Griquas edge Kings

Griquas edge Kings

Griquas got the win but Southern Kings Director of Rugby Alan Solomons got questions answered in his team’s final Super Rugby pre-season outing.

Griquas scored late to win 30-27 and Solomons told Keo.co.za on the balance of performance the right team got the winning result.

‘Pre-season matches are about more than the result but every player and team wants a winning one,’ he said. ‘We did not get enough ball to enforce our way of play and all credit to the effort of Griquas. They dominated the lineout and denied us a platform. It is hard to play any game without ball from set piece and if the boys didn’t know that they certainly will now.’

The Kings historic Super Rugby debut is Solomons’ focus and he said bigger than the result in Port Elizabeth was that captain Luke Watson and lock Steven Sykes got through the match in what was their first appearance after lengthy injury lay-offs.

‘We gained from those objectives in that the players returning from injury got the necessary hit out, but in any sport the objective is to win. That we did not get and we did not deserve a winning result. There has never been any illusion about the challenge in Super Rugby proper but we will be in a position to field a match squad close to full strength. That wasn’t looking possible a few weeks ago.

‘It is a credit to our medical and conditioning staff and to the desire of the players.’

Solomons said he was thankful for the commitment of Griquas and how important the match would be in the mental preparation for the historic season opener in a week.

‘Griquas approached it like it was a Super Rugby match and it was the physical and mental preparation you can’t replicate at training. We’ve got lots to work with in the next week. But take nothing away from Griquas. They came here to win and they did so.’

The Kings play the Force in Port Elizabeth to start their Super Rugby history.

By Mark Keohane


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  • 601.skopdiekan: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-596:

    SR results 1998 – 2012

    @victoriabok-595: why were they so poor if they had been playing SR rugby since before WC 1995

    In 96 they lost to Blues in the semis so they weren’t so kak then

    So what was the reason for their demise.. for the following 4 years after 1998?
    couldn’t be because of poor management surely not with all those blue eyed Tukkies business model students running the enterprise?

  • 602.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-600:

    Plascon Wol innie Hol trofee

  • 603.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-598: Dude the Bulls are South Africa’s most successful Super rugby team. Everyone knows that. You cannot deny the three titles. Semi-finals, finals, win/loss – all that doesn’t matter. The only place it matters is in Cape Town.

  • 604.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-601: The Bulls started to struggle because military conscription and the way people were drafted to the Police changed. Pretoria Weermag and Pretoria Polisie were big forces in club rugby.

    They almost totally disappeared because the fat, lazy, corrupt slobs that we have now only follow football.

  • 605.skopdiekan: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-598: consistently Stormers are best SA franchise .. same as Crusaders are best consistent NZ franchise. Even though Crusaders finished last one year when Auckland won early on..

    Bulls got some lucky breaks with ref’s in their back pocket at home in certain years and avoided some tough knockout games and pulled through with some home town refereeing.

    Overall Stormers still most consistent SA finisher don’t matter whether they didn’t finish top.. Sharks also never finished top.. so only bragging rights Bulls have is they got lucky home town decisions to win outright 3 times at home.

    Sharks got zero bragging rights over Stormers because overall Stormers are better and neither team have gone on to win the entire thingamajig outright.

    Only Bulls and TVL have managed to do that from SA teams in almost 2 decades of SR rugby

  • 606.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-601:

    > So what was the reason for their demise.. for the following 4 years after 1998?

    They added a new section to the stands and funded it by selling seasons tickets and “losies” for the next fouror five years at a cheap price. It seemd a good idea at the time, that was the time when interest rates were sky high remember?

    Then rugby players turned pro and they didn’t have the cashflow to pay them so a lot left and they had a kak coach as well

  • 607.S_K: Reply to this comment

    Careldup suddenly a sharks supporter?Typical delusional guppies.Sharkslover still a dramatical guppy it seems.!

  • 608.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-605: Sharks did finish top idiot. Go look again.

    Bulls have won 3 titles – they are South Africa’s most successful Super rugby outfit. Your moffies can’t even win a home semi-final. Twice in a row – no other team has such a kak record at home in super rugby playoffs.

  • 609.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-606: The oke exposes himself from time to time with his lack of knowledge and inaccurate comments. He is just here to get a reaction. Knows nothing about rugby.

  • 610.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-607: Whoever he supports – he certainly didn’t do a lot of effort encourage his son to stay with WP now did he ? Carel Du Plessis son playing for the Sharks….can you imagine !

  • 611.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-607: Wasn’t he called the princess of wings ?

  • 612.S_K: Reply to this comment

    How did you reach that conclusion ,dusty.Conscription ended long before that.

  • 613.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-612: Yes but the makeup of the military didn’t change overnight.

  • 614.S_K: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-610: that is no problem,dusty.wp don’t owe careldup any favours.His son had to go where he can get game time .He probably would have been way down the pecking order.in any case I have never seen the boytjie play so I am not gonna say much about his abilities.

  • 615.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-614: Great. I will remember your post when you moffies have a little ***** session about the Sharks buying your players.

  • 616.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-614: Personally I think he didn’t like the idea of the jeans they sell in the mens clothing stores in Cape Town with knee pads and a zip in the back.

  • 617.skopdiekan: Reply to this comment

    Crusaders – 67% win rate
    Blues – 58% win rate
    Brumbies – 58% win rate
    Stormers – 53% win rate
    Waratahs – 52% win rate
    Hurricanes – 51% win rate
    Sharks – 51% win rate
    Reds – 49% win rate
    Chiefs – 49% win rate
    Bulls – 48% win rate
    Highlanders – 46% win rate
    Force – 30% win rate
    Cheetahs – 27% win rate
    Lions – 23% win rate
    Rebels – 22% win rate

    that is how the SR win loss cookie breaks down 1998 – 2012

  • 618.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-617: Hey d00s kop…..we dont give a f#ck about the win rate – get it into your neanderthalic skull ! Nobody rates f0kk0l by the amount of battles you won – its about who won the war.

    Order the teams by titles won gwar neus.

  • 619.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-555:

    Ja laat waai

    Het jy weer bruinbere in Ikea gelos?

  • 620.nortierd: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-616:
    eina, bliksem, dit is n low blow ( en nie die blow waaraan jy dink nie)
    :-)

  • 621.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-613:

    Ek onthou nog in die laat 80′s was daar nie eintlig rugby voor omtrent Mei maand nie

    Hulle het in Februarie or Maart altyd ‘n Norrd Transvaal teen SA Weermag wedstryd gehad en die Bulle het swaargekry om teen hulle te wen want Weermag het vir Uli, Carel du Plessis en ‘n klomp ander Bokke in hulle span gehad

  • 622.nortierd: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-616:
    Herrinner my aan die storie van die dislexic m0ffie wat baie excited was vandag, gedink dis Vaselines Day

  • 623.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @nortierd-620:

    > eina, bliksem

    Wat’s fout?

    Het iemand die zip afgetrek in jou ‘n lid van die Star Trek generation gemaak?

    To boldly go where no man has gone before?

  • 624.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @nortierd-622:

    Granty?

  • 625.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-619: Nee – nooit in IKEA nie. Ek het al tuidens ‘n telefoon konferensie gepoep (ek het vergeet om my lyn te mute) toe vra een van die mense of iemand ‘n vraag gevra het :-D

  • 626.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-621: Ja – ek het kontakte in die Bulle gehad, en die grootste rede wat hulle my kon gee was die Weermag en Polisie spanne wat skielik begin verdwyn het. Hulle het ‘n klomp harde spelers van Pretoria Polisie en Weermag gekry in hulle dag. Skielik het hulle net Tuks gehad, en in daai dae was Tuks maar hond kak.

    Toe gaan coach Naas vir Tuks en dinge het so bietjie beter geword. Ek het alle respek vir die Bulle. Vir die uithou vermoe wat hulle gehad het om hulself uit daai ‘long drop’ te kry. Hulle kon net sovel die pad van die Leeus geloop het. Hulle was nie ver weg nie ! Maar hulle het terug gekom en SA trots gemaak.

  • 627.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-625:

    Ek speel nou die aand op XBox live RB6V2 saam met die ouens en gesels nog so en laat waai met ‘n grote

    Ek **** net hoe stil raak hulle, die mikrofoon het dit baie goed opgetel

  • 628.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-627: :-D Was dit uitlanders ? Ons ope poep kultuur is nie almal se koppie tee nie.

  • 629.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-626:

    Ek het in die boek

    http://www.kalahari.com/books/Blou-Bulle/632/33052410.aspx

    gelees hoe hulle uit geld gehardloop het daardie tyd

  • 630.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-628:

    Amerikaners

  • 631.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-629: Ek stry nie – dit was sekerlik een van die redes. Ek onthou hoe die Bulle gesukkel het met geld.

  • 632.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-630: LOL ! :-D

  • 633.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-625:

    Die ergste is die wetters wat die toilet beskyt, hulle wilgerboom hom dat hy erger lyk as die een in Trainspotting

  • 634.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-630: Wat is RB6V2 ?

  • 635.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-628:

    Die Chinees wat saam met my werk laat waai ook

  • 636.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-633: Jissus…..was jy ooit by Oppikoppi ?

  • 637.skopdiekan: Reply to this comment

    Stormers finished top in 2012 overall
    Bulls and Sharks sneaked into play offs in 4th and 5th

    Stormers finished 2nd in 2011 lost home semi to Crusaders
    Sharks finished 6th and lost away semi in NZ

    2010 Bulls finished top Stormers 2nd
    Bulls won the final rigged by the ref.

    2009 Bulls finished top and won the home final

    Stormers finished 4th in 2008 contesting a semi

    Sharks finished top in 2007 when they met Bulls in final who finished 2nd overall but Bulls won the final

    Bulls finished 4th in 2006 beaten in play offs

    Sharks finished stone last in 2005 below Lions who finished 2nd last

    Stormers finished 3rd in 2004 made play offs

    Sharks finished 2nd last in 2003 above Lions who finished last

    Sharks finished 2nd in 2001 when Bulls finished last

    Sharks finished stone last in 2000 behind Bulls who finished 2nd last

    Stormers finished 2nd overall in 1999

    Overall Stormers better finishers than Sharks by some distance
    both contested 1 final but Stormers made more play offs than Sharks and have a better overall finishing rate than both Sharks and Bulls.

  • 638.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-635: As jy sy poep kon snuif so dit seker na hond of kat geruik het :-D

  • 639.S_K: Reply to this comment

    Don’t be a Trollope,dusty.I don’t give a toss whether you sign up all the school kids.Did not see any other stormer fan complained about the sharks buying up EP school boys.

  • 640.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-637: Correction. Stormers finished top in 2012 overall – Sharks played in the final. The South African team that lasted the longest.

  • 641.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-639: Huh ? How long have you been around ? Have you read your fellow WP supporter, Skop’s comments ? Obviously not.

  • 642.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-637: Sharks have played in more semi-finals and finals than the Stormers.

  • 643.S_K: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-639: should read trilkop,dusty. Mobile spellchecker . You would understand ne? :D

  • 644.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @S_K-643: Ja – I got it :-D

  • 645.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @skopdiekan-637: Sharks also have a better conversion rate of semi-finals to finals. Also head to head, the Sharks have the upper hand over the Stormers on wins between the two teams if I am not mistaken.

    Despite all that, the Bulls are still SAs most succesful Super rugby outfit.

    The Stompies still have to win 4 winners trophies at a minimum and hope the Bulls dont win any more in order to take that position.

  • 646.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-634:

    ‘n Ou game wat ons nog co-op speel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLrBlVQbn-o

    Ons was vir die nuwe een wat nog beter gaan wees

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1pFFBUycSM

  • 647.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-636:

    Nee maar my pêl het my vertel

    Hy’t twee ouens geken wat meer as ‘n week voor die tyd al daar gaan kamp(en al die padblokkades gemis het) het en baie zol saamgevat het wat hulle daar verkoop het

  • 648.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-638:

    Nee hy’s ok, die voru voor hom het vis gevreet wat jou wou laat Luke het

    Wou altyd sê Sies man maak toe jou bene

  • 649.Dusky: Reply to this comment

    @victoriabok-646: Ek wag ook vir Patriots :-)

  • 650.victoriabok: Reply to this comment

    @Dusky-649:

    Ken jy die game?

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