Just why SARU sucks
18 Mar 2013
No one from the SARU executive attended the Kings Super Rugby debut. There was nothing official by way of congratulations. But the custodian of the game was quick to speak out when the Kings fielded three instead of two foreigners in the match 22 against the Chiefs.
The absolute desire to see the Kings fail from within the national executive is disgusting.
The haters of the Kings have a right of choice, opinion and expression of speech, however limited and demeaning it may be in articulation and expression, but the national governing body could surely show a bit more class instead of the obvious crassness we’ve seen since they were forced to include the Kings in Super Rugby when they cocked up a promise to the Lions that the Kings would be there because of a tournament expansion.
This franchise is the good news story in a unified South African rugby. It is the rainbow story, by choice and not construction. More than 100 000 of all cultures have attended the Kings three home games. Australians and New Zealanders can’t stop talking about the romance of the Kings’ debut month.
Every South African rugby writer who has made the trip to Port Elizabeth has written of the energy of the crowd, of the diverse cultural representation of the crowd, of the atmosphere at the ground and of the incredible spirit of those who play in the Kings’ jersey.
SARU’s national executive failed to see the significance of the Kings debut. All they see is the irritation of it. Typical of cowards there has been nothing but silence as the Kings have won the hearts of so many through the courage of their performance.
SARU hasn’t thanked them for adding a dimension to the game in South Africa but those who double as the custodians have demanded a report as to why the Kings fielded three foreigners in their match 22 against the Chiefs, when the SARU regulation limits all South African franchises to just two players.
The Kings, in their debut match, started with 15 South Africans and injury to captain Darron Nell in the warm-up of the Chiefs match forced a last minute call-up to a third foreigner.
SARU wants a report about it and were very quick to make public that they wanted this report.
They weren’t as quick to wish the Kings well prior to their first game and they weren’t rushing to congratulate the Kings on becoming the first tournament newcomer to ever win on debut.
The Kings represent the future of the game in this country. SARU is the relic that represents everything despicable about the past.
By Mark Keohane
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17 Mar 2013, 22:53 pm
RT @mark_keohane: Just why SARU sucks http://t.co/6vKIZo2W5Z via @sharethis National gov body represents everything despicable about rug …
17 Mar 2013, 22:59 pm
Dragon Kings
17 Mar 2013, 23:06 pm
Sad to see 90% of the knowledgeable posters have left this site, but I could see it coming 6 years ago. Retards like skop are still shouting their monotonous ignorance from the rooftops. Cute.
It seems Keo is pandering to the unwashed masses with hysterical ‘journalism’ as well…
17 Mar 2013, 23:06 pm
I don’t think it’s just SARU wanting them to fail, it’s just their standard incompetence and indifference
SARU can’t organize a screw a wh orehouse
The Kings have really showed some guts and although I still despise the Watsons and the politics they inject into rugby, the Kings performance on the field can’t be faulted
Solomon and Sexton really did well with the talent available and the limited time they had to work in
17 Mar 2013, 23:13 pm
@keocoza Keo, did the Kings not field 4 instead of 3 foreigners in the match 22 ?? (Daniel Adongo, Hadley Parks, Tomas Leonardi & Vergallo)
17 Mar 2013, 23:16 pm
@Die_Valk-3:
well, for what it’s worth its still the busiest rugby blog on the South African lanscape by a mile.
17 Mar 2013, 23:17 pm
The question is whether they broke the rules or not? Yes they did.
The rest of the article is just whitewash
17 Mar 2013, 23:24 pm
@Baylion-6:
in simple terms its basically how a kangaroo court gets going
or how witches got burned at the stake
or how a lynching got organised
just ‘holler’ at the top of your voice to the rest of the village/townsfolk all sort of scary pseudo facts about ‘evil, the devil & sin’ and drive them into a wild insane frenzy of irrational behaviour and, by its very logic, illogical and false acts.
yeeeeehaaaa!!!!
string em up, boys!
devils work!
witches i’s tells ya!
17 Mar 2013, 23:25 pm
with scant regard for the facts of the matter at hand
or the rule of law and propriety
17 Mar 2013, 23:26 pm
@RaaeqG @keocoza ok I’ve seen Adongo (Kenya) and Jaco Engels (Namibia) doesn’t qualify is a foreign players according to SARU.
17 Mar 2013, 23:26 pm
@victoriabok-4:
The thing is, that without the Watsons, they’d still be no Kings Franchise. Remember, that SARU promised the region one before the Watsons got involved and continually reneged on it.
17 Mar 2013, 23:30 pm
we do indeed
live in interesting times
17 Mar 2013, 23:31 pm
ok
that’s me for the night
cheers all
17 Mar 2013, 23:32 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-7:
Do you mean like constantly accusing the Kiwis of cheating?
17 Mar 2013, 23:33 pm
Over the last couple of weeks i have followed the articles written by you Mark . Last week i read how you praised Jake Whites coaching . This week i have read this article above . Hypocrisy should have been the title of your article about Jake White because only a couple of years earlier you were one of those journalists who criticised him and wanted him gone . Now you write “Australians and New Zealanders can’t stop talking about the romance of the Kings’ debut month.” . I am one of those South African who actually live here in Australia and am in the rugby circles and this is definitely not true . The political agenda behind the Kings introduction is what makes the rest of SA feel somewhat bitter about the Kings and if this is the future of South African rugby then the future seems to be quite dark . I suppose the same begs for the rest of the country though , that is why men like Jake White now use their professional expertise else where
17 Mar 2013, 23:33 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-11:
Cheers Bakkie, I’m off as well.
17 Mar 2013, 23:35 pm
@ryan.walkerranger-13:
Jake goes where the money is.
17 Mar 2013, 23:35 pm
Isn’t this Valk freak just the epitome of high society intelligence and astute rugby learning and self acclaimed upper established moral fiber that all self respecting rugby affiliated aficionado’s should be aspiring to emulate. Pompous prattassed geek.
17 Mar 2013, 23:38 pm
Why should he not , he is a professional coach and good at what he does
17 Mar 2013, 23:40 pm
@David-13:
@David-15:
cheers
17 Mar 2013, 23:40 pm
@ryan.walkerranger-13:
Could you explain what the political agenda actually was? Remember that Cheeky wasn’t originally involved, so what else was it?
17 Mar 2013, 23:40 pm
We all know SARU sucks. The mystery is how come we continue to keep having these incompetents running our game. The pyramid of power that puts these people in these positions needs to be shaken up because at SARU the dross definitely rises to the surface.
17 Mar 2013, 23:41 pm
Excuse the Keoesque alliteration.
17 Mar 2013, 23:46 pm
RT @mark_keohane: Just why SARU sucks http://t.co/6vKIZo2W5Z via @sharethis National gov body represents everything despicable about rug …
17 Mar 2013, 23:47 pm
@stormer in a teacup-21:
SARU is the provincial unions. The fact that there’s a President can’t disguise the fact that it’s the unions through their own presidents that actually crack the whip.
17 Mar 2013, 23:48 pm
The original political agenda was to have a South African side that represented South Africa as a whole . The initial purpose for including the Kings was that this side would have more players of colour representing the broader South Africa . However that does not seem to be happening . Also Keo forgets that it is early times for the Kings . People get tired of seeing there team loose . I would like to see how full the stadium is at the end of the season
17 Mar 2013, 23:53 pm
@i_love_u_bakkiesbotha-6: if you take out the handful of bloggers who post the same stuff over and over there’s not much that is of interest to fans of the game itself.
Keo is the “One flew over the cuckoos nest” of rugby blogs.
17 Mar 2013, 23:55 pm
#17 skoppie you bring a lot of critisism on yourself with all the ranting and raving you do on this website.
17 Mar 2013, 23:58 pm
Good for these Aussie exempt expatriates like this ryan walkabout ranger and his snotty nosed pal Jake White .. its how they roll follow the money down the yellow brick road.. what they possibly could know about what Kings rugby means to a multitude of genuine south Africans is pretty much next to zero from their faraway enclosure of their irreconcilable perspective.
18 Mar 2013, 00:00 am
@ryan.walkerranger-24:
You miss the more subtle and historic reason. The EC was the home of the original SARU, which was a non racial organisation that included players of all races and colours, although they were predominantly black.
To expect the Kings to initially field a team of mainly black players after all the top and young emerging ones had been already signed by other unions is rather naive.
18 Mar 2013, 00:16 am
Without naming and im not saying its any of the above users but some comments I read on this page are disgraceful and very naive.
The negativity that surrounds every post on this blog is unbelievable.
People cannot have discussions about rugby without becoming keyboard warriors and trying to insult another blogger.
Many people have left and I tend not to comment on many posts these days as the general rugby posts go unnoticed and other stuff which is not worth thinking about is focussed on.
I just hope it changes the same as I hope SARU change and someone needs to grow a pair and start letting it be more fair.
You never hear any negatives about the RFU, WRU, NZRU, IRFU etc…
Never has politics continued to brake the game as it has in South Africa, it is very disheartening.
18 Mar 2013, 00:17 am
What a load of absolute nonsense Keo. Your limited view of this situation is of low intellect. The Kings wanted none more than to be included in a sporting competition for sporting reasons. One assumes that the primary sporting reason for including a previously excluded team would be their ability to compete. When one achieves expectations your performance is satisfactory. Although many would like to believe the romantic view that the Kings have been some kind of David vs. Goliath story, they have in fact only achieved what should have been expected from a sporting perspective. One win so far. So to admonish SARU for not showering them with praise is a load of BS.
So then, let’s get to the 3 internationals fielded. Is this a standing rule which governs all teams ? Weren’t the Kings clearly warned NOT to include more than 2 international players in their match 22 ? So what is the problem here ? Who are the scoundrels ?
Come now Keo….please keep it real.
18 Mar 2013, 00:19 am
@Rhys7-29: You are right. And it is precisely politics that makes people like Keo believe that the Kings should not be disciplined for breaking SARU’s rules that apply to all SA teams.
18 Mar 2013, 00:23 am
@Rhys7-29: Problem is Mark Keohane is so far up the Watson’s poephols, only his shoelaces stick out. This is a classic case of being a warrior for equality, but only when that recipe panders to your liking. The Kings wanted equality with the other Super rugby teams, but not really….they wanted a bit extra too.
18 Mar 2013, 00:26 am
Just why SARU sucks: No one from the SARU executive attended the Kings Super Rugby debut. There was nothing of… http://t.co/9BvkF16ZpR
18 Mar 2013, 00:35 am
@RaaeqG-5:
Daniel Adongo is from Kenia.
Players from Africa are not see as Overseas players.
Same as Namibia, Zimbabwe (Beast) etc
Therefore 3 international players and not 4 in 22 vs Chiefs.
I think SARFU is correct.
Rules is rules.
18 Mar 2013, 00:52 am
Anyway, they didn’t get any log points from the game so I think they should just be issued a warning….another one….together with a declaration of clear consequences if they do it again. Had they earned any log points from this game, I would say they would have had to be cancelled. Of course it would show some sporting value if they issued an apology to the Chiefs seeing that there is now way for the Chiefs to earn back the better points difference they may have gotten if the Kings had abided by the rules.
18 Mar 2013, 00:54 am
@skopdiekan-29:
Actually most people that are marketable to the international community generally do try better themselves as earning rands these days equates to earning nothing . As for what rugby means to the Kings I have a very good perspective on that as my grandfather represented the Lions and played in Springbok trials. I to have played representative rugby . The problem i have is that the King team got the go for political reasons and you correct in saying Jake White is snotty nosed but you cant argue results and he has quite a few of those . What are you rugby credentials , I am assuming they go as far as arm chair critic !!!
18 Mar 2013, 00:57 am
@ryan.walkerranger-38: Don’t waste your time.
18 Mar 2013, 05:53 am
@David-30:
” The EC was the home of the original SARU, ”
I have not yet completed(time is a problem) cleaning up your previous S H I T and now you stink the place out with the stench of this faecal matter?
Bwana, stay away from the history and politics and sports and sports’ politics of the Movement, as even if you were given the gospel thereof you would still know F O K K O L about it because you would not ever have the context of our experiences. With your now well exposed ignorance and stupidity, as you try to come across as ‘smart’ , you are ‘bastardising’ our noble efforts and upsetting many people unknown to you. I was phoned about this comment from S.A. (to busy to read all this KaK day after day).
For the record the E.Cape was not even the “original home” of Kwaru or Sedru because the E.Province and Border(non-racial units) were in existence long before them and were original founding members with numerous unions from the W.Cape( at least 6) and others(Boland, Tvl., G.W., Natal etc.) of the original genuinely non-racial Saru, way back when.
In fact, the main clubs(founding) of Kwaru such as Spring Rose, Union, St. Cyprians and more were originally part and parcel of E.Province(non-racial). rugby and cricket until logistics(apartheid induced) forced them to separate.
If any area was the “original home” of non-racial SARU(SACOS affiliate) then it would be the W.Cape where our rugby has been in existence for more than a hundred years.
Lay off bastardising the original non-racial sports codes with your shining ignorance.
Neither you or Domzim should ever try to represent our history and more in any form for you are grossly incapable of doing so and end up spreading lies and sowing confusion.
You are not even in this day and age capable of adequately defining the profound principle of non-racialism. Your version is merely neo-racism and I have made you abundantly aware for years now of that.
18 Mar 2013, 06:03 am
I’m a Kings supporter, but they are clearly wrong in fielding 3 foreign players in flagrant disregard of the rules, & will have to accept whatever sanction SARU imposes upon them. “Lawlessness” cannot be condoned.
As regards SARU, it is a retrogressive organisation – if it depended on SARU, we’d still be playing Apartheid rugby in pristine global isolation.
I’ve stated many times that their clear agenda/plan is for the Kings to fail. They’ve placed every possible obstacle to success in the Kings’/Spears’ path. In SA, rugby has always been political, & nobody is more adept at that political game than SARU (& its predecessors). With that as background, to level an accusation that the Kings franchise has been included in S15 for purely political reasons is the height of hypocrisy & insult.
Rugby in SA will never be transformed until SARU itself is transformed.
18 Mar 2013, 06:07 am
@Rhys7-31:
Are you Rip Van Winkle?
What the H E L L else do you expect when there has been more than 400 years of racism/apartheid in S.A. in evry aspect of life?
These things are not healed in a generation and you , a fool, want it hail and hearty and healthy overnight?
Before you are anything in this life you are a human being first(worthy of respect) and anything and everything thereafter(a butcher, a baker a candlestick maker).
Now if you are not happy with this you can walk to R-T or the Stormers blog. Bye now.
18 Mar 2013, 06:08 am
@Angostura-41:
And you are still an arsecreep, pandering to Rich , Tom and Harry..
18 Mar 2013, 06:15 am
Another tantrum keo!
18 Mar 2013, 06:16 am
@ET.-43:
Different ‘rules’ in different Conferences( e.g. Force are allowed more) lead to this situation.
Since many of us believe neo-racist Saru is being deliberate in their desire for the E. Cape to fail, it is deemed the lesser evil to ignore the rule(man made and thus open to being tainted.)
Or did ‘Moses’ Mabinda inscribe that ‘rule’ on your pale backside(is that too obscene) too?
18 Mar 2013, 06:18 am
@knave-44:
And you, another too dull to challenge anything wicked in life?
18 Mar 2013, 06:23 am
What this excruciating twatass doing sucking up whitey imperialism yankee doodle dandy backsides on those famous streets of Philadelphia familiarity for all the forgone faggotty wrong reasons when it should be back rubbing it’s ducky in the paddle pools of poor me downtrodden destitution where all the ramping raucous raving cadres for change are putting shoulders to the wheel against that despicable destabilizing devils devices they still love to remain hating attach to called apartheid? It’s fighting from the wrong neck of the woods up impaired imperialism yankees dandy backsides shouting the odds up the white imperialism arsehole talking equal righteous rights for all the people while sucking on white varkvleis up whitey varkie vernekery vendors venues.
18 Mar 2013, 06:23 am
RT @mark_keohane: Just why SARU sucks http://t.co/6vKIZo2W5Z via @sharethis National gov body represents everything despicable about rug …
18 Mar 2013, 06:29 am
” As regards SARU, it is a retrogressive organisation ”
Why?
Is their not a common denominator in those franchise/union presidents with names like Verster, Van Graan, Van Zyl, De Klerk, Le Roux etc., etc.?
Are such names not commonly found in the ;Broerbond and now its replacement, AfrikanerBond , too?
Makes you think, not so?
18 Mar 2013, 06:31 am
@ET.-43: @ET.-45:
And you’re a self-serving fraud who has left his Mother Land for the patronage & protection of that “paragon of fighting for the oppressed in the face of exploitation”, the USA.
You have no credibility, dude.
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