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	<title>Comments on: Touting Jaco and Jantjies as Stormers starters</title>
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		<title>By: Bok fan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315323</link>
		<dc:creator>Bok fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 08:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to see Grant at 12, think he could be excellent backup to Frans Steyn for the Boks especially with his goal kicking. Jean is seriously limited these days at getting a backling going, I would rotate him with Juan at 13

I hope they play Groom at 9 because Duvenage is average at best]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see Grant at 12, think he could be excellent backup to Frans Steyn for the Boks especially with his goal kicking. Jean is seriously limited these days at getting a backling going, I would rotate him with Juan at 13</p>
<p>I hope they play Groom at 9 because Duvenage is average at best</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys7</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315293</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhys7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ive said before the team should be

15 Taute
14 Aplon
13 De Jongh
12 De Villiers
11 Habana
10 Jantjes
9 Groom
8 Vermeulen
7 Burger
6 Kolisi
5 Bekker
4 Etzebeth
3 Cilliers
2 Fourie
1 Kitsoff

16 Liebenberg 17 Malherbe 18 Elstadt 19 Carr 20 Shrouder 21 Grant 22 Van Den Heever]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive said before the team should be</p>
<p>15 Taute<br />
14 Aplon<br />
13 De Jongh<br />
12 De Villiers<br />
11 Habana<br />
10 Jantjes<br />
9 Groom<br />
8 Vermeulen<br />
7 Burger<br />
6 Kolisi<br />
5 Bekker<br />
4 Etzebeth<br />
3 Cilliers<br />
2 Fourie<br />
1 Kitsoff</p>
<p>16 Liebenberg 17 Malherbe 18 Elstadt 19 Carr 20 Shrouder 21 Grant 22 Van Den Heever</p>
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		<title>By: ufo</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315258</link>
		<dc:creator>ufo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315240&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ryecatcher-102&lt;/a&gt;: 

hey pal... yes, thanks... and you...?

yeah... i understand... 

will post on the other thread further...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315240" rel="nofollow">ryecatcher-102</a>: </p>
<p>hey pal&#8230; yes, thanks&#8230; and you&#8230;?</p>
<p>yeah&#8230; i understand&#8230; </p>
<p>will post on the other thread further&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ryecatcher</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315240</link>
		<dc:creator>ryecatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315008&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ufo-57&lt;/a&gt;: Hi Pal.You well?.I have always
believed that you support the Province where you live and which affords
you a living.Having spent many years in JHBG I am obliquely proud
of Taute + Jantjies.even though I now live in Natal. Conversation re Plum refers.Keep well.Saying more here than w hat is actually said]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315008" rel="nofollow">ufo-57</a>: Hi Pal.You well?.I have always<br />
believed that you support the Province where you live and which affords<br />
you a living.Having spent many years in JHBG I am obliquely proud<br />
of Taute + Jantjies.even though I now live in Natal. Conversation re Plum refers.Keep well.Saying more here than w hat is actually said</p>
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		<title>By: garth</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315204</link>
		<dc:creator>garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I expect a Stormers/Sharks final.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect a Stormers/Sharks final.</p>
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		<title>By: Predawn</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315157</link>
		<dc:creator>Predawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 05:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with Treehugger....the Stormers will be racing The Sharks for top honours with these two players in the mix.

I can feel a Stormers Currie Cup defence in the making.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Treehugger&#8230;.the Stormers will be racing The Sharks for top honours with these two players in the mix.</p>
<p>I can feel a Stormers Currie Cup defence in the making.</p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315131</link>
		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 02:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liiewe luiperd. Of course you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liiewe luiperd. Of course you do.</p>
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		<title>By: stormer in a teacup</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315129</link>
		<dc:creator>stormer in a teacup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 02:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wake up to yourself Dusky. The Kings represent an area with a strong rugby tradition. That already makes the more deserving than the Force or Rebels if deserving is your yardstick. The reality is that SA has six natural sporting regions - we see it in the cricket - and only 5 super rugby spots. Relegation is the only feasible option at the moment. It is not as if the Lions have done anything more to deserve their spot. If you are supporting foreign teams out of spite you are as bad as the half blacks who support the ABs. And NO, you don&#039;t have a better reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up to yourself Dusky. The Kings represent an area with a strong rugby tradition. That already makes the more deserving than the Force or Rebels if deserving is your yardstick. The reality is that SA has six natural sporting regions &#8211; we see it in the cricket &#8211; and only 5 super rugby spots. Relegation is the only feasible option at the moment. It is not as if the Lions have done anything more to deserve their spot. If you are supporting foreign teams out of spite you are as bad as the half blacks who support the ABs. And NO, you don&#8217;t have a better reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Liewe Luiperd</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315128</link>
		<dc:creator>Liewe Luiperd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Stormers are a bit overrated hey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Stormers are a bit overrated hey.</p>
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		<title>By: numba4lock</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315125</link>
		<dc:creator>numba4lock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Jantjies has been stuffed around at international level&quot; couldn&#039;t agree more Keo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jantjies has been stuffed around at international level&#8221; couldn&#8217;t agree more Keo</p>
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		<title>By: DumpsterDiver</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315121</link>
		<dc:creator>DumpsterDiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stormers will be competitive but Taute is by far the most overrated player in the country. Squad player really, not world class anywhere in the backline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stormers will be competitive but Taute is by far the most overrated player in the country. Squad player really, not world class anywhere in the backline.</p>
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		<title>By: Jinx2</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinx2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is going to be a fantastic Stormers team.  All the best.  Lets hope success on the field will be mirrored by successful relations on the ground in the winelands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be a fantastic Stormers team.  All the best.  Lets hope success on the field will be mirrored by successful relations on the ground in the winelands.</p>
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		<title>By: victoriabok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315103</link>
		<dc:creator>victoriabok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315099&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nortierd-92&lt;/a&gt;: 

Ja, ons stuur hulle huistoe na hulle mans en boyfriends na die eerste keer

Waaroor gesels die Sharks ondersteuners?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315099" rel="nofollow">nortierd-92</a>: </p>
<p>Ja, ons stuur hulle huistoe na hulle mans en boyfriends na die eerste keer</p>
<p>Waaroor gesels die Sharks ondersteuners?</p>
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		<title>By: nortierd</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortierd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315096&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;victoriabok-91&lt;/a&gt;: 
Ek bly mos in Pretoria en luister maar as die Bulls ondersteuners so met mekaar praat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315096" rel="nofollow">victoriabok-91</a>:<br />
Ek bly mos in Pretoria en luister maar as die Bulls ondersteuners so met mekaar praat.</p>
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		<title>By: victoriabok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315096</link>
		<dc:creator>victoriabok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315093&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nortierd-90&lt;/a&gt;: 

Nee, ons moes julle steun dat julle kan vorder tot in die final, sodat hulle kon steun soos die Bulle, onder die leiding van Meester Fourie, hulle &#039;n mielie rol


Hoe weet jy sloppy seconds is nie nice nie?

Self probeer?

Is dit ingesluit by die Stormers Ondersteuners lidmaatskap, &#039;n showersessie saam met die manne?

Sloppy seconds of druppende donut?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315093" rel="nofollow">nortierd-90</a>: </p>
<p>Nee, ons moes julle steun dat julle kan vorder tot in die final, sodat hulle kon steun soos die Bulle, onder die leiding van Meester Fourie, hulle &#8216;n mielie rol</p>
<p>Hoe weet jy sloppy seconds is nie nice nie?</p>
<p>Self probeer?</p>
<p>Is dit ingesluit by die Stormers Ondersteuners lidmaatskap, &#8216;n showersessie saam met die manne?</p>
<p>Sloppy seconds of druppende donut?</p>
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		<title>By: nortierd</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortierd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315091&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;victoriabok-89&lt;/a&gt;: 
we thank you for your support :-)
Ek kan nie so rond slet tussen spanne nie, sloppy seconds is nie nice nie :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315091" rel="nofollow">victoriabok-89</a>:<br />
we thank you for your support <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Ek kan nie so rond slet tussen spanne nie, sloppy seconds is nie nice nie <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: victoriabok</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2013/01/21/touting-jaco-and-jantjies-as-stormers-starters/#comment-2315091</link>
		<dc:creator>victoriabok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315090&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nortierd-88&lt;/a&gt;: 

The 2010 Final, the Stormers had to play a semi to get there?

Yes, the Sharks in the final last year as the Bulls were out, any SA side if they&#039;re not playing against the Bulls except the Vomit Kings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315090" rel="nofollow">nortierd-88</a>: </p>
<p>The 2010 Final, the Stormers had to play a semi to get there?</p>
<p>Yes, the Sharks in the final last year as the Bulls were out, any SA side if they&#8217;re not playing against the Bulls except the Vomit Kings</p>
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		<title>By: nortierd</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortierd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;victoriabok-87&lt;/a&gt;: 
&quot;I actually supported the Stormers in the semi, I wanted an all SA final&quot;
which semi? You have said you support the Sharks if the Bulls are out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315088" rel="nofollow">victoriabok-87</a>:<br />
&#8220;I actually supported the Stormers in the semi, I wanted an all SA final&#8221;<br />
which semi? You have said you support the Sharks if the Bulls are out.</p>
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		<title>By: victoriabok</title>
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		<dc:creator>victoriabok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315086&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nortierd-86&lt;/a&gt;: 

I actually supported the Stormers in the semi, I wanted an all SA final, the same with the Sharks in 2007

We have watched too many Aussie vs Kiwi and Kiwi only finals and it was our turn

Also one&#039;s team&#039;s fortunes should be determined on the field by themselves, like the decision the Bulls took in the 2007 game against the Reds to try to get a home semi, rather than wishing bad fortune another team  

The only SA side I won&#039;t support when they&#039;re not playing the Bulls would the the BEE Kings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315086" rel="nofollow">nortierd-86</a>: </p>
<p>I actually supported the Stormers in the semi, I wanted an all SA final, the same with the Sharks in 2007</p>
<p>We have watched too many Aussie vs Kiwi and Kiwi only finals and it was our turn</p>
<p>Also one&#8217;s team&#8217;s fortunes should be determined on the field by themselves, like the decision the Bulls took in the 2007 game against the Reds to try to get a home semi, rather than wishing bad fortune another team  </p>
<p>The only SA side I won&#8217;t support when they&#8217;re not playing the Bulls would the the BEE Kings</p>
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		<title>By: nortierd</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortierd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 17:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2315082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;victoriabok-85&lt;/a&gt;: 
:-)
I said one could, not one did.
Point is VB, if the Bulls and Stormers are equal in the last round and you need the Stormers to lose against an overseas team in order for your side to top the conference, no one should find it &quot;unpatriotic&quot; if you cheered for the foreign side.
I on the other hand am honest in that I support the side I picked for superbru for that 80 minutes, and only then.
So if I pick the Bulls to win I actually &quot;support&quot; them for that match, but only for my own personal selfish gain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2315082" rel="nofollow">victoriabok-85</a>:<br />
 <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I said one could, not one did.<br />
Point is VB, if the Bulls and Stormers are equal in the last round and you need the Stormers to lose against an overseas team in order for your side to top the conference, no one should find it &#8220;unpatriotic&#8221; if you cheered for the foreign side.<br />
I on the other hand am honest in that I support the side I picked for superbru for that 80 minutes, and only then.<br />
So if I pick the Bulls to win I actually &#8220;support&#8221; them for that match, but only for my own personal selfish gain.</p>
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