Kings to field four foreigners
30 Jan 2013
The Southern Kings have included four international players in their squad for the warm-up match against a Franchise XV on Friday.
On Sunday, the Kings released a statement in reaction to an article published earlier that day in Rapport. The article said that Saru would not allow the Kings to field all five of their foreigners in Super Rugby, and that the Eastern Cape franchise would be restricted to two.
EP president Cheeky Watson did, however, state that while the franchise had accepted Saru’s decision, they would not be releasing their foreign players. ‘There are still ample opportunities within our structures for them to contribute,’ Watson said at the time.
Four of these players, namely Daniel Adongo (Kenya), Hadleigh Parkes (New Zealand), Tomas Leonardi (Argentina), and Virgil Lacombe (France), have been picked to play in a warm-up fixture this Friday. A statement released by the Kings on Wednesday revealed how much game time each player will enjoy in this match.
Southern Kings:
15. Elric van Vuuren
14. Sergeal Petersen (40 mins) / Siviwe Soyizwapi (40 mins)
13. Ronnie Cooke (60 mins) / Siyanda Grey (20 mins)
12. Andries Strauss (Captain) (40 mins) / Hadleigh Parkes (40 mins)
11. Marcello Sampson (40 mins) / Siyanda Grey (20 mins) / Sergeal Petersen (20 mins)
10. George Whitehead (40 mins) / Wesley Dunlop (Vice Captain) (40 mins)
9. Shaun Venter (40 mins) / Johan Herbst (40 mins)
1. Jaco Engels (40 mins) / Schalk Ferreira (40 mins)
2. Virgil Lacombe (40 mins) / Bandise Maku (40 mins)
3. Ross Geldenhuys (40 mins) / Kevin Buys (40 mins)
4. David Bullbring (80 mins)
5. Daniel Adongo (40 mins) / Rynier Bernardo (40 mins)
6. Devin Oosthuizen (Vice Captain) (40 mins) / Tomas Leonardi (40 mins)
7. Wimpie van der Walt (40 mins) / Mpho Mbiyozo (Captain) (40 mins)
8. Jacques Engelbrecht (40 mins) / Cornell du Preez (40 mins)
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30 Jan 2013, 13:17 pm
Is this the Kings’ A or B team?
30 Jan 2013, 13:18 pm
@Tacitus-1: Hoekom is jy so skaars?
30 Jan 2013, 13:19 pm
@Taahirah-2:
Kom nou eers terug in the swing of things. Soos die rugby optel sal ek meer begin belangstel.
30 Jan 2013, 14:05 pm
@Tacitus-1: Kind of a combination: All the Kings’ carthorses and all the Kings’ journeymen.
30 Jan 2013, 14:12 pm
@Tacitus-1: they are either A Negative or B Positive.
30 Jan 2013, 14:19 pm
Cheeky…
30 Jan 2013, 14:25 pm
Go Kings!
30 Jan 2013, 14:26 pm
@Transformation-7: Yes, anywhere. Just fcking go.
30 Jan 2013, 14:28 pm
What the Bulls would give to have Johnny English back.
What is a franchise XV
A combined KFC & Nandos outfit?
30 Jan 2013, 14:30 pm
suur katte around here…
30 Jan 2013, 14:57 pm
i really feel SARU should have allowed them to field the extra foreign players.
perhaps there were some offence taken because the Kings (Cheeky) had tried (well, did do it) to contract the foreign players first and then asked SARU if it was ok after, understandably this probably left some persons sensibilities hurt.
basically a cart before the horse manuover.
@gunther-9:
30 Jan 2013, 14:59 pm
@Tacitus-3:
Good day!
30 Jan 2013, 15:32 pm
Nandos & KFC XV 51 Kings 3
30 Jan 2013, 16:06 pm
Is the team allowed to field so many players?
Even so, all the other teams will put more than 50 points pass them, despite playing a Kings Army.
30 Jan 2013, 16:12 pm
I think people are missing something here. On another site it said that they are not allowed more than 2 foreign players IN A MATCH DAY SQUAD. That is clearly something else than only allowing 2 in the full tournament bigger squad.
Of course then they can still provide some depth.
30 Jan 2013, 16:19 pm
Where is Catrakillis, Killian & Nell?
30 Jan 2013, 16:30 pm
two foreigners in Super squad submitted to SARU…can’t swap them match to match…
30 Jan 2013, 16:30 pm
@TooMuchRugby-16:
And Sykes?
30 Jan 2013, 16:32 pm
@Transformation-17:
That’s a pity. Kings have been screwd by SARU.
30 Jan 2013, 16:41 pm
Filthy arrogant fckers – what entitles them to field so many ineligible players.
30 Jan 2013, 16:43 pm
@RL-20:
They must have it
Dont you get it yet
When will you get it
30 Jan 2013, 16:46 pm
@TooMuchRugby-19: yeah SARU are adept at double speak…
Melbourne will be allowed to recruit up to
10 foreign players for their entry to the
expanded Super 15 rugby competition in
2011.
The Australian Rugby Union on Monday
announced significant foreign-player
concessions for Melbourne to give the
franchise every chance of being competitive
in their debut season.
The ARU Foreign Player Policy allows a
Super Rugby province to contract up to two
overseas players: one marquee signing who
has already qualified for another nation
and a development player who could
qualify for Australian selection under the
IRB’s three-year residency regulation.
If a province does not sign a marquee
player it can contract two development
players.
But the ARU board has eased the existing
Foreign Player Policy for Melbourne only,
granting them permission to sign up to 10
players to their 30-man roster.
It is hoped the concession also protects
Australia’s other four franchises – the NSW
Waratahs, Queensland Reds, ACT Brumbies
and Western Force.
The concession of eight additional foreign
players will gradually be rolled back so that
by 2015 Melbourne will have the same
number of overseas players as the other
four Australian teams
.
“It is important to ensure Melbourne can
recruit a team that is competitive from day
one,” ARU chief John O’Neill said.
“The concessions we have put in place
provide Melbourne with every opportunity
for immediate success, while also ensuring
there is ongoing sustainability moving
forward.
the only important thing to SARU are votes by the Presidents Council
30 Jan 2013, 16:47 pm
@RL-20:
Shall we go through this again…….slowly
Because SARU took so long to make decision about the Kings, they were unable to contract SA players like they would have liked to, because they were already signed at that stage abd previously were not willing to sign before SARU made a decision.
Capiche?
Furthermore, don’t hate the players for the administration’s cockups.
30 Jan 2013, 16:59 pm
@TooMuchRugby-23:
> Because SARU took so long to make decision about the Kings
Weren’t you one of the lot saying it’s no excuse when we said HM needed time and it’s not his fault when SARU only appointed him Bok coach a couple of months before his first test?
Yet now you want leniency for the Kings?
30 Jan 2013, 17:09 pm
@Dawn-21: they will not be having it.
@TooMuchRugby-23:really! They were told back in 2009 that they would play superrugby in 2013 – Checky said then that they were going to start preparing for their entry into superrugby cause the decision was made. He said they will be ready. Now if he was more interested in using the superrugby money SARU dished out to them on Pukes massive salary instead of on contracting young players and developing them by doing what the Lions are doing – that is giving their young players exposure to international teams – the Kings would not have a need to ‘buy’ success. – instead they adopt the typical victim mentality and wait for hand-outs and special exemptions. Pathetic!
30 Jan 2013, 17:11 pm
@TooMuchRugby-23:
Also what top player would take a chance of leaving an existing franchise to one that may only last one season?
@victoriabok-24:
Those were just opinions. HM didn’t have the possibility of being axed after one season if he didn’t perform.
30 Jan 2013, 17:16 pm
@David-26:
surely the kings would back themselves to win their promotion/relegation games vs the LIons?
30 Jan 2013, 17:24 pm
@David-26:
They still were very nasty about HM not having a WC winning side after one traing session
Make no mistake, it’s an unenvialble task to build a Super Squad in one season.
I know, HM had to do it as well in 2000 when the Bulls were very weak(I think they had to play a relegation match as well, it was when they merged the first and second division and they played in an X and Y pool)
I’ve got nothing against the players, not even Luke the player, he was very unlucky at his prime not to get a Bok jersey, just like Ettienne Botha was
But the way the Kings were pushed in by politicians and forced the Lions out left a bad taste in the mouths of most rugby supporters
Luke the politcian and his dad stirring the political pot ain’t making them friends either
30 Jan 2013, 17:25 pm
@gunther-27:
They might, but I wouldn’t, especially with all the Lions loan players back.
30 Jan 2013, 17:27 pm
To be fair, the Kings are only following the example set for them by SARU. Wasn’t it SARU who promised the Kings a spot in Super Rugby before consulting SANZAR about whether or not SA could enter an additional team without losing an existing one.
30 Jan 2013, 17:31 pm
@victoriabok-24: you seem to forget how the Lions miraculously avoided relegation in 2006
selective amnesia?
30 Jan 2013, 17:33 pm
” But the way the Kings were pushed in by
politicians and forced the Lions out left a
bad taste in the mouths of most rugby
supporters!
please tell us how did the lions keep their status in 2006 & what taste did that saga leave in the hallowed mouths of rugby supporters?
30 Jan 2013, 17:36 pm
@motomouse-30: politics aside- why is that they were unable to develeop a team strong enough to qualify for the Currie Cup premier division – remember that they were getting their superrugby cheque since 2009 – financially they were getting paid more than the Griqua’s, Puma’s and Leopards.
3 years of preparation and all that they could do was field an all white team that got moered by the Cheetahs B team in a promotion match.
30 Jan 2013, 17:36 pm
@Transformation-31:
Would the Kings/Spears have won a relegation match against the Lions in 2006?
They are a lot stronger now, yet they couldn’t beat the lowest ranked Cheetahs?
Twice
30 Jan 2013, 17:39 pm
I can’t answer that question RL, I was merely pointing out a trend in SA rugby, I’m a Sharks supporter so I’m more concerned about my team’s potential for looking so good on paper but failing to deliver, I really hope this is our year.
30 Jan 2013, 17:41 pm
@Transformation-32:
> 2006 & what taste did that saga leave in the hallowed mouths of rugby supporters?
Rather tell us how the first wave of comrade management(Pukie and Pappie are the second) destroyed EP rugby and in true kleptocrat fashion took(stole) all the money?
And what taste it left the mouths of EP/Mighty Elepahnts/Spears/Kings supporters?
30 Jan 2013, 17:42 pm
@victoriabok-34: that is subject to conjencture…SARU rules were te same as now, the lowest team after 2006 gets relegated..that never happened.
what taste did it leave in your mouth as a rugby lover?
30 Jan 2013, 17:47 pm
@motomouse-35: good luck for your team guppy – they are looking good.
Now score a ton against the entitled ones.
30 Jan 2013, 17:47 pm
@victoriabok-36: ahhh deflections…clearly certain things leave bittet taste n your selective mouth…
what taste is left in your mouth after manie reyneke & janie ferreira destroyed the lions, paid themselves handsomely from glru coffers, to the point the lions are reported by kpmg to be millions in the red? you like that taste?
30 Jan 2013, 17:50 pm
@RL-38:
Thank you, I can’t wait for Super Rugby to start. Living here in the UK I am subjected to rugby that looks like it’s being played in quicksand it’s so slow.
30 Jan 2013, 17:53 pm
@Transformation-37:
They would have been in for one year only as well, and the result would have been the same as this year
If a CC winning team like the Bulls couldn’t do much in S12 in 2002-2004, what chance would a First Division tean like EP have had?
BTW Do you know EP has played Super rugby before?
They’ve played in the Super 10 in 1994
Didn’t do much though
Guess some things never change eh?
30 Jan 2013, 17:54 pm
@RL-33: ” financially they were getting paid more
than the Griqua’s, Puma’s and Leopards.”
really? Border, Ep & SWD were getting paid more than the Central Cheetahs franchise partners?
30 Jan 2013, 17:55 pm
@Transformation-39:
> you like that taste?
Not so much as you it seems?
Do you prefer Luke’s or Cheeky’s?
30 Jan 2013, 17:56 pm
@RL-33:
Wasn’t the KIngs SR cheque divided between the three CC unions?
30 Jan 2013, 17:57 pm
@David-44:
Which is more than can be said for the Lions cheque.
30 Jan 2013, 17:59 pm
@victoriabok-41: ” They would have been in for one year only
as well, and the result would have been the
same as this year”
again you are babbling untruths…do the research and then comment with background. the above statement is wrong.
30 Jan 2013, 17:59 pm
@Transformation-42: what were they doing with their 1/6th of their superrugby cheque – besides paying Pukes salary – keeping it all to themselves ala Lions style.
30 Jan 2013, 18:01 pm
@victoriabok-41:
Yup, and N.Tvl, WP and OFS didn’t qualify that year.
30 Jan 2013, 18:10 pm
@RL-33: after hogging Supee Rugby money for FIVE YEARS the lions were still s.hit but their relegation leaves a bitter taste in VictoriaBok’s mouth
and you want to tell me these self-proclaimed rugby lovers are objective…
tltltl
30 Jan 2013, 18:14 pm
@Transformation-49: and after the Watsons carved up a huge portion of superrugby money to pay Puke does it not leave you feeling sick!
When did i say anyone was objective Transformer, on this place hahahahahaha.
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