Serfontein to start against Lions
30 Jan 2013
Baby Boks centre Jan Serfontein has been included in the Bulls’ starting side for Saturday’s Gauteng Cup match against the Lions.
Serfontein will partner new Bulls recruit Lionel Mapoe in the midfield. Coach Frans Ludeke has also included two more former Lions in the pack, with Grant Hattingh and Paul Willemse starting in the second row.
Handre Pollard, another promising player who featured for the Baby Boks in the successful 2012 Junior World Championship campaign, is on the bench.
Bulls – 15 Jurgen Visser, 14 Travis Ismael, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Sampie Mastriet, 10 Louis Fouche, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Arno Botha, 7 Jean Cook, 6 Deon Stegmann (c), 5 Grant Hattingh, 4 Paul Willemse, 3 Frik Kirsten, 2 Willie Wepener, 1 Juan Schoeman.
Subs: 16 Bongo Mbonambi, 17 Hencus van Wyk, 18 Wiaan Liebenberg, 19 Cornell Hess, 20 Ruan Snyman, 21 Handre Pollard, 22 Ulrich Beyers, 23 Jacques du Plessis.
331 Comments
30 Jan 2013, 12:13 pm
This guy is a dragon.
30 Jan 2013, 12:17 pm
Thankfuckandmore. A Bulls thread.
30 Jan 2013, 12:38 pm
Look like they chose their B team – only Mapoe will start in first S15 game!
30 Jan 2013, 12:43 pm
Is this the Vodacom side?
30 Jan 2013, 12:50 pm
This is definately an understrenght Bulls side with mostly fringe players. I guess if the Lions beat the Bulls on Saturday they will again claim to be a CC side beating a Super Rugby side, just like they did last weekend when they beat an understrenght Cheetahs side.
30 Jan 2013, 13:00 pm
@Stoetbul9-5: You such a twat!! The fact is Stoetbul9 is that the Lions lost 21 players. This is a new team playing with heart and passion. The Cheetahs got a hiding with our new team..that is it. If the Lions beat the Bulls, this will be another small step in the right direction. If this Lions side can stick together, it will be a force to be reckoned with.
30 Jan 2013, 13:06 pm
Some very exciting players here.
With the exception of Fouche.
Where is Pollard?
30 Jan 2013, 13:09 pm
The lions are too a new team and they beat a Cheetahs side that had the likes of rhule, ebersohn, van zyl and viljoen…all of which are starting players for the cheetahs. Had the cheetahs have included sadie, smit, goosen, sarel, brussouw, adriaan, coenie etc etc it would have been a different ball game but that doesn’t take away from the lions win. this bull side on the other hand is one for the future and the bulls will have lots of depth this year. I reckon Jan can over take Venter and bench for Wynand, Mapoe and JJ will fight it out for the 13 jersey and the outside backs will too psh Basson and Zane as well as Akona. Where is Blommetjies thou and I hope Pollard does get some time to show what he is capable of. Very excited for this team. Loose forwards look great and Paul Willemse will be a bok and the bulls will regain their ‘tag’ as the lock factory for the boks…especially with Victor coaching them.
30 Jan 2013, 13:13 pm
I’m not too excited about the Bulls this season. Mediocre squad, in my view.
30 Jan 2013, 13:14 pm
@gunther-7:
On the bench
30 Jan 2013, 13:23 pm
@TooMuchRugby-10:
That’s no place for him.
With a donkey like Fouche starting.
That’s like having a vintage Aston and picking up your date in a citigolf.
30 Jan 2013, 13:27 pm
@Loyal Lion-6: So Loyal Lion, you are also one of the name calling bloggers on this site? I know the facts, and I also want to see the Lions do well and get back into Super Rugby next year. All I am saying is to be realistic and see it for what it is, warm up games. Again all credit to the Lions for that win.
30 Jan 2013, 13:27 pm
You can never under estimate any Bulls side. I think they will end mid table maybe pushing for a play off spot.
30 Jan 2013, 13:30 pm
@Tacitus-9: Agree, we are two seasons away from being a powerful force again. I am very exited about the young talent we have in the backs.
30 Jan 2013, 13:30 pm
@Loyal Lion, yourre a 1st class idiot! Lol
30 Jan 2013, 13:31 pm
@Stoetbul9-12: No I am not, but the Lions never bragged about beating a Super side, so your comment was not fair at all.
30 Jan 2013, 13:32 pm
@Slappes-15: Ag jy al weer…..wat maak jy hier!
30 Jan 2013, 13:32 pm
@Tacitus-9:
Indeed.
Some big weaknesses.
Especially in the pack.
30 Jan 2013, 13:37 pm
That Bulls team will give the Lions supporters another week of saying that they are world beaters.
30 Jan 2013, 14:08 pm
Great midfield combo. The rest, not so much, except for Arno Botha – he’s class.
30 Jan 2013, 14:09 pm
@cosca-19: Hey cocsac, shouldn’t you be over on the Kings thread, lauding Cheeky for the way in which he lured foreigners out here and now has to find creative ways of justifying their salaries?
30 Jan 2013, 14:28 pm
@Tacitus-9:
Aaah, the true value of a loyal supporter.
30 Jan 2013, 14:32 pm
@Stawm-22:
Can you not tell the difference between loyalty and reality?
As Prpvince supporter probably not.
30 Jan 2013, 14:33 pm
@gunther-7: Bakkies reckons Fouche is THE Bok 10 in waiting…..
30 Jan 2013, 14:34 pm
@Loyal Lion-16: I had many Lions supporters come to me this week saying that they were excluded from Super Rugby but they beat the Cheetahs. In our gym I already got told how the Lions are going to give the Bulls a hiding too. So I am not so sure if my comment is unfair. But let’s leave that there and hope we see a nice game of rugby from these two teams.
30 Jan 2013, 14:39 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-24:
He’s talking kak.
The guy is a cart horse.
We should have sold him to the lions and kept Cronje who has the added bonus of being handy at 15.
30 Jan 2013, 14:40 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-24: bakkies smokes boom! serious boom.
30 Jan 2013, 14:46 pm
@gunther-23:
Can you not tell the difference between a joke and a joke?
As the resident KEO joker, you should!
30 Jan 2013, 14:48 pm
@gunther-26: Just repeating what the ‘great one’ said throughout the CC last year
Note to Bakkies: Jy gaan jou mannetjie moet verdedig.
@Transformation-27:
30 Jan 2013, 14:49 pm
@Stawm-28:
Sorry.
Did you need a smiley at the end of my post to make it clearer?
Jokes apart though.
It really won’t be our year this year.
30 Jan 2013, 14:56 pm
@gunther-30:
I did, and thank you.
30 Jan 2013, 14:58 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-29:
Bakeries sometimes gets overexcited and wees on the carpet.
30 Jan 2013, 15:07 pm
Serfontein and Mapoe have the likelihood of being very attacking minded but might come under pressure defence wise.
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-24:
look, i believe the boy has got the goods and certainly shows plenty of potential.
there is no doubting the fact he has an educated boot and he had a few really good games for the bulls last season.
lets see how it goes
@gunther-26:
lmao
honestly Gunner, he’s not half as bad as you make him out to be.
@Transformation-27:
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-29:
hahahaha
baie snaaks
Louis kan homself verdedig
30 Jan 2013, 15:07 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-24:
Of all his delusional ramblings this one takes the cake.
Tip of the day: dont try and convince him otherwise.
30 Jan 2013, 15:09 pm
Really looking forward to see how SerfnTurf goes against the big boys. Nice looking centre pairing there.
30 Jan 2013, 15:10 pm
@gunther-32:
fokkof
——-
really busy at the omment
no time too chat
30 Jan 2013, 15:12 pm
i must say i am shocked the ‘New Laws’ thread has only received 42 responses.
thats half our farkin problem right there
we dont put the effort in to deal with these Kiwis decisively
sometimes you must tell your best friend to fark himself, for his sake and yours.
30 Jan 2013, 15:13 pm
i hope the Hore threads getting some action?
too busy to page back
—–
later folks
30 Jan 2013, 15:13 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-37:
I thought you busy
30 Jan 2013, 15:15 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-37:
and the truth of the matter is we dont do it nowhere near enough.
30 Jan 2013, 15:15 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-40:
its really the only reason for these laws
how shameful
30 Jan 2013, 15:16 pm
@Dawn-39:
i really am a t the momewnt , Dawn
30 Jan 2013, 15:17 pm
moment
30 Jan 2013, 15:18 pm
it just makes me sick to my stomach really to think there are people in the world who will actually enjoy, praise and encourage such behaviour.
its the pits.
30 Jan 2013, 15:19 pm
no sense of self respect
at all
ok thats my last word on the subject
30 Jan 2013, 15:20 pm
Greame Joffe just won’t let go…
“SASCOC’s new spokesperson”, Shane Keohane, tweeted from Durban at the weekend: Durban you have been an excellent host to honour a legend who has given his all to SA sport. Happy 75th Birthday to Sam Ramsamy
How does Shane Keohane, a New Zealander who has been in SA for a few years and with no PR experience, know what contribution Mr Ramsamy has made to SA sport? Give me a break.
A “proudly South African” SASCOC spokesperson, just like the Olympic clothing deal with the Chinese manufacturer, Erke.
Shane Keohane has seemingly assumed the position of SASCOC’s PR spokesperson, taking over from his brother who resigned in disgrace just before the London Olympics. Still to this day, no tender for the SASCOC PR account, which SASCOC awarded to HSM and Gideon Sam’s old “Bok” mate, Mark Keohane.
In September last year, Mark Keohane tweeted: Gideon & Tubby. I had pleasure of seeing the work put in over 4 yrs. Stay strong, stay united. There’s not a better Pres/CEO combo
Keo, come up for some air!
No doubt, you’ve seen a recent upsurge in Luke Watson PR and “good” publicity. Luke apologising for his Afrikaans insult and saying the Lions have been treated unfairly with Super rugby relegation.
Well, the spin doctor, Mark Keohane is Luke’s agent but when exposed that he wasn’t an accredited SARU agent, he quickly threw the hospital pass to brother, Shane, as the cover up.
The HSM stable also “own” the SA Rugby magazine to aid their spin but SA Rugby (SARU) have conveniently turned a blind eye.
In short, SA Rugby is not the registered trademark of HSM and if they use it they should be paying SARU a rights fee – which they haven’t. SARU also paid HSM a stipulated annual amount to produce Fifteen and other publications.
They’re all in bed together.
So, you can see why SARU never took any action against Keohane for being an unaccredited agent and why I got hogwash answers and lies from SARU to a number of my related questions in a previous column.
More importantly, SA sport is in turmoil due to the failings of SASCOC. “
30 Jan 2013, 15:26 pm
@gunther-32:
Damn you
Sitting in presentation and started laughing out loud at that comment
Arme Bakkies k@k nou maar letterlik en figuurlik af
30 Jan 2013, 15:28 pm
@Atlas-46: Well done Joffers my Boy!!!
30 Jan 2013, 15:30 pm
@Loyal Lion-48: Great entertainment
30 Jan 2013, 15:33 pm
keo must’ve pomped joffer’s daughter who was high on the gnome’s blow…
30 Jan 2013, 15:37 pm
Well played Joffers.
#jobsforpals
30 Jan 2013, 15:41 pm
What is Bakkies blathering about now
30 Jan 2013, 15:50 pm
@Loyal-holborsel-Lion, I see your stadium at hillbrowpark has been packed to capacity for the 2 games…. Not! Lol , where are the fans of this so-called proud union? Where ,in the sprawling JHb, are they hiding? Only 5k attended each game so far….. No fans = No union = uselessbunchofturds. Lol
30 Jan 2013, 16:15 pm
I wonder if we could scoop elton jantjies when morne is leaving for stade
30 Jan 2013, 16:20 pm
@xtremebull-54:
No
30 Jan 2013, 16:21 pm
Who is Jean Cook?
Or would a more appropriate question be: Where was he bought from?
30 Jan 2013, 16:26 pm
@xtremebull-54:
Probably.
Rumour has it that his younger brother is better.
30 Jan 2013, 16:31 pm
@gunther-57:
Your’e joking right? He was rubbish for the baby boks.
30 Jan 2013, 16:35 pm
@gunther-57: tony better than elton? lol…your sources are on the sauce.
tony got usurped by pollard in the jwc when he was the official back up to goosen…he is nowhere near better than elton…i’ve watched him from u19s he can develop to be decent.
30 Jan 2013, 17:12 pm
@Transformation-59:
tony can jol.
he’s a late bloomer.
30 Jan 2013, 17:21 pm
@gunther-60: HAYI can’t call the kid a bluemas!
embraboer!
30 Jan 2013, 17:30 pm
@Transformation-61:
speaking of bluemas where is KING10EP?
I want a photo.
30 Jan 2013, 19:10 pm
Thanks Bulls for developing one of the Sharks future centers. Much appreciated.
30 Jan 2013, 19:31 pm
@Dusky-63:
I thought it was the Cheetahs that was the Sharks development team?
30 Jan 2013, 19:36 pm
@stormersboy-64: Yes, the Stormers have taken all the Lions so we have to stick the second poorest top 5 union.
30 Jan 2013, 19:41 pm
@stormersboy-64:
Howzit fella.
30 Jan 2013, 19:53 pm
Conrad Jantjes, Gcobani Bobo, Bryan Habana, Bryan Mujati, Anton Van Zyl, Schalk Brits, Pat Cilliers, Martin Bezuidenhout, Ricky Januarie, Elton Jantjes, Jacques Fourie…………..I am quite sure there are more.
Heck – the Lions could make a whole Super rugby side out of those players that migrated to Cape Town.
30 Jan 2013, 19:54 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-24:
> Bakkies reckons Fouche is THE Bok 10 in waiting…..
Fouche is kak
30 Jan 2013, 19:55 pm
@victoriabok-68: Fouche is average so far. He does seem to have more to offer though.
30 Jan 2013, 19:57 pm
Michael Rhodes, Jaco Taute….
30 Jan 2013, 19:57 pm
@Dusky-69:
Like Spies?
Don’t hold your breath
30 Jan 2013, 20:00 pm
@victoriabok-71: You are going to hate this, but Pierre Spies should try play for a different team with a different game pattern to the Bulls.
Bulls rugby might not suit him, but he is an athlete – that’s for sure. His Springbok performances have been average because his skill set is not getting developed at the Bulls.
Sorry – I said it.
30 Jan 2013, 20:01 pm
A lot of youngsters in the team, very little Super rugby experience
I guess Ludeke is saving his front line players?
Why is Grant Hatting playing lock, he’s a loosie?
30 Jan 2013, 20:02 pm
@victoriabok-71: Needs a more open style. You just cant throw a loose forward with the pace of Spies away. There is a place for him, but he has not been taught properly how to use his best abilities.
He played wing at school and never really developed into a loose forward. Nice, committed guy though. Sad things have not panned out for him so far.
30 Jan 2013, 20:04 pm
@victoriabok-73: They should try Pierre Spies at lock. He is tall and strong enough and he has said he wouldn’t mind playing there. He might just find his place.
30 Jan 2013, 20:04 pm
@Dusky-72:
Yes, he should go and use his skill set at any other team
I would use him as a super sub, like Skinstadt, use his speed and power, let him come on at fifty minutes once the other team is starting to tire and the gaps appear
30 Jan 2013, 20:06 pm
@victoriabok-76: He doesn’t want to though. Pierre is dedicated and loyal to the Bulls.
30 Jan 2013, 20:08 pm
@Dusky-75:
Hy’s te sag vir ‘n slot, ‘n slot moet ‘n bliksem wees
Dink aan Wiese en Bakkies, nou wil jy vir Barbie se Ken tussen sulke ouens laat speel
Hy’s bang vir kontak, wat dink jy gaan ‘n harde slot met hom doen?
Hy’s te sag vir die pak period
Hy moes ‘n vleuel of heelagter gebly het
30 Jan 2013, 20:09 pm
@Dusky-77:
No correction, no-one else wants him
30 Jan 2013, 20:16 pm
Dusky he is kak,his speed does not help if he is softie.
30 Jan 2013, 20:22 pm
Die Serfontein outjie beter goed speel, daar’s groot verwagtinge van hom
Ek sien hy weeg amper 100kg
30 Jan 2013, 20:22 pm
@Fern-80: He wasn’t kak as a school boy though so there is something we are missing out on.
Like horses, you can’t change a cart horse into a hot blood race horse – its either part of their makeup or it isn’t but with Spies I am just not sure that enough work has been done with him to just throw him away.
I would like to see Spies play under another coach and perhaps some work to be done on his game. If someone could fix him – you would have an absolute monster of a player.
In my opinion, Spies is too tall and does not have the built in technique to cope at loose forward. I know there are loose forwards just as tall as him but they have had their entire careers from school to develop their technique.
For Spies to hit a ruck with his power zone, he has to virtually bend himself in half. Someone can help him. I dont believe enough effort has been put in.
30 Jan 2013, 20:23 pm
@victoriabok-81: Jirre – ek het nie geweet hy is so groot nie ! Ek hoop ook so – vir die Bulle se onthalwe.
30 Jan 2013, 20:25 pm
@victoriabok-78: Funny you say that. In one of the Sharks/Bulls encounter, Anton Bresler tackled Spies moer hard. Actually Bresler can tackle someone out their shoes, but his accuracy isn’t great.
When Spies got up from the tackle, there was a tell tale look on his face. I feel sorry for the chap though. Nice kid.
30 Jan 2013, 20:27 pm
@Dusky-82:
You can’t coach heart into a player
He’ll never be a Bakkies or Danie Rossouw
Look at Steggies, CJ and Arno perform, they don’t back down and the first two are small guys
He needs heart, he’s like a cowardly Great Dane stuck in a fight with Jack Russells and Bullies
30 Jan 2013, 20:28 pm
@victoriabok-85: Ja – shame man….
Someone needs to klap him around a bit and get him to strip his moer a bit.
I have a buddy that is the same. Flippin oke looks like a cyborg or something. Nearly 7 foot tall. Wouldn’t hurt a fly even if you put a gun against his head. The best you get from him is that okes maar walk around him just from his look but I am sure someone half his size would bliksem him in a fight.
30 Jan 2013, 20:30 pm
@Dusky-83:
Jan Serfontein
Position: Centre
Height:1,87
Weight
97
Date of Birth
April 15 1993
Place of Birth
Port Elizabeth
30 Jan 2013, 20:30 pm
@victoriabok-85: Let Spies go spend a couple of months in the Du Plessis household with Jannie & Bismark
While we at it, we ask Bakkies and AJ Venter to join as well.
30 Jan 2013, 20:31 pm
@victoriabok-87: Excellent. Good luck !
30 Jan 2013, 20:31 pm
@victoriabok-87:
> Jan Serfontein
> Place of Birth Port Elizabeth
Al die Kings supporters gaan hom ook claim
30 Jan 2013, 20:31 pm
@victoriabok-90: Hy wou nie vir kak speel nie.
30 Jan 2013, 20:33 pm
Pollard is ook ‘n groot seun
Handrè Pollard
Position: Fly half
Height: 1.89
Weight: 96kg
30 Jan 2013, 20:36 pm
@Dusky-88:
Nee, hy moet op Geo en Jacques Cronje se plaas gaan oefen met Danie Rossouw as afrigter
Dis jammer Tommie Laubscher leef nie meer nie, hy sou hom gewys het dat regte spiere baie sterker is as die van die apteek en die gym
30 Jan 2013, 20:38 pm
@victoriabok-93:
30 Jan 2013, 20:42 pm
Julle wat vir Pierre so afkraak is net jaloers op sy spiere
Pierre kan julle een vir een bo sy kop uitstoot en julle rugstringetjies breek, net so
30 Jan 2013, 20:43 pm
@victoriabok-93: Harde bliksems wat daar van klein stede af kom…..Bethlehem, Newcastle, Bethulie, Estcourt, Sabie, Klerksdorp………….Du Plessis broers, Bakkies, AJ Venter, Henry Honiball, Danie Rossouw, Cronje broers…………
Ek dink daai seuns moet fight vir survival op skool jong………
30 Jan 2013, 20:51 pm
@victoriabok-93: Henry Tromp….Otjiwarongo, Suid Wes.
30 Jan 2013, 20:54 pm
@Dusky-96:
Miskien moet die Bulls hom vir ‘n seisoen leen vir die Griffons op Welkom
Hulle het net ‘n UFC gym daar
Hy sal hard terugkom
30 Jan 2013, 20:56 pm
@Dusky-97:
Ons het vir Jan Ellis op Rayton, hy’s ook ‘n Suidwester en was ook ‘n harde bliksem op sy dag
Hy’s vandag nog hard op sy oudag, hulle het sy vulstasie so paar jaar terug beroof en hom ‘n paar keer met ‘n AK geskiet en hy het hulp gaan roep en dit oorleef
30 Jan 2013, 20:58 pm
@victoriabok-98: Ek het gewerk in Welkom. Navorsing projek op die myne. Daai mense is taai………ek was meestal bang vir die ou tannies daar. Hulle het almal daai uitdrukking op hulle gesigte wat se ‘ek vat nie kak nie’
30 Jan 2013, 21:01 pm
@Dusky-100:
Hulle haal eers hulle tanne uit voordat hulle jou bliksem
Wat se navorsing doen jy?
30 Jan 2013, 21:02 pm
@victoriabok-99: ‘n hele paar van hulle het probeer om my te kry on hulle dogters te kom ‘ontmoet’
A few of those girls out there are quite pretty and pretty desperate to get out of Welkom. Unfortunately I was already engaged……
30 Jan 2013, 21:02 pm
@victoriabok-101: Sou eerder nie hier se nie.
30 Jan 2013, 21:04 pm
@Dusky-103:
Geoloog?
30 Jan 2013, 21:05 pm
@victoriabok-104: Soort van. Good guess !
30 Jan 2013, 21:05 pm
@Dusky-102:
Ja right, what happens in Welkom stays in Welkom?
For nine months at least that is
30 Jan 2013, 21:08 pm
@Dusky-105:
My pêl in ‘n Myn geoloog, hy’t eers hier in Kanada gewerk teen die Alaska grens en nou werk hy in Oz
Die een plek waar hy hier gebly het bo die Poolsirkel was dit -50 en nou by die myn in die Outback word dit ook 50, dis +50C
Hy sê hy vat eerder die koue
30 Jan 2013, 22:41 pm
Oh, all my Afrikaans has melted away….I can understood about 3 words!
30 Jan 2013, 22:42 pm
I have also forgotten how to speak English….’I can understood’…has to be a classic!
30 Jan 2013, 23:24 pm
@carol-109: I see you can speak Bulls. Not too many foreigners can.
30 Jan 2013, 23:30 pm
mein godt this bugger serfontein is good, had he gone to province to part de jong, i reckon they might as well give them the trophy now.
30 Jan 2013, 23:35 pm
@cab-111: You forget they’re still stuck with Brok & Kokkie up front.
30 Jan 2013, 23:37 pm
@katman-112:
nah mate they got cilliers and kitshoff, thats going to be a moerse combo, that cilliers got a helluva engine on him and with the big province pack – i seriously reckon they going to klap almal.
30 Jan 2013, 23:40 pm
@cab-113: Ja, maybe you’re right. Guys like Elstadt and Etzebeth also count double points. And once Elton slots in at 10, with Taute at 15, that team will cook.
30 Jan 2013, 23:47 pm
@katman-114:
yeah, exactly – but jantjies not that great, i rather have grant or joe pietersen at 10 with taute at 15.
lions gave the cheetahs carrots, but i think they going to be scattered to all corners.
30 Jan 2013, 23:50 pm
night.
30 Jan 2013, 23:52 pm
Jantjies is a bad buy.. he should have stayed at leeusers or gone to bulletjies rather.. Province is the wrong place for him.. we got way better options at 10… Grant, Pietersen, Schreuder, Van Aswegen, even Coleman or Duvenhage better options at 10 than Jantjies.. was a very poor trade off buying Jantjies and losing both Pollard and JL Du Plessis as a direct fallout of the package deal.
31 Jan 2013, 00:45 am
@skopdiekan-117:
What a load of twaddle… not one of those you mentioned above has been capped as a Bok… Jantjies has and is… but you know better than the professionals right?
31 Jan 2013, 00:56 am
@bryce_in_oz-118:
Think Grant was/is a Bok?
But you correct on the “twaddle” bit
31 Jan 2013, 01:03 am
yeah I know better than the professionals… I play any one of those I mention above ahead of Jantjies and I got a better pivot for the WP style game than Jantjies… Jantjies is no great shakes as a SR or international fly half.. talented enough but no real great shakes at the top tier of rugby.
Joe Pietersen would be far better and so would either Schreuder or Duvenhage
The worst part is that both Pollard and JL Du Plessis signed at rival franchises because they felt with Jantjies in the saddle they would not be first choice for some time to come….. 2 top level WP bred pivots lost to WP because of short term poor decision making signing a mediocre fly half like Jantjies as a stop gap.
31 Jan 2013, 01:39 am
Will take the once proud Bulls Union few years to be a SR contender, if ever
Just read the names there, and they still to throw in the mix the likes of Chiliboi, Ndungane, Kirchner or Basson
Are they kidding themselves?
31 Jan 2013, 06:00 am
@skopdiekan-120:
”
yeah I know better than the professionals…”
Firstly your pre-hindsight tipping record is abominable… secondly Alister Coetzee has a Rugby World Cup medal, a Currie Cup medal and more importantly a RSA S15 conference medal… so pull the other one Ubu!
“Joe Pietersen would be far better and so would either Schreuder or Duvenhage”
Oh Ubu… all those un-natural legumes and grains are clearly going to your brain…
Firstly Schreuder is a SCRUM HALF and has never repped at any decent level at 10… secondly Duvenage is an average SCRUM HALF (as is his choice) let alone a cheap 10 replacement !
“The worst part is that both Pollard and JL Du Plessis signed at rival franchises because they felt with Jantjies in the saddle they would not be first choice for some time to come”
Oh no not again Ubu… I can smell that GMO corn-breath… the Jantjies ‘loan-then-contract’ was not even a falafel-**** in the wind before the yound Pollard left for the Bulls!
Sort yourself out Ubu!
31 Jan 2013, 08:52 am
I believe the bulls have a stronger squad than last season and in all honesty, if it wasn’t for those daft losses at home to the blues and stormers….we’d have been right up there. All this in a season where we lost plenty of players coupled with morne having his poorest season.
Don’t quite get why the Bulls have been so quickly written off? Because of a supershite CC campaign? Well, okay then.
31 Jan 2013, 09:04 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-123: I agree the Bulls have a good squad, but they lack the game changers they had when they were so successful.
31 Jan 2013, 09:04 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-123:
The fact that Marius Jonker has retired will also count heavily against the bulls. I know you will disagree but I can assure you each and every overseas rugby supporter won’t and quit a large percentage of local supporters of other SA Francises won’t disagree either.
31 Jan 2013, 09:17 am
@skopdiekan-117: Jeesus, but you can mos like to talk kak as jy die dag lus het. Ground control to Major Tom, your circuit’s dead, there’s something wrong…
31 Jan 2013, 09:21 am
@Robzim-125:
Now now Zimbobob.
He pulled a very nice scrum penalty out of the pocket to hand it to your boys against the bulls last year.
31 Jan 2013, 09:31 am
@gunther-127:
You are not a “local suporter who support another Franchise” as per my post # 125 above so your views re the bulls are biased in their favour
Remember that forward pass against the Brumbies when he let the game go on despite ‘honest” morne Steyn neary begging him to call it forward?
31 Jan 2013, 09:34 am
@gunther-127:
Marius is the modern day Tappe Henning (without the moustache).
31 Jan 2013, 09:34 am
Firstly Schreuder had his best outing for WP ever at 10 not at scrumhalf. Secondly in Joe Pietersen Stormers got a talented quick think fleet footed pivot way better than Jozi wunderkind Jantjes who almost single handedly lost Lions a few games last year. Thirdly Duvenhage also had his best outing ever playing at 10 for Stormers. Fourthly Peter Grant Gary Van Sweden and Kurt Coleman are all very capable and talented pivots better than Jantjetie.
So why WP Stormers had to go wooing Jantjes away from his beloved Leeusers and in the process lose the loyalty of both Pollard and JL Du Plessis as a direct result of the short term thinking process only these dumb bewildered idiot so called ‘ rugby professionals ‘ and these so called rugby ‘fundi’s’ will know.
31 Jan 2013, 09:35 am
He saved your boys though on the day?
31 Jan 2013, 09:39 am
@skopdiekan-130: You’re talking from you bumhole again.
Do have have to stand up to do this?
31 Jan 2013, 09:41 am
@skopdiekan-130:
How do you measure the worth of an untested schoolboy against a Bok?
Maybe the Province Board don’t believe in the magic 8 ball.
31 Jan 2013, 09:42 am
@bryce_in_oz-122: Pollard had already signed with the Bulls about 2 years back. Everyone knew it, except the WPRFU, who spent months jumping through hoops and believing Daddy Pollard’s ‘stories’
Du Plessis IMHO left because of the way he was ignored, whilst all and sundry was licking Pollards crack, making him Craven week captain etc etc etc, when he was never going to return the favour. Jean-Luc was always 2nd to Handre’s first…….and that when Handre’s future was an open secret in the Cape….
Nothing to do with Jantjies at all, and I praise the rugby gods that Elton IS HERE
In trade for Pollard, we did get the young Eksteen from Pretoria – no shabby touch at 10, as anyone who watched Craven week would know. Also here is young Jordaan, the Free State 10 from Grey (Paul’s brother).
Added to that we have: Coleman, Grant, van Aswegen, Swiel (who many think should jol at 15) etc etc etc.
Elton tops the pecking order amongst this lot……. fact.@skopdiekan-130: The above post is meant for you.
31 Jan 2013, 09:42 am
@skopdiekan-130:
Pollard went before Jantjes arrived.
So Jantjes is good enough for the Boks but not the Stormers?
You are a special one.
31 Jan 2013, 09:45 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-134:
Looking forward to happy biffday tomorrow?
Have you sent your message if congratulations?
31 Jan 2013, 09:46 am
Most informed and sane rugby fans, coaches and experts agree on Jantjies, Goosen and Lambie being the top three flyhalfs in SA, although they don’t always agree on the order.
But only a deranged windowlicker would chuck in Duvenhage, Coleman, Swiel, van Aswegen etc into that mix.
31 Jan 2013, 09:46 am
@skopdiekan-130:
Pollard committed to the Bulls in March 2011 already and du Plessis could not even make the WP craven week team so I have no idea how you an rate him so highly. Have you ever seen him play?
Joe Pietersen is a fullback/wing who has hardly ever played flyhalf so yet again i dont know on what you base your assuption that he will be better at no 10 than Jantjes.
Coleman is still in the Province and therefore has the opportunity to show he is beter than jantjes- lets see how he goes on Saturday. I have my serious doubts though.
Grant has had all the chances in the world but has proved over and over that he is not up to scratch in games where it really counts (like semi finals) while van Aswegen always seems to be injured.
Jantjes and Swiel (maybe van Aswegen) are the way forward.
31 Jan 2013, 09:49 am
Nope I’m the only one talking any sense its all you wunderkind displaced disciples thinking and talking Kakadu. Jantjes was a poor short term decision that had a direct fallout result of WP losing the long term loyalty of both Pollard and JL Du Plessis which as a direct consequence is a downright travesty especially when we got far better capable pivots to fill the void in the meantime. Check how it plays out then tell me I was wrong at the arse end of the season it already is kicking off on the wrong booty.
Out n about now cherio
31 Jan 2013, 09:56 am
No new stories today?
31 Jan 2013, 09:59 am
Eksteen is not a patch on either of Pollard JL Du Plessis Van Aswegen or Swiel. Another pisspoor lousy second grade trade off when we got far better nurtured and developed locally. Peter Grants still a better pivot than Jantjes even n his old age and just like Butch showed why in Jozi so will Grant show here.
31 Jan 2013, 10:00 am
@gunther-136: Can’tfuckingwait
I have sent quite a a few messages actually, through various platforms.
The most pleasing thing tomm, is knowing that there are dumfuckwits all over the country; sitting in front of their ‘tellies’; wondering just how ther object of their ‘HATE’ for so many years, managed to get this far
I will feed off their Smith hate (and their whinging tomm), and enjoy the moment all the more because of it.
31 Jan 2013, 10:03 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-142:
Who hates Biff?
Who dares?
31 Jan 2013, 10:04 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-142:
Korrec.
A great day for the great man.
31 Jan 2013, 10:06 am
@Dawn-143: Many of them out there Dawn….sicklittletamponsuckingvampires. I spit on them.
@Gunther: you might enjoy this Haysman piece. After his Armstrong attack I swore to never read anything he dribbles out ever again, but I failed. This is a great article. http://www.supersport.com/cricket/blogs/mike-haysman/Discovering_talent_the_Imran_Khan_way
31 Jan 2013, 10:09 am
Young Jordaan is actually the way to vorder forward now that Pollard & Du Plessis are gone and Jantjes very much a wish and a prayer dream in divine investment.
31 Jan 2013, 10:11 am
@skopdiekan-130:
I cant understand why the Super Rugby franchises arent chomping at the bit to sign you up as a coach. You know more than any other coach in the world.
31 Jan 2013, 10:12 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-145:
Mike Haysman irritates me.
I thought we’d got rid of him when he left to chase Stanford’s dollars.
Lo and behold he’s back with his tail between his legs.
31 Jan 2013, 10:12 am
Fckme yakking Skittle sticks again that last vestige of colonial deformity of thought process that me out for the rest of the day.
31 Jan 2013, 10:14 am
@skopdiekan-149:
English?
31 Jan 2013, 10:15 am
@skopdiekan-130: Tos man!
31 Jan 2013, 10:15 am
@skopdiekan-149:
I thought you were going?
Take your babytalk with you.
31 Jan 2013, 10:15 am
@Stawm-147: pity it’s true too bad you never get the benefit of finding out the fact of it
31 Jan 2013, 10:16 am
@gunther-148: He irritates the beejesusmaryandjosephanddonkey out of me. He went West Indian Island hopping like a greedyfckwit. All he saw was $$$$$ at the time. (There was huge cash floating around if I recall correctly….)
I guess Supersport snapped him back out of the ‘Bargain Box’?
31 Jan 2013, 10:16 am
@skopdiekan-153:
You should start a religion.
31 Jan 2013, 10:17 am
@gunther-152: Cherio you stupid colonic Skittle sticks sucking chump
31 Jan 2013, 10:17 am
@Stawm-155: Ok, snorting coffee out of my nostrils…..
31 Jan 2013, 10:18 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-142: Treu legend of the game. One, who most will only realise after he departs how great a cricketer this guy really is.
Hats off to the great man. He deserves it.
31 Jan 2013, 10:18 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-154:
He was Stanford’s cricket advisor based in Miami and then when it went bang he came back cap in hand.
I’m sure my pal Imtiaz hired him back at half price.
31 Jan 2013, 10:18 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-157:
Pic, or it didnt happen!
31 Jan 2013, 10:20 am
@Stawm-155: you reckon that’s good business better than this religious delusion called rugby or this other inane idiocy called Skittle sticks?
31 Jan 2013, 10:20 am
In a “moneyball” senario…..to win the supercomp you need a flyhalf that will average 18 points a game approx. in my opinion.
and in the big games….probably 20-24 points a game if it is a high scoring affair.
If it is a low scoring game, your flyhalf needs to have the boot to keep you in the right part of the field.
Historically when you look at past winners.. Mehrtens,Spencer,Larkham(the exception), Carter,Hougaard, Cooper, Morne….and the new kiwi kid.
They all did this.
In my opinion, only Jantijies,Goosen and Lambie have this potential from what I have seen. Apparently Pollard, who I have not seen and may well just be hype.
M.Steyn and Hougaard are the only ones to have proven it in SA before.
For all their popularity, Butch and Lem weren’t exactly metronomic at getting points on the board albeit very strong in other aspects of the game. Both probably saved by monty and joubert on occassion. It is particularly hypothetical but would the sharks have won back in 1998 if they had a different sort of flyhalf?(Robbed against the crusaders in my opinion) Or even in 2007 if butch had taken that conversion?
Stransky still possibly the most underrated flyhalf we had in the modernish era.
31 Jan 2013, 10:20 am
@gunther-159: That’s it. He was based in Miama, and regularly flitted around the West Indies….the life
Defo in the bargain bin.
@Stawm-160: I have the burning nostris and tears of coffee trailing down my cheeks.
31 Jan 2013, 10:21 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-154: Saw some old footage of him in his playing day. Fark that mullet was out of control!!! I reckon he is Poen from the ‘Kraagkroon Chronicles’
31 Jan 2013, 10:25 am
@Stawm-155:
Indeed.
Even David Icke is terrified of him.
I would live to see the poisonous little dwarf holed up in a farmhouse in the Karoo with the throwing environmentally friendly Molotov cocktails at the army.
31 Jan 2013, 10:25 am
@skopdiekan-161:
I reckon you certainly have the skills to bedazzle a crowd of people needing direction. The more they cant understand you, the more they will believe you.
31 Jan 2013, 10:26 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-158:
Smitty maywell yet go down as the greatest opener of the modern age yet. Hayden a slightly higher average at the minute but not sure if smith has more runs yet or more hundreds?
Those are the 2 in my opinion but to be fair Hayden was dropped out of sight for a few seasons after the proteas toured in 1994 so as a result his average is somewhat hidden. Smth has played through big dips in form and still averages just under 50. For an opener in this day and age that is phenominal.
Ironically, both very suspect techniques. Smith plays naturally with a lot of bottom hand and hayden didn’t move his feet for squat. Very graeme pollock like, it is all about balance with a great eye for the ball.
31 Jan 2013, 10:28 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-163:
You can thank me for your clear sinuses later!
31 Jan 2013, 10:29 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-164: Ok, more coffee coming out of my nostrils. I feel like a frothing coffee machine at the fuckingMuggandbean.
31 Jan 2013, 10:31 am
@gunther-165:
I think his verbal insults would do more damage than his freshly squeezed molotov cocktails!
31 Jan 2013, 10:33 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-162:
Why does it have to be the flyhalf? I reckon that if more players developed their goal kicking skills they’d be more attractive to a coach, as it would provide him with more tactical selection options. Without Mortlock or Giteau to provide a kicking option, I doubt whether Larkham would have made the team at 10.
31 Jan 2013, 10:35 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-167: Haydn and Sehwag best openers of the 2000′s
31 Jan 2013, 10:35 am
http://www.sport24.co.za/Multimedia/Extreme-Sport/Biggest-wave-ever-20130130
I love the water just as much as the next coastal person…..and I’ve been reckless and stupid in the ocean at times, and fortunately lived to regret my stupidity and gain more and more respect for the goddess (or god) who rules the waters of the world.
But this?
This is ET level fuckingretardation.
31 Jan 2013, 10:39 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-173: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X7d9hMVJWQ
Or that…… nee man die mense is befokverby.
31 Jan 2013, 10:40 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-167: His technique still baffles me sometimes. Given the way he sets up he has to have a great eye otherwise he would be buggered. The other problem with that is that if he is off the boil just a bit he is stuffed completely.
31 Jan 2013, 10:41 am
lag my gat af
Zille: I did not inhale Gupta money
To write about Zuma and Zille, those
politicians from the bottom of the
alphabetical bucket, you have to start in
Syria. There’s terrible footage today, on
YouTube and its lesser cousin, television, of
more than 100 corpses dumped in a concrete
watercourse in Aleppo, Syria. Rows and rows
of them, mostly young men, their hands tied
behind their backs. It appears they’ve all
been shot in the head. There’s blood seeping
from their wounds, mixing with the water left
as the river receded and exposed the horror.
Who killed these people? The Syrian regime
blames “terrorist gangs”. Rebel groups blame
the Syrian government. The dead people
have no opinion on the matter. Who is telling
the truth? It doesn’t really matter. What
matters is who Syrians will choose to believe.
In South Africa, we have the Democratic
Alliance (DA) and the ANC engaged in a spat
about sucking at the Guptas’ teat. Which little
piggie got more milk? It doesn’t matter. The
only truth is that the teat is always,
inevitably, attached to the sow.
So now we have Helen Zille and the New Age
bitchslapping one another. Like a teenager
whose BFF has dissed him or her by not
coming to the birthday party, the New Age is
making hysterical accusations about betrayal
and hypocrisy. “Helen told me she wasn’t
coming to my party because I was friends
with Telkom, but I caught her kissing Telkom
behind the garden shed!”That’s essentially
what the story of Zille cancelling her New Age
breakfast appearance is about. And “Helen
made friends with my boyfriend behind my
back!” could have been the headline for the
New Age’s story about the DA getting funding
from a Gupta employee.
lol
31 Jan 2013, 10:41 am
@Dilligafrican-172:
Sewag possibly. But I would still have smith opening for me given the choice.
31 Jan 2013, 10:42 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-169: Snoto Late…..
31 Jan 2013, 10:43 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-178: And the coffee machine that is my nose, just bubbles on
31 Jan 2013, 10:44 am
@Dilligafrican-172: Sewag a great player but never able to adapt to the situation at hand which makes him a bit of a liability but when gets cracking it truly is awesome to watch.
31 Jan 2013, 10:45 am
Gents and lady, month end is upon me and I have got to make the figures balance. Have a great one. Chat again
31 Jan 2013, 10:47 am
@David-171:
I suppose it doesn’t and hasn’t on occassions with Mortlock,Montgomry,Lacroix,Eales,etc all having done goal kicking duties.
But logically it should be the players who touch the ball the most and that is generally your 9 and 10. given that they are the ones who can influence the game the most. And outside of john robbie and I think I saw kockott as well, the 9 is not in a position to drop goals when the need arises. So 10 will still remian the best position to have your “points accumulator” in.
31 Jan 2013, 10:49 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-180:
well exactly…he is a hacker. Abit like Gale really. Those okes can’t build an innings they just smash them selves to a score sometimes.
Also the major fault with gibbs in his time and the reason he never became a better player.
31 Jan 2013, 10:49 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-181:
yeah…good luck with that.
31 Jan 2013, 10:50 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-179:
You having to much coffee it seems ruck
31 Jan 2013, 10:53 am
more
There’s a bizarre moment in Zille’s weekly
letter on the DA website. Describing how she
didn’t get paid BY the Guptas, but AT the
Guptas’ (“I did not inhale the Guptas’
money”, if you will), she writes: “I and my
colleague Ian Davidson duly went to the
Guptas’ home, ate some of the most delicious
food I have ever eaten, and received the
cheque for R200 000 from the individual who
had made the pledge.”
Really? You’re complimenting the Guptas on
the gravy in their trough? Perhaps this
absurd description is designed to make us
believe that this was an ordinary evening,
rather than a furtive liaison. Alas, it
succeeds. The economy of corruption in
South African politics is indeed mundane and
ordinary. Inevitably, it will lead to a riverbed
with scattered bodies, or the side of a hill in
Marikana, and nobody to blame but
ourselves.
31 Jan 2013, 10:54 am
Boeremag accused rejects parents
Pretoria – One of the Boeremag treason accused on Wednesday rejected his parents’ declarations of undying love.
Their utterances were “dishonest” and “conditional”, self-confessed Boeremag bomber Kobus Pretorius told the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria. He said he had never experienced sincere love from his father and co-accused Dr Lets Pretorius, or from his mother Minnie.
Piet Pistorius, for Dr Pretorius, put it to him that his parents loved him unconditionally and would slaughter the proverbial fattened calf and have a feast when he returned home one day.
He replied that he had stopped reading their letters because he was tired of them stabbing him in the back and bad-mouthing his “new parents” (his religious advisor Sonja Jordaan and her husband). Pistorius put it to him that his background painted a picture of love, compassion and strong family ties.
Pretorius jnr replied: “Their love was never the love for a child, but the love for a possession. They want their possession back. If we were raised so well, why did three intelligent young men become involved in the Boeremag case?”
As a trained engineer, Pretorius admitted he was an intelligent man who could think for himself, but insisted he was not raised to think critically.
“Madness is logical reasoning from the wrong premise. I used my intelligence from the wrong premise, which was laid by Mr and Mrs Pretorius,” he said.
He felt aggrieved that his father had not only accused him of being schizophrenic, but had stated as a fact that he was schizophrenic, which was not true.
He conceded drifting from one religious adviser to the next in jail, but said it was because he was searching for sincerity, which he had found for the first time in Mrs Jordaan.
Emotional bond
On Tuesday, Pretoria told the court his parents had “raped his soul” and that he had never had an emotional bond with them during his childhood years.
Pretorius distanced himself from what he described as his family’s extreme political and religious beliefs.
He referred to his father and brothers, Johan and Wilhelm, by their numbers as accused, and to his mother as “Mrs Pretorius” throughout his evidence.
The 20 Boeremag accused, including his father and brothers, had all been convicted of high treason resulting from a far right-wing plot to violently overthrow the African National Congress-led government.
Pretorius handed a poem titled “Rape” to the court, in which he compared being raised by his parents to a young girl being raped by a man.
He found it upsetting when a psychiatrist later told him his description of rape was accurate, as it made him realise what trauma he had been put through as a child, and as an adult, until the age of 37.
According to Pretorius, his father was strict and often spanked him, to such an extent that he was scared of male teachers throughout his school years.
In primary school, he was chosen to play in the Craven week rugby, but withdrew at his father’s urging because black children were also playing.
According to Pretorius, he initially regarded his father as his hero and could not function without him. He started realising only after several years in jail that his father was not the man he thought he was, and that he had to “unplug” himself from the hold his father had over him.
The final rift started when he told his father he did not want to stay with the family if he was granted bail, because his ideology, value system and religion differed from theirs.”I grew up with the idea of white superiority, but I no longer feel that way,” he said. After the hearing on Tuesday, Dr Pretorius handed a poem to journalists in which he described his pain and sorrow about his son.
31 Jan 2013, 10:55 am
@Transformation-176:
There’s only one sow in SA and it fat pig Zoomer.
He’s had his greasy snout in the trough for so long he can physically move away.
#baconbomb
31 Jan 2013, 11:00 am
@Mr Black-185: Only 1 mug, but I kept snorting it out at these comments.
31 Jan 2013, 11:01 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-177:
Alistair Cook is rapidly proving his status as an opener, and on current form I’d prefer him over Smittie.
31 Jan 2013, 11:02 am
@Sheriff-187: “He conceded drifting from one religious adviser to the next in jail, but said it was because he was searching for sincerity, which he had found for the first time in Mrs Jordaan.”
This fella needs some scripture from the books of ET and Skop….
31 Jan 2013, 11:04 am
@David-190:
Let’s look at him over 100 tests and then decide.
The point he has making that is that it is quite some achievement to ever age 49 over 100 tests as an opener.
31 Jan 2013, 11:04 am
@David-190:
True, Cook is playing well lately but let us see how he goes against the ozzies.
I have afeeling he will get in trouble.
One thing is for sure, smitty has the toughest jaw since steve waugh in my opinion.
31 Jan 2013, 11:06 am
@David-190:
it will be interesting to see how he goes long term with the captaincy.
For now it’s seems to work for him he’s having a purple patch.
31 Jan 2013, 11:07 am
@gunther-192:
Wrong post sorry.
31 Jan 2013, 11:09 am
In test cricket the “rule’ when judging batsmen is usually:
Average above 55- Exceptional
50-55- Very good
45-50- Good
<45— the rest.
Therefore, Hayden/Schewag was/is very good and Smith/Cook is good. Kallis and Sangakarra are exceptional. Gayle cannot even be compared as his average is low 40's.
31 Jan 2013, 11:16 am
@Robzim-196:
Less than a run divides Smith and Sehwag in the average stakes.
Although Smith has 3 more centuries.
Honours even I’d say.
Take into consideration that if you assume a player plays half his games at home South Africa has amongst the most challenging pitches in the world.
India does not.
31 Jan 2013, 11:18 am
@gunther-197:
ja, and india usually play bangledesh 15 times a year.
31 Jan 2013, 11:19 am
same as mulitheran stats being compared to warne.
sri lanka played bangledesh umteen times a year.
31 Jan 2013, 11:20 am
My Chris always gets the short end of the stick
31 Jan 2013, 11:21 am
chris’s stick is probably the longest of the lot and the reason you rate him so highly?
31 Jan 2013, 11:23 am
@gunther-197:
Fair points. I know they also use the “friendly pitches” argument when comparing Warne and Muri– Muri played much more on spinners friendly pitches (sub continent) than Shane did.
31 Jan 2013, 11:24 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-199:
Ja, sorry i posted the same , did not see your post.
31 Jan 2013, 11:26 am
Sangakarra’s average of 55+ for a wicketkeeper is just insane.
31 Jan 2013, 11:28 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-201:
He’s a kuk cricketer but for some reason always gets mentioned by the fundis when batting is discussed
I wonder why
31 Jan 2013, 11:38 am
@Dawn-205:
because he is not a kak cricketer…he’s just not the best cricketer.
31 Jan 2013, 11:38 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-191:
This trial has been going on for a long time.
I read the article and thought that many boerseuns (not them only but this case illustrates it) find themselves in that type of situation. Emotional abusive parents.
Why is that? Well it’s because the ideology of apartheid based on the false Nazi religion or occult resulted in a national drive to ‘rise from the ashes’ – eg the South African War of 1902. Leaders became diabolically obsessed with ‘work’ (for the cause of the afrikaner) and young impressionable men absorbed these teachings.
As life goes they eventually get married and have children. These fathers are now so numbed/challenged emotionally that they are unable to bond with their children. They become the judgmental authority figures preferring to read their ‘Die Burger’ or ‘Beeld’ or ‘Volksblad’ newspaper instead of tuning into the child’s world.
Of course a generalisation but I think our sample will be representative enough.
Now out of this dysfunctional dynamic – you cannot call it a relationship – weird behavioural patterns get established. The submissive ones go into ‘gatkruip mode’ ; the angry ones join ‘rebellious type organisations’ ; overly religious ones get involved in cults/sects and the artistic ones are labelled ghay.
Anyway, some have speculated that this craving for fatherly affirmation and love, turns sexual…
31 Jan 2013, 11:39 am
@Dawn-205:
It’s to do with the c ocky/confident (nearly arrogant) but still cool and “go for it” attitude of many jamaicans.
Bolt, gayle, Bob marley ……….
31 Jan 2013, 11:40 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-206:
Stop dissing Mr Cool.
Jamaican Dawn crazy.
31 Jan 2013, 11:41 am
@Robzim-208:
Although gayle cannot really be compared to the other 2 in terms of greatness. Sorry Dawn.
31 Jan 2013, 11:46 am
@Transformation-186: Can’t blame the Guptas for covering their bases.
31 Jan 2013, 11:47 am
@gunther-209:
bet the after game parties at Gayles pad must be the best by far though.
jaimacan me higher……like a lion…. in zion…
31 Jan 2013, 11:54 am
@gunther-209:
31 Jan 2013, 11:54 am
Some may view post 207 as an attack on the afrikaners.
It is not.
Instead, it aimed at unmasking the ‘manufactured false religion’ which these leaders created and called it ‘afrikanerdom’
At the heart of it lies false religion, that is: a system based on false beliefs.
How can you blame anyone who is born into a white afrikaans speaking family in south africa for being afrikaans? It’s absurd. These men and women bring valuable traits and abilities to the south african table. In other words, they bring us much – not more not less – than anyone else to the table.
But our task has to be this: to unmask false religion
If we do that, problems like lack of game time in rugby for players of colour will be no more. Fear and the resultant suspicion of anyone who does not look like you will be phase out.
31 Jan 2013, 11:55 am
@Sheriff-214:
What are you talking about?
31 Jan 2013, 11:56 am
What has false religion got to do with game time
31 Jan 2013, 11:59 am
@Sheriff-214: jou fassinasie spreek meer van jou as wat jy sê
31 Jan 2013, 11:59 am
@stormersboy-211:
They’ve got the knives out for the DA now.
I doubt there is any more cash coming their way.
31 Jan 2013, 12:02 pm
@shooter-217:
Is nogal waar
31 Jan 2013, 12:05 pm
Who are these Guptas
How does one get an invite to dinner
31 Jan 2013, 12:05 pm
@Dawn-215:
You know what I’m talking about. Digest and reflect.
You always like to know what I’m up to so here. One of my tasks yesterday was to pick up my son at a rather big athletics meeting held at Pilditch.
Upon my arrival the announcer (frustrated or overlooked commentator) was doing his thing in Afrikaans. In a fleeting moment I remembered the days when everything was Afrikaans or shall I say Afrikaner.
Even saw Pieter Hendriks (who ran around Campese in 95) there. I first had a chuckle to myself (hearing the commentary) and then thought: why can he not do the commentary in Afrikaans? 90% of the kids there are Afrikaans, so what’s wrong with it?
I guess (internal) conclusion was that if we embrace diversity then we must embrace all of it.
31 Jan 2013, 12:06 pm
@Sheriff-214:
Indeed this is a concern
’ANC is the most racist party’
Updated: 11:10 31-01-2013
Grassroots members of South Africa’s ruling ANC believe that the famed anti-apartheid party is sidelining non-black supporters, according to a potentially politically explosive study published on Wednesday.
Research by the Ahmed Kathrada Foundation — formed by Nelson Mandela’s ex-prison mate and fellow anti-apartheid activist — showed that ANC members who are not black feel left out because of their race.
“Generally speaking, branch members have deep-seated concerns with non-racialism in the ANC and in society more broadly,” said the report posted on the foundation’s website.
One respondent told the researchers that “in the ANC racism is still very strong and it can be proven any day, anywhere.”
Another said “the ANC is more racist than any political party at the moment.”
The ANC “preaches about being non-racist… but is doing the opposite,” added another party member.
The impression that the party promotes the interests of blacks first has seen its support base eaten away in sections of the population, the report concluded.
“Indeed the perception (whether real or imagined) that the ANC is advancing only the interests of Africans has led to loss of electoral support in ‘minority areas’.”
The study was conducted in the country’s largest city and its economic hub, Johannesburg.
Respondents were sampled from South Africa’s four main racial groups — blacks, whites, people of Indian descent and those of mixed race, known colloquially as “coloureds”.
Branch members in the predominately coloured Eldorado Park neighbourhood and those in the highbrow and mainly white suburb of Sandton “are frustrated with the party and feel much anger about the way they are treated,” the report said.
“This has made the role of being an ANC branch member in these areas very challenging, and often thankless.”
The results of the study showed that the party, which prides itself as an example of democracy in Africa, has fewer members of the minority races occupying leadership positions at branch level.
“Many branch members are disillusioned about the manner in which members are awarded senior positions,” said the study, with many believing these are ‘only open to Africans’.”
“This raises significant questions about democracy in the party,” it added.
ANC officials could not immediately be reached for comment.
While acknowledging that race relations have significantly improved since the ANC took to office nearly two decades ago, the study noted that members also feared broader societal trends.
“Branch members feel not enough change has taken place and that racial tensions are impeding social cohesion and concomitant growth and progress in the country.”
Source: AFP Published: 04:50 31-01-2013
31 Jan 2013, 12:07 pm
@shooter-217:
But it always gets your attention; it always motivates you to at least say something.
You cannot not say anything.
31 Jan 2013, 12:13 pm
@Dawn-216:
If your coach subconsciously thinks that some players are superior because of flawed mental models, he will show his hand accordingly
31 Jan 2013, 12:22 pm
@Sheriff-223: moerse
31 Jan 2013, 12:23 pm
@gunther-222:
Do you want me to defend the ANC?
ANC = Nats = ANC = Nats
Both :racist, lie all the time, steal. So they’re on par in my book.
31 Jan 2013, 12:24 pm
IMHO:
This says it all.
JH Kallis (ICC/SA)
1995-2013
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270
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224
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31 Jan 2013, 12:25 pm
@shooter-225:
Ek probeer jou nie opsweep nie. Ek wil net hê jy moet gaan nadink oor hierdie dinge.
Worstel.
31 Jan 2013, 12:27 pm
@Sheriff-224: jou hele pseudo sielkundige ontleding is gebaseer op ‘n gevallestudie van ekstreme regse elemente. natuurlik raas die ouens se koppe.
as ek nou ‘n klomp drivel post oor die nommers bendes en dit ekstrapoleer na die algemene nasie, gaan ek mos ook soos ‘n sot klink.
31 Jan 2013, 12:29 pm
http://www.sport24.co.za/Multimedia/Rugby/SBW-has-nightmares-20130131
Oh dear.
31 Jan 2013, 12:30 pm
@Sheriff-226:
For once somebody agreed with you.
Quit whilst you are behind.
31 Jan 2013, 12:33 pm
@shooter-229:
Ek skryf in Afrikaans vir jou want ek sien jy is heelwat meer ‘assertive’ in jou moeder taal.
Ek stel dit aan jou om my verkeerd te bewys. Skryf in Afrikaans.
Wat jy nie verstaan nie dat dat afrikaners se valse godsdienstige ‘geloof’ die land op ‘n koers gesit het waarvan ons nou nog probeer wegkom. Jy praat nog van ‘n Kaapse kleurling; waar kom jy daaraan?
Die bendes se doen en late is dus nie vergelykbaar met die afrikaner apartheidleierskorps nie. Die bendes se invloed stop in die tronke. Ek vertrou dat jy dit kan insien…
31 Jan 2013, 12:40 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-230: good day Ped Lady.Were you talking about Biff.If your brthday
may it be fabulous
31 Jan 2013, 12:41 pm
@gunther-231:
Just like you, I also always look for a reason to disagree with you.
31 Jan 2013, 12:44 pm
@Sheriff-232: I called you yesterday.
In desperation.You did not come.Gunther has offered to explain it to you.
Said you were getting busy with the tannies at woolworths.
Have a good day.
31 Jan 2013, 12:44 pm
@Sheriff-207: hilarious stuff lawman
31 Jan 2013, 12:45 pm
@ryecatcher-233: Good afternoon good sir. I have a few months to wait before I can celebrate another year on the planet
Smithday, Biffday
His 100th test as captain tommorrow.
31 Jan 2013, 12:47 pm
@Sheriff-221: It’s the nature vs nurture thing with a twist.
You are certainly correct in terms of influences, religious or otherwise.
The specific data is a litte light though.
31 Jan 2013, 12:49 pm
A person, like a sheep, is an independent thinking, logical being.
But as a group, like sheep, they are, well, like sheep.
31 Jan 2013, 12:53 pm
@ryecatcher-235:
Rule no 1: You have read what I say very carefully. Pay attention to brackets, commas and the like.
If you did, you would have noticed that I indicated that I will be back ‘much later’; experienced bloggers like myself have a ‘sweepers routine’ that by now is firmly embedded.
The ‘sweepers routine’ is the act of checking the activity on the blog regularly whether you were active on it or not on a day. At times things slip out, because people think you’re not ‘there’
Some skilled bloggers on this platform will produce some of your posts of say 3 years ago within 3 minutes so be careful what you say, how you say etc
31 Jan 2013, 12:54 pm
@Sheriff-214: ” But our task has to be this: to unmask false
religion
If we do that, problems like lack of game
time in rugby for players of colour will be
no more. Fear and the resultant suspicion
of anyone who does not look like you will
be phase out.”
is this like when Bakkies said he didn’t like Amla because he had a ridiculous “arnenian beard” and his wife wore that face-covering hoodie plus Amla didn’t want to promote booze?
31 Jan 2013, 12:55 pm
@Transformation-236:
I wish it was just funny, but unfortunately there’s some large chunks of truth in there as well
31 Jan 2013, 12:56 pm
@Sheriff-232: ok harmansdrup. eerstens. jy verwys na jouself ook so. is bruinmense vir jou beter? nou toe dan.
glo jy wat jy wil. ek weet baie goed wat is en wat fout was met afrikaners. jy dink jy weet. ek weet egter ook wat alles reg is met hulle.
en ook ‘n baie goeie idee wat fout is met swartmense en bruinmense en indiërs. en waarskynlik ook wat reg is met hulle. jy kom hier met jou ewige kamma platoniese opmerkings en obeservasies.
ek kom nie en teem oor die euwels van tik en watookal nie. ek wil nie ongevraagde kommentaar lewer oor bruinmense nie. maar jy is permanent besig met jou hiper vervelige analises van die ‘afrikaners’. wie het jou gevra? jy het al so baie aanvegbare dinge hier kwyt geraak. baie meer beledigend as wat jy eens vermoed. as dieselfde geskryf was oor ander rassegroepe, sou dit ook hoogs onaanvaarbaar gewees het. oor valse geloof en sulke onderwerpe gaan ek nie verder met jou probeer praat nie. ek het nie ‘n opinie daaroor nie. valse geloof is valse geloof. of dit in mali algeria, usa of waarookal is. stuur vir ons jou ware-geloof manifes. of eerder nie.
ek hoef oor zero te worstel. worstel jy maar voort.
31 Jan 2013, 12:59 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-238:
You mean I should not read too much into this ‘isolated’ incident.
As a relative newcomer here on keo you may not be aware of the fact that I work very hard to be learn more and more about my fellow south africans, or as Boeta Dippenaar says: Sa africans.
A lot of case studies may have been discussed before your time ( I mean it in a good way)
So I’m not so far from the things that I write about.
31 Jan 2013, 13:01 pm
@gunther-222: i agree fully with the article, pluralism is dead in most ANC branches & factionalism is the order if the day. ideas are not vetted on their merit but frim which side they come from ditto the appointments to senior positions in the party.
31 Jan 2013, 13:02 pm
@Transformation-241:
Credit to Bakkies because he did apologise on the day and my sense was that he really meant it.
But yes, that is an excellent example in my view.
I’ve always maintained that keo.co.za is primarily a learning platform. I have learnt so much since posting my 1st one a few years ago.
31 Jan 2013, 13:07 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-230: He will sleep much better after Fransie gives him a pielewapper or two.
@shooter-243: Everyday he’s struggling….
31 Jan 2013, 13:13 pm
@shooter-243:
Ai ou klong, ek wil in Afrikaans antwoord en jy weet ek kan, maar dit spel/tik nie so lekker nie.
Maar ek lees wat jy sê en **** jou hart.
Ek dink jy moet maar verlief neem met my manier van skryf. Ek skryf juis so aangesien rugby mos die terrein van die afrikaner is, so dink hulle.
As ek jou post lees, dan klink jy seergemaak of teleur gesteld.
Ek wil jou aanmoedig om enige positiewe or kritiese opmerking oor enige iets te skryf. Skryf. Jy weet tog seker dat mense dit wat jy sê sal bevraagteken en jy jou saak sal moet stel.
Keo.co.za het ‘n ryke geskiedenis waar mense hulself uitdruk nes hulle wil, maar soos jy weet moet jy ten alle tye jou stellings kan staaf.
In short, my way of writing is to engage with others. Hopefully they can show me something and I’m a better man for it. Now not you nor any other person will deny me that learning opportunity.
31 Jan 2013, 13:15 pm
@Sheriff-244: No, I’m not saying you shouldn’t read too much into this incident at all.
I’m saying that it’s often dangerous to come to any sort of conclusion/s without empirical evidence to support the original hypothesis.
Responsible reporting if you will?
But you’re free to think, do, believe, say what you wish.
@Dilligafrican-247: I’m looking forward to that fight…..bigtime.
31 Jan 2013, 13:25 pm
I wanted to end post 240 with this:
31 Jan 2013, 13:31 pm
@Sheriff-248: allesbehalwe seergemaak ou broe. jy is die een wat ontgogel klink
31 Jan 2013, 13:31 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-249:
The beauty of the blog is then to state how you see it and anyone can then agree or disagree.
People generally don’t like it when others disagree with them. I always welcome it because I value diversity in/of views.
There is nothing more rewarding to me to read (when I do my sweepers routine) a reply from someone 1000s of kms away, articulating a very point of view from mine.
As a learning individual I consider those views and then retain the good.
31 Jan 2013, 13:33 pm
@shooter-251:
Nou goed. Of dan net ‘oneindig teleurgesteld’ dan
31 Jan 2013, 13:34 pm
Later fellas
Shooter, gaan drink ‘n shooter
31 Jan 2013, 13:36 pm
@Sheriff-253: inderdaad…. sien: @gunther-222
31 Jan 2013, 13:42 pm
@Sheriff-252:
You need to get out more…
31 Jan 2013, 14:15 pm
@bryce_in_oz-256:
Mate. Yeah. Thanks. Time constraints.
31 Jan 2013, 14:33 pm
@bryce_in_oz-256:
That’s up to his parole officer.
31 Jan 2013, 15:20 pm
http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/Rasmussen-to-come-clean-20130131
Something to draw ET out of the closet
31 Jan 2013, 15:31 pm
@bryce_in_oz-256:
He don’t get it !!!
31 Jan 2013, 15:33 pm
Samsung S3 or Blackberry 10, people?
31 Jan 2013, 15:43 pm
Something that has impressed me about Ghoenter is that he is becoming more his own man here on keo.
Growth.
31 Jan 2013, 15:46 pm
@Dawn-261:
Without a doubt Samsung and Android…
31 Jan 2013, 15:51 pm
Dawn again has regressed somewhat.
But I always say: Look anybody can lose their way …
31 Jan 2013, 16:00 pm
@Dawn-261: Samsung. By about 20 laps of the pool in ET’s gym…..
Most def a better bet.
31 Jan 2013, 16:14 pm
I see Keo is offering a tutorship in sports writing.
And is looking for writers for keo.
I nominate Dawno.
In other news Keo is also starting a fantasy rugby section.
I don’t know what fantasy rugby is but I hope it doesn’t involve Grantie lying in his jacuzzi and abusing himself whilst dreaming about Smitty.
31 Jan 2013, 16:22 pm
I nominate Dawn-no!
31 Jan 2013, 16:27 pm
I would be considering Gunther, but I’d like to see more all round improvement first.
31 Jan 2013, 16:35 pm
@Sheriff-264:
And your opinion means squat to me
31 Jan 2013, 16:36 pm
@Sheriff-267:
You don’t get a vote Sharif.
Not until you prove you can be let out of your house unsupervised.
31 Jan 2013, 16:38 pm
@Dawn-39: Hi Dawn
31 Jan 2013, 16:45 pm
@ryecatcher-271:
Hi Rye
1 Feb 2013, 04:12 am
@carol-109:
PS Have you gone to see Jack Reacher yet? My son recons it is ok but I think the pretty boy will just spoil it for me.
1 Feb 2013, 08:28 am
@Slartibartfast-273: I fell asleep in the cinema.
1 Feb 2013, 10:29 am
@Slartibartfast-273: @Taahirah-274: I just can’t bring myself to see Tom Cruise who is maybe 5’7 even in heels play a burly rough character who is well over 6 ft tall.
Although Rosamund Pike is worth a watch any day of the week.
Oh the decisions……!
1 Feb 2013, 10:36 am
@stormersboy-275:
I am also one of the Reacher readers who almost got a heart attack when hearing they cast Cruise.
What is worst is how Lee Child defends the decision, and the even changed the title which should have been One Shot to Reacher after a teenager survey found One Shot to violent.
1 Feb 2013, 10:38 am
@stormersboy-275: It’s a disgrace. An artistic disgrace. I have my picture of Reacher in my mind, from years of reading the novels……
And what do they do? Cast a fucking2fthobbit to shatter my dreams.
1 Feb 2013, 10:42 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-277:
Every woman wants to be with him and every man wants to be him…..
1 Feb 2013, 10:46 am
@nortierd-278: Reacher yes…. not Cruise.
1 Feb 2013, 10:53 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-279:
Ha ha, even Katie Holmes and Nicolle Kidman agrees with you there
1 Feb 2013, 10:55 am
I wonder who would have been the best Jack Reacher.
Maybe Tom Selleck if he was 30 years younger.
1 Feb 2013, 10:56 am
Tom Selleck is probably the only man ever to look cool with a moustache.
1 Feb 2013, 10:58 am
@Robzim-281:
From the book description ,a WWE or F or whatever they call themselves lately, wrestler would fit the physical description, but would come up short in the brains department.
Pierre Spies?
1 Feb 2013, 10:58 am
@Robzim-281:
Liam Neeson
Harrison Ford
Fraulein Gunther says Vin Diesel but I think she may have an agenda.
1 Feb 2013, 10:59 am
@Robzim-281:
Rob, if you look at the silhouette in the books it actually looks like Lawrence Dallaglio.
1 Feb 2013, 11:04 am
@gunther-284:
Liam, yes, he is big enough, and after Taken can easily take on an action character and pull it off.
30 years younger Clint Eastwood would have been my choice.
1 Feb 2013, 11:06 am
@nortierd-283:
Seeing that Jack is a master of the headbutt and dirty fighting I was thinking of Vinny Jones .
@gunther-284:
Vin in high heels and without the tattoos might be a fair fit.
1 Feb 2013, 11:09 am
@nortierd-286:
Ja, Dirty Harry would have been brilliant, he just needed a bit of bulk.
1 Feb 2013, 11:11 am
@Robzim-287: Master of the headbutt and dirty fighting…..Dean Greyling, Andrew Hore…both more believable than Cruise I must add.
1 Feb 2013, 11:12 am
@Robzim-287:
Ginny fits the fighting mode for sure.
Maybe Lee Child can have him grabbing someone by the B.alls in his next book
1 Feb 2013, 11:12 am
“I have strong feelings about gun control. If there’s a gun around, I want to be controlling it”.
Clint Eastwood
1 Feb 2013, 11:12 am
@nortierd-290:
Vinny not Ginny
1 Feb 2013, 11:14 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-289:
Bakkies Botha?
Perhaps not, as he only headbutts small okes from behind
1 Feb 2013, 11:15 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-289:
On current players physical description Pierre Spies would fit the bill.
Dallaglio still the model though, and seeing that Child is an Americanized Brit, maybe he had him in mind, who knows?
1 Feb 2013, 11:26 am
@Robzim-293: @nortierd-294: Lemme tell you who I would have had a Reacher…’damaged goods’ Christian Bale….bulked up once more to wha the was in the 1st of the Nolan Dark Knight trilogy….
Edgy, violent and dark…that’s Reacher.
(Have to say though……another Batman reference, Tom Hardy IS the ultimate action man, legit fight scenes and bulk etc etc….and the man can act, really act)
1 Feb 2013, 11:30 am
If you think of “Bankable” actors out there a guy like Hugh Jackman (think Wolverine) may fit the bill, he is really tall too, maybe a Gerard Butler (a-la 300) or a Russel Crowe (circa Gladiator) may have fit too.
My choice would be Joe Manganiello
He’s rugged enough and at 1.95m certainly tall enough.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0542133/bio
1 Feb 2013, 11:30 am
@nortierd-294: If I had to select someone from the blog…..I’m going with HG or Skop…..
1 Feb 2013, 11:30 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-295:
6 foot 5 inches, 220 to 250 pounds
Not many actors fit the bill
1 Feb 2013, 11:31 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-295: Have you seen Lawless yet?
Worth a watch, in spite of Shia le Douche being in it. On the plus side he gets the stuffing beaten out of him which was a bonus
1 Feb 2013, 11:31 am
THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!
1 Feb 2013, 11:33 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-297:
he must then change his nic to “Skopdiebadguysseknieaf”
1 Feb 2013, 11:35 am
@nortierd-298: Skop is our man….. What he lacks in height, his mouth more than compensates.
@stormersboy-299: No, not yet. I can’t handle Shia….Transformer babyfucker. So I might enjoy it simply for that scene….
1 Feb 2013, 11:37 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-302: Tom Hardy is in it. The fight scenes are quite grim. But I though it was an excellent movie.
Check it out, you won’t be disappointed.
1 Feb 2013, 11:40 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-302:
Skop aka ******* Reacher, has a nice ring to it
1 Feb 2013, 11:40 am
@nortierd-304:
Jack.off Reacher
The censor police is out in full swing today
1 Feb 2013, 11:46 am
@stormersboy-303: Tom Hardy is a rock star IMHO. Absoutely beievable in every role I have seen him play.
@nortierd-304:
1 Feb 2013, 11:48 am
@nortierd-305: Skop would be better off playing the Brad Pitt Character in twelve m onkeys. Totally off the wall.
1 Feb 2013, 11:49 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-306: Yes my wife loved him in “this means war”.
1 Feb 2013, 11:49 am
@stormersboy-307:
I see him as the chap in the cell next to Haniball Lecter in Silence of the Lambs.
The one who throws the nasty at poor Clarice.
1 Feb 2013, 11:51 am
Ons praat lekker stront, he is going to come onto this thread at some stage and there will be hell to pay.
We will feel his wrath
1 Feb 2013, 11:57 am
@stormersboy-307:
Fuckadilly is more Joe Pesci in Goodfellas.
1 Feb 2013, 12:02 pm
I see Skoppie more as Whee Man in Jackasss
1 Feb 2013, 12:03 pm
@gunther-311:
1 Feb 2013, 12:05 pm
@gunther-311:
Billy Connelly in The Man Who Sued God
1 Feb 2013, 12:06 pm
@Mr Black-312:
He’s Johhny Knoxville dressed up as that grandpa with his balls hanging out of his gym shorts.
1 Feb 2013, 12:07 pm
@nortierd-314: Ja when he gets here it will be Billy Connelly in The Boondock Saints
1 Feb 2013, 12:08 pm
@nortierd-313:
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it’s me, I’m a little fucked up maybe, but I’m funny how, I mean funny like I’m a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I’m here to ******’ amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
1 Feb 2013, 12:08 pm
@stormersboy-316:
Pretty much sums it up
He will arrive with all guns blazing
1 Feb 2013, 12:09 pm
@gunther-317:
Relax and go shine some ******* shoes
1 Feb 2013, 12:11 pm
@gunther-317: Great performance in a great movie.
One of the best gangster scenes ever,
1 Feb 2013, 12:18 pm
@gunther-315: Reminds me of that dog in Van Wilder with the huge balls
1 Feb 2013, 12:22 pm
@Mr Black-321:
Monty Python’s Life of Brian
Biggus dickus
1 Feb 2013, 12:30 pm
@nortierd-310: We should see Skop ‘dishing out the pain wrath’ as an audition.
@stormersboy-316: One of my all time best movies….. 1st Tattoos I got as well, Veritas and Aequitas.
“And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command. We shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti.”
1 Feb 2013, 12:35 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-323: Great movie. One of the best “shoot ‘em up” movies made.
Love the soundtrack too by The Dropkick Murphy’s. Which also happens to be one of the coolest band names ever.
1 Feb 2013, 12:42 pm
@stormersboy-324: The Dropkick Murphy’s also did some of the music for one of my OTHER best best best movies ever…. The Departed. ‘I’m Shipping up to Boston’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-64CaD8GXw
1 Feb 2013, 12:50 pm
Another fave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzF0hHb7xMc&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CoItyKPvUE2s3yWoVTC1DB
1 Feb 2013, 12:51 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-325: Yes I have that song on my Ipod. Great gym song.
1 Feb 2013, 12:54 pm
Gaaaap
1 Feb 2013, 13:06 pm
Skop is Bad Boy Bubby.
1 Feb 2013, 13:22 pm
RIP Louis Luyt.
1 Feb 2013, 13:30 pm
@Mr Black-330: Ditto. And how sad for him, that his beloved union was in such disarray at the time of his passing. (Look the dude was a bit of a vark at the best of times, but his love for ‘Transvaal/Lions rugby’ was something special)
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