Serfontein to start against Lions
30 Jan 2013
Baby Boks centre Jan Serfontein has been included in the Bulls’ starting side for Saturday’s Gauteng Cup match against the Lions.
Serfontein will partner new Bulls recruit Lionel Mapoe in the midfield. Coach Frans Ludeke has also included two more former Lions in the pack, with Grant Hattingh and Paul Willemse starting in the second row.
Handre Pollard, another promising player who featured for the Baby Boks in the successful 2012 Junior World Championship campaign, is on the bench.
Bulls – 15 Jurgen Visser, 14 Travis Ismael, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Jan Serfontein, 11 Sampie Mastriet, 10 Louis Fouche, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Arno Botha, 7 Jean Cook, 6 Deon Stegmann (c), 5 Grant Hattingh, 4 Paul Willemse, 3 Frik Kirsten, 2 Willie Wepener, 1 Juan Schoeman.
Subs: 16 Bongo Mbonambi, 17 Hencus van Wyk, 18 Wiaan Liebenberg, 19 Cornell Hess, 20 Ruan Snyman, 21 Handre Pollard, 22 Ulrich Beyers, 23 Jacques du Plessis.
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31 Jan 2013, 10:15 am
@skopdiekan-130: Tos man!
31 Jan 2013, 10:15 am
@skopdiekan-149:
I thought you were going?
Take your babytalk with you.
31 Jan 2013, 10:15 am
@Stawm-147: pity it’s true too bad you never get the benefit of finding out the fact of it
31 Jan 2013, 10:16 am
@gunther-148: He irritates the beejesusmaryandjosephanddonkey out of me. He went West Indian Island hopping like a greedyfckwit. All he saw was $$$$$ at the time. (There was huge cash floating around if I recall correctly….)
I guess Supersport snapped him back out of the ‘Bargain Box’?
31 Jan 2013, 10:16 am
@skopdiekan-153:
You should start a religion.
31 Jan 2013, 10:17 am
@gunther-152: Cherio you stupid colonic Skittle sticks sucking chump
31 Jan 2013, 10:17 am
@Stawm-155: Ok, snorting coffee out of my nostrils…..
31 Jan 2013, 10:18 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-142: Treu legend of the game. One, who most will only realise after he departs how great a cricketer this guy really is.
Hats off to the great man. He deserves it.
31 Jan 2013, 10:18 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-154:
He was Stanford’s cricket advisor based in Miami and then when it went bang he came back cap in hand.
I’m sure my pal Imtiaz hired him back at half price.
31 Jan 2013, 10:18 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-157:
Pic, or it didnt happen!
31 Jan 2013, 10:20 am
@Stawm-155: you reckon that’s good business better than this religious delusion called rugby or this other inane idiocy called Skittle sticks?
31 Jan 2013, 10:20 am
In a “moneyball” senario…..to win the supercomp you need a flyhalf that will average 18 points a game approx. in my opinion.
and in the big games….probably 20-24 points a game if it is a high scoring affair.
If it is a low scoring game, your flyhalf needs to have the boot to keep you in the right part of the field.
Historically when you look at past winners.. Mehrtens,Spencer,Larkham(the exception), Carter,Hougaard, Cooper, Morne….and the new kiwi kid.
They all did this.
In my opinion, only Jantijies,Goosen and Lambie have this potential from what I have seen. Apparently Pollard, who I have not seen and may well just be hype.
M.Steyn and Hougaard are the only ones to have proven it in SA before.
For all their popularity, Butch and Lem weren’t exactly metronomic at getting points on the board albeit very strong in other aspects of the game. Both probably saved by monty and joubert on occassion. It is particularly hypothetical but would the sharks have won back in 1998 if they had a different sort of flyhalf?(Robbed against the crusaders in my opinion) Or even in 2007 if butch had taken that conversion?
Stransky still possibly the most underrated flyhalf we had in the modernish era.
31 Jan 2013, 10:20 am
@gunther-159: That’s it. He was based in Miama, and regularly flitted around the West Indies….the life
Defo in the bargain bin.
@Stawm-160: I have the burning nostris and tears of coffee trailing down my cheeks.
31 Jan 2013, 10:21 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-154: Saw some old footage of him in his playing day. Fark that mullet was out of control!!! I reckon he is Poen from the ‘Kraagkroon Chronicles’
31 Jan 2013, 10:25 am
@Stawm-155:
Indeed.
Even David Icke is terrified of him.
I would live to see the poisonous little dwarf holed up in a farmhouse in the Karoo with the throwing environmentally friendly Molotov cocktails at the army.
31 Jan 2013, 10:25 am
@skopdiekan-161:
I reckon you certainly have the skills to bedazzle a crowd of people needing direction. The more they cant understand you, the more they will believe you.
31 Jan 2013, 10:26 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-158:
Smitty maywell yet go down as the greatest opener of the modern age yet. Hayden a slightly higher average at the minute but not sure if smith has more runs yet or more hundreds?
Those are the 2 in my opinion but to be fair Hayden was dropped out of sight for a few seasons after the proteas toured in 1994 so as a result his average is somewhat hidden. Smth has played through big dips in form and still averages just under 50. For an opener in this day and age that is phenominal.
Ironically, both very suspect techniques. Smith plays naturally with a lot of bottom hand and hayden didn’t move his feet for squat. Very graeme pollock like, it is all about balance with a great eye for the ball.
31 Jan 2013, 10:28 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-163:
You can thank me for your clear sinuses later!
31 Jan 2013, 10:29 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-164: Ok, more coffee coming out of my nostrils. I feel like a frothing coffee machine at the fuckingMuggandbean.
31 Jan 2013, 10:31 am
@gunther-165:
I think his verbal insults would do more damage than his freshly squeezed molotov cocktails!
31 Jan 2013, 10:33 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-162:
Why does it have to be the flyhalf? I reckon that if more players developed their goal kicking skills they’d be more attractive to a coach, as it would provide him with more tactical selection options. Without Mortlock or Giteau to provide a kicking option, I doubt whether Larkham would have made the team at 10.
31 Jan 2013, 10:35 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-167: Haydn and Sehwag best openers of the 2000′s
31 Jan 2013, 10:35 am
http://www.sport24.co.za/Multimedia/Extreme-Sport/Biggest-wave-ever-20130130
I love the water just as much as the next coastal person…..and I’ve been reckless and stupid in the ocean at times, and fortunately lived to regret my stupidity and gain more and more respect for the goddess (or god) who rules the waters of the world.
But this?
This is ET level fuckingretardation.
31 Jan 2013, 10:39 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-173: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X7d9hMVJWQ
Or that…… nee man die mense is befokverby.
31 Jan 2013, 10:40 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-167: His technique still baffles me sometimes. Given the way he sets up he has to have a great eye otherwise he would be buggered. The other problem with that is that if he is off the boil just a bit he is stuffed completely.
31 Jan 2013, 10:41 am
lag my gat af
Zille: I did not inhale Gupta money
To write about Zuma and Zille, those
politicians from the bottom of the
alphabetical bucket, you have to start in
Syria. There’s terrible footage today, on
YouTube and its lesser cousin, television, of
more than 100 corpses dumped in a concrete
watercourse in Aleppo, Syria. Rows and rows
of them, mostly young men, their hands tied
behind their backs. It appears they’ve all
been shot in the head. There’s blood seeping
from their wounds, mixing with the water left
as the river receded and exposed the horror.
Who killed these people? The Syrian regime
blames “terrorist gangs”. Rebel groups blame
the Syrian government. The dead people
have no opinion on the matter. Who is telling
the truth? It doesn’t really matter. What
matters is who Syrians will choose to believe.
In South Africa, we have the Democratic
Alliance (DA) and the ANC engaged in a spat
about sucking at the Guptas’ teat. Which little
piggie got more milk? It doesn’t matter. The
only truth is that the teat is always,
inevitably, attached to the sow.
So now we have Helen Zille and the New Age
bitchslapping one another. Like a teenager
whose BFF has dissed him or her by not
coming to the birthday party, the New Age is
making hysterical accusations about betrayal
and hypocrisy. “Helen told me she wasn’t
coming to my party because I was friends
with Telkom, but I caught her kissing Telkom
behind the garden shed!”That’s essentially
what the story of Zille cancelling her New Age
breakfast appearance is about. And “Helen
made friends with my boyfriend behind my
back!” could have been the headline for the
New Age’s story about the DA getting funding
from a Gupta employee.
lol
31 Jan 2013, 10:41 am
@Dilligafrican-172:
Sewag possibly. But I would still have smith opening for me given the choice.
31 Jan 2013, 10:42 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-169: Snoto Late…..
31 Jan 2013, 10:43 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-178: And the coffee machine that is my nose, just bubbles on
31 Jan 2013, 10:44 am
@Dilligafrican-172: Sewag a great player but never able to adapt to the situation at hand which makes him a bit of a liability but when gets cracking it truly is awesome to watch.
31 Jan 2013, 10:45 am
Gents and lady, month end is upon me and I have got to make the figures balance. Have a great one. Chat again
31 Jan 2013, 10:47 am
@David-171:
I suppose it doesn’t and hasn’t on occassions with Mortlock,Montgomry,Lacroix,Eales,etc all having done goal kicking duties.
But logically it should be the players who touch the ball the most and that is generally your 9 and 10. given that they are the ones who can influence the game the most. And outside of john robbie and I think I saw kockott as well, the 9 is not in a position to drop goals when the need arises. So 10 will still remian the best position to have your “points accumulator” in.
31 Jan 2013, 10:49 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-180:
well exactly…he is a hacker. Abit like Gale really. Those okes can’t build an innings they just smash them selves to a score sometimes.
Also the major fault with gibbs in his time and the reason he never became a better player.
31 Jan 2013, 10:49 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-181:
yeah…good luck with that.
31 Jan 2013, 10:50 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-179:
You having to much coffee it seems ruck
31 Jan 2013, 10:53 am
more
There’s a bizarre moment in Zille’s weekly
letter on the DA website. Describing how she
didn’t get paid BY the Guptas, but AT the
Guptas’ (“I did not inhale the Guptas’
money”, if you will), she writes: “I and my
colleague Ian Davidson duly went to the
Guptas’ home, ate some of the most delicious
food I have ever eaten, and received the
cheque for R200 000 from the individual who
had made the pledge.”
Really? You’re complimenting the Guptas on
the gravy in their trough? Perhaps this
absurd description is designed to make us
believe that this was an ordinary evening,
rather than a furtive liaison. Alas, it
succeeds. The economy of corruption in
South African politics is indeed mundane and
ordinary. Inevitably, it will lead to a riverbed
with scattered bodies, or the side of a hill in
Marikana, and nobody to blame but
ourselves.
31 Jan 2013, 10:54 am
Boeremag accused rejects parents
Pretoria – One of the Boeremag treason accused on Wednesday rejected his parents’ declarations of undying love.
Their utterances were “dishonest” and “conditional”, self-confessed Boeremag bomber Kobus Pretorius told the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria. He said he had never experienced sincere love from his father and co-accused Dr Lets Pretorius, or from his mother Minnie.
Piet Pistorius, for Dr Pretorius, put it to him that his parents loved him unconditionally and would slaughter the proverbial fattened calf and have a feast when he returned home one day.
He replied that he had stopped reading their letters because he was tired of them stabbing him in the back and bad-mouthing his “new parents” (his religious advisor Sonja Jordaan and her husband). Pistorius put it to him that his background painted a picture of love, compassion and strong family ties.
Pretorius jnr replied: “Their love was never the love for a child, but the love for a possession. They want their possession back. If we were raised so well, why did three intelligent young men become involved in the Boeremag case?”
As a trained engineer, Pretorius admitted he was an intelligent man who could think for himself, but insisted he was not raised to think critically.
“Madness is logical reasoning from the wrong premise. I used my intelligence from the wrong premise, which was laid by Mr and Mrs Pretorius,” he said.
He felt aggrieved that his father had not only accused him of being schizophrenic, but had stated as a fact that he was schizophrenic, which was not true.
He conceded drifting from one religious adviser to the next in jail, but said it was because he was searching for sincerity, which he had found for the first time in Mrs Jordaan.
Emotional bond
On Tuesday, Pretoria told the court his parents had “raped his soul” and that he had never had an emotional bond with them during his childhood years.
Pretorius distanced himself from what he described as his family’s extreme political and religious beliefs.
He referred to his father and brothers, Johan and Wilhelm, by their numbers as accused, and to his mother as “Mrs Pretorius” throughout his evidence.
The 20 Boeremag accused, including his father and brothers, had all been convicted of high treason resulting from a far right-wing plot to violently overthrow the African National Congress-led government.
Pretorius handed a poem titled “Rape” to the court, in which he compared being raised by his parents to a young girl being raped by a man.
He found it upsetting when a psychiatrist later told him his description of rape was accurate, as it made him realise what trauma he had been put through as a child, and as an adult, until the age of 37.
According to Pretorius, his father was strict and often spanked him, to such an extent that he was scared of male teachers throughout his school years.
In primary school, he was chosen to play in the Craven week rugby, but withdrew at his father’s urging because black children were also playing.
According to Pretorius, he initially regarded his father as his hero and could not function without him. He started realising only after several years in jail that his father was not the man he thought he was, and that he had to “unplug” himself from the hold his father had over him.
The final rift started when he told his father he did not want to stay with the family if he was granted bail, because his ideology, value system and religion differed from theirs.”I grew up with the idea of white superiority, but I no longer feel that way,” he said. After the hearing on Tuesday, Dr Pretorius handed a poem to journalists in which he described his pain and sorrow about his son.
31 Jan 2013, 10:55 am
@Transformation-176:
There’s only one sow in SA and it fat pig Zoomer.
He’s had his greasy snout in the trough for so long he can physically move away.
#baconbomb
31 Jan 2013, 11:00 am
@Mr Black-185: Only 1 mug, but I kept snorting it out at these comments.
31 Jan 2013, 11:01 am
@Brigadier Van Zyl-177:
Alistair Cook is rapidly proving his status as an opener, and on current form I’d prefer him over Smittie.
31 Jan 2013, 11:02 am
@Sheriff-187: “He conceded drifting from one religious adviser to the next in jail, but said it was because he was searching for sincerity, which he had found for the first time in Mrs Jordaan.”
This fella needs some scripture from the books of ET and Skop….
31 Jan 2013, 11:04 am
@David-190:
Let’s look at him over 100 tests and then decide.
The point he has making that is that it is quite some achievement to ever age 49 over 100 tests as an opener.
31 Jan 2013, 11:04 am
@David-190:
True, Cook is playing well lately but let us see how he goes against the ozzies.
I have afeeling he will get in trouble.
One thing is for sure, smitty has the toughest jaw since steve waugh in my opinion.
31 Jan 2013, 11:06 am
@David-190:
it will be interesting to see how he goes long term with the captaincy.
For now it’s seems to work for him he’s having a purple patch.
31 Jan 2013, 11:07 am
@gunther-192:
Wrong post sorry.
31 Jan 2013, 11:09 am
In test cricket the “rule’ when judging batsmen is usually:
Average above 55- Exceptional
50-55- Very good
45-50- Good
<45— the rest.
Therefore, Hayden/Schewag was/is very good and Smith/Cook is good. Kallis and Sangakarra are exceptional. Gayle cannot even be compared as his average is low 40's.
31 Jan 2013, 11:16 am
@Robzim-196:
Less than a run divides Smith and Sehwag in the average stakes.
Although Smith has 3 more centuries.
Honours even I’d say.
Take into consideration that if you assume a player plays half his games at home South Africa has amongst the most challenging pitches in the world.
India does not.
31 Jan 2013, 11:18 am
@gunther-197:
ja, and india usually play bangledesh 15 times a year.
31 Jan 2013, 11:19 am
same as mulitheran stats being compared to warne.
sri lanka played bangledesh umteen times a year.
31 Jan 2013, 11:20 am
My Chris always gets the short end of the stick
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