Bok Juan Smith retires
12 Feb 2013
Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’ll remember him for more than just being a great rugby player.
Smith quit the game today because he accepted his Achilles would continue to restrict his ability to deliver what his heart desired. He was honest with himself, which is the character that typified his time within rugby.
He has for me always been the unsung heroes of Bok rugby and was among the players of the tournament.
His desire to contribute to a successful Rugby World Cup challenge forced an early return to the field in 2011 but all it did was ensure he would not play at the highest level again.
There will be no bitterness from Smith. There will be no self pity. It is not his style.
Former Bok legend Andre Venter used to call him ‘Die Yster’; the man of steel.
Bob Skinstad, taking the DJ microphone in Tobby Joe’s in Port Elizabeth in 2003, told people that the Boks were in the VIP area and if there was only one player they should meet that night it was a player called Juan Smith.
‘This guy said Skinstad will become one of the greats of Bok rugby.’
Smith ruptured his Achilles in the opening round of the 2011 Super Rugby season.
He had four operations in the last 18 months to make it back and even though he played two of the Cheetahs Super Rugby pre-season games he said he knew the Achilles was too vulnerable to take the demands of professional rugby.
He told Die Volksblad Newspaper: ‘Were it not for the fans and my family, then I probably would have made the decision to retire much earlier. It was the fans who gave me the courage to – after several disappointing operations – attempt to make a comeback to the rugby field this year.
‘I appreciate all the support I received through the years from my family, Bok- and especially Free State supporters.’
He played 69 Tests and won the Tri Nations, the World Cup and the British and Irish Lions series.
By Mark Keohane
269 Comments
11 Feb 2013, 20:49 pm
Great player, sad it had to end this way. Has the respect of all South African rugby players and supporters. Well most at least.
11 Feb 2013, 20:49 pm
RT @keocoza: Bok Juan Smith quits : Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’l… http://t.c …
11 Feb 2013, 20:51 pm
RT @keocoza: Bok Juan Smith quits : Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’l… http://t.c …
11 Feb 2013, 20:52 pm
RT @keocoza: Bok Juan Smith quits : Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’l… http://t.c …
11 Feb 2013, 20:54 pm
Juan Smith = Legend.
He will go down as one of the hard men of SA rugby and particularly Bok rugby.
It bears testimony to the fact that he tried to come back for one last hurrah. His heart was in it to the very end.
Go well, ou grote.
11 Feb 2013, 20:56 pm
He was a true great – the best player of RWC 2007.
11 Feb 2013, 21:02 pm
Big loss for the Cheetahs as well. We’ve got used to life without him over the last 2 seasons but I was so looking forward to his return this season. Well bleak now. Bok and Cheetahs legend.
11 Feb 2013, 21:10 pm
Dit mag dalk nie veel vir hom beteken nie, maar hy het my respek.
11 Feb 2013, 21:20 pm
RT @keocoza: Bok Juan Smith quits : Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’l… http://t.c …
11 Feb 2013, 21:25 pm
So looked 4wd to him playing again… I wish you strongs, goodluck. Succes in your future mate
11 Feb 2013, 21:54 pm
Sad but it was expected. Best wishes for him whatever career he chooses to pursue.
11 Feb 2013, 21:59 pm
Schalla next?
11 Feb 2013, 22:07 pm
Juan Smith once said ” Vir die Leeus sal ek noooit speel nie, ek verloor eerder in n Cheetahs span maar om vir die leeus te verloor is net plein k@k”. Lol
11 Feb 2013, 22:09 pm
RT @keocoza: Bok Juan Smith quits : Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’l… http://t.c …
11 Feb 2013, 22:10 pm
That’s a real shame. Hope he finds success in another vocation.
11 Feb 2013, 22:15 pm
@Slappes-13: hahahaha! That’s a good one!
11 Feb 2013, 22:19 pm
Juan’s retirement is a massive loss,not only for Cheetahs rugby ,but for Springbok rugby as well.One of my favourite Bok players ever.All of the best to him in his future endeavours ,whatever that may be.
11 Feb 2013, 22:22 pm
Rugby is for young bones and young bodies and young braves the most auspicious years of any rugby player but especially in the ferocious trenches of uncompromising attrition of loose forward play is between the ages of 21 and 26. Once the bone crunching attrition has had its effect over a series of seasons the spirit may still be willing but by then the knitting of the bones and sinews become bleak.
11 Feb 2013, 22:25 pm
yep great player
11 Feb 2013, 22:25 pm
Sheesh, that’s a pity. I didn’t see the Cheetahs’ pre season games but heard he turned them around when he came on. It’s sad to see someone retire not on their own terms but, hey, he had a good long successful career. As a kiwi, he was always one of the most respected opposition players
11 Feb 2013, 22:34 pm
Fantastic player. Very sad to see him go. Sterkte, Smirre.
11 Feb 2013, 23:06 pm
keo: have you linked your twitter account to the blog now, what’s with all these retweets from strange nics?
11 Feb 2013, 23:18 pm
Haven’t seen any worthy replacement so far to those Magnificent Four backrowers from the Free State:
Kruger, Venter, Erasmus and Smith
Have you?
11 Feb 2013, 23:19 pm
Bakkies, where are you? Thought you might like this
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/521862_528080140569384_63899439_n.jpg
11 Feb 2013, 23:29 pm
Keo, do you feel up to doing a piece on the late and great Jan Ellis while you are at it? There too was a truly harder- than- steel (and once a record holding) Springbok, who sadly passed away a few days ago (8 Feb 2013).
12 Feb 2013, 00:27 am
@Hondo-23:
During the late seventies/early eighties they had a loose forward who was just as good if not better than the 4 you mentioned. Remember Theuns Stoffberg? He also later played for the Bulls and ended up playing for WP but he is originally from the Free State.
12 Feb 2013, 00:35 am
@cyberscamp-25:
He was one of the best SA opensiders ever… even better than Rob Louw….biggest mistake he made was that he did not retire at his peak and had to play against the magnificent Lions of 74 when he was already past his best…. and as a result the great Fergus Slattery then made mincemeat of him.
12 Feb 2013, 01:11 am
@Robzim-27:
I saw him at Ellis Park Vs England, he was the captain on that test.
The Poms weren’t exactly a world beaters then and the old scoring system made the result pretty acceptable.
Softberg was talented and skillful, I didn’t know he played for OFS though
12 Feb 2013, 01:42 am
got laughed at on this blog when I suggested he would not be the same player, exactly like Ali Williams who returned half the player he was.
I guess he who laughs last huh?
commiserations Juan, was a pleasure watching you play.and Bok rugby is poorer for your exit. they need more players of your stature
Kia kaha
12 Feb 2013, 01:45 am
everyone laughs at you Pops. you are a bit of a joke hey.
12 Feb 2013, 02:12 am
yep. just like everyone laughs at bokke rugby
12 Feb 2013, 02:15 am
7 wins from 12 and you guys think you’re the best
bwahahaha. delusional. it’s hysterically funny how you guys continue to think you’re the best when you couldn’t even beat Argentine in Argentina , needing a chargedown to salvage a draw?
hahahahahaha. classically funny
12 Feb 2013, 02:20 am
stop trying to deflect the attention away from yourself Pops.
we’re laughing at you now.
12 Feb 2013, 02:22 am
the English are laughing at you and the All Blacks right now Pops.
they find 38 – 21 very funny.
12 Feb 2013, 02:24 am
@Liewe Luiperd-33: laugh away wooden spoon, doesnt worry me in the slightest..
I’ll continue to laugh at Bok rugby, how it lurches from mediocrity to mediocrity
it really is comical, especially the excuses espoused by many of her “supporters”
12 Feb 2013, 02:25 am
@Liewe Luiperd-34: onje win in 10 years, real funny
one loss in 21 games, you only ever wish your team could come close to achieving something like that, but they cant as you well know
lol clinging to Engs win, is that because your team cant beat ours? what a laugh indeed..
12 Feb 2013, 02:27 am
no penalties against your side for 60 minutes
90000 neanderthals baying for blood from the stands
leading 10-nil at one stage
and you lost 32-16?
you had 32 points scored to your 6, at ALTITUDE?
hahahahahahahaha
12 Feb 2013, 02:28 am
you’re such a comedian Pops.
I laughed when the Bokke 7s smashed your team this last weekend.
very hard, Pops.
12 Feb 2013, 02:29 am
keep deflecting Pops.
you’re a tortured soul.
you have gross inadequacy issues.
12 Feb 2013, 02:30 am
@Liewe Luiperd-38: now youve moved to the 7s?
lol
gees, how many series have you won? how many have we won?
thanks again for proving my point about Bok rugby being mediocre..
hahahahahahaha
12 Feb 2013, 02:31 am
are you going to publicly cry for us again Pops?
12 Feb 2013, 02:32 am
@Liewe Luiperd-39: so moved from laughing at me to laughing at our first loss to Eng in a decade to clinging to your sevens victory?
and Im the one with inadequacy issues?
12 Feb 2013, 02:32 am
when is your next breakdown due Pops?
didn’t you swear never to come back to keo because of the effect it was having on your personal life Pops?
12 Feb 2013, 02:33 am
@Liewe Luiperd-41: yep, with laughter when i see the Sharks choke yet again, what is it, 5 times now?
12 Feb 2013, 02:34 am
nice attempt at deflection again Pops.
you try to brush it off with a laughing smiley.
it is just covering up those paper thin cracks Pops of yours, Pops.
12 Feb 2013, 02:34 am
@Liewe Luiperd-43: now the breakdown jokes, getting desperate wooden spoon
cant do it on a rugby comparison level so now getting personal?
hahahahaha
inadequate indeed…
12 Feb 2013, 02:35 am
seriously Pops why do you let keo get to you so much?
can’t you separate your online life from the real world?
do you have a life outside of keo Pops?
12 Feb 2013, 02:36 am
keep to the personal stuff, like that isnt a deflection from the rugby truths Ive highlighted for you..
I understand wooden spoon, you feel inadequate when having to compare our countries rugby stats, and who can blame you really
your side have been emasculated the last 3 years havent they?
1 win in 8 games against us
2 or is it 3 games against the Aussies in 10 attempts
no wonder the conspiracy angle gets thrown around
you guys are weak and your rugby is a dinosaur that needs to be lanced..
12 Feb 2013, 02:37 am
shame poor Pops, perhaps I better lay off him.
we all know he can be a little sensitive at the best of times.
enjoy your day Pops. try to achieve something positive today, ok Pops?
12 Feb 2013, 02:38 am
cmon wooden spoon, stick to rugby
whats that? you dont want to because you would have to concede that your team is uber k@K
ok then mr inadequate..
12 Feb 2013, 02:39 am
hehe I see you persist with wooden spoon. that is funny. nice try Pops.
sometimes Pops you just need someone to bring you back down to earth.
couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
hope you achieve something today Pops, try not to spend all your time on keo.
12 Feb 2013, 02:40 am
call me wooden spoon all you like Pops, if it makes you feel better. i think you need things to make yourself feel better often, don’t you Pops?
12 Feb 2013, 02:41 am
Ive already achieved something to day
Ive highlighted how INADeQUATE you feel about your rugby
a truth youve tried to deflect, in the last 10 or so posts..
says it all, and Im still laughing at you..
12 Feb 2013, 02:42 am
not at all Liewe, I feel great
the rugby stats are just a bonus..
how do you feel knowing a little country in the pacific OWNs your big tough neanderthals?
consistently?
12 Feb 2013, 02:43 am
sure Pops. you achieved something today. well done Pops. you deserve a sweetie.
12 Feb 2013, 02:45 am
you like giving guys sweeties do you Liewe?
is that why you wont talk about rugby? because the emasculation of it suits your preferences?
12 Feb 2013, 02:47 am
and do you like taking sweeties from big men, Pops?
12 Feb 2013, 02:48 am
hahahahaha pathetic Liewe, keep clutching mate… youve made yourself look real inadequate on this thread..
makes for funny reading
12 Feb 2013, 02:50 am
that was an unusual reaction to the question Pops.
so which type of sweetie do you prefer Pops?
12 Feb 2013, 02:53 am
well Pops, I hope you enjoyed your time on my couch.
can I recommend you see someone full time?
as much as it has been a pleasure, Pops, it is my day off today so I will bid you farewell.
i am heading down to the beach after i paint the picket fence.
farewell and good luck making it through today.
12 Feb 2013, 02:54 am
@Liewe Luiperd-59:
that hole youve placed yourself in is getting deeper and deeper Liewe
just what is the “usual” reaction when you offer other men sweets?
is that why you do it online now, to save the poesklaps?
12 Feb 2013, 03:11 am
You two should get a room the stink of boy lust pervades the air when you get together.
I’ll even buy the peach flavoured lube for the two of you but please in the name of all that is sacred take your lovers tiff to rugbyheaven.***
12 Feb 2013, 04:19 am
Pity but thanks for all the memories Juan, you will be missed.
12 Feb 2013, 04:27 am
Thanks for your oustanding contribution to SA rugby Juan. You were one of the greats in my book, as a man and as a player. You deserve all the accolades that will surely come your way. I wish you all the success for your post rugby career.
12 Feb 2013, 04:27 am
Some more info on the achievements of the great man…
South Africa u21 World Cup: 2002
Free State Cheetahs Currie Cup: 2005
South Africa World Cup: 2007
Tri-Nations: 2009
So outside of a Super title he has won everything. Was surprised to see his CC caps for the Cheetahs were a mere 18 games.
12 Feb 2013, 05:37 am
Juan = World class flanker, one of the best
Great loss to Cheetahs, Bokke & rugby fans worldwide
{Hat Tip}
12 Feb 2013, 05:55 am
tough luck Juan
Thanks for all you did for Springbok rugby.
You are a humble legend of Springbok rugby,and respected worldwide.
Good luck on your future.
12 Feb 2013, 06:02 am
@Fern-67:
Hi Fern….how you been?
12 Feb 2013, 06:44 am
thanks you for your contribution to SA rugby, Juan
you have given us some great memories and wonderful times.
always a legend.
12 Feb 2013, 06:58 am
@gonzo-24:
hahahaha
thanks Gonzo
12 Feb 2013, 07:11 am
Andre Venter, Juan Smith, Ruben Kruger……
Poster boys? Nada
Highlights in die hare? Nada
Controversial? Nada
So hard soos klip op die rugbyveld? Verseker.
Respek.
12 Feb 2013, 07:14 am
@Staal-71:
Hoe gaan dit Oom?
@Te Rangatira-68:
Well thanks,just hectically busy at work with lots of new projects.
12 Feb 2013, 07:22 am
@Fern-72: Goed dankie Fern. Goed om te sien jy is nog hier. Jy hou die mense seker nog in toom hier as hul handuit raak?
12 Feb 2013, 07:25 am
@Staal-73:
Ek probeer.
Het jytans projekte wat loop?
G od het net land vir 1 dag gemaak en daai opinie van n slegte stuk grond is besig om spoed teverloor.
12 Feb 2013, 07:26 am
Juan Smith…..legend amongst legends. Never given the credit he so deserved for much of his Bok career. The credit for some reason always went to the ‘flashier, silkier and white boot wearing’ brigade. Oh he was always given a few words here and there, and no one doubted his value….but I guess for the most of it Juan wasn’t ‘glamorous’ enough for the PR wagon in SA.
2007 – He was my man of the WC tournie, without a doubt.
As a fan my only regret is not seeing Juan captain the Boks for an extended run, he could have been something even more special in that role.
Very sad to hear this, but I feel privileged to have watched him play over the years, and even more privileged to have been in front of the tv on my couch for his last 30 minutes of rugby in the Cheetahs/Stormers warm up. The way he rallied his troops in that game, a few brilliant offloads and his bulldozer runs…… Just happy to have seen this one final time.
All of the best legend, and I’ve no doubt we will see you involved in Free State coaching (Varsity? Union? Grey?) soon.
Thank you for the memories.
12 Feb 2013, 07:28 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-75: Good post. My sentiments exactly.
12 Feb 2013, 07:44 am
Pity he never became the Bok captain. What a player
12 Feb 2013, 07:44 am
pedigree@75
indeed pedigree… very well said…
and yes… very pleased to have watched his last ‘game’ on tv…
12 Feb 2013, 07:46 am
Cheers everyone have a good day/evening
Time for Ch unt du Fernly to get aome work done.
12 Feb 2013, 07:51 am
Arrrghhh…. always sucks when a legend’s career is ended this way… particularly Juan who still had so much more to offer his union, his country and an OS club…
12 Feb 2013, 07:53 am
for me the unsung hero of the 2007 WC together with Butch….
The ‘ perfect ‘ blind side flank, a banker at the back of the lineouts and a tackling ball carrier of distinction……the epitomy of a blindsider….
However, I have to add without being in any negative to Smith, his partnership with Schalk and Spies was a poor one…..
We were drilled at the breakdowns constantly by the Aussies and Kiwis when fronting with that loose trio….yes, we got the odd win, but I would be keen to see the win loss ratio against the Anzacs when that loose trio played as a unit….
Damn we gave G Smith, Waugh and Mc Caw free lunches at the breakdowns …it was a terribly frustrating time !
12 Feb 2013, 07:54 am
RT @keocoza: Bok Juan Smith quits : Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’l… http://t.c …
12 Feb 2013, 07:58 am
@Staal-76:
I think the first SA player to play provincial rugby wearing white boots was the wp fullback calla Scholtz.
It caused quite a stir… Dit was volksvreemd en ou ooms het in hul brannewyn and coke gestik en hul valstande uitgespoeg van verontwaardiging.
Calla was ahead of his time- he did for boots what Percy did for hilites and Hougaardt for ZEF.
12 Feb 2013, 07:59 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-75:
very nicely said, Pedi.
on that note, and i mean no disrespect to him, but an example would be the way people fawned over Bob Skinstad during that time, by comparison.
12 Feb 2013, 08:10 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-83:
It is not Bobbies fault that he had the gift of the gab, the charisma of Ray McCauley, the looks of a moviestar and a tongue like Gene Simmons. No wonder people fawned over him
12 Feb 2013, 08:10 am
@the curse-36:
Semantics.
Have there been any draws in your 20 matches without loss?
There is a record that Springboks share with All Blacks for consecutive wins. If it still stands. How many matches?
Have any All Blacks matches been stopped earlier during this time
12 Feb 2013, 08:13 am
@Liewe Luiperd-38:
Did Kenya not beat the All Blacks?
12 Feb 2013, 08:16 am
@Robzim-84:
well, when you put it that way…
seriously though, he’s a wonderful guy and very likeable but he was never in the ‘League Of Legends’. the Cape Cabal and lovestruck moms and daughters across the country saw to it that he tagged along all the same.
12 Feb 2013, 08:28 am
Good luck to a humble rugby legend. You have made many Springbok rugby supporters proud.
12 Feb 2013, 08:34 am
@Robzim-82:
12 Feb 2013, 08:40 am
whistle blower
Kenya beat the ABs in the semis
thy beat SA in the 1/4s
your point?
12 Feb 2013, 08:44 am
@Bokhoring-77:
If I remember correctly, he was offered the captaincy when injuries plagued the Boks, but he declined.
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think it was during a Tri Nations and wasn’t it the time that they made Muller the interim captain?
12 Feb 2013, 08:46 am
@nortierd-91:
his legend grows by the day.
12 Feb 2013, 08:46 am
We’ve seen the bools try and sing. Perhaps here’s one for the Lions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx6_-urg5fo
12 Feb 2013, 08:55 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-92:
For once we agree Bakkies.
His legend is the praise from his opponents, they are the ones who really rate him and know his worth.
That says a hell of a lot.
What made him special is that he did his job so efficiently that one hardly heard of him, yet his impact was huge.
12 Feb 2013, 09:01 am
A 100%’er if ever there was one.
I wish it could have been different for you, Juan.
You deserved at least a season of captaining the Boks and to go out on your own terms.
It will not in any way diminish your legend status though.
Thank you for outstanding services rendered to SA Rugby as a whole.
12 Feb 2013, 09:03 am
Hey peeps wouldn’t it be fun to try and get a list of the 50 hardest (not necessarily the best) Boks in history? think its relevant cause Juan would surely be on it, old timers please help because i bet there were other guys like Moaner an Joggie Jansen running around back in the day
12 Feb 2013, 09:03 am
Great player. Wish him well for the future; hope he can give input somewhere…
His retirement coincides with the resignation/retirement of the pope.
12 Feb 2013, 09:08 am
@nortierd-94:
absolutely Nortie.
and i dont think there’s a single player and/or supporter from any opposing team or country who would have a bad word to say about him.
great guy, great player.
“Were it not for the fans and my family, then I probably would have made the decision to retire much earlier.” – Legend
12 Feb 2013, 09:13 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-83: Bob Skinstad was rock star…..The end
@Robzim-82: Ohhellyes, even though very young, I recall those boots rather clearly. Members of my own (very English) family were horrified at the glamour……My Uncle called Calla ‘Elton John’ at the time. Funny what one remembers
12 Feb 2013, 09:16 am
@Sheriff-97: Now that is something for the Nostradamus followers….. wasn’t he supposed to be the last one?
12 Feb 2013, 09:16 am
Quite ironic that I read a report yesterday where he talks about his comeback and his farming.
He mentions that someone suggested a special boot with the back cut slightly and how that helped and went further saying that he would like to represent the Boks again form and fitness allowing, and he also hinted on maybe finishing his career in Europe.
Then the same evening the story about his retirement broke.
Very contrasting articles on the same day.
12 Feb 2013, 09:18 am
Testrugby team (not sure about any injured players.)
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FR Deon Fourie STM 0 0 $1,140,555 SELL
LK Andries Bekker STM 0 0 $1,199,500 SELL
LK Pieter-Steph du Toit SHK 0 0 $550,235 SELL
LF Siya Kolisi STM 0 0 $795,500 SELL
LF Arno Botha BUL 0 0 $550,000 SELL
HV Johan Goosen CHE 0 0 $1,177,855 SELL
HV Dan Carter CRU 0 0 $1,295,000 SELL
CT Jan Serfontein BUL 0 0 $512,555 SELL
CT Franscois Steyn SHK 0 0 $1,223,500 SELL
OB Willie Le Roux CHE 0 0 $995,500 SELL
OB Israel Dagg CRU 0 0 $1,215,000 SELL
12 Feb 2013, 09:18 am
@stormersboy-100: Stop right there in the name of our collective sanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You don’t want to wake the sleeping giant of conspiracy…Skop. He slumbers…..leave him be.
12 Feb 2013, 09:21 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-103: Nah wait
Too much fun to be had with this 
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1061311623#post1061311623
12 Feb 2013, 09:22 am
Had a chat with Juan at Kimberly airport in May 2011 and he was on his way to Cape Town for PDV’s 50 man RWC training squad. His leg had a plastic cast and he seemed so optimistic.
Cruciate ligament and Achilles are the career enders.
Hope Duminy recovers.
12 Feb 2013, 09:23 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-96: Here, I’ll kick off… Beat this mofos…
The Hardest farker ever to wear the Bok Jersey was none other than…
A Rhodesian Soutie…
Andy MacDonald – Springbok Prop in the 1960s
“Andy had come from his farm in Zambia to meet with Meads and Lochore and other old hands. We all gazed at him in awe because this was the man who a couple of years before had survived an encounter with a lion. He had gone shooting with native bearers and wounded a lion. He then committed, according to African lore, the absolute folly of trailing the beast. As he came upon it, his attention was monetarily distracted when one of the boys took off at high port. The lion clawed him as it knocked him down and, all told, Andy’s body needed 480 stitches when he was taken to hospital. Survival was incredible enough. The great drama was that while MacDonald’s head was actually in the lion’s mouth, he still had the presence of mind to reach in his hand to grab the tongue. He had his thumb and one finger left of that hand, the others are stumps. It was while he was in this position, helpless, poised on the brink of old inevitable eternity if the lion tighten its jaws that the greatest drama of all occurred. All of a sudden the lion relaxed its hold. It stood and moved eight yards from him. It stood again and then it dropped dead.”
Tiaan Strauss allegedly tackling Wildebeest in his youth is positively farken g.ay compared to the above soutpiel….
12 Feb 2013, 09:24 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-104: Ed Zachery my dear…..
I was thinking of that exact text when I posted it.
I’m off to cash in my pension…..
12 Feb 2013, 09:25 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-99:
oh dear… is this your ‘Pierre Spies’ moment..?..
dust in the wind, Pedi… all he was is dust in the wind…
12 Feb 2013, 09:29 am
Really sad to see him go. He was one of the greatest Bok forwards ever to wear the jersey. Above and beyond his performances on the field he was a fine ambassador for Bok rugby. He let his playing do the talking, something many of today’s youth would do well to learn from.
Farewell and thank you for your contribution Juan Smith.
12 Feb 2013, 09:33 am
He will be missed. True geeat of the game and bok legend. Pity he wont play this last season but a career to be proud of.
12 Feb 2013, 09:34 am
@Heavens Game-106: So what! Juan Smith beat 2009 lions.
12 Feb 2013, 09:39 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-108: Nah. Already had my Pierre Spies moment this morning. Plyometric training, Box Jumps (Pierre’s speciality ) and a landing that went horribly wrong…….
This was my Bieber moment for th day – rock star
@Heavens Game-106: What did he do on the rugga field? Just asking….because what he did there amounts to survival and fight or flight. It means he is mentally tough. (as are 2 year olds/geriatrics and skinny string beans who manage to perform amazing feats when in survival mode….)
Tough buggars on the rugga field is the topic?
12 Feb 2013, 09:42 am
nominees for 50 HARDEST BOKS
BAKKIES
MARK ANDREWS
ANDRE VENTER
CORNE KRIGE
JUAN SMITH
SCHALK
HENRY HONNIBAL
JOHN SMIT
OS
RUBEN KRUGER
AJ VENTER
JAPIE MULDER
PIETER MULLER
CHRIS RUSSOUW (THE HOOKER)
DALTON
WIKUS V HEERDEN
sure i forgot a lot of guys please add just some guys i saw play i who i would’ve put in
12 Feb 2013, 09:42 am
@Sheriff-97: Coincides? I don’t think it is a coincidence. I knew Juan would head off to Europe.
12 Feb 2013, 09:44 am
@Heavens Game-106:
Johan Ackerman’s Lions are more brave just by pitching up for training in the middle of Jo’burg.
That takes pure guts.
12 Feb 2013, 09:46 am
@Heavens Game-106: haha that is an epic tale! if its true absolutely the stuff of legends, doubt anyone can beat him for the nr1 spot!
12 Feb 2013, 09:46 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-112:
you’re right, Bieber moment is more appropriate,
he certainly does have the hair and baby face thing going for him… and a very graceful swan dive.
12 Feb 2013, 09:53 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-113:
Jan Boland Coetzee
12 Feb 2013, 09:55 am
Just received an e-mail advertising SA Rugbys new website. Strangely it came as a “no reply” from keo.co.za.
12 Feb 2013, 09:55 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-116: Strues Bob… Cheers
12 Feb 2013, 10:01 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-113:
is it a coincidence Bakkies is at the start of that list?
12 Feb 2013, 10:02 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-113: After MacDonald… The hardest…
1. Ruben Kruger… legend… Scored a try with fractured leg/ankle with players piggy backing him on way to tryline…
2. Lood Muller… Played a few games at tighthead with a feared broken neck…
3. Lem… Also played with a fckedup neck…
Honourable mention : Buck Shelford, not a Bok granted, but lost a ballas during a game… and then continued…
Hard Muthas all…
12 Feb 2013, 10:04 am
@stormersboy-100:
Well according to the Prophecies of St Malachi:
‘The Prophecies of St. Malachy_ by Peter Bander republished by TAN Books consists of comments on the saint’s life and then his prophecies regarding the future popes from the twelfth century till the end of time. Saint Malachy of Armagh, Ireland was an eleventh century bishop and saint who died in the hands of Saint Bernard of Clairvaux and who foretold the day and hour of his own death.
According to legend, Saint Malachy had a series of visions while visiting Rome which consisted of the prophecies regarding all future popes till the end of time. These prophecies consist of brief Latin descriptions of all the popes, which have born an uncanny resemblance to various aspects of each subsequent pope’s reign.
Many have scoffed at these prophecies, and some regard them to be forgeries, however they continue to hold up to scrutiny even into these modern times. Malachy predicted 112 popes ahead of his time until the destruction of the Church of Rome and the end of the world. These predictions are especially relevant to these modern times because depending on how the prophecies are interpreted, it may be that we are living near the end of days.
According to the prophecies, the deceased Pope John Paul II was “De Labore Solis”, and the soon to be elected future pope will be “Gloria Olivae”.
This pope will be followed by the last pope “Petrus Romanus”.
Malachy has written “In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.” Some have interpreted this to mean that following Pope John Paul II there are only two popes left. However, others more wary of this interpretation have suggested that “Petrus Romanus” need not follow directly after “Gloria Olivae” but there may be a gap. This interpretation seems to make sense.
These prophecies also predict many of the antipopes who reigned along with the popes but who were deemed not canonically elected by the church. With the death of Pope John Paul II and much speculation regarding his successor, as well as with the events of the Second Vatican Council and the subsequent crisis in the church, these prophecies are proving particularly important to consider. They have enjoyed immense popularity and consider to do so as we near the coming papal election. Indeed, it may be that we are living near the end of days as predicted by the prophets.
12 Feb 2013, 10:04 am
Who are these people
2.BarryJoBester said:
11 Feb 2013, 20:49 pm
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3.peajon said:
11 Feb 2013, 20:51 pm
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4.llewellyn2758 said:
11 Feb 2013, 20:52 pm
RT @keocoza: Bok Juan Smith quits : Juan Smith was a giant of a Bok player. As a person he was even larger in stature. I’l… http://t.c …
12 Feb 2013, 10:04 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-121: haha no its not from the guys ive seen he would be nr.1 my opinion off course
12 Feb 2013, 10:09 am
My Hard men 15
1. MacDonald
2. Bullet
3. Lood
4. Adri Geldenhuys
5. Bakkies
6. Ruben Kruger
7. Andre Venter
8. Keegan Daniel
9. Robert Du Preez
10. Lem
11. Ray Mordt
12. Mannetjies
13. Helgard Muller
14. James Small
15. Andre Stoop (Not a Bok, but the hardest FB in CC)
Fight or Play the game – these okes will take most and fuckemup
12 Feb 2013, 10:10 am
@Heavens Game-122: wow awesome stories never heard it before seems like the saying they don’t make them like they used too anymore is true after all. a bit uncalled for to bring up the Ruben injury again, just saw it play in my mind again horrible, was in nz if i remember correctly
12 Feb 2013, 10:13 am
@David-119:
look, i’m being sincere when i say this.
i do not like having two men staring back at me the whole time.
that it’s a Sharkie and Stormpie is incidental.
its unnerving
12 Feb 2013, 10:15 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-127: Wasn’t to be gruesome, just to show how farken hard Ruben, though unassuming to a fault, actually was…
Will never forget how he and Wiese out stared the greatest AB side – though not RWC winners – in the haka before the Final of the greated RWC…
May his Legend grow and live forever…
12 Feb 2013, 10:20 am
@Heavens Game-129: totally agree, plus lets not forget he did score in the final Bevan was crazy not 2 award that, just watched it the other day again ball was def on the ground only thing maybe wrong was obstruction
12 Feb 2013, 10:21 am
juan, you are one of my all time bok legends, may you find happiness in whatever you do next.
p.s. you were the player of the tourney rwc 2007. no doubt.
12 Feb 2013, 10:22 am
@Heavens Game-129: does the name rex greyling mean anything to you HG?
12 Feb 2013, 10:24 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-130: You are right, but it wasn’t Welsh Bevan in the final… It was English Ed Morrison…
But yeah, Ruben did score without a shadow of doubt…
12 Feb 2013, 10:24 am
haha, my old man was telling me on sunday how when he played collegians he took a side swipe punch from bj van zyl that nearly knocked him out in a club game.
they both played for the same team and van zyl was lining up someone on the opposing team at the time haha.
12 Feb 2013, 10:25 am
@The Rangerman-132: Hard farking farmer banana boy…
12 Feb 2013, 10:28 am
@Heavens Game-135: haha, he was in the same year as my old man at kearsney.
they both played 1st team in std 8.
rex the center, my old man at 8.
trix truter, charlie sawyer, bj van zyl, malcolm swanby etc etc.
those were the players my old man was in teams with but after school he was a lock.
12 Feb 2013, 10:30 am
@Heavens Game-133: o yea, whoops sorry don’t know why i thought it was Bevan, there was a bit of a fuss around Morrison before the final cause he sent Small off before, Balie Swart may warrant a mention 2 playing the semi and final with broken ribs (tight head against an ab scrum with broken ribs must be pretty uncomfortable)
12 Feb 2013, 10:32 am
good times good times.
kinda makes doggies usual k uuuuuuuuuuuuuu k about banana boys/sharks fans being johnny come latelies but maybe she is a relative newcomer to the sport of rugby because the natal rugby history is old and our supporters have generations of affiliation to the team.
then again, the cape bubble probably made her deaf to the fact that louis luyt allowed natal into the top tier of rugby due to the fact that kings park was consistently the second biggest rugby crowd in the country in the mid to late 80′s.
12 Feb 2013, 10:32 am
@The Rangerman-134: lol… I know of one instance where a team mate, a loosie, cuffed his own hooker in the midst of a bit of tight loose – not quite a ruck, not quite a maul – a bit of a mess… Said hooker in rage, stood up and swung the biggest haymaker you ever saw since Mendez on Ackford, and cut down his own lock… Smoked.
12 Feb 2013, 10:32 am
@Heavens Game-135: werent you a collegians player HG?
12 Feb 2013, 10:33 am
Bookmaker Paddy Power
9/4 Cardinal Peter Turkson (1)
5/2 Cardinal Marc Ouellet (2)
7/2 Cardinal Francis Arinze (3)
Bookmaker Ladbrokes
5/2 Cardinal Peter Turkson (1)
3/1 Cardinal Marc Ouellet (2)
4/1 Cardinal Francis Arinze (3)
12 Feb 2013, 10:34 am
@The Rangerman-136: Your Old Man also from East Griqualand… Or was this Collegians team mates…
12 Feb 2013, 10:35 am
@Heavens Game-139: was it bj van zyl?
because if it was then it was my old man who got smoked
he laughs about it now but he got free drinks from van zyl the rest of the night hahahahahaha.
although the old man reckons it was a clenched fist backhand swing that connected as he arrived at the ruck
12 Feb 2013, 10:35 am
@Heavens Game-135: my friend just made a good point about MacDonald, the guy who ran away mustve gotten a pretty good klap when MacDonald got home doubt the story ended with the lions death!
12 Feb 2013, 10:36 am
@Heavens Game-142: nah, a durban boy. collegians teammates haha.
12 Feb 2013, 10:37 am
@The Rangerman-140: Nope, not Durban Collegians or Collegians Tech as it was called for a while…
Maybe the other better team with College in it – the current runaway Club Champs…
Certainly not those poeftahs where Hugh Reece and Tony Watson played with the funny club near the Engen service station
12 Feb 2013, 10:37 am
Bookmaker Paddy Power
9/4 Cardinal Peter Turkson (1)
5/2 Cardinal Marc Ouellet (2)
7/2 Cardinal Francis Arinze (3)
Bookmaker Ladbrokes
5/2 Cardinal Peter Turkson (1)
3/1 Cardinal Marc Ouellet (2)
4/1 Cardinal Francis Arinze (3)
Interesting then is that 2 out of the early top 3 are african, that is, not from europe.
Well not too long from now we will see the smoke from the chimney from the City of Seven Hills…
12 Feb 2013, 10:40 am
@The Rangerman-143: Lol… and excellent story… Not sure of the players involved…
Know a good one about two brothers playing for opposite sides – one a flank, another a hooker… boet flank clubbed hooker and boetie hooker turned, swung and connected with unfortunate ref…
Fark me, what is it with hookers… Rabid little fellahs all…
12 Feb 2013, 10:42 am
@The Rangerman-145: Some hard bu.ggers from East Griqualand… Also some big history from there too – Ebbo Ba.stard an old, famous name in NRU, came from there… and a few others too
12 Feb 2013, 10:43 am
So long Juan.
One of the most respected Players of his generation.
Live long and prosper.
12 Feb 2013, 10:43 am
@Heavens Game-146: haha, crusaders lol.
lots of mates played for them and lots for glenwood and now old boys.
good times.
12 Feb 2013, 10:43 am
Is it not interesting that the early favourite has the first name of ‘Peter’?
Will Cardinal Peter Turkson from Ghana become ‘Peter the Roman’ or Petrus Romanus’?
Will he take the name Pius the 13th or Pius XIII?
If so then we could well be in the time of the last pope as per the prophecies of Malachy.
12 Feb 2013, 10:45 am
@The Rangerman-138: Doggy seems to know farkall about true heartland rugger other than the Cape Bubble or the stuff coming from SARugby, You Magazine or Heat… All the same wrt real rugby…
A Rottie Rugby expert if ever there was one
12 Feb 2013, 10:45 am
@Sheriff-147:
Always put your money on an Italian.
Forget the media hype.
12 Feb 2013, 10:46 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-144: 100%… Little native gun bearer…
Hmmm, thats got me thinking about my own personal umfanawami on Keo… Where’s Transie…?
12 Feb 2013, 10:48 am
@Hans Wlomeyer-125:
hehe
agreed
12 Feb 2013, 10:50 am
@cane-154:
Are you saying that the Pope can never be an African?
The Americans have installed Barack Hussein Obama (aka Barry Soetoro); is not time for Roman Catholics who have always been non-racial in their affairs to do the same?
What is clear to me at this early stage is that the Pope will not be from New Zealand…
12 Feb 2013, 10:50 am
@Heavens Game-126: There was another Keegan Daniel?
12 Feb 2013, 10:52 am
@Sheriff-157: They have Poep instead.
12 Feb 2013, 10:52 am
@The Rangerman-151: Yes… Excellent times… There was a bit of a golden era in Natal Club Rugby in late 1980′s to Mid 90′s where stadiums such as Woodburn and Mick Kelly in Empangeni, would be packed, along with most other club grounds, with people having a great day out watching Club rugger…
Also remember MOB day in Maritzburg too…
12 Feb 2013, 10:53 am
@stormer in a teacup-158: There is only one… The Christian Cullen of Loosies…
A phenomenon…
Heart of a Lion…
12 Feb 2013, 10:57 am
@Heavens Game-149: have an uncle from sheppie who played lock for duikers.
captained them too.
he is still a hard mofo. good fisherman too.
12 Feb 2013, 10:57 am
@Sheriff-157:
Smart money goes on The Italians.
12 Feb 2013, 10:59 am
@Heavens Game-160: i still go to club rugger games whenever i can.
rovers vs saders or old boys gets a huge crowd.
and we all drink together bom bom…
12 Feb 2013, 10:59 am
Keo is pumping out these Articles like his life depended on it.
Busy busy busy.
12 Feb 2013, 11:01 am
@Heavens Game-153: ruck used to target the bulls fans but after they all left she suddenly developed an intense hatred for the sharks
i think she enjoys the banter as much as anyone but her ridiculous assertions about natal rugby history is as blinkered as any of the cape bubble brigade who know nothing of the history of natal or its inhabitants.
they probably dont even know that we were a country for a short while haha.
12 Feb 2013, 11:02 am
@The Rangerman-162: South Coast boys… a different breed… Champion boozers
More of a North Coaster myself…
12 Feb 2013, 11:04 am
Will the new incoming Pope also have a ‘wandering knuckle finding thumb’ than the current one?
I’m referring to the freemasonry handshake…
12 Feb 2013, 11:07 am
Kiwis in spotlight as drugs probe continues:
The New Zealand Rugby League have become interested bystanders to the Australian Crime Commission’s investigation into drugs in sport as they try to plan the Kiwis’ World Cup defence.
The six NRL clubs – Manly, Cronulla, Newcastle, Canberra, North Queensland and Penrith – mentioned in the ACC report were all contacted by the NRL on Monday night but given no further information, leaving them unaware what they were being investigated for. The Warriors have not been contacted and are confident they operate cleanly.
There is still little detail about what the commission has found and what sanctions, if any, might be brought down on clubs or individuals.
There are a number of New Zealand players who are at the six clubs or have played there recently, including Kieran Foran, Jeremy Smith, Sam McKendry, Dean Whare, Lewis Brown, Sika Manu, Jason Taumalolo and Antonio Winterstein, and the NZRL are keen to find out what it might mean with the Kiwis due to defend the World Cup later this year in the UK and France.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10864994
12 Feb 2013, 11:07 am
@The Rangerman-166: Yup… The irony is, especially with these Cape pisswilly PC brigades, is that while the Cape Bubble is busy insulating itself from the rest of SA, and indeed Africa, with this false sense of rather Eurocentric superiority, whether it is with rugby or education etc (Cant forget them Educational “refugees” of Godzille…), the “Last Outpost” is probably the most diverse, cosmopolitan province in the country, with more Whitey’s able to converse in the vernacular other than Voortrekker code than anywhere else in the country…
Zulu’s + Charo’s + Souties…
12 Feb 2013, 11:07 am
@Heavens Game-167: the sheppie hillbilly’s haha.
playing at sheppie (south coast warriors now) is always a rough one.
had my ribs broken there by a no. 8 who was quite vicious a few years ago
kokstad used to be the same. ****** cement field and blood on the grass.
cold beer afterwards though, a real bunch of gents off the field..
12 Feb 2013, 11:07 am
Kiwis or Kiwi-eligible/declared players at the clubs involved in the Australian Crime Commission investigation:
Newcastle
David Fa’alogo
Jeremy Smith
Paterika Vaivai
Marvin Filipo
Tonga Likiliki
Toka Likiliki
Zane Tetevano
Junior Sa’u (left for Melbourne)
Evarn Tuimavave (left for Kull KR)
Penrith
Sam McKendry
Dean Whare (from Manly)
Lewis Brown (from Warriors)
Sika Manu (from Melbourne)
Canberra
Scott Jones
Bronson Harrison (has left for St George-Illawarra)
North Queensland
Jason Taumalolo
Antonio Winterstein
Kalifa Faifai Loa
Wayne Ulugia
Felise Kaufusi
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10864836
12 Feb 2013, 11:09 am
@Sheriff-169: Thought it was the other way round… wandering thumb finding knuckle 2nd or 3rd…
Dont forget standing square too…
12 Feb 2013, 11:09 am
@Heavens Game-161: the crowd surfer himself.
12 Feb 2013, 11:10 am
@Heavens Game-171: haha, Voortrekker code.
funny thing, growing up if i heard afrikaans once a month out of school it was a lot.
but durbs has been invaded by the Voories of late. no problem with that, just makes us an even more diverse bunch united around the sharkie banner.
12 Feb 2013, 11:13 am
@The Rangerman-172: “sheppie hillbilly’s”… excellent
Some of the best clubs I have visited have been in the “platteland”… Empangeni, or later North Coast Rhinos, was always a blast and farken frightening for the liver…
Older MacIntosh Brother used to play there before he went all Crusader on his way to the Blue Bulls…
Kevin Putt’s home turf too… Hard farken Zululanders…
12 Feb 2013, 11:13 am
Hamba Kahle, Juan.
I’d like to reflect on the injury a little.
Could it be a result of to much focus on strength and not enough on limberness? (is that even a word?)
Thoughts?
12 Feb 2013, 11:15 am
Congratulations guys. Durban – a city where different races coexist and talk to one another. Indeed a role model for the rest of the country.
12 Feb 2013, 11:19 am
@The Rangerman-176: No problem at all… Good farkers actually, they find it hard to get self deprecation though – can lead to confusion… Takingthepiss out of yourself is a foreign concept to our Afrikaans brothers and some sensitivity can abound, but after initial confused hostilities, klippies and coke can flow big time… Bleeding eyes on a Sunday is not unusual for this soutie in Pretoria… Farken d.evils drink though…
A funny thing is that no-one drinks Cane for the pain up here – more of a Soutie, Charo Natal drink I reckon… All Brannewyn…. No wonder Loftus a teetotal zone…
12 Feb 2013, 11:19 am
Dis nou hartskerend nuus
Juan was n absoluut yster en rol model vir die volgende generasie Bokke.
n Springbok legende langs manne soos Andre Venter, Reuben Kruger ens.
12 Feb 2013, 11:23 am
@Heavens Game-127:
For the ultimate slugfest and rugby brutality your team can face the following one:
1. Hempies du |Toit
2. Lukas van Biljon
3. Robbie Kempson
4. Armand du Preez (dirties forward ever)
5. Raynard Elstadt
6. Boland Coetzee or Corne Krige
7. Theuns Stoffberg
8. Eben Jansen
9. Tommie du Plessis
10. Michael du Plessis
11. Gert Muller
12. Joggie Jansen
13. Brendan Venter
14. Niel Burger
15. Butch James (out of position for the day)
Its not going to be for the faint hearted.
12 Feb 2013, 11:25 am
@Heavens Game-180:
“no one drinks Cane….”
I assume you mean Sour Cane, the breakfast of champions.
12 Feb 2013, 11:27 am
@Robzim-83: LOL – “Hougaardt for ZEF”
12 Feb 2013, 11:27 am
@stormer in a teacup-179: While the fruitpickers of the Hex Valley and the rest of the WC throw their toys and burn down farms, the Cane Cutters (a far worse job in many ways) of Natal are generally happy with their lot…
People talk to eachother more in Natal, East of Eden… They understand eachother better… They dont have this politically correct sense of superiority, and NIMBY attitude, that leads to rightful resentment like on the sultana and raisin farms in the Wicked West…
Maybe you fools should look further than your PC noses and realise that there is more to SA than Table Mountain…
12 Feb 2013, 11:29 am
@Robzim-182: Fark… I got to 3… I see Robbie Kempson and I keel over…
Laughing… my lily white a.rse off…
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAaAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAHHAAAAAAAHAAAaaAAA
12 Feb 2013, 11:31 am
@cane-183: Cane Spirits, Caner… Distilled from finest Cane sugar…
Pure, distilled ethanol…
Beyootiful moggy juice… with a minimal hangover to consumation ratio…
12 Feb 2013, 11:34 am
@Heavens Game-180:
Cane and Creme Soda.
Durban Champagne.
12 Feb 2013, 11:35 am
@Heavens Game-186:
When I saw keegan in your team the same thing happened to me (the laughter)
He might make the team as a masseuse.
On a serious note…compare him to someone like Eben Jansen in the hardman stakes……. its like comparing Justin Bieber to Pavarotti
12 Feb 2013, 11:40 am
Not sure if this has been discussed already, but has Juan only retired from international rugby (ie he will still play in the S15) or is he done for good?
12 Feb 2013, 11:41 am
@gunther-188: Consumed to the rhythms of Roxanne… 2 litre creme soda to 1 litre Cane, passed around a circle of 6-8, taking a gulp everytime the woman’s name is mentioned…
Mix Finished by end of song… A true Last Outpost warm up…
12 Feb 2013, 11:43 am
@Robzim-189: Keegan was there to elicit such a reaction from you farken brokeback punks…
You didnt disappoint…
But you put Kempson there in all seriousness…
Seriously farken hilarious
12 Feb 2013, 11:51 am
@Robzim-182: No James Dalton? Burger Geldenhuys? James Small? Johan Roux?
12 Feb 2013, 11:51 am
@Heavens Game-192:
OK man, i put him there only to make the team more balanced from a provincial point of view. Otherwise the shark fans would accuse me of being biased. Robbie is after all hard for a shark. Lets replace him then with Mof Myburgh.
12 Feb 2013, 11:52 am
@Heavens Game-180: Was at a braai in Fishhoek the other day and this Brazilian dude was there – he made this drink with lots of ice, chopped up and slightly mushed lime slices, brown sugar and cane – now that was heaven – been drinking it ever since and everyone I make it for is instantly hooked.
Lekka summer cocktail – and no hangover
I think it was called Caipirinha (pronounced ‘KIE-PUR-REEN-YAH)…..
12 Feb 2013, 11:54 am
@Heavens Game-162: Heart of a Lion….body of a Yorkie.
@gunther-188: Guppies reliving their ‘glory days’…. A time when their rugby wasn’t recognised as anything more than social. Almost like Action cricket, or 7′s on the beach at Camps Bay. HG seems to have prospered.
12 Feb 2013, 11:54 am
@Taahirah-193:
I was excluding players already “selected” by HG (Dalton and Small). But you are right, I forgot about the earbiter, he was quite a wild one for sure.
12 Feb 2013, 11:54 am
@cane-183:
As opposed to Sour Cane who only appears when the toilet paper runs out?
12 Feb 2013, 11:58 am
@Robzim-197: Oh. Didnt see HG’s team.
12 Feb 2013, 12:02 pm
When i think hard men i think of guys like Gary Pagel, **** Muir, De Wet Barry, Elandre van der Berg, the Bester brothers, Johann Ackerman and Drikus Hattingh, I’m surprised they haven’t come up.
12 Feb 2013, 12:03 pm
@Heavens Game-185: which thumb do you suck this cr.ap out of? How do you know that people getting a sh.it wage for s sh.it job are happy with their lot? Just because they are all smiley when Baas walks by? He’s one of us because he chucks a couple of Zulu words our way. It was that kind of deluded arrogance that that sunk the Good Ship Rhodesia. People migrate to the Cape for a good reason. Carry on Boss Boy isn’t feeding the family.
12 Feb 2013, 12:04 pm
@gunther-198: No that’s Crusty Cane….
12 Feb 2013, 12:04 pm
@Robzim-194: Mof being thoroughly appropriate… For the likes of you and the other Pink feather Boa wearers of course…
Which probably includes most of the whitemen in the Fairest Fishdorpie under the mountain too…
Never mind, not your fault… A definition of hard brings a different meaning to you Stormin’ bent over brokebacks than to the rest of honest rugga players or supporters of the World in Union…
And then I see Elstadt, another “hard” man… Farksakes, even Mark Andrews would have him for breakfast and Atherton would use him as a toothpick…
Farken “hard” men of the fairest… Chuckling shitlesss here…
12 Feb 2013, 12:07 pm
@Heavens Game-203: Jirre that 4 day old rotten shad head you are trawling with is miff bru….
12 Feb 2013, 12:07 pm
@Blokkies-195: Sounds like a Capearinghole to me (Cape-a-ring-hole to you DHL Stormin’ Feather Boa supporters…)
A true “hardman” drink of the Fairest Cape…
12 Feb 2013, 12:12 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food-196: “7?s on the beach at Camps Bay”… or clutching ballas in the bay of pigs on a sunny day… Naah, not for any honest Rugga lovers outside the mountain bubble thankyaverymuch….
Not that you would know any different, after all life and rugby starts in Durbanville and ends at the boundary of the Mjondolos outside Cape Town Airport for the likes of you poor myopic PC whiteys in the Brokeback peninsula…
Shamepies, not your fault you cant see the Cape wood for the African trees past the tip of your nimby noses…
12 Feb 2013, 12:16 pm
@stormer in a teacup-201: In the Last Outpost the Zulu is baas…
No baas whitey anymore, like you fools reckon in the Wicked West with your deluded self pronounced boundary from the rest of Real SA…
Actually a Zulu is baas for the whole of SA too… and that actually includes that Fishdorpie getting farked up quickly by Godzille and crew… From sprawling Airport mjondolos, to “Refugees” from their own country to Hex Valley saltana slavery….
The sooner you realise this, the more South African you’ll actually become or be… Capiche Mlungu?
12 Feb 2013, 12:18 pm
@Blokkies-204:
12 Feb 2013, 12:19 pm
@Heavens Game-205: Boet, 3 of those dops and you’ll be lying face down @ss up, lol.
Anyway I am off – hope you catch something with vrot bait of yours
12 Feb 2013, 12:20 pm
Everybody and their petty arguments just shut the F up already you effing wankers.
Its a sad sad day indeed for Bok rugby. For Juan to have been cut down so suddenly before he could bow out of bok rugby on his own steam is indeed a tragedy and I for one will be incredibly sad to never see him play in the Green and Gold again.
He has been one of the most outstanding Boks in recent history and was always the same – always good and always level headed. He will be an immense loss for us. Incredible how many greats SA rugby has lost in the last year.
Go well Juan and hope to see you doing some coaching sometime soon.
12 Feb 2013, 12:21 pm
@Blokkies-209: Classic…
Not bad for a bent brokeback, I must say myself…
Real honest Rugby has been your salvation clearly, my son…
12 Feb 2013, 12:23 pm
@Slumtown-210: Juan… a Real Bok… Would have looked good in Black and White to go with his Green and Gold legend…
A pity…
But BOOM! anyway…
12 Feb 2013, 12:27 pm
@Heavens Game-211: Growing up as a soutie in Potch you can bet I got buckled plenty by the mielie boertjies – those are hard muthaføckers.
But I have always been able to give as good as I get.
12 Feb 2013, 12:30 pm
@Slumtown-210: Yeah. Juan a man of massive integrity. Could have followed many others for bigger bucks, and he would have commanded amongst the highest. A man from another era almost.
12 Feb 2013, 12:47 pm
@Sheriff-153: What did Malachy say about Peter the Turk’s son?
12 Feb 2013, 13:18 pm
Tacitus must be so confused after and kie’s makietjie.
Jir why didn’t they give Zane Kirchner a line to sing, you can see the stars in his eyes as the boys in front of him hit their notes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cYRRAvi3cpw#!
12 Feb 2013, 13:19 pm
@wpstormerbok-216:
Spies & kie that is…
12 Feb 2013, 13:20 pm
And salutations to Juan Yster Smith.
12 Feb 2013, 13:44 pm
In a day and age where rugby players cannot wait to get onto Top Billing Juan Smith is a player I will miss.
Go well legend.
12 Feb 2013, 13:54 pm
So the queens select 5 foreign players in their squad, despite telling SARU that they will abide by the rules on this matter. Arrogant Cheeky fukcer. Why did he change his entitled mind.
Keo get your hands dirty and write about this kak.
12 Feb 2013, 13:59 pm
in 2 weeks time Kings will play Super Rugby and the Lions some koekliga against Swaziland … ohhhhhhhhh its trueeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
12 Feb 2013, 14:07 pm
@the curse-91:
haha ok, the boks and the all blacks are bad then
12 Feb 2013, 14:29 pm
@Heavens Game-123:
“Honourable mention : Buck Shelford, not a Bok granted, but lost a ballas during a game… and then continued…”
Must be the Winner!!!!! Anyone loosing his ballas and continue playing??? I mean, how tough can you really be???!!!!!!
12 Feb 2013, 14:33 pm
@@whistle@blower@-223: Shelford was and is a tough mutha…
He might have been tough enough to don Green and Gold or indeed Black and White (Sharks black and white that is) in his day…
Another tough mutha from sheepshagger heaven was one Cowboy Shaw…
Not many from Kiwiland, granted, but the real hard mofos, were very farken hard indeed…
12 Feb 2013, 14:34 pm
@@whistle@blower@-223:
Spies lost his before the game even started, and still played.
12 Feb 2013, 14:40 pm
Who was the AB psychopathic prop that was selected to intimidate the Boks with his dirty play?
12 Feb 2013, 14:42 pm
@Heavens Game-224:
What do these pillowbiters from the fairy cape do after a club rugby game?
Drink wine and discuss literature?
They even make the crusaders lot in deben look tough.
12 Feb 2013, 14:42 pm
@David-226: Kevin Skinner… A heavyweight NZ boxing champ…
A real NZ boxing Champ… Not a Sunni Boel…
12 Feb 2013, 14:45 pm
@Heavens Game-228:
Imagine if the ref was unsighted after your kinghit on a Quins boy and you did not get sent off…
12 Feb 2013, 14:45 pm
@Heavens Game-140:
Very good laugh!!
Reminds me of the 3rd team koshuis league hooker. Bit of flabby pokkel. Saw this face bottom of the loose scrum and decided to put it away. Threw his hardest punch ever, then retreated, but found his ankle in tight grip. It was the punched guy holding on. Got up. Towered above the hooker. And one shot booked him to hospital.
A genuine story.
12 Feb 2013, 14:48 pm
Or like a friend told me, when he grabbed the guy by the biceps he knew he had made a mistake to confront him in the first place. Next moment he was flat on his back
12 Feb 2013, 14:52 pm
@@whistle@blower@-223:
He didn’t lose a testicle, as such…but he did have a cut scrotum and lost three teeth in that collision in 1986. Stood calmly on the sideline while it got stitched up, waiting to return to the field…only to suffer a major concussion later.
To this day he claims he remembers nothing about that game.
12 Feb 2013, 14:53 pm
@@whistle@blower@-231:
Once during a game this oke was plukking one of our okes around.
Our hooker walked up pulled his fist 30cm away at most and dropped the oke with a jab.
We saw the oke 2 weeks later in a club and he was still suffering from headaches.
Poor kid.
12 Feb 2013, 14:54 pm
A good decision by a great player.
Well done on a vey good Bok career, Juan. Enjoy your time with family and friends now.
I just hope other Boks see this and don’t play on too long to the detriment of their team.
12 Feb 2013, 14:56 pm
@nama1-234:
Let’s hope Free State retains him in some form of mentor/coaching capacity.
He is a fantastic role model and I’m sure the young guys there would go to war for him.
12 Feb 2013, 15:02 pm
@Heavens Game-228:
Yeah, that’s the one. Even the NZRU finally banned him, if I’m not mistaken.
12 Feb 2013, 15:14 pm
@WP-Forever-235:
Agree.
He has so much to offer Free State and SA rugby. The question is, can they afford him?
12 Feb 2013, 15:14 pm
@Heavens Game-224:
I followed your banter on the cape broke backs….
Take a drive up the west coast. Tough as they come. Vredenburg, Saldanha, Morreesburg etc etc
Tommy Loubscher. Not one for wearing shoes. Would get straight of his tractor and drive to Cape Town for practice.
And the Etzebeth family. Skattie Etzebeth and the rest. From the hard part of Cape Town behind the boerewors curtain.
12 Feb 2013, 15:17 pm
@David-225:
hahaha
12 Feb 2013, 15:20 pm
@@whistle@blower@-238:
Skattie?
Bwhahaha!
What a name,nearly like Richard Gere who’s middle name is Tiffany.
12 Feb 2013, 15:24 pm
@WP-Forever-232:
even worse, he must be voted the toughest!!!
Like the wrestler who was pinned down completely. Saw the opponents ball bag and sunk his teeth. Just to discover that he sunk his teeth into his own ball bag
@Fern-233:
I wonder how SBW felt at practice yesterday?
12 Feb 2013, 15:26 pm
@@whistle@blower@-238:
Ruyterwacht, you should ask TheTackler about the Etzebeths.
12 Feb 2013, 15:30 pm
@Fern-240:
Fern, its best to laugh here, please don’t try in his face.
Suppose one did not joke with Mof Myburgh either about his name
Etzebeths the kind of guys who would empty the bar at the Goodwood Hotel, just to have it to themselves
I think I saw Skattie on TV not long ago. To do with Springbok wrestling.
12 Feb 2013, 15:31 pm
@Heavens Game-107: Yoh! Good story HG.
Those When Wes were tough ouens.
But his name is the clue “Andrew McDonald” – you dont get much tougher than Scots Highlanders. They remind me of Afrikaners (altho more ginger)
12 Feb 2013, 15:32 pm
@WP-Forever-242:
Yes,yes Ruiterwacht. I forgot the name.
What is it called nowadays?
Did Tackler hang around with them, or did he get roughed up by them?
12 Feb 2013, 15:45 pm
@WP-Forever-242:
Even the prossies there will **** you up.
12 Feb 2013, 15:49 pm
Sad news ! all the best big man. Enjoy your retirement and thanks for all the good rugby you played for your province and south africa.
12 Feb 2013, 15:55 pm
@@whistle@blower@-245: Why you calling him Ruiterwacht?
12 Feb 2013, 15:58 pm
@gunther-246:
And I bet you’ve got the scars to prove it?
12 Feb 2013, 16:08 pm
@@whistle@blower@-243: It was Cliffie. He won the wold masters wrestling champs or something like that.
But you are right about the Etsebeths. There are less of them than there used to be, but I would mind my “P”s and “Q”s around them. Particularly the older generation.
Eben and Ryan are huge guys, bigger than their uncles, but they seem to have their heads screwed on right.
12 Feb 2013, 16:08 pm
@David-249:
Emotional yes.
12 Feb 2013, 16:11 pm
@stormersboy-250:
It was a nice touch seeing Eben supporting his school, Tygerberg, at the MTBS athletics champs.
BTW, if I recall correctly Cliffie still competes for South Africa in wrestling, in the Masters division.
12 Feb 2013, 16:15 pm
@gunther-251:
I respect an honest man!
12 Feb 2013, 16:16 pm
@WP-Forever-252: Yes that’s right. One tough “oom” is that Cliffie.
12 Feb 2013, 16:21 pm
@stormersboy-254:
That family has actually experienced its fair share of tragedy.
12 Feb 2013, 16:28 pm
@WP-Forever-255: Yes, that’s what i was referring to when i said that there are not as many of them left as there used to be.
They’ve had their share and more as you say.
12 Feb 2013, 17:38 pm
I thought he was retired?
12 Feb 2013, 18:00 pm
What is the best fantasy rugby site to play S15 on? I remember a few years back there was one that we all played.
12 Feb 2013, 18:56 pm
fernley you bliksem funnybugger… hahahahaha…
pillowbiting Saders…lol… Dangerman gonna choke in his crayfish paella…
farkenLol
12 Feb 2013, 18:58 pm
farkoff fern… that quinns bluff scruff was blindsided fair and square… haha
12 Feb 2013, 19:12 pm
@260
Did you go straight home after you got that red card?
12 Feb 2013, 19:44 pm
Oosthuizen on his way back
Feb 12,2013
Written by: SARugby.com Editor
Cheetahs prop Coenie Oosthuizen’s comeback from injury is on track after he came through his first live scrums unscathed this week.
The Springbok front-rower, who has been sidelined for the last few months with both a neck and back injury, is recovering steadily, with the Cheetahs nursing him slowly back into action.
Despite missing all three of the Bloemfontein-based franchise’s warm-up matches, Oosthuizen is a likely starter in next Saturday’s Super Rugby opener against the Sharks.
He was given permission to partake in the scrums, after receiving clearance from a specialist, and Cheetahs coach Naka Drotske is happy with the 23-year-old’s progress.
“Coenie looked very good in practices and we are full of confidence he will be able to play against the Sharks next week,” Drotske told Supersport
Meanwhile,Springbok fly-half Johan Goosen, who missed all the warm-up matches with a foot injury, has also been declared fit for the clash with the Sharks in Bloemfontein.
“We could have played him if we wanted to but we decided not to risk him. He has been taking part in full practice sessions for about a week now,” Drotske added.
“The only discomfort he has is a little irritation when he kicks, but that hasn’t bothered him much and he will be ready for the start of the season.”
12 Feb 2013, 21:16 pm
HG being a dripping marshmallow here again
I take him to a place he will see hard coloureds
Take no vokken prisoners
12 Feb 2013, 21:24 pm
@Dawn-263:
> I take him to a place he will see hard coloureds
Mitchells Plain G.ay club?
Capesaders club annual beach picnic?
13 Feb 2013, 07:52 am
@bokfan1-248:
No, Ruyterwacht is the area in Cape Town where the Etzebeths were from. That was in the 80/90′s
13 Feb 2013, 07:57 am
@stormersboy-250:
Yes you right. Cliffie was the other name I couldn’t remember. Then there was the young brother. I think he was a deputy at the Sheriff of the Court.
I have not heard of Ryan. He and Eben brothers? Does he also play rugby?
13 Feb 2013, 08:02 am
@WP-Forever-255:
@stormersboy-256:
I wont ask what happened, but sorry to hear.
13 Feb 2013, 10:24 am
@stormer in a teacup-214: think he probably would have gone to play a bit of club rugby for the money if he had made it to the last WC but he has been robbed of that opportunity.
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