Jesse the giant; Kurtley the crab
27 Feb 2013
Brumbies fullback Jessie Mogg statistically is among the stars in the early stages of this season’s Super Rugby.
The full list of all the relevant statistics is listed on the Sydney Morning Herald’s Rugbyheaven website.
Mogg, in points, kicking metres and running metres has had a huge impact in the Brumbies two tournament wins.
The statistics will have greater relevance once all the teams have played more than just a single match, but already Wallabies utility back Kurtley Beale is being consistent with his strongest and weakest aspects of his game.
Beale and fellow Wallabies playmaker Quade Cooper lead the offloads in tackle count with five, but Beale also leads the most missed tackles with 10 in just two matches.
Sharks captain Frans Steyn showed strength in the tackle with three offloads in tackle situations against the Cheetahs and Morne Steyn already is among those making an impression with an outstanding tactical kicking performance against the Stormers.
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27 Feb 2013, 00:49 am
I have seen a few football teams post their harlem shakes and what do the bulls post – “oh stand, stand by me oh wont you stand stand by me!!!”
Suppose you cant blame the bulls for breaking out!!
27 Feb 2013, 01:13 am
@wallabie.-1: its all part of the ongoing “emasculation” process happening in Pretoria
first pink shirts
second, singing as one big chorus
third – their time of months will line up and be in harmony
its all to usher in their new name, the pretoria heifers
27 Feb 2013, 02:31 am
Jesse Mogg… plucked from club rugby obscurity by the magician Jake White… to Wallaby in one season!
27 Feb 2013, 06:18 am
jake is no magician, easy with the hyperbole.
27 Feb 2013, 06:20 am
i see jj engelbrecht in the new Men’s Health…following in hougaard’s shoes.
27 Feb 2013, 06:59 am
@Transformation-4:
Not my description, directly from the Australian press…
The point remains… and you can add Tomane, Palmer, Nic White, Hooper to that list…
27 Feb 2013, 07:00 am
@bryce_in_oz-3: He is a class player, gots a good left foot on him as well.
27 Feb 2013, 07:03 am
@bryce_in_oz-6: Jake has done wonders with that Brumbies team, especially after they lost so much good experienced players like George Smith, Adam Ashley Cooper, etc
27 Feb 2013, 07:04 am
straying from rugby for a moment, regarding OP and the RS murder i really found the private memorial service he hosted to honour/mourn RS a little weird and unsettling.
did he have the right to do this and was it with the consent of her family? i might be wrong but i cannot say i have ever come across anything similar to this? i also could not shake the feeling that it is all ‘seemingly’ stage managed? as much as may be made of the fact that he supposedly loved her deeply and all that, they were only romantically involved for about two months?
and was this information uncovered by the media or perhaps ‘leaked’ to the press intentionally? what is going on here? i find it all a little strange.
my gut is saying something’s not right here and i cannot shake this feeling.
27 Feb 2013, 07:11 am
@bryce_in_oz-6:
@Sasuke-8:
i think you are jumping the gun somewhat with all this Jake White hype.
i will save my opinions for closer to the seasons end.
just my 2 cents worth.
27 Feb 2013, 07:12 am
@Sasuke-7:
He’s also visibly bigger and faster this season… on consecutive weeks now he’s burned both Ione and then J’OC on the outside…
27 Feb 2013, 07:23 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-10:
What hype?
No need to hype any of what he has achieved with his out-of-the-box thinking for the Brumbies… rugby results aside… these are the ‘facts’…
-Re-ignited the ACT club rugby scene by banning all contracted players from repping anywhere else other than locally
-Second season now Brumbies have started their conditioning season 3 months before the rest
-His player-specific nutrition cafe and take-home program now in second season
-5 players were plucked from outside of Super-rugby and made the Wallaby training squad in their first season.
-Stole David Pocock from right under the noses of my Rebels (when contracts were all but signed.
-Brought Rathbone back (now Smith) to rapturous applause from one of ACT’s biggest crowds in years…
And I could go on…
27 Feb 2013, 07:25 am
I have Jesse in my fantasy team, racking up the points.
27 Feb 2013, 07:29 am
@bryce_in_oz-6: gee wiz, after bleating about how injury ridden they were now we have to hear how all these aus new wallabies were magically ‘discovered’ by jake
aus played brett sheehan @ 9 last year, that should tell you all you need to know about doling out Test caps.
27 Feb 2013, 07:32 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-9: his UK publicist – the former editor of the Sun tabloid – orchestrated the whole thing.
27 Feb 2013, 07:34 am
only in America
Piers Morgan
@ piersmorgan
6h
Tonight I go head-to-head with the
Virginia pizza restaurant owner who
gives discounts to customers carrying
guns. It gets lively. #CNN 9pm
27 Feb 2013, 07:40 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-9:
i have that same feeling bakkies. sadly i dont think we will ever hear the whole truth.
27 Feb 2013, 08:06 am
@bryce_in_oz-12:
forgive me but perhaps i dont understand hype or success anymore these days.
so this guy’s great because:
1. he got his squad to start training a little earlier than normal.
2. is making his contracted fringe players play locally.
3. has gotten a nutritionist (sp?) to prepare menus for players (is this new?).
4. bought a big name player (i’ll give you that) who is half game changer half penalty liability (he’s won them games but also lost them games).
5. ressurected a 30 something year old former wallabie’s career who happens to be highly injury prone and certainly is not considered a ‘great’.
ok, the “5 players were plucked from outside of Super-rugby and made the Wallaby training squad in their first season.” is good, i’ll give him that.
ok, well good to know. i would like to think that winning cups and titles should count for something but hey… what do i know…
@Transformation-15:
well that explains a lot.
i think its a little trashy and tasteless really.
or at the least weird and unsettling.
@mamma_lou-17:
terrible and sad really, ML.
27 Feb 2013, 08:11 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-18:
I saw the layout of his house on the news here, clearly he’s lying.
27 Feb 2013, 08:12 am
@bryce_in_oz-12:
what i’m saying is i dont consider these achievements really in the proper sense of the word.
they are innovations which, while laudable, are only to be judged in the context of whether he ‘achieves’ any success as the coach/manager of a rugby team.
if he wins nothing but gets them further up the ladder than they have been for a while this would also not qualify as an achievement worthy of publically lauding for me.
27 Feb 2013, 08:14 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-10: For us it’s 2 cents worth, Bakks.
For you the price is Aus$3!!!
27 Feb 2013, 08:18 am
@NZINCHINA-19:
i think there are very few people who believe his version of events.
its still terible and sad all the same.
27 Feb 2013, 08:25 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-22:
I think RS’s family has being trying maintain an air of dignity about the whole thing.
But the gloves are about to come off.
27 Feb 2013, 08:26 am
I saw Searching for Sugarman last night.
Great “feelgood” documentary.
After watching it I immediately went on to wiki to find out more.
Apparently Rodriguez is well known in NZ and Australia as well and toured Australia in 1979, 1981, 2007, with the Mark Gillespie Band and Midnight Oil, and for the East Coast Blues & Roots Festival.
This was never mentioned in the documentary and contradicts the theory that nobody ever knew him outside of South Africa.
Also in the documentary he is depicted as living a very humble life in Detroit but the homes of daughters in the background looks “middle class”.
27 Feb 2013, 08:27 am
@BrumbiesBoy-21:
hehehe
i hope you still have the gees come end of season, BB.
you know what they say, whether in rands or Ozzie dollars, ‘talk is cheap’.
27 Feb 2013, 08:33 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-18:
He clearly built the foundations in that first season (including several outside-the-box methods), then took the youngest and most inexperienced side in the entire competition from 13th to missing the play-offs by a point… next step the conference trophy and making the play-offs… all that in two seasons… but who’s getting ahead of themselves… ACT stadium was 40% fuller than it’s been in several seasons in their opening game…
27 Feb 2013, 08:35 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-18: Say what you like about Jake, and many do, but the guy is a very good coach andf technical analyst,
What amazes me is that the Brumbies didn’t have a lot of that stuff sorted before!?
27 Feb 2013, 08:36 am
@Jeraldjay-24:
Rodriguez was very big here in Australia… not one Aussie mate (my age) had not heard of him (nor did a single one think he was dead)… greater exposure to more music in Aus than we had in ‘isolated’ old RSA back in those days…
27 Feb 2013, 08:38 am
@gunther-23:
if they did fight back i would understand but personally i think they should conitnue to maintain their dignity and let the law take its course.
27 Feb 2013, 08:42 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-22:
Including his own lawyers.
27 Feb 2013, 08:45 am
@bryce_in_oz-26:
@stormersboy-27:
fair enough, i hear you both.
good luck to him and hopefully he will achieve the success that matters most.
27 Feb 2013, 08:48 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-29:
They’ve hired a PI.
I expect more to follow.
The nationall enquirer (I know) has come out with the story that she was pregnant and thats the source of the fight.
Joh.
27 Feb 2013, 08:48 am
@stormersboy-27:
I wasn’t a believer after his poor Bokke record but he’s done a great job at the Brumbies in a very short time, the Aus conference looks very weak this year Jakie should make the playoffs.
27 Feb 2013, 08:50 am
@bryce_in_oz-12:
” -His player-specific nutrition cafe and take-
home program now in second season”
jake white knows nothing about nutrition
The changes aren’t just limited
to on field coaches, with a new head strength
and conditioning coach in Dean Benton
joining the club. Benton has previously
worked with Jones in the Wallabies set
up and has also worked with the
Brisbane Broncos NRL club and comes
highly recommended.
Benton doesn’t just look after the gym
side of things and has helped the club
employ a chef that will look after the
players breakfast and lunch needs with
specially prepared meals. Bentons
association with the Australian Institute
of Sport, which is based in Canberra,
has helped come up with nutritional
meals and will go a long way to getting
the playing squad in the best shape
they can be for the rigors of Super
Rugby.
benton was recommended to the Brumbies by Jones & not Jake.
27 Feb 2013, 08:51 am
@bryce_in_oz-28:
Hey his mystic made for a great documentary, which won the Oscar and put a positive spin on South Africa.
27 Feb 2013, 08:52 am
@gunther-32:
At the very least he’ll be convicted for man slaughter, how long do you get in the clink for that in SA?
27 Feb 2013, 08:54 am
@Jeraldjay-24:
Youre forgetting that althought the doccy was made recently, the events that lead to those two Saffas ‘finding’ him were actually way back in the early 90s which then lead to him performing in SA in 98. That is the time frame we are talking about. During the end of the Apartheid years.
Rodriguez toured Aus and NZ in 79 and 81 during the height of Apartheid when there was no internet and the news media was heavily censored
.
There is no way that an artist singing anti establishment songs while touring with a band that was pro aboriginal rights(midnight oil) would have been heard about in SA. That sort of news would never have got through the censors.
So to those two Saffas, from whos perspective the doccy is told, the story is absolutely 100% cold fact.
27 Feb 2013, 08:55 am
@NZINCHINA-33: He’s not a miracle worker as some have touted, but as coaches go he had a goal and that was to win the WC which he did achieve, and he’s doing a great job with the Brumbies who couldn’t seem to get their act together.
He can be a bot outspoken and so he rubs some up the wrong way but there’s no denying his ability
27 Feb 2013, 08:57 am
@John Galt-37: I saw the original story years ago, inspirational then,
27 Feb 2013, 08:58 am
@gunther-32:
oh dear god, i hope that isn’t true (the pregnancy angle). there is just one more sordid detail after the other surfacing from this story. i also read about rape allegations, in some or other tabloid, which i found just as disturbing.
what the hell do they want to use the Pacific Islander for..?..
27 Feb 2013, 08:59 am
@NZINCHINA-36:
His briefs will go for culpable homicide.
They’ll be hoping for no time.
27 Feb 2013, 09:00 am
@gunther-32:
pregnant by another man?
this whole thing is crazy.
27 Feb 2013, 09:01 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-42:
who knows bakkies.
27 Feb 2013, 09:02 am
@Transformation-34:
Jones?
‘Fast Eddie’?
this guy just pops up all over the place.
is there anything he hasn’t turned to gold.
27 Feb 2013, 09:03 am
@Transformation-34:
Err… you can google all you want but why not take it straight from the ACT’s mouth…
“Starting from scratch, White restructured the entire rugby program in Canberra, surrounding himself with industry pace-setters like Dean Benton (Athletic Performance Coach), Laurie Fisher (Forwards Coach), Stephen Larkham (Backs Coach) and Tony Thorpe (Team Manager). ”
There is no doubt his close-knit relationship with Jones (who is still on the pay-roll thanks to JW) helped secure the above… it’s not rocket science JW’s biggest asset is his ability to surround himself with the best… and that’s not just in rugby union…
He’s spent week’s with the Storm, weeks with the AFL, he’s been wooing the legendary Jon Donahu for quite some and is not stopping there…
27 Feb 2013, 09:08 am
@Jeraldjay-35:
Yep I enjoyed it all the same (downloaded a copy after Sundance)…
27 Feb 2013, 09:11 am
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-44: yeah eddie us behind george smith going to the brumbies from suntory too.
27 Feb 2013, 09:13 am
@bryce_in_oz-45: jake knows nothing about nutrition
27 Feb 2013, 09:16 am
thid is GREAT!!!!!!!!!
thank you multichoice
@ Kaunda Ntunja
Its official! We are getting our own show.
Igama lenqubo ngu – VULA NGUMBHOXO LO.
Starts on tuesday next week at 18h00 on SS4
#xhosacommentary #SSRugby
27 Feb 2013, 09:18 am
Skopskiet moaned constantly here for years saying how bad a coach Jake White is and that the 07 Boks were only good because of EJ’s influence etc. Skop was also adamant that JW would never coach any SR team to any glory whatsoever.
Skop knows his rugby. (seriously?)
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