Plumtree shows Bekker respect
26 Feb 2013
John Plumtree singled out Andries Bekker’s lineout ability as just one of the Stormers strengths.
In a midweek press conference, Plumtree was in a good mood, joking with journalists ahead of a match that could be definitive to who wins the South African Conference.
Plumtree said there were few injury concerns after the win against the Cheetahs and added the match was a chance to redress the result of last year’s Currie Cup final when the Stormers (in the guise of Western Province) won in Durban. He said the Cup could only be won back in a different competition at a later stage of the year.
For now the emphasis was on Super Rugby and Plumtree said his team’s lineout would be under pressure against the likes of Andries Bekker. He was comfortable that Sharks hookers Craig Burden and Kyle Cooper performed well against the Cheetahs, but he felt the Stormers lineout would provide an even sterner examination.
Plumtree had everyone laughing when asked about the impact and importance of Pat Lambie, saying that the player is not that important and is just the posterboy of the Sharks. He did go on to say that an in-form Pat Lambie is the best thing the Sharks could ask for, and the fact that he has the experienced Frans Steyn outside him, reduces the pressure.
By Richard Ferguson
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26 Feb 2013, 22:50 pm
And absolutely correct Transie highly unlikely that Cheeky met with parliament after the weekend matches more than likely he offered this explanation prior to the game. But as per usual the usual Sharkishits and BullShitters suspicious suspects will latch onto every and any morsel of skinner skande to try slander and show what a racist Cheeky is and how perfectly pure and unspoiled and nonviolent non racist these magnates of purebred virtuosity are.
26 Feb 2013, 22:51 pm
@victoriabok-146: haha imagine if a western country tried to influence one of their teams, like Man U or Barcelona, about team racial composition? They’d be branded….. RACISTS!
26 Feb 2013, 22:53 pm
racism is evil.
26 Feb 2013, 22:55 pm
the kings are evil.
26 Feb 2013, 22:57 pm
@Transformation-148:
Poor taste and judgement from the newspaper.
@skopdiekan-150:
Skop, if it was the Burger then it’s unfair to label all the Shark and Bull supporters as the culprits.
Most of us on here have been trying to figure out when the alleged comments were made and why it was published today.
You must appreciate that there are some genuinely nice Sharks and Bulls bloggers as well?
26 Feb 2013, 22:57 pm
@skopdiekan-150: It makes no difference whether he said it before or after the players played their hearts out – it is still a kick in the teeth, is it not?
26 Feb 2013, 23:00 pm
Here is this white pompous racist telling himself that racism is evil
Have you ever seen a more ludicrous piece of racist garbage agreeing with itself about what a racist prick it is?
26 Feb 2013, 23:00 pm
skopishit is evil.
26 Feb 2013, 23:00 pm
@nortierd-117: is sergeal already developed? he has played just one game surrounded by experienced players.
you reckon the Kings would be well served playing the Force with their academy boys & getting trounced by 50?
26 Feb 2013, 23:01 pm
who says it is white?
aint this skopishit white character possessing the biggest chip on his shoulder?
26 Feb 2013, 23:02 pm
skopishit = racist evil filth.
26 Feb 2013, 23:05 pm
This racist piece of sharkishit slime clinging to its racist heritage and calling Kings rugby franchise evil.
This white privilege piece of slime is the epitome of evil its cn’ts like these who should never be allowed to retain their symbols of apartheid it’s slime like these that do not deserve to be afforded their holy white religious indoctrination of evil they cling to.
26 Feb 2013, 23:06 pm
@nortierd-154: Thank you and well said.
As for player developement, there will always be players that will stay in their home province and others that wont, it is delusional that some think that all black players for example will return to the EC because Cheeky thinks or says so, or who ever, it is not always Cheeky saying this.
Where I agree with Cheeky however is that SARU did stuff up and were very slow in making their decisions regarding the Kings playing SR, and also you cannot develope a union in 1 year.
What this means for me even if the Kings lost every match from here on in and get relegated?? they still might have made huge progress as a union and in player growth etc, so how will their relegation benifit them???
26 Feb 2013, 23:06 pm
@Transformation-158:
When did I say that?
The only post I can recall where I mentioned Seargal is when I mentioned that if the Ndungane twins or Mvovo had played, he would not have gotten an opportunity to show his worth.
I didn’t wish the Kings to be trounced by the Force or by anyone.
I admitted that I picked the wrong team to win by 12 on Saturday, but I also admitted that I was not sorry about getting that result wrong.
26 Feb 2013, 23:06 pm
who says it is white? jumping to conclusions? how offensive to be labelled a colour!
skopishit reaffirming what a racist it is.
26 Feb 2013, 23:08 pm
@Transformation-158: the point of the Kings is to DEVELOP blackies. Sergeal is being DEVELOPED.
Black mercenaries are not the answer.
26 Feb 2013, 23:09 pm
@victoriabok-146: FYI the English FA does answer to their parliament
as do the French rugby & Football unions/associations. recall mad bernie traded his tracksuit for a parliamentary seat – minister of sport.
26 Feb 2013, 23:10 pm
@Sharks_are_gonna_get_you-162:
The relegation axe will help no side.
Even if the Lions do make it back in 2014 they will also be in the same boat as the Kings are now.
How can they contract new players or get investors if they might also be relegated again.
The Kings are right, they should have been given at least 3 years guaranteed.
26 Feb 2013, 23:10 pm
Mandela should have fckd you miserable little sharkishit rat in your miserable sharkishit colonial eye and forced the issue and taken your holy religious symbols of apartheid away from you then you can cry about what is evil and who is the devil incarnate. Miserable filthy pompous Sharkishit slime.
26 Feb 2013, 23:11 pm
@Transformation-166: on racial composition of their teams?????….. that would amount to racism (in normal societies), no?
26 Feb 2013, 23:11 pm
skopishit reaffirming his racist tendencies.
26 Feb 2013, 23:12 pm
racism is evil.
very evil.
26 Feb 2013, 23:14 pm
kings perpetuating race.
very, very racist and very, very evil.
26 Feb 2013, 23:16 pm
cheeky is the evil grand dragon ku klux klan purple robed grand master.
26 Feb 2013, 23:17 pm
jammer nortie…that reply was for ShaunB…
26 Feb 2013, 23:23 pm
@Sharks_are_gonna_get_you-162: i don’t think Cheeky or anyone for that matter has ever said “ALL black players won’t leave if the Kings play super rugby”
the undeniable fact though is that Super Rugby contracts are a lure that have influence many players to go to even remote places like Kimberley as there’s a chance to make the Cheetahs team!
the Sharks academy is not the attraction, playing for the Sharks super rugby team is.
26 Feb 2013, 23:24 pm
Mandela should have wrote the Springbok out of existence, that filthy evil symbol of filthy white racist separate development and apartheid. Why the fck he bent over backwards to accommodate and FORGIVE cn’ts like this filthy white colonial piece of trash to continue to protect and promote their separatist
ideology in a sport that from its inception
26 Feb 2013, 23:26 pm
@Transformation-174:
All good:-D
26 Feb 2013, 23:26 pm
@nortierd-177:
Messed up my smiley face
26 Feb 2013, 23:27 pm
Designed to maintain a separate code of sport for a separatist section of a minority racist population.
26 Feb 2013, 23:28 pm
@ShaunB-169: @ShaunB-169: act daft…why in 94 was there a need for this country to be transformed in its entirety?
that need still exists & it is race based as the inverse discriminated on the basis of race. if you have another brilliant foolproof solution, go to luthuli house & trade it for billions
26 Feb 2013, 23:33 pm
‘transformation’ is racist.
nothing racist is good.
26 Feb 2013, 23:34 pm
@victoriabok-146:
For two simple reasons:
1. Prima facie there appears to be fraud of Government policy on transformation in rugby;
2. This ongoing saga (Kings/Watsons/Lions/SARU) has become a festering sore with allegations & counter allegations being flung ad nauseam – so lets ascertain the facts & then make decisions based on the facts – lets not fear & shirk the facts. The facts will set us free.
Cricket is also a business – Hansie Cronje & his fellow swindlers had to face a commission. A judge also recently investigated cricket & made recommendations to the sports ministry. Why not rugby?
Spain & the UK? Well did you see Rupert Murdoch & his son being grilled in an enquiry in the UK? And what about last year’s enquiry in London re the fraudulent libor rate fixing which ultimately led to Barclays’ CEO, Bob Diamond resigning.What about BP’s offshore oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the inquisitorial grilling of the CEO, Tony Hayward, & his ultimate resignation. What about the US Congressional enquiry into Toyota’s Prius breaking problems? What about Bank CEOs being grilled by Congressional/Senate Committees about the 2007-2009 financial crisis.
What about TODAY?
Did you watch Senator Elizabeth Warren grill Ben Bernanke in a senate hearing? I had never before seen Bernanke as flustered & making such concessions.
The subjects of these enquiries were also BUSINESSES. Have you heard of Competition Commission enquiries? Businesses (including sports business) are not Royal Game – they operate within parameters ultimately determined by Government & they have to comply, failing which they face censure, penalties or worse. And that applies all over – except maybe in la-la land?
26 Feb 2013, 23:35 pm
there is no need for ‘transformation’.
people are free to make of themselves what they will.
if you are good at something, you will succeed.
racism sucks, only people like skopishit still hang on to their racist ways.
26 Feb 2013, 23:35 pm
The ANC should demand that rugby either become fully integrated within the next 2 years or else it become outlawed as an international sport code.
Then ShaunB can pack up his colonial knapsack and fck off to Goolongwana land with his rancid white racist pals like Brumbies boy and the rest of the Sharkishits and BullShitters.
26 Feb 2013, 23:35 pm
@ShaunB-165: the point of the Kings is to develop rugby in the EC not for “blackies”. the undeniable fact that does not sit well with most is that the same EC is the ‘home’ of rugby played by people of colour.
micheal killian – muir college, mighty elephants – was brought back home but is currently injured. he is an EC boy & part of the Kings mission…
“bring them back home”
26 Feb 2013, 23:36 pm
@skopdiekan-176:
It’s sad that you see it like that.
In this age of professionalism and big pay cheques I suppose the emblem has in any case taken a back step to the money associated with representing the Springboks.
I wish to believe that ALL aspiring young players want to be Springboks for the honor of representing their country and for proving to himself that he is the best in the country in his position and has reached the pinnacle of his sport, but I think there is more to it in the modern day rugby.
If they played with a protea on their chest would it have made a difference?
Same money and same glory for the player.
26 Feb 2013, 23:38 pm
@Transformation-158:
> you reckon the Kings would be well served playing the Force with their academy boys & getting trounced by 50?
Yes, and they’ll get gametime and visit the Antipodes as well
The Kings will get their half-a-centuries stacked up against them soon enough
26 Feb 2013, 23:38 pm
@Angostura-182: hear hear
26 Feb 2013, 23:40 pm
@nortierd-186: >If they played with a protea on their chest would it have made a difference?
Well, it would have helped Puke to keep his lunch down – apparently.
26 Feb 2013, 23:40 pm
@Transformation-185: lol if skopishit can say whiteys then blackies must be fine no?
check the racist skopishit now saying the government should ban a sport! first find a hitler or a stalin to rule and then we are there. what a senile snoek moron!
26 Feb 2013, 23:41 pm
@victoriabok-187: is that how Heyneke Meyer developed the Bulls, take youngsters & allow them to get demolished? hehe you could be on your way to explaining why the Bulls were the 1st team ALL their SR games in a season.
26 Feb 2013, 23:44 pm
@kaksioek-189:
That comment did not sit well by me as well.
My feeling, and it’s just my opinion, is that if he felt so strong about that particular issue he should have a) withdrawn , but no player I believe would want to give up playing for the highest honor, or b) he should have donated his match fee to a charity he deemed worth.
But to have accepted both the honor and the money and then afterwards make those comments didn’t sit well with me.
But that is old news now, he has carried on and so will I.
26 Feb 2013, 23:47 pm
@Transformation-166:
For fraud, match fixing etc, criminal matters which falls under the auspices of the State
Not about team selection or how to run their business
26 Feb 2013, 23:49 pm
Rugby in this country is racist it has been racist since inception and is still racist therefore rugby cannot be good it is riddled with racism through its core and hence rugby can be classified as evil
should be banned as a perpetuating racism promotion.
26 Feb 2013, 23:50 pm
@victoriabok-187:
VB
There is a big likelihood that a couple of SR sides will go down by 50 or more.
Judging by round 2 some of the NZ sides might get more against some Aussie sides and even the Cheetahs or Stormers ( if they continue playing like they did) might get pasted by the Chiefs, Blues or Crusaders.
26 Feb 2013, 23:51 pm
@nortierd-192: Particularly after his daddy had called in every possible favour to get him shoehorned into Jake’s squad. It’s laughable.
26 Feb 2013, 23:51 pm
living is racist lets ban that too.
26 Feb 2013, 23:52 pm
@skopdiekan-194: So naturally you will be boycotting it henceforth?
26 Feb 2013, 23:55 pm
@nortierd-195: haha nortier
the Stormers will be just fine – just wait & see – an abundance of talent daarso
Jeez, one AWAY loss in SR is no reason for pessimism
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