Just why SARU sucks
18 Mar 2013
No one from the SARU executive attended the Kings Super Rugby debut. There was nothing official by way of congratulations. But the custodian of the game was quick to speak out when the Kings fielded three instead of two foreigners in the match 22 against the Chiefs.
The absolute desire to see the Kings fail from within the national executive is disgusting.
The haters of the Kings have a right of choice, opinion and expression of speech, however limited and demeaning it may be in articulation and expression, but the national governing body could surely show a bit more class instead of the obvious crassness we’ve seen since they were forced to include the Kings in Super Rugby when they cocked up a promise to the Lions that the Kings would be there because of a tournament expansion.
This franchise is the good news story in a unified South African rugby. It is the rainbow story, by choice and not construction. More than 100 000 of all cultures have attended the Kings three home games. Australians and New Zealanders can’t stop talking about the romance of the Kings’ debut month.
Every South African rugby writer who has made the trip to Port Elizabeth has written of the energy of the crowd, of the diverse cultural representation of the crowd, of the atmosphere at the ground and of the incredible spirit of those who play in the Kings’ jersey.
SARU’s national executive failed to see the significance of the Kings debut. All they see is the irritation of it. Typical of cowards there has been nothing but silence as the Kings have won the hearts of so many through the courage of their performance.
SARU hasn’t thanked them for adding a dimension to the game in South Africa but those who double as the custodians have demanded a report as to why the Kings fielded three foreigners in their match 22 against the Chiefs, when the SARU regulation limits all South African franchises to just two players.
The Kings, in their debut match, started with 15 South Africans and injury to captain Darron Nell in the warm-up of the Chiefs match forced a last minute call-up to a third foreigner.
SARU wants a report about it and were very quick to make public that they wanted this report.
They weren’t as quick to wish the Kings well prior to their first game and they weren’t rushing to congratulate the Kings on becoming the first tournament newcomer to ever win on debut.
The Kings represent the future of the game in this country. SARU is the relic that represents everything despicable about the past.
By Mark Keohane
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18 Mar 2013, 14:07 pm
@TooMuchRugby-485:
“The incident was not treated as deliberate foul play (by the KIWI judicial officer), but resulted from a poorly executed hold to the neck of the Bulls player [Grant Hattingh], which was held as the players went to ground and thus dangerous.”
“The Bulls player suffered concussion and whiplash.”
clearly the intent to injure dangerously was there.
18 Mar 2013, 14:11 pm
I am watching game again now….. minus the windhoeks…will revert soon re lambie.
18 Mar 2013, 14:16 pm
@Puma-497: 5 conversions and 8 penalties. 1 missed out of 14 Kicks at goal in total.
Pat has hit 16 penalties an 1 Drop goal. Not sure how many he has missed. Total 18 shots at goal I assume if he has missed 1.
18 Mar 2013, 14:17 pm
@Puma-500: Demitri has done really well, no doubt.
18 Mar 2013, 14:18 pm
WTF Jordaan???
18 Mar 2013, 14:20 pm
@grant10-505: Bad hands.
18 Mar 2013, 14:23 pm
@stormersboy-506: no hands….kicking the ball along the ground to kanko???
No man.
18 Mar 2013, 14:24 pm
So the Kings wants a noddy badge every step of the way and a blind eye to their transgressions? Kak man!! Earn your way around and earn respect the way it is meant to be earned. That is one thing the Watsons cannot manipulate.
This article just breaks down the bit of respect these players have fought hard for.
18 Mar 2013, 14:25 pm
@grant10-507: That was shocking to say the least.
18 Mar 2013, 14:25 pm
@grant10-507: I thought you were talking about the two dropped interceptions.
18 Mar 2013, 14:29 pm
@stormersboy-510: Those as well…very dissapointing .
18 Mar 2013, 14:30 pm
” Springbok Johan Goosen will undergo surgery again, after injuring his knee in a freak training ground accident. ”
Who informed you last season that with the druggy’s compromised musculo-skeletal system(by steroid-like ‘medications’) it is merely a case of which or which structure in that joint is next on the list?
Damn in this sea of stupidity you make me look like a combination of Einstein and Newton and I am not, just an honest, humble researcher in the medical sciences.
He cannot even make it on the training field. He should go for a 2 year semi-retirement and hopefully come back clean and seemingly stronger but still compromised (for life).
18 Mar 2013, 14:35 pm
Kyle Cooper ….PSDT……nice…
Indeed Lambie looking the business in 2 nd half….
18 Mar 2013, 14:35 pm
@Die_Valk-3:
It is sad…disgusting in fact.
That little Jerry Springer guest wannabe and its filthy mouth represents everything that is seedy and inbred about this site.
18 Mar 2013, 14:39 pm
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE-508: only in your mind Kwagga
18 Mar 2013, 14:41 pm
@stormersboy-503: Pat has taken 19 shots at goal and only missed one against the Stormers. It was a penalty he missed. That is top class goal kicking bud. The best stats out of the fhs so far. Think Morne must have 2nd best he too is kicking at goal really spot on right now. Joe is doing the business too. Not sure about Demitri, but he hardly misses any as well.
18 Mar 2013, 14:43 pm
@Puma-516:
Most Points
1. Gareth Anscombe (Chiefs) 70
2. Morne Steyn (Bulls) 68
3. Patrick Lambie (Sharks) 57
4. Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes) 49
5. James O’Connor (Rebels) 47
6. Johan Goosen (Cheetahs) 43
7. Brendan McKibbin (Waratahs) 41
8. Daniel Carter (Crusaders) 39
9. Demetri Catrakilis (Kings) 38
10. Christian Lealiifano (Brumbies) 37
11. Joe Pietersen (Stormers) 34
12. Quade Cooper (Reds) 33
13. Sias Ebersohn (Force) 30
14. Jesse Mogg (Brumbies) 26
15. Alfie Mafi (Force) 20
15. Frank Halai (Blues) 20
15. Kade Poki (Highlanders) 20
18. Piri Weepu (Blues) 19
19. Colin Slade (Highlanders) 16
19. Michael Harris (Reds) 16
18 Mar 2013, 14:44 pm
Sharks were quite decent 2 nd half…..Lambie played well…varied it and took it reasonably flat….nice little chips into space…..
1 st half was just a nightmare.
18 Mar 2013, 14:45 pm
@Puma-516: pat missed vs kings & was given a gimme by japhta to retake the kick!
demetri has missed 4 i reckon in 3 games.
18 Mar 2013, 14:47 pm
@grant10-518: You see what I tell you about Pat? He was good in that 2nd half. Looking more like the Pat we know. Also thanks Grant for being honest. As I knew you would be.
First half was a total nightmare for all the team, if you getting smashed in the collisions nothing much will help. The replacements made a big difference. Hope we have learned huge from that game. Sometimes a massive beating wakes the team up from the slumber….hahaha. Though I think we might struggle still until we get our big guns back. For now hope we hang in there until they return. See Jannie is out injured now too.
18 Mar 2013, 14:48 pm
msteyn & GA both have scored tries, don’t know if lambie has gone over the whitewash…
18 Mar 2013, 14:50 pm
@stormersboy-517: Yip knew Morne leads our conference as Bulls have scored more than us on the board. What I was talking about was how many missed from the kicks that the player has taken so far. Think there Lambie does lead the pack. Having only missed one so far. 18 out of 19 he has got at goal. Morne can’t be too far behind, he may have only missed 2 not really sure as he has been very good at kicking at goal this year too.
18 Mar 2013, 14:50 pm
@Puma-516: Puma do not forget Lambies touch line kicks, I thought they were superb on the weekend as he found some very long touches
18 Mar 2013, 14:52 pm
@Transformation-521: Know he has not then not many of my team have gone over the whitewash. Think Ludik and Kanko have scored. Jeez after all the tries we scored last year. Though think we waiting on our big guns. Once we get them back expect us to play better, until then hope we hang in there. For this game on Saturday not expecting anything after the really poor performance we gave on Saturday. But we surely can’t ever be as bad as that again. Now the pressure will be on the players as surely some will be dropped.
18 Mar 2013, 14:54 pm
will the Sharks again play vs GSmith without a deck player?
marcel is one dimensional on attack, he seldom breaches the gainline as, like jaque pottie, he wants to prove he is a toughie instead of attacking the spaces…elke tyd he is bouncing with his shoulder or his bum off people.
18 Mar 2013, 14:54 pm
And again it is so easy to see that having achieved the 4 try bonus point before minute 35 the smart Brumbies had nothing more to play for except maintaining that situation(with a shift in emphasis to defence) and thus the motivation of necessity degraded somewhat (and it was different).
About 3/4 times in that 2nd. half they gave gentle reminders of what they could do if the opposition became too brave.
18 Mar 2013, 14:54 pm
@Puma-522: The 2 weakest kickers have been Jantjies and Goosen, the rest have kicked well.
18 Mar 2013, 14:54 pm
@Transformation-521: No
18 Mar 2013, 14:55 pm
@Puma-520: could of been a push over try to Brumbies last move of game as well….in fact the Brumbies butchered about 3 trys ….
Not good…I didnt like the body language and attitude……Lambie was decent 2 nd half…..
a few sharks need to catch a wake up…..that was really unacceptable .
Hope Stormers are wide awake to the Brumbies offload game….got to tackle them with attitude….
PSDT and Kyle Cooper showed some ballas….
18 Mar 2013, 14:56 pm
@Sharks_are_gonna_get_you-523: Yes of course, he was very good with that too. I pleased with his play so not sure why some are having a go at him, he was one of the Sharks that actually played well and never gave up. Also I saw Butch again after I told you, I doubt he will be back until after the bye. Bosman will have to cover Pat. Another thing if Plum was not happy with Pat he would have surely have moved him to fb and NOT Fransie…..
It was Frnasie that got shoved back there when Ludik went off injured. Or did he want to see how Bosman went next to Pat? That could also be. But Plum not daft he knows which players never produced. There were only 5 that produced on Saturday. Psdt, Herbst, Cooper, Kanko and Pat. The rest were not great at all.
18 Mar 2013, 14:58 pm
@Puma-524: the excuse of humidity in Debben is GONE puma, brumbies shattered it by playing wide in the 1st half & scoring 4 tries in first 40…
18 Mar 2013, 15:00 pm
Marcelle Coetsee had a decent 2nd half too…..
Kanko and Keegan were not up to it….
That Mc Cleod was put under huge pressure…..sharks just did not protect the ball at the breakdown.
I awas hoping I had seen the last of G Smith, here he is back to haunt me again…..
Bet Schalk is relieved he is not playing this weekend….
18 Mar 2013, 15:00 pm
@grant10-529: We without our big guns Grant. We will get it back when they come back, similar to last year when we lost Beast and Alberts for the first half. Once they got back we got it together. Though not sure we can always play that amount of catch up again. Then when we were losing last year we were losing with a losing bonus point. We never ever played this bad that I can remember. Also that loose trio were brilliant towards the end of SR, but we can only play them if we have Bissie and Alberts playing. Alberts played lock at the time.
Don’t worry about your Stormers you will beat the Brumbies. Also remember they without 4 players it seems from the Sharks game. We send them to you on crutches bud…..hahaha. You do the same for us with the Saders okay….
18 Mar 2013, 15:03 pm
@grant10-532: Play Deon at openside with Vermeulen and Elstadt you will be covered. Remember the Brumbies 8 was colossal. You have Vermeuelen though so all sorted. Though Vermeulen never had a great game against Sharks.
AC will be ready for Jake this week make no mistake about that.
18 Mar 2013, 15:04 pm
@Puma-533: Will be tough against Brumbies…a clever team….hoping they a bit sore though, and if they do lose Mogg, Kimlin and a couple others it will assist a bit for sure…will be in stands for both the brumbies, saders and sharks games [ 13 april ]…
18 Mar 2013, 15:07 pm
@Transformation-531: The humidity was not high on Saturday to be totally honest Transie. Then it was raining too that cancels it out, the ball stops being so slippery with the rain even in slight humidity. It is actually like washing it all the time so to speak. With rain you still have a better grip always, than you will have with the humidity. Though rain it is still not the best weather to play in, so kudos to the Brumbies….
Today it is hot and humid. Hope it is not like this on Saturday.
18 Mar 2013, 15:07 pm
” The EC was the home of the original SARU, ”
Really, really now as I like to exclaim?
Where is that MIA, Norfolk Bwana Stupid?
Has he no decency in his ‘soul’?
He owes me a huge “Thank you” for his continuing education about the richness and correctness(the globe finally went with us and not you) of Black History which I have dedicated this year to?
You and “Domzim” should not barstadise our movement accomplishments with your every blissful ignorance.
Stay well away and leave it to the experts academics(and there are many in Cape Town today even).
18 Mar 2013, 15:09 pm
@Puma-534: Jake says they will target Stormers scrum…..will be inetersting ….D Fourie doesent want that 6 jersey….Kolisi hit form against Chiefs….
some tough calls to make for AC…..
Backs as well…
18 Mar 2013, 15:10 pm
@grant10-538: Tiaan in the front row will help.
18 Mar 2013, 15:10 pm
@grant10-538: I think Stormers will win Grant. Also Brumbie probably have 4 players out injured. Even if they had their full team think Stormers would win. Just study how Sharks got it wrong and Stormers will do the business.
18 Mar 2013, 15:10 pm
@stormersboy-539: For sure and move Deon to openside. He was superb there in the CC final.
18 Mar 2013, 15:13 pm
@Puma-536:
This sounds like the flight socks debacle all over again.
18 Mar 2013, 15:14 pm
@Transformation-525: We missed Deysel, not sure if GS would have had it all his own way had Deysel not got injured. Deysel was playing some superb rugby before he got injured.
18 Mar 2013, 15:15 pm
@gunther-542: bwaaahaaaaaa. Probably does….
I do know what I am talking about here though, as I know and say that with confidence… like your cold red wine hey! …….. hehehehe
18 Mar 2013, 15:19 pm
@Puma-544:
not cold chilled.
Room temperature in Durban is not the same as room temperature in say Burgundy.
Unless you have a cellar?
Mind you with tassies you probably won’t tell the difference.
try some of Kaptein Katemba’s 30 year olde pinotage.
18 Mar 2013, 15:24 pm
bigot_bakkiesbotha-76:
” who owns the land of Southern Africa? ”
Is this your haughty, European capitalist, colonization notions emotionally running away with you(as a badly clutched straw) after that 41 ‘snotting’?
After more than 400 years behind your kith and kin you arrogantly still do not know this answer?
Sadly for the innocent indigenous people this is all relative to who the bigger bully is and it is always the one with the greater firepower at that time.
Be prepared to be educated.
Who effectively “owns” the car you bought when it is stolen, then(see how dynamic and ever changing it is)?
Who then effectively “owns” ‘your’ car when 10 days after it was stolen it is deliberately run over a steep cliff(see the change again)?
18 Mar 2013, 15:27 pm
@grant10-532:
The Sharks (like the Stormers) need a proper top class fetcher flank. The closest to that is Botes (who might be in his last season). Maybe they should give Kleynhans a go & let him develop & grow as 6? The Brumbies game has shown you shouldn’t play both Kanko & Keegan in the same loose trio against a top flight team. I think one should play either Keegan or Kanko at no 8, the other to be either on the bench or to sit out completely. There is simply not enough grunt with both playing simultaneously, especially when Alberts/Deysel are not playing.
Sometime in the future I would like to see Plum give this loose trio a try (just to see, it may be the answer, especially together with a pacy lock like PSDT):
6. Botes or Kleynhans
7. Deysel
8. Alberts
Reserve: Coetzee
Plenty grunt right there, & a fetcher as well.
18 Mar 2013, 15:27 pm
@gunther-545: hehehe. I have aircon here bud, so that is room temp for me… can’t have it any colder than that otherwise it takes the lovely rich red wine flavours away…hehehe.
I don’t drink Tassies….
Like a really good red wine or nothing for me…. hahahaha.
I tried some of the pink stuff you like while I was in the Cape a few weeks back. Not bad as I found some that was not sickly sweet…hehehe.
Need to take a call back later.
18 Mar 2013, 15:29 pm
@stormersboy-539: yes….although then we sit without a true scavenger unless we play D Fourie as a loosie…..
tough calls….this is where AC earns his bucks
18 Mar 2013, 15:30 pm
While we are speaking of rules:
“The Executive Council of the Varsity Cup has accepted the decision that UP-Tuks will only be severely reprimanded and not punished after being found guilty of contravening the Varsity Cup constitution.
Senior legal mind, advocate Jannie Lubbe, was asked to rule on the academic qualifications of participants in the FNB Varsity Cup, presented by Steinhoff International and the Young Guns competition.
Lubbe, one of SA Rugby’s most respected and experienced arbiters, was asked by the Varsity Cup Exco to rule on eight charges against FNB UP-Tuks of fielding possible ineligible players in the Varsity Cup and Young Guns competitions.
Lubbe found FNB UP-Tuks guilty on four of five charges in the Varsity Cup competition and not guilty of all three charges in the Young Guns competition. All the guilty charges though relates to one player.
The guilty charges relate to the required number of bona-fide students that are allowed to play in the competitions. All 23 players in the Young Guns competition must be bona-fide students as must 18 out of the match 23 in the Varsity Cup.
In his finding Lubbe found that the club also contravened the rules last year, but found this new contravention due to a different interpretation of the rules by a senior official at the University of Pretoria.
“Varsity Cup accepts that we need to upgrade the constitution even more, as we did it extensively in 2012,” said CEO Duitser Bosman.
“We have a bona fide students audit during the competition every year,” Bosman explained.
“We picked up some possible issues with UP Tuks and asked for additional information. After that, we decided to declare a dispute against UP Tuks and to ask an impartial individual, adv. Lubbe to rule on this issue.
“We as Varsity Cup accepts the finding of Adv. Jannie Lubbe SC. We want to state that all remedies available to us according to our constitution to address this situation were used. We need to protect the integrity of the competition at all times and in this case it demands that we have to accept the ruling made by the arbiter, as dictated by our constitution and approved by all 13 member universities at the last Annual General Meeting,” said Bosman.
“Play offs are around the corner and we would like this to be the best Varsity Cup finish in the six year rich history of the competition,” concluded Bosman.”
If Tukkies can get away with it…………………
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