloton’s old guard. The opponents ‘robbed’ of success by Armstrong’s cheating appear, in the main, suspiciously unperturbed, with some, such as Germany’s Andreas Kloden, second to Armstrong in 2004, currently preparing for the 2013 season in apparent – to use a favourite Euro expression – ‘serenity.’”
The term ‘suspiciously unperturbed’ tells you all you need to know…..
If I was a clean rider, I would be petitioning the UCI for those TDF titles as fast as I could whip up an email and protest action. I would be tantruming in the way the Kiwi shot putter Valerie Adams did for her gold medal once the original winner tested positive…..
Why is no-one demanding these TDF titles? They’re a few years old yes, but still valuable on all sorts of levels (personal mostly) to ANY competitive sportsman worth his weight in elite sports.
Where are all these clean riders he robbed, and WHY are they all ‘suspiciously unperturbed’?
Bloodymoralievers.
21 Jan 2013, 20:42 pm
@leBroix-280:
I agree, although that should apply to representative sports. The problem is that there is far too much money at stake in professional sports. I’d love to see the Olympics go back to an amateur event.
21 Jan 2013, 21:03 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-281: And final post for the night….
Dearest ET..do not think for one minute that the ‘Grandpa’ headache powders you sluk before bellyflopping into a Virgin Active pool, are meaningless……
You are just as guilty as Lance whether you use ‘Grandpas’ (in your case) to stay afloat in a pool…..OR, you’re a student who uses Ritalin to stay awake and focused whilst cramming for an exam……(certainly an unfair advantage over fellow students? Or will you tell me that it’s not cheating, as all the students use it, and CAN use it if they wish? Oops?…..)
LIVESTRONG !!!!!!!
21 Jan 2013, 21:16 pm
@gonzo-267:
Yep, Goosen was caught. Thing is that i find it strange that Bakkies is all over the Lance Armstrong,yet he wanted me to apologise for falsely accusing the Bok players that were also caught…..bit weird i must say.
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-269:
“i havn’t said its never happened? ”
NO what you have said is that SA players do not cheat. You have bought this rubbish on yourself Bakkies. All this AB hatred and trying to make your South African players saints has back fired. I expect an apology…. If you want me to say sorry to SA drug cheats, at least you say sorry for all your accusations on NZ rugby.
21 Jan 2013, 22:01 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-283:
> Dearest ET..do not think for one minute that the ‘Grandpa’ headache powders you sluk before bellyflopping into a Virgin Active pool, are meaningless
ET’s launching his own “Poopstrong” b.uttplug
It’s all the rage for keepin the brown sharks at bay and out of the pool
A small percentage of the proceeds will go to his Oom Tas Charity for unknown, forgotten Badminton players from the 80′s Bergies league
ET wanted to spill the b.alls on Oprah, but couldn’t reach an amicable agreement.
Oprah wanted him to donate to the “Gail, special friend” charity, a charity providing assistance and batteries to homeless l.esbians but Extraball wouldn’t budge.
He needs the money for the upcoming “Badminton for the Homeless” tournament in Taiwan.
He already dreams about lifting the Chiang Kai-sheck trophy
22 Jan 2013, 04:26 am
If anyone wanted to gauge the level of honesty and decency and fairness among S.Africans, this thread should give a shocking answer.
This thread goes from the ridiculous to the more ridiculous to the most ridiculous and eventually to the gutter in cavalier and superficial manner whilst peppered with twisted notions, distortions, mangled ‘ideas’, lies and little understanding of what has been read from articles by professional sport’s scientists.
The irony of it all is that I cannot count , amongst the many fools, anyone with a half-course in physiology, exercise physiology and /or pharmacology let alone a full course or qualification in all three. It means the professional ideas out of the Noakes, Lab.(Tucker) are just wasted.
Dare I say that they will probably say with reasonable people they would reason, with humane people they would plead but with tyrants they would not concede and inch. Or maybe not for you are mostly cut from the same clothe as they are. You are ilk.
22 Jan 2013, 05:11 am
Because of the above, the absurd comments and/or claims are based on nothing but quicksand.
Phil Anderson an accomplished Australian cyclist mentored the early Armstrong. He said that Lance did not impress him at all and that he did not deem him to ever perform well in a TDF then as his time trials and mountain cycling was amongst the poorest he had encountered at that stage. This is clearly anecdotal but from a fellow athlete, even competitive, classy cyclist hence the mentoring
Anderson and the Kiwi, Swarts testified in a court case here in the USA years ago against Armstrong.
Now some fools writes above as if they are exquisite experts :
Armstrong was the best Tour de France cyclist of his generation.
Armstrong is a phenomenal athlete
best endurance athletes in the history of sport.
Doping can not turn a chump into a champ.
legalise drugs.
Let me examine these wild shouts. On what are they based, what yardstick , what measurements? How do they stand up to how other fellow competitors say from their experiences relative to our moronic experts.
Take the top three claims. On the day I got back here I was fortunate to see that evening on ESPN2 Armstrong’s performance in his 2nd Xterra world championship(3 events with swimming followed by cycling and running with the latter 2 both off-road)
Lance entered the cycle event out of the top ten and very slowly worked his way to the lead but did not finish first in the event as he crashed into the bush.
He entered the run seemingly in 2nd place but finished the championship in 23rd place which means up to 21 athletes passed him on that run.
How does this performance measure the top three claims of the fools?
How does the lower level Navy Seals event measure up to this world championship as it is presented as a stupendous performance where an “olympion”(sic) any one not the champ or medalist possibly is the cherry on top?
22 Jan 2013, 05:58 am
“Doping can not turn a chump into a champ.”
This is laughable in the extreme as the very opposite is exactly true if you are the willing, bullying “chump” and have the most sophisticated bunch of medical cheats willing to help, and take millions from you in the process.
With doping there can never be a level playing field even if all the different cheating teams co-operate as best they can(which is really never) to give every cheating cyclist the same volume and same concentration of the same drug..There are far too many physiological and pharmacological parameters and factors involved. It is a complex multifactorial scenario.
On the simplest level there is body mass, and body fat % and muscle (largely protein) mass and much, much more to consider from one athlete to another. The pharma. factors are more complex. Is the drug carried in the blood bound to a protein or somewhat and somehow dissolved in the water of blood(the plasma), what is the conc. of that binding molecule in one athlete relative to another? How is the drug administered(a number of ways available) but more importantly what are the first pass effects through the liver from one athlete to the next for the administered drug? This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Consider the differences in the acquired know-how of each cheating team of experts.
In the specific case of Lance did his cancer treatment(Rx) change and compromise his physiology. Cancer Rx has the aim of killing cancer cells but what effects might it have had on his normal, healthy or otherwise, body cells?
How did the cancer Rx affect his organs and cells to handle the drugs for cheating? Did the prior steroids usage contribute to his testicular cancer?
So smartarses it is easy to write your garbage above but where ignorance is bliss ’tis folly to be wise. You are creating your own Frankensteins.
As for the gutter advice of “legalise” steroids or any PEDs, the least said , soonest mended.
Drugs affect many physiological systems and organs deleteriously to the point of irreparable damage and often death., moron
Empty vessels make the most noise but it would be advisable to consider silence, for it is golden
22 Jan 2013, 06:06 am
{{ It’s speculated within science that drugs improve performance by between 5% and 10%, and that’s an advantage too large for any genetic ability or dedicated training to overcome. In cycling, if you were a winner, you were a doper. A sad reality, and one that Armstrong took to mean that he should dope better than anyone else, such was the desire to win, whatever the price, mostly to others.}}
This translates to “doping can … turn a chump into a champ”
22 Jan 2013, 06:13 am
@Robzim-138:
There’s definitely an extra’s role as the lab coffee-boy in the background at USADA…
22 Jan 2013, 06:15 am
Tucker again:
Added to this was the slow drip of testimony against Armstrong – team-mates, staff, journalists, and cycling insiders. They could not ALL be bitter, jealous liars, so soon it became obvious that if you believed in Lance Armstrong, it’s because you wanted to believe. The willful suspension of disbelief among journalists and general followers fuelled the Nike-assembled marketing machine, and an icon was created. But here was more than enough to see the truth a long time ago. Armstrong, and the sport, had a doping problem }}
“it’s because you wanted to believe ” and ” an icon was created” should be ringing in some big ears.
22 Jan 2013, 06:20 am
Hurri I didn’t know Goosen had been caught doping, sounds like its rife in SA.
22 Jan 2013, 06:55 am
@NZINCHINA-292:
China…I have my doubts about this 18 outta 64 testing positive for performance enhancing drugs, surely the results include recreational drugs as well?
22 Jan 2013, 07:09 am
@ET.-291: Once more…..my issue is firmly with those who shift the goal posts to ‘suit’ their alleged moral platform.
You admire Mssr Arendse…..yet he bullied folk in a very Armstrong-esque manner.
You admire Mssr Cheeky Watson (as do I, but then again I still dig Armstrong so I ‘may’ admire another less than pure soul, like Watson, without looking like a hypocrite I guess)…….he who employed more than one Armstrong tendency.
You plea for radical transformation in Saffa sport, based on nothing more than ‘your’ ideologies, without putting into some sort of perspective, that just maybe ‘forced quotas’ is just another form of DOPING……….
You rave about various Aussie cricketers….many of whom have been tainted by match fixing allegations at some stage, and some of who have been bust fair and square. Yet this is ok of course
Soccer…… Italy 2006? Any bells ringing? SA, as recently as 2010? Ding dong ding dong.
Think before you INK old fella. And next time you sluk a Grandpa before a badminton game – remember; YOU are Armstrong.
22 Jan 2013, 07:15 am
@Hurricane-284:
you are clueless, Hurri.
22 Jan 2013, 07:20 am
@Te Rangatira-293:
Yip some probably were
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-295:
Doping is rife in SA schools, it is you who is clueless, the Bokke number 10 tested positive 3 years ago
22 Jan 2013, 07:23 am
@Te Rangatira-293: Morning
In SA the ‘sports supplement’ industry isn’t regulated. There are a few woeful efforts here and there, but one can walk into almost any pharmacy and self medicate with any product amongst the 1000000000000′s on display.
Because there is a huge gap in regulation – some of these seemingly innocent, over the counter products can (and sometimes do) contain any number of banned substances. In many (definitely not all) cases, folk are swallowing things they have not researched, and have zero clue as to what it is they are swallowing/mixing etc. I have no doubt quite a few of the positive ‘tests’ come from this category. The supplement industry in SA is a minefield. (I was using a frikking product for recovery that contained a banned substance….obvlivious I was….. Then again, asthma sufferers, those with pneumonia, and even a kid with a cough are all using banned substances…)
Recreational drugs and their ingredients might account for a few results….
But it is the category of young user who actively source the ‘real stuff’ with the financial help and assistance of dad that concerns most. And contrary to what a fella ike ET would have you believe, it is not only those coming from privileged backgrounds who manage to find the ‘cash’ to do this.
22 Jan 2013, 07:32 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-297:
Hi Pedigree, my Blues sista….yeah looks like a problem that needs lancing for sure. I had a mate who played top Rugby in the nineties who suspected some Sa players being on the juice, but that was mere speculation. I think you recommended off season testing for all Sanzar countries…that is something I’m all for.
22 Jan 2013, 07:35 am
I believe isf all the Super Rugby squads teams were comprehensively tested the tournament would have to be abandoned. Same applys for all pro rugby imo…
22 Jan 2013, 07:42 am
@Te Rangatira-298: Off season testing is the answer, in all sport. I know the regulations are there, but I also know that, for example, Djokovic (in his anti Lance tirade) admitted that he has last been tested 6 months ago…..
Now in any sport 6 months is a helluva long time for a doping program to be initiated, administered and worked out of the system. By anyones standards.
And the way I see it….is the ‘doping’ gives one an advantage in training and preparation (allowing one to get stronger and fitter faster which indirecty benefits the doper on match day), NOT on match day/game day/race day. This is where the axe needs to fall – and hard. In ALL sporting disciplines.
Strict, regular and mandatory off season/pre season/out of season testing – round the world and round the clock.
@grant10-299: I feel you are 100% correct. Every sport on the planet comes to mind.
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