Coetzee trashes talk of Smit SOS

Coetzee trashes talk of Smit SOS

Allister Coetzee insists John Smit is not getting an SOS from him to join the Stormers.

Smit was reported as a possibility to help out the Stormers because of a hooker crisis.

Smit, who has played for Saracens for the last two years, is considering a move to Toulon on a one-year contract, but the Cape Times newspaper on Wednesday reported Smit as a short-term back-up to Deon Fourie.

Fourie, who has signed to play in Europe after the Super Rugby season, will start at hooker but his understudy Scarra Ntubeni will be out for three months because of a shoulder operation and there is concern about Tiaan Liebenberg’s fitness. Liebenberg is still struggling with a long-term back injury.

Coetzee told the Cape media he was considering an experienced South African-based hooker and that there had been no approach to Smit.

Coetzee said the nature of Super Rugby demanded two experienced hookers and one youngster and that it would be too risky to go with two youngsters and just the experience of Fourie.

He said an announcement would be made in the week once terms had been agreed.

Smit would not be a bad option, despite the vehement denials.

He has done a fantastic job at Saracens, in easing the workload on Schalk Brits and also in mentoring the club’s next generation of hooker and front ranker. He is still on contract with Saracens in February and the Stormers have a partnership with Saracens which has seen them release Brits in the past to help out the Stormers.

Smit captained the Boks to World Cup glory in 2007 and played the last of his 111 Tests for South Africa against Australia in the 2011 World Cup quarter-final exit.

He has played his rugby in South Africa exclusively for the Sharks and also spent 18 months playing for Clermont in France after the 2007 World Cup.

By Mark Keohane


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  • 101.Mr Black: Reply to this comment

    Blueboy and Goodstuff…..

    Are you having a “wie se piellietjie is die grootste kompetisie”?

  • 102.stormersboy: Reply to this comment

    It don’t matter…..

    Life…. has never been better.

    :)

    This year is all that counts guys.

    Having John as a backup to Deon would be great for all concerned. It may also solve the whole Springbok captaincy conundrum for Heinecke too. :)

  • 103.Sremrots: Reply to this comment

    Well surely we will field the biggest front row ever in Malherbe 122, Barney 125 and Kitshoff 120kg.The we have Bekker 120 and Etsebeth 120. Schalk 112, Elstadt 118 and Vermeulen 116.

    We looking at a scrum of 953 – average per player 119.1.

  • 104.Treehugger: Reply to this comment

    @Grant10….its not like he said he wanted to puke on the Bok jersey, you never said anything about that. Now that was something to freak out about.

  • 105.shooter: Reply to this comment

    Grant’s greatest achievement is thinking up the Plod nickname.

    Vs

    Captain Fantastic…………….

    keep going Grant … you’re making a bigger fool of yourself. Your image is shot anyway. Been that way a long time.

    Wonder what a pictionary drawing of Grant would look like :lol:

  • 106.Treehugger: Reply to this comment

    @shooter-105: you forget ”turbo reverse”

  • 107.John Galt: Reply to this comment

    @gunther-100:
    Yep. Couldnt believe it when he told us he was 50 years of age.

    Behaves more like a 13 year old girl at times.

  • 108.RL: Reply to this comment

    @Sremrots-103: like they say in Hawera – big, strong and dumb.

  • 109.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment

    @Te Rangatira-98: :) :) :)

  • 110.Treehugger: Reply to this comment

    @shooter…love pictionary….when you look at the drawings the next day you can’t make out what any of them are :lol:

  • 111.shooter: Reply to this comment

    @Treehugger-106: o yes. that a very good one too.
    - and fat boys club. (anyone over 65kg, belongs to that club)

  • 112.cane: Reply to this comment

    Phar canal,……………………………………. Keo is knocking out these Articles like a man possessed.

    I have never seen him so prolific.

  • 113.stormersboy: Reply to this comment

    @Treehugger-110: That’s because you are sober in the morning!

    :D

  • 114.cane: Reply to this comment

    @RL-108:

    Hawera, Taranaki?

  • 115.stormersboy: Reply to this comment

    @cane-112: Looks like it’s just him and Tank jr that are left after the “reverse buyout” by Keo of his blog from HSM.

  • 116.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-92: not anti-smit…just a bit of fun from a few years back…

    you missed out :D

    Wales 31 South Africa 34
    match report by paul ackford
    05 june 2010

    If it was not for Danie Rossouw and Joe van
    Niekerk up front, two of the more
    recognisable names in the Bok selection,
    and Jaque Fourie, Ruan Pienaar and Ricky
    Januarie in the backs, Wales might have
    secured an unlikely victory.

    It was that quintet which held South Africa
    together when Wales were raging. In the
    middle of the game centre Juan de Jongh
    and flanker Dewald Potgieter grew in
    influence, but it will be a major shock if
    much of this Springbok side is not discarded
    by the time the Boks get to the Tri-Nations.

    The big surprise for South Africa was the
    attitude and execution of their captain,
    John Smit, which were both lousy. To me,
    Smit has looked neither fit nor at ease since
    he has bounced between hooker and prop,
    and he was blowing hard yesterday very
    early on.
    Yet puff was not the main issue.

    Smit presented James Hook with the easiest
    of tries when he found himself in the
    middle of the Boks backline after South
    Africa had turned over Welsh possession.
    Instead of shuffling into the nearest
    defender as most self-respecting tight
    forwards tend to do, Smit shaped to kick,
    stopped, thought about it, and then rifled a
    pass into the waiting hands of Hook, who
    cantered over for the try.

    When Stephen Jones banged over the
    conversion, Wales were 16-3 ahead and
    cruising. For a captain to make that kind of
    error, and to compound it by blatant
    displays of petulance, questioning the
    decisions of officials throughout much of
    the first half, as Smit did, was poor.

  • 117.shooter: Reply to this comment

    @cane-112: Its like he is on Berocca

  • 118.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation-116: Ah ok. Thanks for the background info. So it’s only Grant who is ‘anti’ in the truest sense of the word.

    I don’t know what the fuss is should he come to CT for a few months. It’s not as though it’s Spies pulling in down here. That would be worthy of a decent tantrum or five.

  • 119.RL: Reply to this comment

    @shooter-105: @Treehugger-106: @John Galt-107: spin it anyway you like – fact is the plodder cost us the first All Black match at soccer city – sending that fitness oke out to tell the world that he was in the same shape as 2007 – he let the enemy get a foothold into Lions country and turn soccer city into Eden Park.

    @cane-114: that is the one.

  • 120.cane: Reply to this comment

    @shooter-117:

    Well he is phizzing.

    ;)

  • 121.gunther: Reply to this comment

    @shooter-105:

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  • 122.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @stormersboy-115: will vrede, jc, simon be writing @ sarugbymag.co.za?

  • 123.shooter: Reply to this comment

    @gunther-121: sweetpatoto! ,,,, exotic mushroom?! ,,,,, wtf :lol:

  • 124.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-118: remember he was the guppys captain, made for great mirth when he got drukked by the likes of wyatt crockett.

  • 125.cane: Reply to this comment

    @stormersboy-115:

    Please NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    No JC, Simon, Gareth, Ryan or Niki.

    Unthinkable.

  • 126.shooter: Reply to this comment

    @RL-119: he was out of shape. predictably didn’t have a good game. so let’s say 5/100 games he didn’t perform perfect. your point?

  • 127.goodstuff: Reply to this comment

    @Mr Black-101: MR Black, nah, I am just making sure some dilusional fans don’t talk ****.

  • 128.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation-124: I won’t ever deny that his form and continued inclusion in the starting line up didn’t have me questioning things at times….
    But in general, a huge servant of SA rugby, with much value.

    The guppies must have been flat spinning at times. Who to “cheer for” – Bissie or John?. Must have made for some interesting chats round here ;)

  • 129.The Rangerman: Reply to this comment

    hahaha, beautiful; seeing gwantie lose his shite again.

    now we need justrugby to come on and defend gwanties “honour” before they take a stroll on camps bay beach and retire to the tub to play with their duckies :lol:

    wp would be lucky to have a great man like smitty grace their squad.

  • 130.stormersboy: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation-122: No clue. Tank mentioned on the other article that Keo had taken his blog back from HSM.

    Not sure what happened to the 3 stooges.

  • 131.The Rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-128: nah, we dig both of them.

    you brokebacks dont deserve either :lol:

  • 132.gunther: Reply to this comment

    @stormersboy-115:

    He reverse warthogged them.

  • 133.stormersboy: Reply to this comment

    @cane-125: Not sure, but they are scarce at the moment. Ryan’s mug is still on the Keo TV team, but then so is Monty and Nikita’s and we haven’t had a TV broadcast in quite a while.

    Maybe Mark can answer this for us?

  • 134.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha: Reply to this comment

    @Stawm-66:
    seriously

    “the best franchise accross all local competition.”

    what is that even supposed to mean..?..

    @Dusky-70:
    hehehe
    i really asked for it in all sincerity
    from my lips to Gods ears, here’s to hoping :lol:

  • 135.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment

    @The Rangerman-131: Yeah, but when it came to the Bok issue – there must have been a few ‘moments’. You had to have preferred one over the other….. Be honest.

  • 136.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    oh ok.. so keo back running the show…i noticed the change in blogging “attitude” from him…makes sense now.

  • 137.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha: Reply to this comment

    @blueboy-76:
    morning Blue :grin:

    for WP rugby is like the special olympics

    everybody’s a winner :lol:

  • 138.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-135: guppys criticise plod? NEVER.

    it was plum & the wee maestro’s fault ( more blame on the latter) every time smit got mangled…

  • 139.The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food: Reply to this comment

    @Transformation-138: So they were all in the Smit must start, and Bissie must ride the bench camp?

    Interesting……

  • 140.The Rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-139: sharks players dont “ride the bench”

    thats a brokeback tendency.

  • 141.wnbb: Reply to this comment

    @i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-137: You are a real farking idiot! Is it really necessary to reference a group of people that sacrifice a lot just to compete at such events?

  • 142.Transformation: Reply to this comment

    @The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-139: bissy was called an “impact player” & had his scrumming & throwing questioned. smit’s AURA was too big & blinding for the guppys.

  • 143.Mr Black: Reply to this comment

    @wnbb-141:

    It is bakkie’s style to degrade people different than him………

  • 144.ufo: Reply to this comment

    sheesh…

    a turn up for the books…

    when will a decision be made one way or the other…?

    this would be a major coup for the stormers imo… even if john never gets onto the field…

    his leadership and experience would be invaluable in a mentorship role…

    plus he could solve our lie-out throwing problems and deon could play six…

    also deon being the kind of guy he is i’m sure would welcome john and use the opportunity as a growing experience… scarra too…

    would also qualify john to join us in the play-offs… should we make it and the need arise…

    this is a classic win-win-win situation…!!

  • 145.The Rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @wnbb-141: sensitive eh?

    doesnt really fit with the statements you have made here before.

    are you “special”?

    :lol:

  • 146.The Rangerman: Reply to this comment

    @ufo-144: ja deon can grow under smittys guidance just before he phucks off overseas.

  • 147.RL: Reply to this comment

    @shooter-126: he was physically very, very fat – a liability from 2010 onwards – a true hasbeen if you like. What’s your point? He was brilliant in 95 matches, even from 2010 until RWC 2011 – never ever man.

  • 148.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha: Reply to this comment

    @wnbb-141:
    a littl rich coming from you.

    @Mr Black-143:
    its a joke and i meant no disrespect to the disabled.
    but you already knew that.

  • 149.i_love_u_bakkiesbotha: Reply to this comment

    @ufo-144:
    absolutely.
    its conceivable he could even play his way right back into the bok team.

  • 150.wnbb: Reply to this comment

    Making jokes about the disabled,mentally challenged as well as having a go at Amla and his wife.Yeah,that’s Bakkies’ style for sure.

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